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Pirralha blasts Bolsonaro for failing to manage the coronavirus pandemic

Saturday, June 6th 2020 - 14:33 UTC
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Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro has failed in managing the coronavirus crisis, teenage climate activist Greta Thunberg said on Friday, a day after a record rise in deaths in the South American nation. Read full article

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  • Jack Bauer

    It's high time that the manipulated “pirralha” Grrretta Thunderbug was told to shut up and go back to school.....
    She think she is an expert in everything....climate, global warming, politics, medicine, law........reminds of another useless creature that rears its ugly head every now and again....even when not invited.

    Jun 06th, 2020 - 06:49 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • DemonTree

    Being ignorant and opinionated seems to be the chief qualification for success in politics these days. Sweden doesn't have a president, but perhaps she can become Prime Minister...

    Jun 06th, 2020 - 09:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Enrique Massot

    JB

    “It's high time that the manipulated “pirralha” Grrretta Thunderbug was told to shut up and go back to school.”

    How typical. JB will keep pestering, unable to see the signs of a better world that will eventually shape up, as it has in the past -- thanks to those who won't shut up.

    Jun 07th, 2020 - 02:39 am - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Think

    ... É ela a menina que vem e que passa
    Num doce balanço a caminho do mar
    Moça do corpo branco do sol de Estocolmo...

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qcf9Opdfmzw

    Jun 07th, 2020 - 08:48 am - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Terence Hill

    DemonTree the slavish follower aka The Appendage
    “ignorant and opinionated seems to be ...” You're certainly preaching what you practise.

    Jun 07th, 2020 - 12:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    EM
    There is a big difference between listening to highly qualified and recognized professionals in their respective fields, and listening to a poor manipulated twerp who doesn't know her arse from her elbow...
    At 15 she dropped out of school - great decision - and started her campaign in favour of the environment (just so you don't get the wrong idea - I have nothing against defending the environment, and a lot in favor of it) ;

    But of course, now, at 17, she is the expert on many complicated subjects.

    Reekie, you sound very optimistic about the world's future - “.......the signs of a better world that will eventually shape up, as it has in the past”.....“as it has in the past” ?
    When, exactly ? or are you referring to random (short) periods of economic progress, which have done little on a world scale, to “shape it up”
    And, if the world listens to a frustrated, misguided teenager, we are going nowhere, fast.

    Nevertheless, I'm interested in knowing what your crystal ball has to show us.

    Jun 07th, 2020 - 06:24 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • DemonTree

    You don't have to be an expert to inspire people. Plus it's funny to watch grown men and presidents getting triggered by a school girl.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIP2vukNOPc

    Jun 07th, 2020 - 09:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    :-)

    Jun 08th, 2020 - 06:15 am - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Jack Bauer

    DT
    You're right there.......no need to be an expert to inspire people.....now, to take advantage of the already strong movement against the destruction, is no no great feat, and those who worship the little twerp, as Reekie does, would be “inspired” by almost anything...

    Jun 08th, 2020 - 12:59 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Chicureo

    I still side with Bolsonaro, especially against ANY woman!

    There is no doubt in my mind today that men should never allow for feminine tyranny to influence important decisions. They are relentlessly malevolent to deviously force their evil agenda upon all men. Historically it was clearly a terrible mistake of our forefathers to have allowed them the vote.

    “A woman, a dog and a walnut tree —the harder you beat them, the better they be” Somehow that proverb has been misinterpreted by Madame Defarge as — un âne obéira comme un chien dressé si une femme le bat à plusieurs reprises avec un bâton... Evil, Mean and Effective...

    I'm somehow resigned that I'm still harnessed to the marital yoke. I'm an admitted coward...

    Instead of enjoying the beautiful solitude of the Aconcagua Valley, I'm currently sitting this cold morning in a waiting room at what is rated as the 2nd best clinic/hospital in Latin America. I just finished the first barrage of what is referenced as as a thorough complete examination. I still have another 5 hours of tests and and exams.

    I'm reading the list of all the tests, that my doctor has asked and note the evil bastard specifically has requested for a Carbohydrate-deficient Transferrin and Liver Function Testing — which is to utilize direct biomarkers to determine when someone who consumes as much wine as myself — may have liver problems. (My proverbial goose may me finally cooked... or should I say gander.)

