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Trump and Congress agree on safety net programs for Covid 19 patients and victims

Saturday, March 14th 2020 - 09:50 UTC
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The U.S. House of Representatives overwhelmingly passed a coronavirus aid package early on Saturday that would provide free testing and paid sick leave, in a bid to limit the economic damage from a pandemic that has shuttered schools, sports arenas, and offices. Read full article

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  • Don Alberto

    Quote: “The U.S. House of Representatives overwhelmingly passed a coronavirus aid package early on Saturday that would provide free testing and paid sick leave”

    Free testing? without test equipment? how is that to be?

    The US-americans are beginng to realize that their country's healt care system is unable to test more than - at most - 1/4 of the population. They are simply not prepared for a pandemic.

    Mar 14th, 2020 - 02:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Don Alberto

    I strongly disagree with your statement. Trump has made an unprecedented rapid response by deregulating and privatizing the testing process. He's enlisted Google to organize the organization and major companies to administer the tests in parking lots nation wide.

    They don't need to test every North American citizen, but instead only those with acute symptoms.

    The USA is my major customer and I carefully watch what they're doing, because my livelihood depends on the strength of their economy.

    I am so thankful the Democrat party is not running the economy!

    Mar 14th, 2020 - 02:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Don Alberto

    “enlisted Google to organize the organization”

    Trump lie no. 12,414.

    Google doesn't know about it and has denied involvment.

    The company Verily, which belongs to the same parent company as Google, Alphabet, is developing on a smaller website that can visit patients in parts of the state of California.

    According to Verily spokesman Carolyn Wang:

    ”We are in the process of building a visitation program, which can be found at Projectbaseline.com (Verily's Health Website, ed.). We expect to send out a trial version next week.”

    Experience from the rest of the world shows that they need to test everybody who has been close to a person infected with COVID-19.

    In a worst case scenario up to 2.7 million Americans can die from the disease. In a best case scenario, only about 200,000 will die, according to estimates from the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services

    Mar 14th, 2020 - 04:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • RMN

    Well 2 week's sick pay won't go far if you do find you develop the illness. As for testing, as there is no specific treatment other than generic symptomatic relief (which in itself is a good thing) then what is the point of being tested?

    Mar 14th, 2020 - 05:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Don Alberto

    I think your political prejudice against conservative governments has caused your inability to accept truth.

    Although I live in Chile, I'm very aware of the emergency measures taken by the President of the USA. One of the companies owned by Alphabet (Google) is in fact coordinating the testing with major retailers including Walmart and Target.

    Today, New York’s first coronavirus drive-through testing center opened yesterday morning in New Rochelle — the Westchester County town with the highest cluster of COVID-19 cases in the United States.

    That specific drive-through testing location has six drive-through lanes to handle 200 cars a day.

    The medical staff there went to each car, performed two tests per person and then send the swabs to BioReference Laboratories, the research lab in the state charged with processing.

    By the end of the month, the CDC expects to have over 1,200 drive-through testing locations throughout the nation.

    Mar 14th, 2020 - 06:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Don Alberto

    Chicureo, you are either talking through your hat, or this is your sole guide: “The USA is my major customer”.

    Google Communications
    @Google_Comms
    Statement from Verily: “We are developing a tool to help triage individuals for Covid-19 testing. Verily is in the early stages of development, and planning to roll testing out in the Bay Area, with the hope of expanding more broadly over time.” https://twitter.com/Google_Comms/status/1238574670686928906

    Fact Check: Trump's Claims About His Response to the Coronavirus:

    Among other lies and half-truths:

    “When you say me, I didn’t do it. We have a group of people I could ask — perhaps my administration — but I could perhaps ask Tony about that because I don’t know anything about it.”

    The top White House official tasked with leading the country’s response to a pandemic left the administration in May 2018 and his team was disbanded by Mr. Trump’s national security adviser at the time, John R. Bolton.
    Trump did not replace them [White House’s pandemic team] in the nearly two years since, despite repeated bipartisan urgings from lawmakers and experts. AFAIK D. Trump was POTUS in May 2018 - but of course he knew nothing about what happened within his administration ... or?

