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Argentines vote next Sunday an anticipation of October's presidential election

Monday, August 5th 2019 - 09:59 UTC
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Public opinion polls in Argentina show a very close, polarized race between President Mauricio Macri and opposition candidate Alberto Fernandez before next Sunday's PASO primaries which are Open, Simultaneous and Mandatory, and most important a clear anticipation of what could happen in October's presidential election. Read full article

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  • Little J

    Hopefully MM will win. Even if not the PASO elections but those to be held on October 27th. Otherwise we'll be back to the well known corruption of the previous K governments and of course aligning Argentina - once again - with Iran, Venezuela and others, to the detriment of the country.

    This does'nt mean that MM's government have been absolutely brilliant in the handling of the country in every aspect, nor that there has not been any corruption whatsoever, during their current term of office but at least there has certainly been far less than the former government and an approach to reach out to other countries with a more acceptable political orientations, the benefit of Argentina overall.

    Aug 05th, 2019 - 02:20 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Tarquin Fin

    Little J,

    That's a very tough one. Though I think that MM is the “least worst” option, the famous “it's the economy, stupid” still applies. Respect for institutions and pro-market reform are tough things to sell to millions of lower middle class people -who previously voted for Macri- that has suffered from increasing utilities' bills, loss of jobs, inflation. Populism seems to have the upper hand this time around.

    Alberto Fernandez seems like a moderate person but everybody knows who will be calling the shots if he wins, i.e.: another default crisis in the horizon.

    There's an alternative, Professor J.L. Espert. He might get somewhere between 5 to 7 percent. He gets my vote this time.

    Aug 05th, 2019 - 08:34 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Enrique Massot

    The front headed by pre-candidates Alberto Fernandez and Cristina Fernandez appears headed to get the most votes on these primary election. And with good reason: President Mauricio Macri has shown absolute incapacity to govern. His government has lived on borrowed money, increasing Argentina's foreign debt to over 85 per cent of a GDP. When private (speculative) investors decided not to risk their dollars anymore, Macri simply rushed to the IMF for help and direction.

    Following the IMF's direction, Argentina has plunged deeper into a virtual economic stand still, with most domestic productive sectors gone and hundreds of small and medium size enterprises closing doors every week.

    Alberto Fernandez proposes to put people to work, restore employees and retirees' wages and pensions value, lowering the 60 per cent interest rates paid to speculative investors holding Leliq notes, which have become a Damocles' sword over the country's finances.

    What Mr. Fernandez is proposing is simply put the country to work while putting an end to financial speculation.

    Of course, the Macri government cannot claim a single economic achievement, therefore it's trying hard to divert attention towards the previous Kirchner government. Little J. above is fully engaged on such a diversion. I will remind Mr. J that there has been little corruption -- if any -- made official in a court of law, and certainly not one involving Cristina Fernandez.

    Judicial cases open? Yes, many. Former Kirchner government officials in prision? Yes, several, some without even before testifying before a judge, in denial of the principle of innocence.

    Now, want to know how many cases are before the courts against Mr. Macri? Well...92. Of which about half a dozen are serious.

    And Macri will need to explain how his assets increased over 50 per cent in the last year.

    Aug 06th, 2019 - 02:38 am - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Tarquin Fin

    Enrique, you just keep posting propaganda. No sign of critical thinking on your part.


    “Of course, the Macri government cannot claim a single economic achievement, ... ”

    To be fair, had not they controlled the excessive peso emissions with Lebacs, we would have had a certain hyperinflation in 2016. They didn't say anything about the disastrous finances left by Cristina just to avoid the gigantic crisis that would have ensued.

    Of course, then “things happened ...” :-) and some idiots tried to force monetary policy over the central bank. That's the 2018 crisis. However what we had last years pales in comparison to what it would have happened in 2016.

    “Now, want to know how many cases are before the courts against Mr. Macri? Well...92. Of which about half a dozen are serious.”

    Of course this is a serious matter. How about Cristina? Don't you think that probably both of them should be in jail?

    “What Mr. Fernandez is proposing is simply put the country to work while putting an end to financial speculation.”

    A grown man like yourself should know what that shit means in this part of the world. Alberto wants to put people to work? Well, I guess he's probably envisioning a labour camp for all of Grabois activists, militant public workers, etc ... How is he planning to support all of that? Where is he going to get the money from?

    Since he is a peronist, I suppose he might have some magic formula passed to him in secret. I'd love to hear about it!

    Aug 06th, 2019 - 03:01 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Zaphod Beeblebrox

    Tarquin,

    “Enrique, you just keep posting propaganda. No sign of critical thinking on your part. ”

    Absolutely!

    Reekie,

    “Of course, the Macri government cannot claim a single economic achievement, ... ”

    Whenever I post references to data that disproves this oft-repeated statement of yours you have no response and yet you still do it. Do you think that if you repeat a false statement often enough it will become true?

    Aug 06th, 2019 - 04:38 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • imoyaro

    It's just more agitprop. Thankfully, he's not in charge of public money...anywhere.

    Aug 06th, 2019 - 06:00 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Tarquin Fin

    imoyaro,

    That avatar of yours still makes me smile ...

    Zaphod:

    Of course. It's like Argentina was Disneyland up until Dec 2015. Then the empire evil clutches destroyed Alderaan ... ok, not quite,

    ... then the cheshire cat misguided Alice ... er, hmm

    ... then Macri and minions came and created 12 million of poor people out of thin air by using a magic wand.

    Aug 06th, 2019 - 08:28 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • imoyaro

    Tarquin, you might be amused to know how I came to make it, as you are a guy who certainly knows history. As you know, in the old heraldry of your republic, the hat on the pole was a classic Roman “Liberty” or Scythian” cap, which was a symbol of a slave's release, and later of the emperor's cult which oversaw the freeing process, which was staffed by freedmen. A perfectly logical symbol for a republican revolution which the French had adopted. At some point more recently, the heraldry was changed, and the classic cap was replaced by a tasseled cap that certainly appears to be the cap of a federalist cavalryman. During the decades of the civil war, beheading and head display was fairly common. Think Dorrego, Ramirez, Acha, the victims of Rosas, and at the end, Peñaloza, to name a few. To me, Sarmiento's ordering the display of Peñaloza's head symbolized the Unitarian victory and the Federalist's defeat. (Yes, I know federalism came back in a big way, but that's another story.) When I saw the heraldic change, I could not resist making the cap a severed head. As for humor, your name always cracks me up. Monty Python lives!

    Aug 06th, 2019 - 11:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tarquin Fin

    imoyaro, that's a perfect fit! First time I saw it, reminded me of the Mazorca (Rosas secret Gestapo, but I guess you already knew that). Great job!

    Aug 07th, 2019 - 12:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro

    Bingo! Of course, the victims of the Mazorca would not have been wearing the cap. ;)

    Aug 07th, 2019 - 01:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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