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Mother of all scandals: “King” Bolsonaro and cabinet caught with their pants down

Monday, May 25th 2020 - 08:57 UTC
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On Apr 22, Brazil was fast becoming a new coronavirus flashpoint, but President Jair Bolsonaro and his cabinet barely mentioned the pandemic in a videotaped meeting that has triggered outrage and fuelled a potentially explosive investigation. Read full article

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  • Terence Hill

    “His education minister called for the Supreme Court justices to be thrown in jail for giving states the final say in the matter. His women's minister said governors and mayors should be arrested, too.”
    ”The King has no clothes
    The phrase bears some similarity to another modern-day expression - the elephant in the room. An essential factor with both phrases is the willingness of people to engage into an unspoken contract to willfully disbelieve what they know to be true.
    https://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/the-emperors-new-clothes.html

    May 25th, 2020 - 11:00 am - Link - Report abuse -3
  • bushpilot

    If you don't vote the way Terry wants you to vote:

    You are willfully disbelieving what you know to be true.

    May 25th, 2020 - 07:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Little J

    Our South American version of “Fake News” Trump

    May 25th, 2020 - 08:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    bushpilot

    It's obvious that the mendacious ”Marxist useful idiot” needs to take a hard look in his basement mirror, because he just looks like a windup mechanical mendacious monkey — madly clanging its little tin cymbals with nonsense...

    Little J

    Do you really think Lula or Dilma would have done anything better? My observations of the PT leads me to believe not...

    May 25th, 2020 - 09:16 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Terence Hill

    Chicureo the Advocator of the Avocado, Psychological Transferee, Narcissist, Criminal Libeller, & the Spam King
    You wrongly attributed it to Lenin.
    “The phrase ”useful idiot“ has often been attributed to Vladimir Lenin, but he is not documented as ever having used the phrase. In a 1987 article for The New York Times, American journalist William Safire investigated the origin of the term, noting that a senior reference librarian at the Library of Congress had been unable to find the phrase in Lenin's works and concluding that in the absence of new evidence, the term could not be attributed to Lenin Similarly, the Oxford English Dictionary in defining ”useful idiot“ says: ”The phrase does not seem to reflect any expression used within the Soviet Union“.
    https ://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot
    Whereas, ”the term originated in early 1950s America.“
    https ://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Useful_idiot
    ”Constant weird lies, a narcissist will lie even when the truth would serve them better
    They think that everyone is profoundly interested in their opinion about just about anything, irrespective of content.
    They are very judgemental of you and everyone else, will make wild suppositions on little or no evidence
    They just love to name drop
    They project their motives and intentions on to others
    They feel like they are above the law as they are special people
    They do not argue logically so you never get anywhere with them and they can easily change their mind mid argument
    They inappropriately assume knowledge or intimacy with others far too quickly or take a haughty superior attitude without anything to back it up http://narcissistory.com/?cat=10

    May 25th, 2020 - 10:06 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Enrique Massot

    Look at Chicureo. He is absent from postings about Chile and its own problems, but comes to a Bolsonaro's damaging story to divert the attention towards Lula and Dilma.

    “Do you really think Lula or Dilma would have done anything better?,” disingenuously he asks.

    Come on, Chicu. You know well Bolsonaro is covering in ridicule everything leaning to the right side of the rainbow and still you are coming here to normalize his behaviour?

    I did not think you would be going there, but you are outdoing yourself.

    But then again, what's more to expect from a loyal Pinochet fan?

    May 26th, 2020 - 04:59 am - Link - Report abuse -3
  • bushpilot

    What do you expect from an ideologue communist?

    May 26th, 2020 - 10:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    bushpilot

    It greatly amuses me every time when the two Marxist “useful idiots” refuse to acknowledge the horrendous crimes of the criminal activities of Maduro, Lula, Dilma and the entire PT — yet cry “wolf” because I recognize an admittedly imperfect, but courageous leader that saved my country from Communism.

    I have the fortune of having three Venezulean ex-pats working with me here in the Aconcagua Valley that wish they would have military overthrow in their beloved nation...

    Before Chavez, Venezuela was the richest country in Latin America with (by LA standards) outstanding public health and education with the largest proven petroleum reserves in the world...

    ...today, they have to import refined petroleum under armed escort to just stay functioning...

    The party of Dilma and Lula are infiltrated and controlled by Marxist socialists and Bolsonaro is a refreshing change in direction back away to free market capitalism, which the basement dwelling Gollum and the Marxist deranged Enrique can't accept...

    Brazil is a 200+ million populated time bomb unless they get the economy back into recovery during this pandemic scare.

    ¡Viva Socialismo!

    May 26th, 2020 - 03:00 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Terence Hill

    bushpilot
    “What do you expect from ...” A blatant discredited piece of McCarthyism
    “I despise people who go to the gutter on either the right or the left and hurl rocks at those in the center.” Eisenhower
    ”Red-baiting, also 'reductio ad Stalinum (/ˈstɑːlɪnəm/), is an informal logical fallacy that intends to discredit the validity of an opponent's logical argument by accusing, denouncing, attacking, or persecuting an individual or group as communist, socialist, Marxist, Stalinist or anarchist, or sympathetic towards these ...“
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red-baiting
    Chicureo the Advocator of the Avocado, Psychological Transferee, Narcissist, Criminal Libeller, & the Spam King
    ”It greatly amuses ... can't accept...” No proof, no truth.
    Opinions are like buts everyones got one. Just some stink more than others.
    “Extremes to the right and to the left of any political dispute are always wrong.” Dwight D. Eisenhower

    May 26th, 2020 - 04:15 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Chicureo

    bushpilot

    Delightfully, the basement-dwelling little mechanical mendacious monkey is now clanging its little tin cymbals — making crazed nonsensical noise about...

    ...McCarthyism...? Eisenhower...? His sycophantic admiration of Stalin and Marx...? Perhaps his fear of actually making up a commentary of his own creation, instead of brainlessly quoting from Wikipedia...?

    And, yes I admit publicly and truthfully, I'm currently living alone, in the an old adobe house without indoor plumbing and humming the incredibly sexy Gringa-Latina Linda Ronstadt's singing “Poor Poor Pitiful Me”... https://youtu.be/FmKJ66X0QvM

    Poor poor pitiful me
    Poor poor pitiful me
    Oh these boys won't let me be
    Lord have mercy on me
    Woe woe is me

    ...It's hilarious that the ignorant “Marxist useful idiot” cannot create a simple readable intelligent paragraph of its own...

    May 26th, 2020 - 04:54 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Terence Hill

    Chicureo the Advocator of the Avocado, Psychological Transferee, Narcissist, Criminal Libeller, & the Spam King
    “His sycophantic admiration of Stalin and Marx...?” Your failure to meet your burden of proof, absolutely confirms that you are a liar.
    “Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy; States of Affairs; First published Tue Mar 27, 2012
    Philosophers connect sentences with various items, such as thoughts, facts and states of affairs. Thoughts are either true or false in an absolute sense, never both or neither.
    plato.stanford.edu/entries/states-of-affairs/
    So if its unproven it must false, according to the accepted criteria and therefore a lie, since its impossible to be anything else, as it can never be “both or neither..”

    May 26th, 2020 - 05:21 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Chicureo

    Note the ignorant useful idiot's response is “cut and paste” devoid of individual thought which the creature self-defeats itself...

    SELF-DEFEATING ...you can't imagine the IRONY

    ...on another thread, the basement dwelling creature is delusional that I'm supposedly somehow suffering in the countryside...

    ...And yet Gollum is incapable of self-composing a simple readable intelligent paragraph...

    Lord have mercy on me...

    May 26th, 2020 - 05:58 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Terence Hill

    Chicureo the Advocator of the Avocado, Psychological Transferee, Narcissist, Criminal Libeller, & the Spam King
    You're opining about me is just a deflection. Any assertion you have made has been absolutely rebutted. While every assertion I have has been irrefutably proven.
    “So if its unproven it must false, according to the accepted criteria and therefore a lie, since its impossible to be anything else, as it can never be “both or neither..”
    Your failure is an admission by silence. SOMA's, also states
    ”ex silentio-lit. from silence. This refers to anything arrived at based on a lack of protestation or argument to the contrary. A theory, proof, assumption or conclusion based on a lack of contrary evidence. Commonly used in the expression argumentum ex silentio-proof from silence. So you've been throughly trounced, so take your beating like a man, and quit acting like a little bitch.

    May 26th, 2020 - 07:39 pm - Link - Report abuse -4
  • bushpilot

    All your arguments are wrong.

    All my arguments are “irrefutably” right. Just because.

    May 26th, 2020 - 09:57 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Terence Hill

    Chicureo the Advocator of the Avocado, Psychological Transferee, Narcissist, Criminal Libeller, & the Spam King
    Take your beating like a man, and quit acting like a little bitch.
    You're your own worst enemy, you provide all the evidence against yourself
    “People do not seem to realize that their opinion of the world is also a confession of character” Ralph Waldo Emerson
    “No way of thinking or doing, however ancient, can be trusted without proof.” Henry David Thoreau

    May 26th, 2020 - 10:21 pm - Link - Report abuse -4
  • bushpilot

    OK Rocky, tell us about your character.