    Trump did not replace them [the White House’s pandemic team] in the nearly two years since, despite repeated bipartisan urgings from lawmakers and experts.

    nytimes.com/2020/03/13/us/politics/fact-check-trump-coronavirus.html

    Mar 14th, 2020 - 09:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    Chicureo, the UK's first drive-through coronavirus testing centre opened in February. The UK has tested over 32,000 people and the US about 10,000 - they don't even know how many. It was obvious from the high number of deaths vs cases they reported in the early days that most cases were going undetected. Hopefully now that the people at the top are finally taking it seriously their response can catch up with other countries'.

    It's nice to see their Congress agree on something for once, though. Shame it took a pandemic to do it...

    Mar 14th, 2020 - 11:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Frankly, the Trump deranged media is trying to demean the fact that the Republican president has been well ahead
    by unprecedented travel restrictions.

    Meanwhile, the media is overlooking facts.

    httpss://time.com/5610878/2018-2019-flu-season/ In total, the CDC estimates that up to 42.9 million people got sick during the 2018-2019 flu season, 647,000 people were hospitalized and 61,200 died. That’s fairly on par with a typical season, and well below the CDC’s 2017-2018 estimates of 48.8 million illnesses, 959,000 hospitalizations and 79,400 deaths.

    Don Alberto is a hysterical idiot parroting the media and not intelligent enough to filter their manure.

    Mar 15th, 2020 - 02:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    If you don't trust the media, Chicureo, perhaps you prefer a personal account:

    https://www.facebook.com/daniele.macchini.52/posts/3395152210500625

    This new disease is many times more lethal than the flu, and the death rate will be many times higher again if it spreads quickly, overwhelming hospitals and forcing doctors to leave patients untreated. In Lombardy now because of the shortage of ventilators and ICU beds they are not treating anyone over 65 with pre-existing conditions - things like heart disease, diabetes, even high blood pressure. How old are you? How many of your friends and relatives would that cover?

    Besides, no president ever banned all travel because of ordinary seasonal flu. Either Trump is overreacting or the situation really is serious and strong measures are needed inside the US as well.

    Mar 15th, 2020 - 08:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    DemonTree

    Actually I do truly understand the seriousness of the current pandemic, but I was highlighting the ignorance of Don Alberto parroting the mainstream political prejudice against the Trump government handling of the crisis, which I think he's handled well.

    They were in fact one of the first to take serious travel restrictions regarding the outbreak, which lessened the spread of the virus.

    On a personal note, I sincerely hope you and your family are not seriously affected by this unfortunate crisis.

    The true enemy of the people is misinformation and panic.

    Mar 15th, 2020 - 03:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    Chicureo
    “Trump has made an unprecedented rapid response by ...” “Trump attacks CDC over coronavirus preparedness, though he eliminated an office dedicated to pandemic prevention
    https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/03/13/nation/trump-attacks-cdc-over-coronavirus-preparedness-though-he-eliminated-an-office-dedicated-pandemic-prevention/
    But the liar blames others for his own incorrect actions.
    ”Trump Reinvents Pandemic Response Wheel After Scrapping Team Obama Left Him
    Trump has so far downplayed the coronavirus threat and accused Democrats and the news media of trying to hurt the stock market and his reelection chances.
    https: //www.huffpostbrasil.com/entry/trump-coronavirus-threat_n_5e56e9a7c5b66137fb5d4445?ri18n=true&guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9uZXdzLmdvb2dsZS5jb20v&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAHhUV9NgdpTED9ixEOt2cS2NfhOAhEskX6TZUjNf1k1S2ynNWley1YvOj0lYLz1RQ5IrVdqMlhPi0QXBIYfudO4Ds61YdDcvIb4qyycf6l7tRjV6nIs0OWLM8Y2T8FOw3nO04wiK19rdGYA68cUAOoaTiGtz6ZiN4nwLiQhzAOiZ
    ”Trump Has Sabotaged America’s Coronavirus Response
    As it improvises its way through a public health crisis, the United States has never been less prepared for a pandemic.
    https: //foreignpolicy.com/2020/01/31/coronavirus-china-trump-united-states-public-health-emergency-response/

