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Growing opinion in US that China's coronavirus figures are a “major cover-up operation”

Thursday, April 2nd 2020 - 07:58 UTC
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President Donald Trump cast doubt on Wednesday on the accuracy of official Chinese figures on its coronavirus outbreak after US lawmakers, citing an intelligence report, accused Beijing of a cover-up. Read full article

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  • Chicureo

    With all due respect to this pandemic, we are finally seeing and end very soon.

    As I've repeatedly mentioned to many of the naysayers commenting on Mercopress, a widely available, low cost and effective treatment has been proven in several trials to be effective. It does not cure the virus, but is saving lives.

    https://youtu.be/NyDjJ5ytc54

    (And yes, I'm very aware of the conflicting reporting in the mainstream press.)

    ¡Salud!

    Apr 02nd, 2020 - 02:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Enrique Massot

    So now that, due to late and inconsistent measures the pandemic the US number of those infected begin to dwarf China's numbers, the US suddenly “discover” that Chinese information isn't trustworthy?

    Well: First of all, the Chinese information it has been called into question for a while.

    Secondly, how valuable that information is for the States right now? Their measures have been different from state to state, their medical supply stockpiles are dwindling, president Trump has refused to promptly act on his medical advisors' recommendations. Instead of blaming the Chinese, the country should take power from their clearly incapable president and give it to a multiparty team lead by experts.

    Otherwise, the pandemic will continue to spread unabated and seriously impact their population.

    Apr 02nd, 2020 - 08:25 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Chicureo

    All the very best wishes to ALL the Canadian people. It seems the “incapable President” has somehow convinced the majority of USA voters otherwise...

    ¡Salud!

    Apr 02nd, 2020 - 08:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    Chicureo the Advocator of the Avocado
    So you claimed before “there is an effective treatment that has been successfully used in several countries using a low cost available drug: Hydroxychloroquine ”
    Which “says Dr. David Sullivan, professor of microbiology at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health and an infectious disease physician at the university’s malaria research institute. “Right now we have no clinical evidence that it works.”
    https://en.mercopress.com/2020/03/26/bolsonaro-clashes-with-governors-over-lockdowns-they-are-destroying-brazil/comments#comment507817
    ”As I've repeatedly mentioned” Thus, is sheer bunkum, in that it is merely, your unqualified and unsupported opinion.

    Apr 03rd, 2020 - 02:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Again I'm wishing all the very best for the wide diversity of Mercopress readers to get safely through this unfortunate crisis, including the two quarrelsome Canadian commenters on this article thread.

    Dissemination of accurate and internationally proven data is extremely important.

    Although unfortunately the wondrous avocado tree does not fare well in Canada, be assured that is a year round supply available from Canadian supermarkets — sourced from environmentally beneficial, carbon consuming and oxygen producing sustainable avocado forests.

    Delicious and healthy avocados are a great source of vitamins C, E, K, and B-6, as well as riboflavin, niacin, folate, pantothenic acid, magnesium, and potassium. They also provide lutein, beta-carotene, and omega-3 fatty acids. Avocados are full of healthy, beneficial fats that help to keep you full and satiated and served upon toast has proven to reduce stress. (And yes, even are an excellent natural skin care.)

    https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/270406

    ¡Salud!

    Apr 03rd, 2020 - 02:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • NativeAngeleno

    Chicureo, your attempts to clean up inaccuracies in media are unfortunately creating new ones.

    The majority in the US are NOT followers of Trump. Clinton outpolled him by 3 million and that number has only tripled since. Almost the entirety of the West Coast, especially California, hate Trump. His party is almost nonexistent there. Not coincidentally, they are the most virus-free in the country, following smarter health procedures than Trump could ever imagine.

    Trump's following is a decided minority, mostly consisting of older rural voters, who won him the presidency on a technicality, essentially because he won a majority of the least-populated states while Clinton won most of the urban ones: Rural areas, the land size itself, far outnumber urban ones in the US. This is a system instituted in 1789 and never changed! The success of the US has made it hard to change the system, which require a 3/4 vote approval by the very rural states refusing to give up their political power.