    May 27th, 2020 - 01:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    Still in “flux”, it would appear.

    May 27th, 2020 - 12:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    As we clearly see, the ignorant creature bitch is devoid of individual thought and is incapable of composing a single self-composed paragraph...

    May 27th, 2020 - 02:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    Chicureo
    To be fair though, with your patient help and encouragement, he has managed to string a sentence together, the one where he quotes all the magnificent titles he has invested you with.

    “Chicureo the Advocator of the Avocado, Psychological Transferee, Narcissist, Criminal Libeller, & the Spam King”.

    You are of course well known for your good works with the marvellous Avocado, however I had no idea about your medical and legal qualifications or your dominant position in the canned meat products market.

    And despite you having to endure lonely isolation amidst your barely habitable building project, high in the unforgiving Andes and with only the finest of food and wine with which to sustain yourself, you still find time to help the little Troglodyte to “express his inner self”.

    Marvellous, a lesson to us all.

    May 27th, 2020 - 03:56 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Terence Hill

    Pugol-H
    “You having to endure lonely isolation...a lesson to us all.” Not at all he has you to commiserate with, birds of a feather flock together.

    “Isolation

    Because of narcissists’ lack of compassion and their antagonism, as they age their relationships and friendships often falter or fail, leaving them lonely and isolated:

    Spouses may have left or withdrawn to avoid their criticism and combativeness.
    Adult children may have pulled away or cut contact altogether because of their toxic influence.
    Their grandchildren may be estranged from them because their adult children have asserted boundaries to protect their families.
    Friends may have pulled away because of their unmasked arrogance, selfishness, and envy.
    Neighbors and other community members may have rejected them because of their callous behavior and rude assertions of superiority and entitlement.
    Extended family may have excluded them because of their divisiveness.” https://narcissistfamilyfiles.com/2017/09/26/big-sissies-how-and-why-narcissists-get-worse-with-age/

    May 27th, 2020 - 04:57 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • bushpilot

    Chicureo,
    You were called a “sissy”, but try and contain your rage.

    May 27th, 2020 - 06:12 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Chicureo

    Pugol-H bushpilot

    Being accused of being a “sissy” has nearly broken me, and will force me to pull another cork in the evening when the workmen leave me in my miserable solitude...

    I would agree with your overall insightful commentary, except I do take exception about my HIGH location...

    The farmhouse elevation is slightly over 600m (MSL), located well BELOW the shadow of the high unforgiving Andes — capped by the nearby Aconcagua mountain reaching 6960m. (As the peak is located across the Chilean border — I literally can physically see Argentina from the farm on a clear day.)

    Speaking of altitudes, Madame and my youngest daughter did indeed escape my “lack of compassion and antagonism”, and are currently encountering blissful peaceful shelter at precisely 3000m. My daughter's romantic breakup has resulted in an emotional re-bonding with her mother. It's a rare opportunity for the two alone, yet completely connected with the entire world.

    Gollum is emotionally and intellectually incapable of understanding that normal adult men actually enjoy periods of solitude — and many times, marital relations actually are strengthened by separation.

    There is a specific reason why my partner is referred to as Madame DeFarge — because the woman does has a fiery volatile temper...

    Although I recognize the horror of this terrible pandemic — actually I feel highly fortunate and although it's still too early for reconciling the eventual death toll — from a Machiavellian point of view — by seizing the serendipitous opportunities my family has substantially profited.

    By the way, I don't think that the little Troglodyte understands the origin of what spam actually is — but it's FAR superior to the Soviet Union tinned “ham product” that was offered with rationing coupons during the Allende administration...

    I'm also amused of Gollum's lack of response — perhaps Schrödinger's cat has finally got his tongue...

    ¡Saludos!

    May 27th, 2020 - 08:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    Chicureo the Advocator of the Avocado, Psychological Transferee, Narcissist, Criminal Libeller, & the Spam King
    So thanks for the confirmation of your narcissism.
    “lack of response — perhaps Schrödinger's” Hardly since it has no relevance, as it's not germane to the issue at hand.
    “Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy; States of Affairs; First published Tue Mar 27, 2012
    Philosophers connect sentences with various items, such as thoughts, facts and states of affairs. Thoughts are either true or false in an absolute sense, never both or neither”. Being from Stanford speaks for itself.

    May 27th, 2020 - 08:37 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • DemonTree

    “Do you really think Lula or Dilma would have done anything better?”

    Probably. Bolsonaro is setting the bar pretty low right now. Neither of them seem the type to dismiss the virus as 'a touch of flu' and Dilma at least was likely to listen to medical advice.

    May 27th, 2020 - 08:38 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Jack Bauer

    Chicureo
    Didn't you find Gollum's statement “”The King has no clothes” rather funny ? neither does he. He leaps frantically around his basement, in the raw, caressing LDS.

    And he has the nerve to question you about the expression “useful idiot” ?
    “You wrongly attributed it to Lenin... ”useful idiot“ has often been attributed to Vladimir Lenin, but he is not documented as ever having used the phrase”.

    Well, 'not documented', is not necessarily 'wrongly attributed'....and this, even after his awful slip up when he claimed that “slander is the tool of the loser”, was Socrates' phrase ...amongst other foul stenches emanating fm his basement, I smell a case of Alz Heimer.
    And his “as it's not germane to the issue at hand”...LOL, pedantry at it's best.

    DT
    Do not intend getting into a debate about the inmate and the buffoon but, had Haddad won the end 2018, without a doubt we would now be trailing the path of destruction, following the trend set in 2013/14....we'd be 1st cousins to Maduro.

    The PT's (still) praises him...they defend him tooth and nail, and maintain that VZ is a thriving democracy...'n an example to be followed by the rest of South America.
    Gives you an idea of what would have been in store for us had the inmate's 'post' won.

    But I'm quite capable of criticizing B as well....while he does indeed give a lot of ammo to the press to attack him, their only interest seems to focus on the bad....they are even reluctant to say a good word about the government's efforts to ensure minimum income for about 60 million workers (contributors or not, to the system) who have lost their livelyhood due to the pandemic.

    “Neither of them seem the type to dismiss the virus as 'a touch of flu'”....that, you don't know....but what about Lula's remark last week, in an attempt to defend mass nationalization, “just as well nature created the virus” ?....and his remarks on the 2008 crisis..“it's just a small wave, won't affect us”.

    May 28th, 2020 - 09:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Jack and DemonTree

    Venezuela is the “elephant in the room” that several refuse to address.

    It's a well known “secret” that both the PT and CFK have praised the Venezuelan government.

    I look at Haddad as I look as well at Clinton with equal contempt. Bolsonaro and Trump are reckless mavericks, but the alternatives were truly horrible.

    Which brings me to the Americans: If the Democrat party had nominated a dynamic intelligent candidate (male-gay-female-black) they would probably win the upcoming election.

    Instead they chose a 78 year old senile political hack with a ton of baggage...

    Love or hate him, Trump will win in November.

    Finally, you really should explain that the LDS abbreviation refers to Gollum's soulmate companion: LONG DONG SILVER, which the creature jealously covets along with his bi-sexual inflatable doll. Otherwise, some people might think you were referring to the church of the LATTER DAY SAINTS, aka Mormons...

    May 28th, 2020 - 09:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    Chicureo,
    Noted, will avoid using the abbreviation LDS.....will use the 'enlarged' version, as that is how Terry, aka, Gollum, likes his (LDS') dong.

    May 28th, 2020 - 10:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    Chicureo
    Spam is not the only thing he doesn’t understand, it would seem.

    Such wonderful titles he gives out:

    “Chicureo the Advocator of the Avocado, Psychological Transferee, Narcissist, Criminal Libeller, & the Spam King”

    “Jack Bauer Proof less, Truth less, Psychological Transferee, & Nasty Little Pervert”

    “DemonTree the slavish follower aka The Appendage”

    And LDS would be “The Precious” then.

    May 28th, 2020 - 10:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Jack

    Careful, he may get PISSED and accuse you of being a sissy and throw in a few senseless quotes of Yeats, Eisenhower and Lenin...

    Oh my!

    May 28th, 2020 - 11:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    Aha a duet of losers and lamenters repetitions, ad nauseam ad tedium.
    “Repetition does not transform a lie into a truth.” Franklin D. Roosevelt

    May 29th, 2020 - 10:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    JB
    The Peronists in Argentina have the same view of Maduro and they are doing a much better job containing the virus than Brazil. But Lula has certainly put his foot in his mouth with that remark, does he think the 27,000 people who've died are just collateral damage? The best you can say is that at least he apologised.

    Chicureo
    Ironically, the Democrats seem to be the more conservative party when it comes to nominating candidates.

    May 29th, 2020 - 04:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    DemonTree

    With sincere respect, as well as recognizing we are foreign observers with a parallax political view...

    The Democrat party originally fielded some very very dynamic intelligent candidates (something like 30 total) and the final two — were Sanders and Biden. My impression was young progressives supported Sanders and Biden was bolstered by the African American and moderate vote of the party.

    One personal favorite of mine, was Tulsi Gabbard although an Amy Klobuchar was eventually a strong finalist that is highly qualified and represents the Midwestern USA that was key in electing Trump in 2016.