    Mar 15th, 2020 - 03:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    I don't think Trump has handled it well, and I can't say I trust that our government knows what they are doing either. Last week we had two colleagues visiting from the US and no one was worrying too much, then anyone with a cold was told to self isolate, events are cancelled, shops are selling out of staples, the Americans have hurried to fly home while they still can and today our government wants to isolate everyone over 70 indefinitely.

    And we are watching the pandemic ramp up in the UK just as we wait for our baby to be born...

    Mar 15th, 2020 - 03:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Don Alberto

    If you need hand desinfection alcohol, but it is sold out:

    How to prepare 1 liter in accordance with WHO's (World Health Organization) recipe:

    You need
    1 liter bottle or similar
    40 ml Hydrogen peroxide standard 3%-solution (to keep the solution sterile)
    15 ml pure Glycerol/Glycerine (one tablespoonfull)
    100 ml Sterile distilled or demineralized or boiled cold water
    Ethanol 96% = ordinary burning/cleaning alcohol add to one liter in total

    Mix the ingredients and use clean spray bottle.

    Instructions for production in quantity:
    https://www.who.int/gpsc/5may/Guide_to_Local_Production.pdf

    Mar 15th, 2020 - 06:18 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Chicureo

    Actually, using common soap and water is far more effective against the pandemic than alcohol based gels.

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/12/science-soap-kills-coronavirus-alcohol-based-disinfectants

    I spoke with my USA distributor and he's seeing record demand for avocados through the upcoming season. Supermarket sales will be unaffected by an anticipated economic downturn.

    Wishing all readers here good health and the wisdom to see through the media hysteria...

    ¡SALUD!

    Mar 15th, 2020 - 07:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Don Alberto

    Of course an Opinion piece in a newspaper - written, not by an expert in pathogenicity or at least a microbiologer, but by a Professor in Chemistry - is to be trusted over recommendations from the World Health Organization - why didn't I think of that?

    Wipes or rubbing a gel on the hands does not guarantee that you soak every corner of the skin on your hands effectively enough with alcohol-based disinfectants, which is why a spray bottle is recommended.

    The number of coronavirus infections in the US has continued to balloon, the incomplete and sometimes contradictory information from US officials has caused panic, supply hoarding and a sense of insecurity.

    A nurse who works for a clinic in Oregon told DW under the condition of anonymity that coronavirus tests only first became available on Wednesday.

    No tests, no coronavirus cases https://www.dw.com/image/52779825_303.jpg

    The number of infections remains relatively small, causing many to wonder whether this is simply due to that very few tests have been carried out so far. South Korea has tested 10,000 people a day, the US hadn't even performed a total of 15,000 tests by Thursday.

    Global health expert Ethan Guillen, who worked for Doctors Without Borders during the Ebola outbreak in West Africa, fears the US could end up following in Italy's footsteps. Guillen describes the US federal government's response to the coronavirus as “a failure ... Given the shameful incompetence being shown at the federal level, things could get out of hand, ... The US government decided to go its own way on testing for the [corona]virus with disastrous consequences,”. Not only did the government waste precious time in organizing testing, but the first test kits were also flawed ... The initial quarantines were poorly run and lacked basic precautions against the spread of the virus and led to community transmission.”

    How fortunate that we here on Mercopress have a Chilean expert, who knows more than every expert in diseases.

    Mar 15th, 2020 - 09:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    The “Chilean medical expert” is actually just a simple farmer blessed with common sense, reinforced from the long experience of monitoring the endless male bovine excrement of “experts” spouting their ideological hyperbole.