    And those are the facts on the ground in the US, a country literally retarded by its dumb oafs and their hero, Dumber-than-Shit Trump. That will all change after this year's elections in November, he has lost too much of his support after squeaking by with the win in 2016, as polls have consistently shown since he took office. This plague is as if punishment on the US by Our Great Creator, the Goddess Pachamama aka Earth.

    Apr 03rd, 2020 - 03:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    NativeAngelino

    (I respectfully assume from your name that you perhaps are a Californian.)

    I'm acquainted with the USA and its quixotic “electoral college” and understand that Ms. Clinton indeed won the popular vote in 2016... Current 2020 national polls (which I accept have been horrendously wrong in the past ), show Trump's handling of the crisis to be well over 50%. (Are the polls wrong?)

    I greatly admire your beautiful state and I'm very fortunate to have friends there. California is a complementary seasonal producer of avocados and table grapes so I've visited the ”golden state on numerous occasions.

    I'm curious what particular actions you mean get suggest the Trump administration should have done differently. (And I do recognize the excellent management of your state Democrat governor.)

    This is an article for your interest: https://archive.fo/3HNi3

    If I was a foolish high-stakes gambling man (which I am because I'm a farmer) I would bet my farm that Trump will win the upcoming November election.

    But then again, I'm just a humble farmer in Chile, with great respect for Mother Earth. I know her anger too well...

    ¡Salud!

    Apr 03rd, 2020 - 04:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    Chicureo the flamer and spammer
    “Dissemination of accurate and internationally proven data is extremely important.”
    Since all of your online activities have you pegged as a simple troll. For example your suggestion that this Alt R cite as credible, when my source Time Magazine flatly refutes their claim
    ”Overall, we rate One America News Far right biased based on story selection that consistently favors the Right and Mixed for factual reporting due to promotion of conspiracies, lack of sourcing and a few failed fact checks. OANN is one failed fact check away from moving to the Questionable Source list. (10/12/2016) (D. Van Zandt 01/19/2020) ... They may publish misleading reports and omit reporting of information that may damage conservative causes. Some sources in this category may be untrustworthy“
    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/one-america-news-network/

    Whereas my source Time magazine. ”A factual search reveals that Time Magazine has never failed a fact check.”
    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/one-america-news-network/

    Apr 04th, 2020 - 12:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    I remember reading that Time Magazine once named Adolph Hitler as Man of the Year... Also, the esteemed publication once ran a scandalous article that the mother of your current Prime Minister had an alleged love affair with Fidel Castro of Cuba. Apparently, Justin is Fidel's bastard son...

    Frankly, I was fascinated about the valuable data shared from the last link in my prior post. There was a plethora of global physician survey data — Spain is especially notable.

    “Hydroxychloroquine was overall chosen as the most effective therapy from a list of 15 options (37% of COVID-19 treaters).•75% in Spain, 53% Italy, 44% in China, 43% in Brazil, 29% in France, 23% in US and 13% in UK.”

    Something especially for the Canadians perhaps looking for alternatives to delicious and healthy avocado toast:
    https://www.delish.com/cooking/recipe-ideas/g2894/things-to-do-with-avocado/

    (In the 51 recipes, you'll discover Bacon Avocado Fries are a delicious low carb treat!)

    Please remember that the wondrous avocado is sourced from environmentally beneficial, carbon consuming and oxygen producing sustainable avocado forests.

    Delicious, versatile and healthy avocados are a great source of vitamins C, E, K, and B-6, as well as riboflavin, niacin, folate, pantothenic acid, magnesium, and potassium. They also provide lutein, beta-carotene, and omega-3 fatty acids.

    Avocados are full of healthy, beneficial fats that help to keep you full and satiated and served upon toast has proven to reduce stress. (And yes, even are a proven natural skin care.)

    When you buy avocados in the supermarket, you are positively assisting the Earth's environment and making it a better place to live for future generations.

    ¡Salud!