    What I admire about Trump is he ruthlessly attacks for the jugular of his opponent and the opposition really needed an intellectual agile candidate.

    Despite what I think of Sanders as a socialist — I also think he'd be marvelous to watch debating Trump. Sanders has been fiercely committed to the same consistent message throughout his career. He's the underdog with the tenacity that could have possibly even won...

    Then again, I'm just an ignorant observer that has been wrong many times...

    If you remember, I predicted Boris would win in a landslide. I believe the same landslide happening again in November if Biden remains the Democrat nominee.

    May 29th, 2020 - 06:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    Chicureo
    What do you think of Gollum's below quotation ?

    “Repetition does not transform a lie into a truth.” Franklin D. Roosevelt.

    I just found it a bit contradictory, given that 'repetition' is his main expedient.... it's exactly what he does ALL the time ; the fact he ignores what he himself preaches to others, makes me wonder, does he even understand what he's quoting ? or is it just the parrot-syndrome ?

    And he throws Latin expressions around - 'ad nauseam ad tedium' just for one - as if he were a Latin scholar....when the sad truth is he is anything but....

    DT
    It's pretty obvious that Lula only apologised because of the widespread bad reaction it provoked.... which makes his apology meaningless....especially because there is no doubt he still believes what he said. It shows his true, evil character, or, God forbid, would he say something he does not believe in ? (LOL...)

    Fact is he thought he could be smart and score a few points at the cost of the government, by using the disease and 1000s of deaths....but it backfired.

    While B is doing his share of pissing out the pot, we certainly don't need a 9-fingered crook active in politics again.
    The fact he is presently out of jail, and going around making disturbing political statements, is absurd....but we have 6 STF judges to thank for that (especially those who resorted to political jurisprudence to overturn their own decisions of only 2 years earlier).

    May 29th, 2020 - 07:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    Jack Bauer Proof less, Truth less, Psychological Transferee, & Nasty Little Pervert
    “given that 'repetition' is his main expedient” Thats because you and your ilk make unproven, repetitive, and refuted assertions.
    “As if he were a Latin scholar” I grew up in a household where such sayings were part of the expressed vocabulary, you didn't? Its noted that you can find no fault with their merit.
    “We have 6 STF judges to thank for that” “The sabotage of Lula’s candidacy required intervention by head of the Armed Forces, General Villas Boas, with a veiled, televised threat, which swung the Supreme Court away from granting Lula habeas corpus by a single vote. As a result, former Military Captain Jair Bolsonaro was elected president, and Lava Jato Judge Sérgio Moro, who put him there, was appointed his Justice and Security Minister.”
    http://www.brasilwire.com/how-the-united-states-killed-brazils-democracy-again/

    May 29th, 2020 - 08:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Jack

    Gollum's latest post proves your assertion.

    Did you ever see the brilliant Dead Poets Society Movie, starring Robin Williams? The classroom depicted was hauntingly familiar to my personal instruction at school and if you remember — the bad character portrayed in the movie was defeated in the end. Do you remember why?

    The bad guy hires a scholar in order to cheat in the final post graduate oral exam rematch, and the examiner (whose discovered the cheating) asks a question that cannot be accessed by written reference (or Google today) and yet anyone that paid attention during the original class knew the answer.

    It's the same for the creature, who blithely and carelessly posts quotes from Wikipedia and yet really cannot comprehend the what the noted author is conveying to a reader.
    (He can reference any subject on Wikipedia, but cannot interpret the meaning any more than as an idiom either.)

    As Gollum points out, I spend my solitary misery and silence by reading.

    What's remarkable and surprising to myself is the second or third or fourth reading of the same text by great authors like Pablo Neruda — take on a completely different meaning as our lives and circumstances change. (The wine you're savoring also has an effect...)

    A clear point of evidence that I challenged Gollum with, was to simply self-compose an original legible entire paragraph — which the creature continues to fail.

    And for Gollum, I repeat we both know what he really looks like:
    https://www.richmond.com/dating-in-richmond-grown-man-living-in-mom-s-basement/article_59675fe4-563c-11e4-ae7a-001a4bcf6878.html

    So many fabulous books to read, adventures to be had and great love to share and the creature seethes in it's mother's basement gathering noblesse titles as “Avocador of the Avocado” and I await a sixth title...

    May 29th, 2020 - 08:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    Chicureo the Advocator of the Avocado, Psychological Transferee, Narcissist, Criminal Libeller, & the Spam Ki
    “I challenged” Who died and made you God? Fuck you and the horse you rode into town on.
    Still projecting, which clearly shows whats on your mind, thanks for the insight. No proof, no truth.
    “When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.” ― Socrates

    May 29th, 2020 - 09:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    Chicureo
    Yeah, I watched the movie....y e a r s ago.....Gollum has very little going for him intelectually, so he has to cheat.

    ”(The wine you're savoring also has an effect...)“.....sure does....on many things, mostly good.

    I had no idea that ”such sayings” (in Latin) “were part of the expressed vocabulary” in his basement “where he grew up”.....I have a confession to make.....I grew up in a home in which I first spoke Spanish and English, and later, only English....Latin I learned at school, the proper way - but I never went around uttering Latin 'sayings'....how 'chic' it must have been, and made him feel special....perhaps his Latin upbringing is responsible for his shitty English.

    When I mentioned the STF, making a vague reference to the socialist ideologues, I knew it would give him a headache.....unfortunately, the creature has only had access to a few leftist sites in his basement, so it's easy to understand why he repeats the same ole shit all the time.....and it's useless to refute it, because the bot is programmed to spew out only lies. But who cares ?

    May 29th, 2020 - 09:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Jack

    Wine has destroyed some of my precious brain cells. You grew up in a Spanish/Portuguese speaking home?

    You have me intrigued...

    May 29th, 2020 - 11:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    Chicureo the Advocator of the Avocado, Psychological Transferee, Narcissist, Criminal Libeller, & the Spam Ki
    “I challenged” Who died and made you God? Fuck you and the horse you rode into town on.
    Still projecting, which clearly shows whats on your mind, thanks for the insight. No proof, no truth.
    “When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.” ― Socrates

    May 30th, 2020 - 12:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Jack

    Sometimes the creature's post is helpful as I needed to correct my earlier post.

    You grew up in a English/Spanish speaking home with Portuguese as your third language?

    Madame and I screwed with our poor three children during their childhood as she spoke to them in française and they attended the Grange so Spanish was their third.

    Have you ever noticed a red opened the day before, sometimes is superior to the first day?

    May 30th, 2020 - 02:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    Jack Bauer Proof less, Truth less, Psychological Transferee, & Nasty Little Pervert
    “So he has to cheat” While you constantly prove you are an unmitigated liar otherwise you'd present proof. No proof, no truth.
    Your failure to meet your burden of proof of your assertion, absolutely confirms that you are a liar.
    “Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy; States of Affairs; First published Tue Mar 27, 2012
    Philosophers connect sentences with various items, such as thoughts, facts and states of affairs. Thoughts are either true or false in an absolute sense, never both or neither.
    plato.stanford.edu/entries/states-of-affairs/
    So if its unproven it must false, according to the accepted criteria and therefore a lie, since its impossible to be anything else, as it can never be “both or neither..”
    You're opining about me is just a deflection. Any assertion you have made has been absolutely rebutted. While every assertion I have made has been irrefutably proven.

    May 30th, 2020 - 12:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    Terence Hill
    'ad nauseam ad tedium'

    “I grew up in a household where such sayings were part of the expressed vocabulary”

    Talking to you, by any chance were they?

    May 30th, 2020 - 02:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    Pugol-H
    “Talking to you” Give yourself a little more credit to your cuddling up behaviour. You know your, servile, subservient, fawning, obsequious, sycophantic, excessively deferential, toadying, ingratiating, unctuous, grovelling, cringing, toadyish, sycophantish, abject, craven, humble, Uriah Heepish, self-abasing; informal slimy, bootlicking, sucky, soapy, forelock-tugging, brown-nosing, apple-polishing, arse-licking, bum-sucking; kiss-ass, ass-kissing, suckholing, unoriginal, uninspired, unimaginative, uninventive, non-innovative, imitative, derivative, creeping Jesus.

    May 30th, 2020 - 04:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    Chicureo
    “Jack

    Wine has destroyed some of my precious brain cells. You grew up in a Spanish/Portuguese speaking home?

    You have me intrigued...”

    Don't be intrigued....Spanish and English until I was about 10, then only English as Portuguese crept in....the English and Portuguese....Spanish unfortunately, fell by the wayside....today, it's pretty rusty.
    Not wanting to sound pedantic, or superior to Gollum - God forbid - I actually studied Latin for 6 years....but I never caused any 'nauseam' or 'tedium'....

    As to your brain cells, not to worry....all in a good cause.

    I see that the terry-bot has told you and the horse you rode into town on, to get f****d...yet again.....what a charming creature Gollum must be when he's on his meds.....or is he already ? methinks it'd make no difference, already too far gone.
    The most humane thing to do would be to put the creature down.....and bury it in the basement...with it's mug glued to the headstone.....“here lies Gollum, a mixture of slimy creature and bot, never fully understood, always frustrated”.