    Five things I'm certain about: 1. There will be plenty of toilet paper and hand sanitizer to replenish current demand. 2. The actual number of undiagnosed Coronavirus cases in the USA is far larger than projected. 3. Hospitals there will see a dramatic 4 to 8 week period of an overwhelmingly number patients with severe respiratory problems, but will have the capacity to handle. 4. Trump will win his reelection in November by a landslide. 5. Regularly washing ones hands with plain soap and water is far more effective than hand sanitizer.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/CultureCrave/status/1238563510822391808

    ¡SALUDOS!

    Mar 15th, 2020 - 10:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    According to Chicureo the US response hasn't hurt the demand for avocados, so Trump deserves to be reelected. What do thousands of needless deaths matter?

    Mar 15th, 2020 - 10:59 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Chicureo

    DemonTree

    According to what I've read, brave and heroic Chinese Doctor in Wuhan discovered the cluster of cases, but was ruthlessly censored as well as being punished by the Communist hierarchy. No doubt, the purposely government coverup resulted in the terrible pandemic we face today.

    The cowardly and criminal PRC are to be blamed, not President Trump.

    Don Alberto self identified himself with Trump Derangement Syndrome with his ignorant sarcasm. Trump is certainly not the best president, but he's certainly far better than the Democratic alternative. I find his attitude pathetically

    I'm fairly certain you're not a big fan of Boris Johnson, but I cannot believe you're a Jeremy Corbyn supporter either.

    I find both Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders to be terrible alternatives to lead the United States just like I imagine the Jeremy Corbyn government would in your country.

    Frankly, a strong US and UK economy is highly beneficial to my financial bottom line. Right now, table grapes and avocados are selling extremely well. Obviously the strong Pound/Dollar exchange just makes it better.

    In any case, I clearly understand your heighten concern as an expectant father.

    Mar 16th, 2020 - 02:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    Chicureo the flamer
    “are to be blamed, not President Trump”
    Are you as stupid as Trump? History has already demonstrated his utter lack of competency in this matter.
    https://en.mercopress.com/2020/03/14/trump-and-congress-agree-on-safety-net-programs-for-covid-19-patients-and-victims/comments#comment507662

    Mar 16th, 2020 - 10:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Don Alberto

    I have made myself a note for future use, that Chicureo have no rational arguments at all. His idea of a debate is ad hominem attacks on those who disagree with him.

    Mar 16th, 2020 - 01:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Tarance and Don,

    Forgive me for my irrational and mistaken offensive comments.

    Obviously the Chinese government should not be accused of suppressing vital information and most certainly Trump should take the full blame for this unfortunate pandemic.

    We can all be safely assured that soon Joe Biden, or perhaps Bernie Sanders will soon take control of the world's largest economy.

    Buy as many cases of toilet paper and hand sanitizer as you can and avoid all physical interaction. Stay safe and trust only what the media informs you.

    Please disregard my humble campesino advice to use soap and water to wash your hands. What a foolish idea...

    Mar 16th, 2020 - 02:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Don Alberto

    It is obvious that this Chileno guy with his stupid ad hominem attacks can join Trish Reagan from Fox News, who said “Chorus of hate being leveled at the president is nearing a crescendo as Democrats blame him and only him for a virus that originated halfway around the world. This is yet another attempt to impeach the president and sadly it seems they care very little for any of the destruction they are leaving in their wake.”

    Immediately after that part of the clip, she then starts showing clips from other networks where you had Democrats and pundits talking about the dismal response from the Trump administration to COVID-19. Not once did anybody in the clips that she showed blame the president for the virus itself as she claimed Democrats were doing. In fact, there’s no evidence to suggest the Democrats think by any stretch of the imagination that Trump is the reason this is happening. But they have all rightfully called out Donald Trump’s horrid response to this.