    Apr 04th, 2020 - 03:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    Chicureo the Advocator of the Avocado
    “I was fascinated about the valuable data”
    “OANN is one failed fact check away from moving to the Questionable Source list.”
    “A factual search reveals that Time Magazine has never failed a fact check.”
    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/time/
    It looks like my mainstream has your original fringe source beaten by a golden mile. I guess you guys off in the 'boonies' like your information primarily from the outer limits.
    As to your latest claim it only hints as a possibility. But it's still not totally effective, and it appears when used(as in severe cases) the outcome is still the same. As the Time article says ”In those patients, the load of SARS-CoV-2, the virus responsible for COVID-19, in their blood dropped after they received the medications, although their clinical symptoms didn’t change much ... Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases and member of the White House Coronavirus Task Force, said the data so far “was not done in a controlled clinical trial. So you really can’t make any definitive statement about it.”

    Apr 04th, 2020 - 12:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Yes, but the initial trials did not include the addition of a healthy diet, such as like adding avocado on toast.

    Toasted bread is good, but with avocado – the results are far better. The same when they incorporated the medicine in a “cocktail” of two other components...

    ¡Salud!

    Apr 04th, 2020 - 01:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    Chicureo the Advocator of the Avocado
    “Yes, but the initial trials ... like adding avocado” No, No, you're not going to be able to rely on irrelevancies and absurdities. It was your claim “low cost and effective treatment has been proven” as untrue. As in your claim it only hints as a possibility. But it's still not apparently effective, and it appears when used(as in severe cases) the outcome is still the same. As the Time article says “In those patients, the load of SARS-CoV-2, the virus responsible for COVID-19, in their blood dropped after they received the medications, although their clinical symptoms didn’t change much ...”

    Apr 04th, 2020 - 03:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    To simplify the idea:
    Effectively treating cases that show that improved results, does NOT imply a cure or vaccine.

    The small clinical trials conducted in France, New York and Spain all have shown positive results. There is now another 1,000 patient clinical trial into its first few days, but some countries have have already adopted the protocol, including Belgium and India.

    There are other treatments now showing positive results and at least three independent companies are claiming to have started successful vaccine trials, meaning perhaps a vaccine in 4 to 9 months public availability.

    ¡Salud!

    Apr 04th, 2020 - 03:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    Chicureo the Advocator of the Avocado
    “all have shown positive results” is your claim versus Time Magazine's “In those patients, the load of SARS-CoV-2, the virus responsible for COVID-19, in their blood dropped after they received the medications, although their clinical symptoms didn’t change much ...”. It begs the question, if there's very little change in their symptoms, how is this a positive result?

    Apr 04th, 2020 - 04:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    With all due civility and respect, how can you ignore the multiple articles showing positive results.

    For example: https://nypost.com/2020/04/03/connecticut-dad-credits-chloroquine-for-coronavirus-recovery/

    ¡Salud!

    Apr 04th, 2020 - 04:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    Chicureo the Advocator of the Avocado
    “Chris Tillett, said a combination of chloroquine with the HIV anti-viral drug Kaletra worked best.”
    ”Tillett’s wife, Elizabeth, “There was no anecdotal magic bullet,” Elizabeth told the outlet. “I think the supportive care that allowed his body to fight the virus could have very well been what helped him overcome COVID-19.
    Which is great news, but, is only one instance. Moreover, what is the relevance of Hydroxychloroquine to this person's treatment?

    Apr 04th, 2020 - 05:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Did you know the nutritional attributes of avocados help maintain healthy eyesight?
    Also, the consumption reduces stress and improves concentration.

    If you concentrate on the facts being reported from numerous sources, you'll find:

    There are numerous small specific clinical reports from France, New York, Spain and other countries. (Unfortunately Trump's enthusiastic comments have caused controversy, because there are hundreds of treated patients that have reported success and the cost is inexpensive.)

    Full complete scientific study trials are occurring in the USA and numerous countries, one for example: https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04328493

    Stay well, and best of luck. ¡Salud!