    Pugol
    right on....it was his parents who felt nauseated when the boring little twit crawled out of the basement....
    And again, he proves how repetitive he is....all those words, a waste of space, meaningless.....except for 'slimy' which describes him down to a tee.

    May 30th, 2020 - 10:21 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • DemonTree

    Earlier today I was talking and said the word 'onward', and my phone randomly decided to activate and spoke up with the definition. Reminded me strongly of Gollum, he's always posting dictionary definitions of common words, as if he thinks it makes him look smart. Bizarre.

    He works just like Siri and Alexa, if he sees certain keywords or phrases such as “toilets Brazil”, he starts spewing his list of quotes and links. And when it comes to arguments, not only does he fail to realise appeal to authority is a fallacy, but since he doesn't understand any subject, he believes it's the only possible way to prove something.

    May 31st, 2020 - 03:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    Jack Bauer Proof less, Truth less, Psychological Transferee, & Nasty Little Pervert
    “his rage is escalating ... he is easily offended” on the contrary I feel quite blasé.
    Whereas your at the top of your game with the following posts:
    “TH and Lula …both are arrogant liars, uncouth, disgusting pigs, amoral, immoral” You have described yourself to the Tee and unlike you I can use your own gutter language as confirmation of your total lack of refinement. “Unemployment in recession-hit Brazil… Oct 31, 2015 ... take you fairy dress off and start fondling your dolls.” “Rousseff pledges … put on your new dress, be gay and frolic, and you might even manage to get yourself reamed.”; “Unemployment in recession-hit Brazil …Nov 05th, 2015 - 05:19 pm. ..your inflatable dolls never complain when you can't get the wrinkes out of your limp noodle, is what gives you this impression... they just fart when you squeeze them..”: “Desperate for funds Jan 20th, 2016 - 03:12 pm ..why don't you pull Long-Dong Silver out of your closet”
    https://en.mercopress.com/2020/05/21/brazil-erratic-strategy-to-combat-covid-19-advocates-the-use-of-chloroquine/comments#comment509023

    May 31st, 2020 - 11:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    Chicureo
    Re your comment on the now closed thread:

    “I been living inside A Tale Of Two Cities since shortly after being first commissioned...”

    You are lucky to have avoided an appointment with Madame La Guillotine... so far. ;)

    The little déspota currently is refusing to let me get anything done. While I hold her she is sweet and peaceful, a little angel, but as soon as I put her down, 'waaaaaaah'.

    We've had some drama in my family. My sister's new flat in London turns out to be infested by bedbugs, and after two unsuccessful attempts at eradicating them, she has become unnerved and broken lockdown to flee to our mother's house with the kids. She's now fully prepared to abandon the flat, and all their furniture and belongings completely rather than risk seeing the terrifying bugs again. Her guy is not currently inclined to such drastic action, but apparently is coming round to her way of thinking.

    May 31st, 2020 - 02:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    DT
    Bed bugs ? nasty, blood sucking creatures.....Oh hell, that made an image of Terry-bot, aka Gollum, flash through my mind....
    Apologize for touching on such an unpleasant subject, but his old, torn mattress in the basement, is infested with them...don't know which is more disgusting, him or the bugs.

    I liked his “I feel quite blasé”..
    Blasé definition : “apathetic to pleasure or excitement as a result of excessive indulgence or enjoyment”...
    Key words are “...as a result of excessive indulgence or enjoyment”......very significant, in view of Gollum's constant self-indulgence while bouncing up and down on Long Dong's we know what.

    And he just can't help repeating the dozens of truths said about him......must be another of his masochistic habits ...which gives him a false sense of pride.


    Chicureo (continuation of “Brazil erratic strategy”, just closed)

    “The plaster has been applied amazingly fast, with the entire new kitchen complete with the first coat. They will return next weekend for the second application as this cool weather and the workmen availability require it. Moist plaster is a depressing gray color, but it's really satisfying. Monday, the start laying and repairing the flooring — all the same terracotta red tile, which makes it incredibly easy and simple to accomplish.

    This evening I'm enjoying a '08 Viña Laura Hartwig Cabernet”.

    Nothing like sitting back, enjoying a glass of wine while you appreciate the visible progress in the kitchen...
    Salud !

    May 31st, 2020 - 05:47 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Terence Hill

    Jack Bauer Proof less, Truth less, Psychological Transferee, & Nasty Little Pervert
    “On such an unpleasant subject” but you then go on to project your own personal experiences.
    Like I've said before, you're the best weapon against yourself.

    May 31st, 2020 - 06:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    DemonTree Jack

    It really has been a beautiful cloudless quiet Sunday and life is good.

    “I been” aughhh “I've been”...alcohol does destroy brain cells...

    I'm sincerely missing my femme protagoniste, but the Carabineros are strictly enforcing salvoconductos and it's complicated to obtain them. They continue enjoying the apartment — and I really need to pay careful attention to the critical pruning, as well as the workmen. (They're finishing the first application of plastering today with repairing and laying floor tile tomorrow.)

    Nice to see la déspota pequeña is terrorizing her father. (I'd love the adventure of raising my three again.)

    Sorry to learn about your sister's infestation of the highly difficult to eradicate bedbug. Those nasty pests are resistant to Malathion and Baygon — and can travel in her belongings to new accommodations if she moves.

    We've come across an infestation of Black Widow and Brown Recluse spiders here and I've had the house here fumigated with the all powerful Cyphenothrin that my Israeli friends introduced me to.

    And yes, the irritating bloodsucking vile creature does indeed dwell as a mindless android difficult to eradicate bot.

    By the way, the Laura Hartwig Cabernet is very good. (Not outstanding, but very satisfying.)

    ¡Saludos!

    (Why only four titles of noblesse for Jack? Is it because he doesn't treat your inflatables with proper reverence? Why isn't Wikipedia used anymore in your posts? Why on earth that you constantly fantasize about fairy dresses and fondling children's dolls?)

    May 31st, 2020 - 07:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    Jack Bauer Proof less, Truth less, Psychological Transferee, & Nasty Little Pervert
    Chicureo the Advocator of the Avocado, Psychological Transferee, Narcissist, Criminal Libeller, & the Spam King
    Your, thoughts, your admission, and your consequence .“for our purposes, it is what the speaker can be held accountable to that counts, not what he privately thinks.” So anything you opine says nothing about me, and every thing about you.
    “The Relevance of Intention in Argument Evaluation, Charlotte Jørgensen
    Over the last decades, the notion of intentionality has been challenged from various theoretical perspectives within rhetoric and argumentation.”(the action or process of reasoning systematically in support of an idea, action, or theory: lines of argumentation used to support his thesis.)
    “The major consequence of the responsibility condition is that the speaker, because he is answerable for what he has said, may be deemed to act as if he were sincere – whether he actually is sincere or not. FOR OUR PURPOSES, IT IS WHAT THE SPEAKER CAN BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE TO THAT COUNTS, NOT WHAT HE PRIVATELY THINKS.”
    https://cpb-us-e1.wpmucdn.com/blog.umd.edu/dist/6/47/files/2012/08/Jorgensen-Intent1.pdf

    May 31st, 2020 - 08:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    Chicureo
    Sounds like your renovation is still going well. Probably for the best that the female members of the family are not there if the nearest bathroom is a mile away.

    Apparently the bedbugs were treated by heating the whole flat above 50C, but the company that did it said there must have been a cold spot. Meanwhile my sister had to take her baby and toddler and leave the flat for 5 hours, with nowhere to go and forbidden to visit friends. We're not supposed to go and stay with relatives either, but if the government can break the rules then they can't be that important...

    At least we don't have poisonous spiders to worry about too.

    Gollum also resembles the bedbugs in being difficult to get rid of. Mention any of his topics of interest and up he pops again. Though he is occasionally useful if you want to post a second time.

    May 31st, 2020 - 10:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    Chicureo
    The bot with a bug-infested hard drive in its head doesn't seem capable of deciding whom to reply to....
    His “like I've said before”.... yeah, we all know just too well.....It repeats itself and addresses its 'really useless' explanations to everyone...blah, blah, blah..
    Why doesn't the potty-mouthed bot just pull the plug and spare us all this nonsense ?

    BTW, have never seen Laura Hartwig here.....

    May 31st, 2020 - 10:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    DemonTree the slavish follower aka The Appendage
    Oh here comes the bootlicking, third leg of the triad pirouetting back in again.
    “up he pops again” Are you a bit slow? I responded to a direct personal attack, like yours.
    “There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance.” Hippocrates
    Jack Bauer Proof less, Truth less, Psychological Transferee, & Nasty Little Pervert
    “doesn't seem capable of deciding” both of your comments were personal so the same rebuttal applies to both. So you have been shown that any projections you make reflex solely on you since cannot provide proof, your claim must be lie according to the Stanford critique.
    “it is what the speaker can be held accountable to that counts” In other words, if you said it, you alone did it.
    “within rhetoric and argumentation.”(the action or process of reasoning systematically in support of an idea, action, or theory: lines of argumentation used to support his thesis.)”
    The Relevance of Intention in Argument Evaluation, Charlotte Jørgensen

    Jun 01st, 2020 - 12:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Jack DemonTree

    Frankly, I suspect your sister's heat treatment will be a failure.