    Fox Host Trish Regan Loses Her Mind On Live TV
    https://trofire.com/2020/03/10/fox-host-trish-regan-loses-her-mind-on-live-tv/
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DUakefkSQw

    Mar 16th, 2020 - 02:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Don

    Relax,

    That Trish Regan gal is simply reflecting the mindset of the majority of Trump supporters that are obviously misinformed that the China government is the culprit.

    Be assured, either the dynamic Joe Biden or the exciting Bernie Sanders will soon convince the voters to change course.

    Meanwhile, there is now a new exciting way to purchase goods and services, proving your wise decision to stock up on toilet paper: https://mobile.twitter.com/CherokeeOwl/status/1239510482702282754

    Mar 16th, 2020 - 03:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Don Alberto

    The Chileno guy with his stupid ad hominem attacks seems to team up with Trish Regan, who ... Ooops!

    Fox Business Host Trish Regan on Hiatus After Virus Comments
    bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-13/fox-business-host-trish-regan-on-hiatus-after-virus-comments

    Now for something from the real world:

    Trump tells US 'relax, we're doing great' as his own virus expert [Dr. Anthony Fauci] says worst is yet to come https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/15/trump-coronavirus-relax-were-doing-great-expert-worst-to-come

    The far out left wing 'Financial Times' tells us, that “White House coronavirus expert warns US ‘could get as bad as Italy’”
    www.ft.com/content/3cdf1b36-66db-11ea-800d-da70cff6e4d3
    Left wing?!?

    BTW: There is no reason whatever to stockpile goods of any kind. If everybody does like me and buy only what is needed for at most a week, there is a sufficient supplies coming in nonstop.

    As for Biden and Sanders, I am not absolutely certain that one of these (almost) centenarians and their Rollators are worse than D. Trump. It looks like 50/50 risk/probability, while a third term for Obama (whose government created between 9 and 14 million new jobs in the US (after the million-drain in jobs during George W(ingnut) Bush's disaster) and Osama Bin Laden's sudden demise during Obama's presidency, would be a good thing.

    Mar 16th, 2020 - 03:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    Chicureo the flamer
    “Trump has made an unprecedented rapid response by ...”
    “America’s shamefully slow coronavirus testing threatens all of us
    The US lags just about every developed country on testing for Covid-19 disease.”
    https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2020/3/12/21175034/coronavirus-covid-19-testing-usa
    PBS and The Huffington Post have uncovered video evidence of Donald Trump’s long-held beliefs that he (and people like him) are genetically superior:”
    http: //www.dailykos.com/story/2016/9/29/1575870/-Shocking-video-of-Trump-explaining-his-dangerous-theory-that-people-like-him-have-superior-genes

    Mar 16th, 2020 - 04:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    Chicureo
    It's a good thing you're a farmer, you can use all those straw men you're setting up as scarecrows...

    I daresay the Chinese government's initial response made things worse, but there's no guarentee they could have prevented the pandemic even if they'd been open from the start. At that stage no one had any idea whether the disease would be particularly deadly or whether it would easily spread. Countries being affected now have more information and should be able to put together a better plan. Are you happy with the precautions announced by Piñera, or would you like to see all flights from Europe banned?

    Not everyone who criticises Trump has Trump derangement syndrome, but it's easier to claim so than to address their arguments. What's your objection to Biden, other than the D after his name? He's hardly comparable to Corbyn or Sanders.

    As for the US and UK economies, you may have noticed the interest rate cuts and massive stimulus bills just announced. The people in charge don't exactly share your optimism....

    We won't be going into the office for a while; working from home isn't as convenient, but much safer.

    Mar 16th, 2020 - 06:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Don and Tarance

    Sorry for not responding sooner, but I just finished having a remarkable le déjeuner of our garden tomatoes, stuffed with foie gras, duck confit and truffles from Chillan that was beautifully paired with a '98 Don Melchor — because perhaps life will end soon and if my liver survives...

    Do you think there a vaccine for the Hysteria-TDS virus yet? It’s spreading quicker than the Coronavirus/COVID-19.