    Apr 04th, 2020 - 06:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    Chicureo the Advocator of the Avocado
    “Here are hundreds of treated patients that have reported success and the cost is inexpensive.” Unfortunately, the best you can proffer is a clinical trial that hopes “This viral attenuation should be associated with improved patient outcomes.”
    Meanwhile, top US specialist in the use of this drug has said ”Right now we have no clinical evidence that it works.”
    He is supported by Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases and member of the White House Coronavirus Task Force, said the data so far “was not done in a controlled clinical trial. So you really can’t make any definitive statement about it.” Which kind of puts the kibosh to your claim “low cost and effective treatment has been proven” as not true.

    Apr 04th, 2020 - 07:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Remarkable observations you make and I just watched a few minutes ago, Dr. Fauci comment on a live telecast on this specific subject.

    Trump has placed a high-stakes wager on securing millions of doses of Hydroxychloroquine. It will be interesting to see how this affects the November election results.

    ¡Salud!

    Apr 04th, 2020 - 09:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    Chicureo the Advocator of the Avocado
    “Trump has placed a high-stakes wager ...” I wouldn't bet the farm on anything he claims, as he's the most unreliable of sources

    Apr 05th, 2020 - 12:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    I'm a just simple campesino that is regularly accustomed to gambling odds far worse than a roulette table in Monaco...

    ...Trump is a Black Swan that defies all the pundits and I would wager he will win. His electoral opponent does not impress me.
    (I think the Democrats chose the wrong candidate.)

    My sincere question for you is what should the American President have done in managing this pandemic?

    ¡Salud!

    Apr 05th, 2020 - 01:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    Chicureo the Advocator of the Avocado
    “what should the American President ...” By his very nature he is incapable doing anything that is rational, so that is a moot question.

    Apr 05th, 2020 - 02:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Your non-answer highlights my point. If the Democrats had chosen a dynamic and younger candidate – especially a woman or a person-of-color, perhaps Trump would be defeated. Biden is 78 years old! Bernie is even older...

    Anyway, Trump seems unimpressed from today's conference: https://youtu.be/LBM-c30gT44

    ¡Salud y paz!

    Apr 05th, 2020 - 02:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    Chicureo the Advocator of the Avocado
    “Trump has placed a high-stakes wager on securing millions of doses of Hydroxychloroquine”

    “A president unfit for a pandemic
    Much of the suffering and death coming was preventable. The president has blood on his hands.
    While the spread of the novel coronavirus has been aggressive around the world, much of the profound impact it will have here in the United States was preventable. As the American public braces itself for the worst of this crisis, it’s worth remembering that the reach of the virus here is not attributable to an act of God or a foreign invasion, but a colossal failure of leadership.
    The outbreak that began in China demanded a White House that could act swiftly and competently to protect public health, informed by science and guided by compassion and public service. It required an administration that could quickly deploy reliable tests around the nation to isolate cases and trace and contain the virus’s spread, as South Korea effectively did, as well as to manufacture and distribute scarce medical supplies around the country. It begged for a president of the United States to deliver clear, consistent, scientifically sound messages on the state of the epidemic and its solutions, to reassure the public amid their fear, and to provide steady guidance to cities and states. And it demanded a leader who would put the country’s well-being first, above near-term stock market returns and his own reelection prospects, and who would work with other nations to stem the tide of COVID-19 cases around the world.
    A president who, consistent with his mistrust and undermining of scientific fact, has misled the public about unproven cures for COVID-19,”
    https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/03/30/opinion/president-unfit-pandemic/

    Apr 06th, 2020 - 11:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Gollum

    You have perfectly described the ongoing diatribe of what the opposition is declaring that Trump is unfit for leadership and completely wrong with his foolish quest in fighting this horrible pandemic.

    Others like myself, see instead the severe disability of common sense due to the horrendous Trump Derangement Symptoms clearly now exhibited by the liberal press.

    Per your quote: “...Much of the suffering and death coming was preventable. The president has blood on his hands...”