    (Jack — you only merit 4 titles of noblesse, what will it take to achieve my level?)

    Viña Laura Hartwig is a family operation in Colchagua so small, they utilize a mobile independently operated bottling trailer facility — that bottles their wine. (This service is used by many boutique operations.)

    This evening, I dined in grand style with a can of “Dennisons's original chile con carne with beans” — warmed sideways into my battered toaster oven, before carefully opening. The Laura Harwig is completely finished. (There is a temptation to open a new bottle, but tomorrow is an early busy day.

    The fireplace is really pleasant right now, I love the warmth, smell and noise. A major advantage to Chicureo because wood fireplaces there are no longer allowed to be used.

    Cheers!

    BTW: Does the creature really understand who and what Charlotte Jørgensen signifies by quoting her writings? What irony and certainly explains the creature's lack of comprehension of understanding...

    Jun 01st, 2020 - 02:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    Chicureo the Advocator of the Avocado, Psychological Transferee, Narcissist, Criminal Libeller, & the Spam King
    “really understand who and what Charlotte Jørgensen signifies” It's crystal clear, the speaker is held to an absolute liability for what they say; you say it wear it, you wear it.
    The unproven sayings reflect entirely and only on the pronouncer, they are not subject to any other interpretation, or you'd be able to provide evidence.
    “it is what the speaker can be held accountable to that counts”

    Jun 01st, 2020 - 09:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    Chicureo
    Wow, you're right. I just had a look at Ms Jørgensen's paper and she is arguing the exact opposite of what Terry-Bot is claiming.

    “This discussion leads on to the third section in which I, via a presentation of an ethical standard for rhetorical argumentation, suggest how the arguers’ intention remains central to rhetorical inquiry.”

    Trouble is, the creature is not capable of reading and understanding anything above a primary school level, so he just does his keyword search and picks out any phrase that appears to support his argument. Even if he could understand the paper, he wouldn't bother reading it because (ironically) he doesn't understand how arguments can be supported with facts and logic but thinks a list of out-of-context quotes will do the job - and in his mind only his own quotes count.

    PS. You should try heating the chilli over the wood fire next time for a really authentic experience. There's nothing like an open fire, wood and coal fires were banned at our old house too and we enjoyed using the fireplace in our new house until the weather got too hot.

    Jun 01st, 2020 - 11:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    DemonTree the slavish follower aka The Appendage
    “she is arguing the exact opposite” no she is not liar, otherwise you'd provided proof. No proof, no truth pretty poor sucking attempt.
    ”When we collect the intention of the writer from his words only, as they lie before us, this is a literal interpretation ... Close interpretation (interpretatio restricta) is adopted if just reasons, connected with the formation and character of the text induce us to take the words in their narrowest meaning. This species of interpretation has generally been called “literal,“ https ://dictionary.thelaw.com/interpretation/and ”Literal Construction, The interpretation of a document, law or statute based upon the strict and plain meaning of the words without regard to interpretation, motive or other evidence to explain the meaning other than the literal words themselves.” https://dictionary.thelaw.com/literal-construction/dictionary.thelaw.com/literal-construction/

    Jun 01st, 2020 - 11:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    Once again, for the intellectually challenged among us:

    “This discussion leads on to the third section in which I, via a presentation of an ethical standard for rhetorical argumentation, suggest how THE ARGUERS’ INTENTION REMAINS CENTRAL TO RHETORICAL INQUIRY.”

    Jun 01st, 2020 - 12:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    DemonTree the slavish follower aka The Appendage
    “she is arguing ... ” As long as it is a question of what people say or which speech act they perform, I agree that as a rule the rhetor’s personal intent is irrelevant to the critic’s interpretation. The same idea––that the intent to mislead is the decisive distinguishing factor between fair and unfair argumentation––is present in Aristotle’s Rhetoric when he points out that in the field of rhetoric some rhetors are guilty of ‘‘the deliberate choice [proairesis] [of specious arguments]’’ while others are not; by contrast, deliberate use of specious arguments mark out the arguer as a sophist rather than a dialectician (1355a, Kennedy’s translation, 1991, I.1.14.).”

    Jun 01st, 2020 - 02:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    It took him over 2 hours to reply... perhaps he actually read the paper this time. On the other hand all he's done is cherry picked a different two sentences that don't belong together.

    What do you think Charlotte Jørgensen is claiming in the paper, Terry? Do you agree with the pragmadialectical view of the critical relevancy of the arguers intention?

    Jun 01st, 2020 - 03:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    DemonTree

    I'm appreciative of your thoughtful culinary suggestion in accenting my haute cuisine with an authentic wood-smoke flavor. Madame would be appalled, but I actually enjoyed immensely the entire 15 ounce pièce de résistance gringo creation, which paired magnificently with a day old opened Cabernet.

    I sumptuously breakfasted this beautiful-clear-sky-morning with yesterday's Marraqueta bread toasted and fresh avocado. (I would have killed for a real coffee, but I'm temporarily self condemned to instant Nescafé here at the farmhouse.)

    You know, I actually mentally vividly see the photo I shared of the Canadian creature down below in it's mother's basement sitting before its computer — madly confused and outraged of its inability to intrepid Charlotte Jørgensen's pragmadialectical view of the critical relevancy of the arguers intention.

    Meanwhile, I think we should be all be appalled by the social unrest currently observed by the native inhabitants of the Americas (apparently in Florianópolis — and I assume erroneously misspelled as “Minneapolis”) that makes it's obvious that the oppressed and underprivileged natives are simply expressing what happens in undeveloped countries of the Americas — when they are denied lots and lots of free government handouts.

    I would imagine that Gollum assures this is actually happening in the Americas due to social inequality: https://youtu.be/vCHUhxGbIZw

    Many projects going on, but I'm blessed today with an experienced skillful crew pruning the vines and impressed with the diligent craftsmen at the farmhouse. Next week, we'll begin the installation of the kitchen cabinetry, which is being pre-constructed in San Felipe.

    Meanwhile, Madame and daughter have gone on a spending spree buying ski equipment and clothing online as many Chilean distributers are drastically liquidating their inventory. As you know, this normally occurs post season, but she's learned many retailers here are in severe financial bankruptcy.

    Jun 01st, 2020 - 04:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    DemonTree the slavish follower aka The Appendage
    “It took him over 2 hours to reply.“ all the more remarkable as I had prepared it following my last post.
    In a nutshell ”the rhetor’s personal intent is irrelevant to the critic’s interpretation” As it supports my contention, that claimant has no protection of mens rheas.
    Mean while, in the real world this is the quintessential rule of interpretation. ”When we collect the intention of the writer from his words only, as they lie before us, this is a literal interpretation ... Close interpretation (interpretatio restricta) is adopted if just reasons, connected with the formation and character of the text induce us to take the words in their narrowest meaning. This species of interpretation has generally been called “literal,“ https ://dictionary.thelaw.com/interpretation/and ”Literal Construction, The interpretation of a document, law or statute based upon the strict and plain meaning of the words without regard to interpretation, motive or other evidence to explain the meaning other than the literal words themselves.” https://dictionary.thelaw.com/literal-construction/dictionary.thelaw.com/literal-construction/

    Jun 01st, 2020 - 04:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    Looks like I was too generous in saying Terry might have read the paper. It's no surprise that someone who is usually so keen to give his opinion is unable to tell us whether he agrees with the pragma-dialectical view described in the paper. It would require him to understand what the paper is saying rather than merely quote-mine, plus he risks getting caught in a contradiction. It's a lot harder to win an argument when you don't begin by being right.

    Terry, since that was too hard for you, how about an easier question: does the speaker's intention ever matter? Yes or no?

    Chicureo
    It really is sad what is happening in America right now. Obviously this is a long standing issue and people are angry it is still continuing, there really are a lot of parallels with Latin America, with widespread inequality and distrust of the police.

    Jun 01st, 2020 - 05:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    DemonTree

    I'm currently sitting down on the farmhouse patio for my sumptuous banquet of three of the old lady's chicken empanadas and a Coke. Ideally, I would prefer inclement weather to increase snowpack in the Andes — which I can clearly see their majesty.

    The living-kitchen main rooms conjoined tile floor is completed and I'm very pleased. The only ugly part is where the kitchen island will be installed that has an octopus of cables emerging from the floor.

    Frankly, I was appalled with the senseless violence I shared with you on the video, but I was really disgusted by the brutal manslaughter I witnessed by the police officer in Minneapolis. It's confusing to many people to comprehend why the death was caused in a city controlled with a black police chief, a black Democrat party city council, a black city Democrat mayor and in a state with a Democrat governor.

    I would also note that although I recognize this type violence does in fact result in part to actual social justice, it's not exclusive to see this type of violence and chaos solely in South America. Obviously, it happens as well in North America and Europe.

    On a different thread, I've gone into an exaggerated bitch-slapping of Enrique Massot in the past 24 hours because of his continuous mendacious comments — and yet consistently remains silent about the crimes committed against humanity in Venezuela.

    I am blessed with three well educated Venezuelans permanently employed at the farm. They're highly qualified, and although they knew nothing about farming two years ago — have become critically important as they now understand the highly technical operations required. They are highly opinionated about Maduro...