    Some symptoms if you are infected with this sickness include:
    – Irrational urge to buy excessive amounts of toilet paper.
    – Identifying Trump as somehow complicit in causing the crisis.
    – Making your own hand sanitizer instead of simply using soap and water.
    – Continually wearing a mask designed for the woodworking shop.
    – Having thoughts that human life on this planet will end in two weeks.
    – Purchasing large amount of food that you have no idea how to prepare.
    – Telling your broker to sell all your stocks because you believe the Dow Jones is going below zero.
    – Finding yourself watching episodes of The Walking Dead during self-quarantine to educate yourself on what your life will shortly become.
    – Identifying with the political ideology of Jeremy Corbyn, Bernie Sanders and Joe Biden.

    But then again, what do I know? I'm just a simple mestizo-campesino that never had the privilege to study at a traditional university like yourselves.

    It's a tough life surviving in a third world country...

    Mar 16th, 2020 - 06:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Don Alberto

    Chicureo, you are right about one thing: You are just a simple campesino, who are unable to have a clean and realistic debate without ad hominem attacks and straw men.

    I shall not waste more time on your nonsense.

    Mar 16th, 2020 - 08:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    “I'm just a simple mestizo-campesino that never had the privilege to study at a traditional university like yourselves.”

    ;)

    You enjoying that war on straw?

    People like this may go some way to explaining the shortages:

    https://www.metro.co.uk/2020/03/16/brothers-bought-18000-bottles-hand-sanitiser-nowhere-sell-12401412/amp/

    In the UK supermarkets have also sold out of hand soap. Absurd since the stuff lasts practically forever.

    Mar 16th, 2020 - 08:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    DemonTree

    Thanks for the hand sanitizer link. It was hilarious!

    With the upcoming arrival to your family, you'll soon experience plenty of education regarding cleansing.

    By the way, I'm not against all the Democrat nominees — I actually liked Tulsi Gabbard and Bloomberg would have been palatable, but Biden would be a terrible choice. (Bernie is far more intelligent and alert, but he's worse than Corbyn.)

    In my opinion, Trump will massively win his reelection.
    ________________

    Tim Morrison is a senior fellow at the Hudson Institute and former senior director for counterproliferation and biodefense on the National Security Council.

    “It has been alleged by multiple officials of the Obama administration, including in The Post, that the president and his then-national security adviser, John Bolton, ”dissolved the office“ at the White House in charge of pandemic preparedness.” He said.

    Morrison notes that Trump did shrink the NSC -- because Obama had bloated it from 100 persons to 400 in just a few years.

    Under Trump, the NSC retained its epidemic personnel — just merged with biodefense and counterprolifereation.

    “One such move at the NSC was to create the counterproliferation and biodefense directorate, which was the result of consolidating three directorates into one, given the obvious overlap between arms control and nonproliferation, weapons of mass destruction terrorism, and global health and biodefense. It is this reorganization that critics have misconstrued or intentionally misrepresented. If anything, the combined directorate was stronger because related expertise could be commingled.” Morris explained.

    ¡Salud!

    Mar 16th, 2020 - 09:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    Trusting what the media tells you, Chicureo? Tut-tut. Don't you know that leads to TDS and voting for Jeremy Corbyn?

    And you still didn't say why you object to Biden. You support Trump, so intelligence and alertness can hardly be important to you. Does Biden want to ban avocados or something?

    Mar 16th, 2020 - 10:41 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Terence Hill

    Chicureo the flamer
    “are to be blamed, not President Trump” Thats because he is just perfect, and has a perfect family background.
    “Trump's grandfather was a pimp and tax evader; his father a member of the KKK.
    As they say, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree; Donald Trump's racism can easily be traced through his lineage.”
    http://ahtribune.com/us/2016-election/242-trump-grandfather-pimp-father-kkk.html

    Mar 16th, 2020 - 11:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    DemonTree

    Sincerely I’m astounded that San Francisco, California has shut itself down for 3 weeks.