    “...the spread of the novel coronavirus ... here is not attributable to an act of God or a foreign invasion, but a colossal failure of leadership...”

    Your opinion is they president has blood on his hands and unless politicians act quickly, people will die?

    https://youtu.be/eXWhbUUE4ko

    Please remember that the wondrous avocado is sourced from environmentally beneficial, carbon consuming and oxygen producing sustainable avocado forests.

    Delicious, versatile and healthy avocados are a great source of vitamins C, E, K, and B-6, as well as riboflavin, niacin, folate, pantothenic acid, magnesium, and potassium. They also provide lutein, beta-carotene, and omega-3 fatty acids.

    Avocados are full of healthy, beneficial fats that help to keep you full and satiated and served upon toast has proven to reduce stress. (And yes, even are a proven natural skin care.)

    When you buy avocados in the supermarket, you are positively assisting the Earth's environment and making it a better place to live for future generations.

    ¡Salud!

    Apr 06th, 2020 - 05:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    Dr Fauci demonstrates new mask that will save thousands of lives:

    https://twitter.com/duty2warn/status/1242551404398612481/photo/1

    Apr 06th, 2020 - 07:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    DemonTree

    Touché

    Probably the press secretaries of both Trump and Bolsonaro would prefer this remedy as well.

    I surprised Gollum is not commenting on my two thoughtful videos today...

    ¡SALUD!

    Apr 06th, 2020 - 09:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    Chicureo the Advocator of the Avocado
    “Others like myself, see instead the severe disability of common sense ...”
    All the mainstream press is 'deranged' in your opinion. I don't think they'll lose any sleep over what a 'hick from the sticks' is opining.

    Apr 07th, 2020 - 12:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    A very proud and greatly fortunate “hick from the sticks” unashamed of lacking a traditional university education, just trying to get by in the countryside...

    Please remember that the wondrous avocado is sourced from environmentally beneficial, carbon consuming and oxygen producing sustainable avocado forests.

    Delicious, versatile and healthy avocados are a great source of vitamins C, E, K, and B-6, as well as riboflavin, niacin, folate, pantothenic acid, magnesium, and potassium. They also provide lutein, beta-carotene, and omega-3 fatty acids.

    Avocados are full of healthy, beneficial fats that help to keep you full and satiated and served upon toast has proven to reduce stress. (And yes, even are a proven natural skin care.)

    When you buy avocados in the supermarket, you are positively assisting the Earth's environment and making it a better place to live for future generations.

    ¡Salud!

    Apr 07th, 2020 - 03:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    Chicureo the Advocator of the Avocado
    So you careen from one subject to another, blundering in every post from one fiction to another, giving credence that your words are meaning less, and of no value.
    You're not a good example of benefits of avocados, because so far you been unable to show a simple winning cognisance argument. Thus, presenting the possibility that eating such a fruit appears to make you more stupid.

    Apr 07th, 2020 - 11:08 am - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Chicureo

    This was thread is now dead.

    Gollum needs to stop being a coward and answer on the Brazil thread.

    Avocado on toast is a natural proven help in reducing individuals suffering severe cases of Trump Derangement Syndrome. (Not a cure, but helps calm hysterical patients.)

    Gollum should consider a combination of Vallium with the soothing avocado.

    Apr 07th, 2020 - 05:48 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Terence Hill

    Chicureo the Advocator of the Avocado
    “You have perfectly described ...” I have described nothing what Have done is shown the opinion of the Boston Globe
    ”Yes, OBVIOUSLY Donald Trump Has a Personal Financial Reason for Pushing Hydroxychloroquine
    According to the New York Times, Trump “has a small personal financial interest” in Sanofi, the company that makes Plaquenil, which is the name-brand version of the drug.
    On top of that, the paper writes, “Some associates of Mr. Trump’s have financial interests in the issue. Sanofi’s largest shareholders include Fisher Asset Management, the investment company run by Ken Fisher, a major donor to Republicans, including Mr. Trump.”

    Apr 07th, 2020 - 10:28 pm - Link - Report abuse -1

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