    See the interpretatio species of the restricta quintessential creature amongst us:
    https://www.richmond.com/dating-in-richmond-grown-man-living-in-mom-s-basement/article_59675fe4-563c-11e4-ae7a-001a4bcf6878.html

    (If you close your eyes, you can the actually see the creature.)

    Cheers!

    Jun 01st, 2020 - 07:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    DemonTree the slavish follower aka The Appendage
    “It's a lot harder to win an argument when you don't begin by being right.” Exactly my point, what was that were saying about contradiction?
    “The rhetor’s personal intent is irrelevant to the critic’s interpretation” Which categorically denies the defence of intent to a rhetor. End of that story, in spite of your attempted sophistry.
    Mean while, in the real world this is the quintessential rule of interpretation. ”Literal Construction: The determination by a court of the meaning of the language of a document by an examination of only the actual words used in it, without any consideration of the intent of the parties”
    https ://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Literal+Construction
    literal construction: Interpretation of a document only on the basis of actual words and phrases used in it, and (unlike in liberal construction) without any extrapolation based on its deemed or stated purpose. Also called strict construction.
    www.businessdictionary.com/definition/literal-construction.html
    “Literal construction is an interpretation that takes into account only the literal words of a writing. It is also termed as strict construction or literal interpretation. A literal construction does not allow evidence extrapolated beyond the actual words of a phrase or document.”
    https://definitions.uslegal.com/l/literal-construction/
    “The plain meaning rule, also known as the literal rule, is one of ...”
    https ://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plain_meaning_rule
    So it is your insistence that words alone are not enough to condemn the actor. Even though it is shows that under accepted rule they are. Hmmm your personal opinion or opposite, supported by dozens of well qualified sites. Pretty obvious who has made their case, and who hasn't

    Jun 01st, 2020 - 08:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    Gollum, slimy basement-dweller, bug-ridden bot, truthless (nb : the two words are joined), brainless idiot...

    ““doesn't seem capable of deciding” both of your comments were personal”.....

    You’re damned right they were personal…Hey, idiot ! Yes, you....over here ! ….I’m speaking to you…I don’t need to prove what my impression of you is, to anyone, least of all to a slimy bug-ridden bot.... Just pure, infallible perception....

    ““she is arguing the exact opposite” no she is not liar, otherwise you'd provided proof. No proof, no truth pretty poor sucking attempt”…
    First, “no she is not liar” is incorrect....you need to put a comma between 'not' and 'liar'…otherwise, without a bit of tolerance for your shitty grammar, one might think you are saying she is not a liar...
    Second, 'otherwise you'd provided proof' ? to what avail ? you don't know what 'proof' is, in fact, you can’t tell your smelly ass from your elbow….there, another personal comment for you to digest.
    Third, you turd, we all know you are have a PhD in sucking, and other doll-related activities, so why don’t you tell us how you do it…after all, with all your practice on LDSilver…the other day you said someting about putting your lips around it....now carry-on.

    Just to close these 4 ½ minutes wasted on you, stop posting nonsense….no one deserves it…

    Jun 01st, 2020 - 09:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Jack — who merits too few titles of noblesse... and DemonTree — foolish slavish, subservient follower of two domineering females, especially la déspota pequeña that he has been unwittingly bewitched.

    (Two corrections: The Minneapolis mayor is a Judeo-Caucasian Democrat and city council is racially mixed.)

    I learned from Madame this evening all about the latest gossip from La Parva, Farellones and El Colorado. One interesting comment — Madame's friend, who was until recently — the romantic partner of the former owner of our new apartments in Viña and Valle Nevado. (Got that? Because it sounds confusing.)

    She's now working for Williamson Balfour Motors repossessing cars from customers that defaulted on their lease payments. She gained employment by working as an impromptu arbitrator of her (now ex) boyfriend's two BMWs vehicle repossessions, which impressed WBM to hire her full-time. (Alarmingly, it's a major assignment.)

    Her ex-boyfriend is of my generation, and was until 2020 a highly successful businessman — heavily invested in numerous commercial strip malls primarily in Santiago. His side business was partnering with restaurant lessee's in his malls taking a percentage of the tenants business. This formula was highly ingenious as well as profitable until this year. (We enjoyed two of the upscale restaurants and were treated with VIP status.)

    He's remarkably charming and likeable — the same culprit that convinced us to buy the new apartment in Viña, then his below ours ...and then...against all my protests the one in Valle Nevado. (Despite my business instincts, Madame was typically correct and I was wrong.)

    Unfortunately his personal life is a disaster. Not only he's lost his delightful and beautiful girlfriend, he's also reportedly paying altimony and child support supporting two former wives.

    The 1st rule of business is never run out of capital, also the 2nd and 3rd...

    Many mortgages are in default throughout Chile — Scary as Hell!

    Cheers!

    Jun 01st, 2020 - 10:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    Jack Bauer Proof less, Truth less, Psychological Transferee, & Nasty Pervert
    Little cuddle bunnies sophism's patented attempts to mask over your prior attempted dishonesties that were undone by the accepted judicial practises.
    Why the sudden disenchantment, it's not like everyone including yourself doesn't know the truth. While you are confirming the truth by spending all your time projecting your many and varied faults.
    ”Psychological Projection - Are You Making Everyone Else ..
    Jung connected psychological projection to his concept of ‘the shadow’. The shadow is the part of ourselves we refuse to identify with because we deem it as unacceptable and not ‘positive’.
    For Jung, projection happens when we are not able to accept our shadow and its gifts but would rather thing we are only comprised of ‘positive’ things, imposing a judgement system on ourselves we must maintain by forcing others to be the scapegoat for parts of ourselves.
    Melanie Klein, one of the founding figures of psychoanalytic theory who furthered Freud’s theories, pointed out that projection can also be not just about denying parts of ourselves but also about connecting ourselves to others in a way that allows us to feel we can acquire parts of what they have.
    https://www.harleytherapy.co.uk/counselling/psychological-projection-are-you-making-everyone-else-responsible.htm
    Just to remind you of your well deserved reputation as the biggest liar on this site.
    https://www.harleytherapy.co.uk/counselling/psychological-projection-are-you-making-everyone-else-responsible.htm
    https://www.harleytherapy.co.uk/counselling/psychological-projection-are-you-making-everyone-else-responsible.htm
    http://en. mercopress.com/2017/07/20/ex-brazilian-president-assets-and-bank-accounts-frozen/comments#comment471145
    http://en. mercopress.com/2018/03/20/lula-begins-tour-of-south-brazil-and-meets-mujica-but-it-was-a-bad-day-for-both-leaders/comments#comment485779

    Jun 01st, 2020 - 11:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    Chicureo – Most Noblessed Titled one.
    J.B – Close second, Noblessed Titled one.
    D.T. – Third most, Noblessed Titled one.

    I don’t know, I leave you lot alone for 5 minutes with the stultus sub terra, and look at him, gibbering like a complete Idiot and foaming at the mouth.

    I mean he’s fantasising about “protection of mens rears.”???

    Reduced to Copy/Paste almost at random, clearly no idea of what is being talked about.

    Perhaps we need to “dum it down” to a level the poor thing can cope with better, one/two syllable words no complicated concepts.

    Maybe we can help Tel Bot (Tel – London slang for anyone with the name Terry or Terence) to construct an original sentence, play some sort of word game, help him along, eh????

    Jun 02nd, 2020 - 12:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    Pugol-H
    “I mean he’s fantasising about” Sorry shorty don't play with words you don't have clue about.
    I understand your trying to currying favour with a couple fascists, if you want to up your game you're going to have a lot better to eclipse DT

    Jun 02nd, 2020 - 01:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    That’s better, short words, no long disjointed sentences, complicated concepts and not a copy paste in sight. Quite readable really, compared to your usual gibberish.

    One small “observation” you said:” you're going to have a lot better to eclipse DT”, you meant to say: you're going to have TO DO a lot better to eclipse DT.

    Always check what you have written before you post, eh, saves looking “UN-educated”.

    Otherwise, well done, now try and stay focused don’t overreach or try to get too creative.

    Oh, I never was going to “beat” any of the “most Noblessed Titled ones”.

    However I did think:

    “servile, subservient, fawning, obsequious, sycophantic, excessively deferential, toadying, ingratiating, unctuous, grovelling, cringing, toadyish, sycophantish, abject, craven, humble, Uriah Heepish, self-abasing; informal slimy, bootlicking, sucky, soapy, forelock-tugging, brown-nosing, apple-polishing, arse-licking, bum-sucking; kiss-ass, ass-kissing, suckholing, unoriginal, uninspired, unimaginative, uninventive, non-innovative, imitative, derivative, creeping Jesus.”

    Wasn’t a bad start, that’s an awful lot of titles is one go, must be a record, hope it didn’t over heat your little circuit boards, copy and pasting all that.

    Although not the coveted title, order of the “Psychological Transferee” I note, tut, tut.

    Maybe next time.