    Chile has taken unprecedented actions, but nothing like SF. Even Canada has shut it’s borders...

    Regarding Biden, I suggest you examine the numerous videos on YouTube. I think Sanders is articulate and brilliant when he speaks, but Joe is uninspiring.

    One marvelous aspect of avocados is their ability to remain on the tree for months until harvest. You literally can store your crop on the orchard.

    All the permanent farm employees have been assured their jobs and we are extending sick leave.

    Take good care of your partner and enjoy the quality time with her.

    ¡Salud!

    Mar 16th, 2020 - 11:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    Chicureo the flamer
    “are to be blamed, not President Trump” Thats because he is just perfect, and has a perfect family background.
    ”President Eisenhower had been outraged to learn of the bribes that developers paid to bureaucrats and of the alleged profiteering practiced by Trump and others. Ike called them “sons of bitches.”
    As federal investigators had discovered, the elder Trump had collected an extra $1.7 million in rent—equivalent to $15 million today—before beginning to pay back his low-cost government loan. He was able to do this because a bureaucrat named Clyde Powell approved the paperwork. Powell, who had never been paid more than a modest government salary, had mysteriously amassed a small fortune. (While it was clear Powell accepted bribes, the sources were never officially identified.) In addition to collecting the extra rent, Trump paid himself a substantial architect’s fee. And he charged inflated rents based on an estimate of construction costs that was far greater than what he actually spent. All of this was legal, even if it did victimise taxpayers, veterans, and other renters.
    Later, state officials called Trump to testify about abuses in another housing subsidy program. In this case Trump had inflated his take from the program with tricks like renting his own equipment, such as earth movers and tile cutting machines, to himself and then charging the state many times its value.”
    https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/03/2016-donald-trump-brutal-worldview-father-coach-213750

    Mar 18th, 2020 - 01:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Tarrance
    I assume it’s getting lonely down in your mother’s basement. Take comfort knowing the outside is lonely as well.

    You surprising continue to defend a known mass murdering WWII criminal that has nothing to do with the current pandemic, but I assume you’re not taking your prescription drugs again.
    It doesn’t surprise me that Trump’s father was involved in shady business deals, but so what? (He was not responsible for the murdering of thousands of Europeans either.

    Try eating avocado on toast. Its very soothing for your nervous anxiety.

    You remaining in the basement is a wonderful thing for everyone!

    Mar 18th, 2020 - 02:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    Chicureo the flamer
    “experts” spouting their ideological hyperbole.“
    ”the Trump government handling of the crisis, which I think he's handled well.“
    Chicureo ”Although I've defended Pinochet despite his regrettable actions“
    ”All the permanent farm employees have been assured their jobs and we are extending sick leave.“
    Yeah well in spite of your unlikely claim, all your alleged previous benevolences didn't help stop over 50% of rural children under 15 suffering from malnutrition in the late sixties.
    ”I assume it’s getting ...” Ah your old mother hang-up has bubbled to the surface again
    “Psychological projection is a defence mechanism people subconsciously employ in order to cope with difficult feelings or emotions. Psychological projection involves projecting undesirable feelings or emotions onto someone else, rather than admitting to or dealing with the unwanted feelings.”
    Psychological transference, of attributing your own activities to others. Your very own 'mummy hang-ups,' which you frequently reveal in your 'matriarchal diatribes'
    https://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Transference+(psychology)
    Still maligning on honest to goodness war hero. I guess you must be a little short in that department in your lack lustre service on behalf of Pinochet.

    Mar 18th, 2020 - 04:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Tarance

    Thank you for your thoughtful and highly intellectual comments.

    Did you know avocado on toasted bread added to your diet can significantly lower your nervous anxiety?

    Besides of being delicious and versatile, healthy avocados are an excellent source of monounsaturated fat and vitamin E.

    Avocados have more soluble fibre than other fruit and contain a number of useful minerals such as iron, copper and potassium and are a good source of the B vitamin, folate.

    Buying healthy avocados from Chile help struggling campesinos that are maintaining co2 absorbing sustainable forests that produce tons of vital oxygen to positively improve the earth atmosphere.

    Stay socially segregated in your Canadian basement, which I know comes easy for you...

    Mar 18th, 2020 - 06:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    Chicureo the flamer
    “Stay socially..” Thats right, keep revealing that 'mummy fixation' of your's it makes it so less obvious doesn't it?
    I guess you must have been the absolute opposite of a genuine war hero. So insignificant you weren't even mentioned in dispatches. Couldn't have been much of a navigator as you're still making wrongly wild guesses as to my location.

    Mar 18th, 2020 - 06:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Tarance

    It's always a privilege to provide important information to a self declared Cuban Missile Crisis veteran that is a highly trained electronics expert.

    Eating frozen microwaveable pizza and potato chips can be healthy improved by adding nutritious avocados to your diet.

    Attached is a healthy delicious meal that you a sophisticated .
    https://www.saveur.com/salmon-ceviche-with-avocado-and-mango/

    Be thankful your decisive Prime Minister has closed your national borders. Soon the snow outside will melt outside.

    Mar 18th, 2020 - 07:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    Chicureo the flamer
    I understand your attachment to Trump, you both indulge in make believe fantasies. You are so out to lunch, in your contrived attempts at guessing where I am, and what is my available food choices. Well, eat your heart out as you have performed a perfect imitation of a typical rube. You're the sailor that never came home as you're all at sea.

    Mar 18th, 2020 - 08:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Tarrance

    Thanks again for your stimulating thoughtful comment. You really elevate the conversation!

    Avocado toast has become the most popular new cuisine topic. Attached are some great ideas. ENJOY!

    https://whatsgabycooking.com/avocado-toast-5-ways/

    AVOCADOS ARE GOOD FOR EVERYONE!

    Mar 18th, 2020 - 09:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    Chicureo the flamer
    “AVOCADOS ARE GOOD ...” has become the single issue you are reduced too. You should fire your script writer.
    “It is better to be silent and thought to be ignorant then to open one's mouth and remove all doubt.” R. G. Risch
    Man-up, take your beating, you have been bested by a better opponent.
    “The best way to win an argument is to begin by being right.” Jill Ruckeshaus, Saturday evening Post, March 3, 1973

    Mar 18th, 2020 - 10:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    CHILE AVOCADOS ARE DELICIOUS!

    Here are some more delicious recipes to enjoy

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/food/wp/2018/02/07/these-are-not-your-average-avocado-recipes/

    ¡Saludos!

    Mar 18th, 2020 - 10:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    Chicureo the flamer
    “CHILE AVOCADOS ARE ...” Like I previously stated has become the single issue you are reduced too. You should fire your script writer.
    “Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.” - Mark Twain

    Mar 18th, 2020 - 10:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    EATING CHILE AVOCADOS IS GOOD FOR EVERYONE!

    Did you know avocado on toasted bread added to your diet can significantly lower your nervous anxiety?

    Besides of being delicious and versatile, healthy avocados are an excellent source of monounsaturated fat and vitamin E.

    Avocados have more soluble fibre than other fruit and contain a number of useful minerals such as iron, copper and potassium and are a good source of the B vitamin, folate.

    Buying healthy avocados from Chile help struggling campesinos that are maintaining co2 absorbing sustainable forests that produce tons of vital oxygen to positively improve the earth atmosphere.

    Mar 18th, 2020 - 10:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    Chicureo the flamer and spam persister
    “CHILE AVOCADOS...”
    Why is it Called Spam? There is some debate about the source of the term, but the generally accepted version is that it comes from the Monty Python song, “Spam spam spam spam, spam spam spam spam, lovely spam, wonderful spam”.Like the song, spam is an endless repetition of worthless text.
    https://www.webopedia.com/TERM/S/spam.html

    Mar 23rd, 2020 - 04:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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