    Jun 02nd, 2020 - 02:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    Pugol-H
    I guess its tough when you're the fourth man on a three man tag team. But, you're in the right place along with two revealed fascists and they're ally. But, that doesn't matter to you as you are unable to stand up on your own.
    JB “Your insistence that I'm a fascist”
    Brazil's corruption scandals reach Lula da Silva: ...
    12 Jack Bauer; “..'Military dictatorship', ..history is showing,.. that it was good for Brazil
    50 Jack Bauer; “Military taking over again, ….. they did it to prevent Brazil from being handed over to the communists. ... the Military , I hope, would be there again to save Brazil
    http://en .mercopress.com/2015/01/26/brazil-supportive-of-mercosur-as-long-as-it-does-not-turn-into-a-burden/comments#comment378210
    Brazil remembers the 50th anniversary of the coupe…
    15 Jack Bauer; “..Am pretty sure that military are accompanying all this … I hope they DO take over...”
    Chicureo “Although I've defended Pinochet despite his regrettable actions”

    Jun 02nd, 2020 - 04:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    Chicureo
    What I don't understand is how anyone can think what the police are doing is okay, or that riots and arson is a reasonable response. And now they are attacking journalists. It's enough to make anyone scared for the future.

    Pugol-H
    There's no way to dumb things down enough for Terry to understand. His comments are the scribblings of an idiot, full of bile and blather, signifying nothing.

    Jun 02nd, 2020 - 05:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    Pugol H
    The Terryfic idiot has no idea what he's talking about......

    ”I mean he’s fantasising about “protection of mens rears.”???

    I really don't know what his sick mind fantasizes about, but one thing he definitely does not need to (fantasize about), is bouncing up and down on top of Long Dong...and, with a wee dollop of KY to avoid chafing.

    Gollum, with his slimy, bald head, reminds me of skinheads....skinheads remind me of the Nazis....and they in turn remind me of Gollum.....because, to think of it, they have a lot in common....didn't the nazis, when in Nuremberg, allege they weren't responsible for their acts, that they were just following orders ? well, with Tel-Bot it's just the same.......he makes (a lot of) mistakes, he posts fake news, and when caught red-handed, he claims it's the author's fault, that he just copied what they wrote.
    A few examples : “Gen.Mourão served in Haiti”, “Mourão was Gen. Heleno's boss”,
    “Bolsonaro's wife was weak” (that's why she gave him a daughter, not another son), and of course, can't forget his obsession with Brazilian toilets....it's never his fault....after all, he is not only a useful idiot, he's the 'perfect' idiot.

    Immediately above, he refers to my opinions, as if they were lies.....funny, I always thought that an opinion reflected what one thought about something, which may be right, or wrong....but not a lie. Ah, and an opinion does not need to be proved.

    But he must hold me in high regard - which does not flatter me at all - because it appears he carefully files everything I've written on here...he reads and re-reads my comments, gets a warm feeling in his rear, and then proceeds to bounce up & down on top of LDS..

    That's why he posts so much of 'other' people's stuff...it's his M.O.

    Calling you the 'fourth man on three-man tag team', pretty much sizes HIM up....excluded from all social activity and locked up in his smelly basement.
    Sorry, don't think that feeble insult constitutes a 'title'.

    Jun 02nd, 2020 - 06:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Pugol-H

    I just picked up lunch and the local rural gossip from the old lady who bakes in a mud oven. The day is overcast and noticeably cooler.

    My old English professor would disagree, but I find it a astounding miracle — that the creature has somehow composed three legible consecutive sentences apparently by itself. If true, this post we're witnessing is actual proof of the famous Infinite Monkey Theorem...

    1. “I guess its tough when you're the fourth man on a three man tag team.”

    2. “But, you're in the right place along with two revealed fascists and they're ally.”

    3. “But, that doesn't matter to you as you are unable to stand up on your own.”

    I nearly spilled my gourmand instant Nescafé in surprise when I read the above — and haven't been as delighted since long ago, when Madame taught our Dachshund — to lay down and rollover in order to be recognized with a treat.

    ...but then again, our Dackel has a clearly superior brain.

    Events in 2020 is proving we are living in amazing times...

    Jun 02nd, 2020 - 06:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    Chicureo
    It's when he goes off script - and depends on only his pea-sized brain to say something intelligible - that he get's into trouble.....too much confusion for a lone pea...

    Jun 02nd, 2020 - 06:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    Three original sentences and he only managed one without a mistake. Explains why he prefers to copy the words and ideas of others.

    But it would not be such a problem if he were merely stupid. Somehow all his mistakes and bizarre misunderstandings serve to benefit himself, and he understands well enough to dodge any questions that would demonstrate his contradictions and hypocrisy. Add that to his potty mouth and we have an unedifying portrait.

    Jun 02nd, 2020 - 07:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Photograph that the Infinite Monkey Theorem creature is amongst us:
    https://www.richmond.com/dating-in-richmond-grown-man-living-in-mom-s-basement/article_59675fe4-563c-11e4-ae7a-001a4bcf6878.html

    As far as what's happening in the USA, this 2020 year is looking like a combination of factors all happening today could cause an economic collapse in my primary export market.

    I just read a report from an avocado advisory association that is predicting a large percentage of American restaurants will be bankrupted and the tradional food service chain will be permanently changed. Supermarket sales continue to increase, but if the USA goes into a severe economic recession — consumers will economize in their purchases.

    A severe economic recession in the USA could trigger a similar ressesion in Europe and Japan. China already is in one. This obviously will hit hard Latin America!

    I should consider reconsider my spending spree, but I'm sticking with the SAS motto of Who Dares Wins...

    A lot of people I know are now in financial default and many are facing receivership.

    There are large CA coldstorages in Chile, filled with apples that were originally destined for export and have lost their markets. The growers are screwed.

    Jun 02nd, 2020 - 08:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    Chicureo

    “I just read a report from an avocado advisory association that is predicting a large percentage of American restaurants will be bankrupted and the tradional food service chain will be permanently changed”...

    Perhaps you're right, but why would “changed” necessarily mean that people will stop eating avocados.....no matter how it works, people have got to eat....and avocados aren't expensive (in supermarkets) ...at least not here.

    I had plane tickets and hotel reservations, all paid for, for a short vacation in NYC....21st May until today, when we'd be flying back....a disappointment, but had plenty of time to get used to the idea...on the good side, I'd be back here tomorrow, without the perspective of another future vacation to look forward to....but now, I can start planning again, to go when this crazy moment is over....not only regarding the virus, but the protests against George Floyd's absurd death.......just as well we had to stay here.
    The restaurants I usually go to in NYC are the top beef places (Palm, Smith & Wollensky, Peter Luger's, Morton's ) and the traditional Italian ones......drinking great wines......once they reopen, don't think it'll take long before they are full again....keeping fingers crossed.

    Jun 02nd, 2020 - 09:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    Falangists
    In the last seven posts you are unable to marshal even one single solitary fact. That refutes my contention that half of you are bona fide fascists.
    SOMA's, also states
    “ex silentio-lit. from silence. This refers to anything arrived at based on a lack of protestation or argument to the contrary. A theory, proof, assumption or conclusion based on a lack of contrary evidence. Commonly used in the expression argumentum ex silentio-proof from silence
    So now we all know who we are. Two fascists and two camp-followers.
    ”The sounder your argument, the more satisfaction you get out of it.“ Howe, Edgar Watson
    ”Strong and bitter words indicate a weak cause.“ Hugo, Victor
    It is a maxim of equity that “The law respects form less than substance, equity looks at intent, not at form” ”The law does not concern itself with trifles“.
    ”It used to be we thought that people who went around correcting other people's grammar were just plain annoying. Now there's evidence they are actually ill, suffering from a type of obsessive-compulsive disorder/oppositional defiant disorder (OCD/ODD). Researchers are calling it Grammatical Pedantry Syndrome, or GPS.“ illinois.edu/blog/view/25/76120
    “Grammar Pedantry Syndrome” is a form of OCD in which sufferers need to correct every grammatical error.” twitter.com/uberfacts/status/218151002707206145
    “A pedant is a person who is excessively concerned with formalism, accuracy, ... Asperger syndrome often have behaviour characterized by pedantic speech.” en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedant
    Your bogus legal connotations that your buddy could claim criminal standard of protection of 'intent' for his words. Is blown out of the water by the legal definition of his words.
    So other than personal attacks, you cannot counter any of my supported assertions. All you proffer is your humble opinions.
    Opinions are like buts everyones got one. Just some stink more than others.

    Jun 02nd, 2020 - 10:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Jack Bauer

    Good question and I appreciate your optimistic view. Avocados are healthily delicious and have been trending this year with increased sales, as I recently shared. (One expected drop in avocado sales, was a 93% in food-service/restaurants.)

    However there is a growing ominous feeling that we may be falling into a deep financial crisis. Sort of an economic domino effect that financially changes the entire world.

    Currently Chilean exporters of wine and fruit, that have had enormous success in the Chinese market — are facing a horrendous drop in sales. (As you know, China is by-far-our largest market for copper, which we continue to mine and smelter, but remains unsold.)

    You torture me mentioning The Palm, Smith & Wollensky, Peter Luger's, Morton's of Chicago and I would add Ruth's Chris — The only complaint I have with those hallowed temples is their outrageously overpriced wine lists.

    I have no doubt, even the owners may go into default — new ownership will carry-forth those brands. (The Palm has just re-emerged from receivership last year.) However, a frighteningly large number of the other major and individual restaurant companies are facing complete ruin.

    Imagine the despair of weathering a forced shutdown and then just as reopening seeing your establishment destroyed. Certainly, insurance and financing will help them recover, but for many it's a coup de grâce.

    I'm well into a reliably great '05 Santa Rita Casa Real Merlot and trying to decide whether conversing with an alleged Grammatical Pedantry Syndrome fellow connoisseur of fine wine and bife allows us both a premium status in exalted titles.

    I pity both Pugol-H and DemonTree might feel jealous and thus increase the status inequality which can result in social unrest. We are seeing too much of that unfortunately in the USA.

    All jesting aside, it deeply saddens me about the senseless homicide of an African-American and I understand the anger, but frankly it has gotten-far-out-of-hand!

    Jun 02nd, 2020 - 11:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    Chicureo
    Yes, I thought for a moment there we saw a definite improvement, consecutive legible sentences, albeit as DT noted only one was actually correct.

    Then the red mist descends and Copy/Paste Bot goes into overdrive, pasting nonsense, unrelated rubbish claimed as “irrefutable proof”, no less.

    Not in the real world. An amusing idiot none the less.

    “Grammatical Pedantry Syndrome fellow”, YET AGAIN, titles are handed out to the S. American contingent while the Brit and Nigerian get nothing!!!!!!

    Clear and obvious case of discrimination against Non Western Hemispherians.

    Lucky you’re both in S. America not north, or he would probably be wanting some “back scratching”, quid pro quo, for such honours.

    JB
    Yes, you’re right, at best a feeble attempt at an insult, no ennoblement there.

    Jun 03rd, 2020 - 04:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    Pugol-H
    “Yes, I thought for a moment” thats all there is, is you opining.
    Opinions are like buts everyones got one. Just some stink more than others.

    Jun 03rd, 2020 - 05:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    Tel Bot
    You have copy/pasted that statement many, many times before.

    It just doesn’t get any better for repetition ad tedium, ad nauseam, ad infinitum.

    It may seem to you as a witty comment worthy of endless repeats, it doesn’t to the rest of the world, I have to tell you.

    Once again there is a serious disconnect between your view of yourself and everyone else’s view of you.

    Maybe some counselling????? Might help, you never know until you try

    Meantime with a bit more effort even you should be able to come up with something vaguely more original than that, so put down your dolls, paper and pencil at the ready, let’s see what you can come up with for marks out of 10 for effort and achievement.

    Off you go. I await the results with baited breath.

    Jun 03rd, 2020 - 05:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    Chicureo, Pugol, DT..
    Hey guys, are we going to stand for this ? We have all been demoted....we lost our titles and were somewhat humiliatingly, all thrown under 'one' name, 'Falangists'......I'm so depressed....what did we do to deserve this ??
    Is it because we criticized Terry's sexual activities with his dolls ? did he feel we were denying him his right to enjoyment and self-indulgence, no matter how obscene and disgusting ?

    ““ex silentio-lit. from silence.”...it's clear that he loves to copy arguments based on contradictory concepts, which he does not understand, as becomes obvious when two or three posts later, he denies having used them...it's always someone else's fault...the classic “Lula” defence....(“it's not mine....it belongs to a good friend of mine”)
    Looks like now the bot is being somewhat erratic....it's sentences are mixed up and contraDICKtory.
    After reading the first two lines, you know that the rest in just going dung-hill, I mean downhill.

    Don't understand why he posts shit in Latin, then translates it - for whose benefit I don't know - even going to the stupidity of explaining what it means - which we all know, without his pedantry - is it to give the false impression he is a scholar ? it's sad that only he doesn't realize he's pissing against the wind.

    Chicureo, I agree that their wine list is overpriced...but a their NY sirloin strip is unbeatable (as are their other cuts)....medium-rare and juicy, with a small crust on the top...wines that sell for $45 to $60 in the good liquor stores, vary between $ 140 -$ 200/bottle.....

    The 1st Palm to open, nearly 100 yrs ago, on 2nd Ave # 837, closed about 5 years ago due to their decision to not accept an unreasonable hike in the rent...but the Palm Too, on the other side of the street (# 840), carried on. Last time I was there was end 2017....hope it's still open when I go next. These brand names are too valuable to go out of business.

    Pugol
    Well we are all falangists now... sniff, sniff.

    Jun 03rd, 2020 - 06:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    The Hon. Pugol-H

    I'm cheered as it it snowed last night in the Andes. Madame gave me an enthusiastic report and informed me that our daughter is interviewing today for a staff position with the resort! This somewhat disturbs me, because she's currently employed as our assistant farm manager.

    An Argentine naval colleague shared this morning, a video by David Vaughan Icke that reflects his opinion about this pandemic overreaction — and I'm also starting to question now as well: https://youtu.be/PsRfFiGC-FA

    (I also wish to take the his opportunity to profusely apologize for my clearly Americas' superiority over your African and Albion DemonTree's clearly inferior status'. This type of unjust status inequality — breaks the harmonious union which will in result in chaos as I saw occur last night in my privileged hemisphere.)

    Fellow America Native Falangist Jack

    I think everyone loves New York City and certainly we both adore their renowned steakhouses — that again you knowingly torture me by mentioning. However, the inept socially progressive mayor there is now very unpopular after last night's poorly restrained looting and violence.

    Did you see the how our underprivileged Americas natives are actively seeking social justice with progressive economic reparation? Last night in Manhattten, the natives were videoed using a US$350K Rolls-Royce Cullinan SUV to ransack high end stores.

    Now my 6 year old beat up Japanese discontinued SUV makes me feel really underprivileged... (I didn't even know RR made SUVs!)

    Jun 03rd, 2020 - 06:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    “That refutes my contention that half of you are bona fide fascists.”

    So, we're in agreement then. Argument over.

    Chicureo
    Is David Icke the guy who said 5G towers were spreading coronavirus? Didn't he also claim the Queen is an alien lizard or something?

    We have finally had some rain today, I'm sure the plants are grateful.

    Jun 03rd, 2020 - 08:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    Chicureo/ JB/DT
    Personally I’m going with Phalangeist, for a more Lebanese flavour.

    Perhaps the stultus sub terra has had a Che moment and is adopting a more egalitarian/communist approach, all men are now equal in the programming of Copy/Paste Bot.

    Viva revolution.

    Jun 03rd, 2020 - 08:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    Makes it sound like you support finger and toe bones.

    Re TerryBot, I think he translates the Latin because he doesn't know what it means, so he assumes no one else does either. Same with his dictionary definitions. He thinks everyone is as ignorant as him.

    Jun 03rd, 2020 - 09:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    Pugol-H
    “pasted that statement many, many times before.” While you have whined and opined, many, many times before.
    DemonTree the slavish follower aka The Appendage
    “So, we're in agreement then” that half of you are fascists and the other half camp-followers.

    Jun 03rd, 2020 - 09:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    Cellar-Dweller
    You said it refuted your contention, so you admit you are wrong.

    Jun 03rd, 2020 - 09:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    DemonTree

    Thanks for the observation. I'm also alarmed of one allegation that Icke made an antisemitic remark, and has been deplatformed in the UK. Not my cup of tea, but I don't believe unsubstantiated allegations either.

    Did he really refer to HRM as a lizard?

    Of 17 million here in Chile, we've surpassed 108K cases, with 3K confirm testing positive, but of the 1K total deaths, but so far it's estimated mortality rate has been far below than we were warned about.

    Madame tells me that there is even a bar/restaurant in La Parva where all the quicos gather, and other than loosely using a mask (dropped to their neck) are acting like there is no pandemic.

    Anyway, rain is wonderful for the plants and even changing the electrical ionization of the air. The only time I dislike the rain is during the late grape season.

    Pugol-H

    Actually I'm a notorious “Camp-Follower” of my Chileana-Catalan-Occitanie gypsy
    marieé enchanteresse that I normally follow her camp whenever I can...

    Speaking of Lebanon, I would die for some good Lebanese food right now...

    Jun 03rd, 2020 - 10:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    Chicureo
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-36339298/david-icke-on-9-11-and-lizards-in-buckingham-palace-theories

    I don't know if Icke has made any antisemitic remarks, but I do think this deplatforming thing has gone too far. Protesting someone being invited to speak is one thing, but trying to get them removed from all social media is anti free speech.

    Jun 03rd, 2020 - 10:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    DemonTree the slavish follower aka The Appendage
    “You said it refuted your contention” and you are committing fraud by omission, as here's what I actually said:
    “In the last seven posts you are unable to marshal even one single solitary fact. That refutes my contention” that half of you are bona fide fascists.
    No one can take advantage of his own wrong.“ ”No one should suffer by the act of another.“ ”He who takes the benefit must bear the burden.“ ”For every wrong there is a remedy.“ ”Between rights otherwise equal, the earliest is preferred.“ ”No man is responsible for that which no man can control.“ ”The law helps the vigilant, before those who sleep on their rights
    https://dictionary.law.com/Default.aspx?selected=1228

    Jun 03rd, 2020 - 10:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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