    I feel Madame DeFarge has deviously used her harsh stick to beat me as a sacrificial jackass to the steps of la guillotine.

    Anyway, I'm looking for the damn thing to be over with!

    As I proclaim from my smartphone in this pristine modern dungeon of waiting: Trust no woman!

    Jun 08th, 2020 - 03:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    Greta is not even a woman yet....she's an ugly, spoiled brat......who will only realized she is a puppet when she grows a mind of her own.....

    Poor donkey....shouldn't have to be beaten all the time......don't they have the right to a bit of stubborness every now and again ?

    Good luck with your exams........Don't worry, wine can only improve all functions, including liver

    Don't blame Mme Defarge for everything....surely she has done a lot to be thankful for.....

    Jun 08th, 2020 - 07:38 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Terence Hill

    Chicureo the Advocator of the Avocado, Psychological Transferee, Narcissist, Criminal Libeller, & the Spam King
    “There is no doubt in my mind today that men should never allow for feminine tyranny to influence important decisions. ...
    I feel Madame DeFarge has deviously used her harsh stick to beat me as a sacrificial jackass to the steps of la guillotine. ...” Sounds an awful lot like the confession of an alcoholic hen-pecked man.

    Jun 08th, 2020 - 08:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Jack

    Thank you for your wise advice. There's obviously a valid medical argument, but those damn enzyme markers have me worried. As the legally registered sex offender creature does indeed identify my plight as a battered spouse.

    I'm really close to finishing here. I've had NO wine nor precious coffee in the past 24 hours as a part of the testing.

    I'm sure the subterranean asexual creature has numerous arguments with its inflatable bi-sexual inflatable dolls and yet remarkably assures us that — Plato justifies Socrates slander against opponents whether it's factual or not — and thus generously given us free license (using Gollum's illogical rhetoric) to de jure declare actus reus de facto inter alia ipso facto pro hac vice inter alia declaration that — the name “Terence Hill” can be found in an Internet query as a registered sex-offender in the Canadian Crown Court public records. (This allegation was formerly submitted — much earlier to the Mercopress staff for evaluation and it was allowed to remain stated without deletion or commentary.)

    The creature's words: “Since we don't know with an absolute certainty either way, and that I again have previously so indicated. While in the meantime, you are free to object to the authorship.”

    vincit omnia veritas

    Although I prefer, in vino veritas...

    Jun 08th, 2020 - 09:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    Chicureo the Advocator of the Avocado, Psychological Transferee, Narcissist, Criminal Libeller, & the Spam King
    “I've had NO wine ...” Your behaviour indicates otherwise as I have posted. “When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.” You're early, you usually don't get this brave until you've consumed your usual couple of bottles of plonk, I get it you're drinking earlier.

    Jun 08th, 2020 - 10:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Hmmmmmm...

    Anybody posting in here that has gotten just one (1) honour or award equivalent or similar to any of those many on the following list...?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greta_Thunberg#Honours_and_awards

    Jun 09th, 2020 - 02:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    Terry has a mug with his name on it. XD

    Jun 09th, 2020 - 09:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    DemonTree the slavish follower aka The Appendage
    Your observation is a breeze given your predisposition.

    mug
    2. a.2.a Comb.: mug-hunter
       1887 J. W. Horsley Jottings fr. Jail 95 An old mug-hunter, one, that is to say, of the wretched horde who haunt the street at midnight to rob drunken men. OED

    Jun 09th, 2020 - 02:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Breakfast this morning was marvelous toasted sourdough bread topped with smoked salmon, Philadelphia cream chees and the antithesis of instant Nescafé. We're back to the second honeymoon phase again.

    Recent reports published by the World Health Organization show that this recent pandemic has now been traced to the filthy living habits and lack of hygiene rampant that is commonly practiced by Wuhan China basement dwellers. “Dr. Sum Ting Wong, People's Health Enforcer of the WuHan prefecture — declared that the best solution was to use flamethrowers to burn the filthy scum to eliminate the sickness.”

    Science and common sense makes it perfectly clear that the virus is easily destroyed by intense exposure to sunlight and it thrives in the dark danknesses of subterranean lairs such like where dwells the subterranean asexual creature infecting this comments section.

    Any student of modern literature will enthusiastically remember that in the book and movie 'Fahrenheit 451' — which used flame-throwers to effectively cleanse their society and gives me a delightful vision of a Modernized Socially Correct Fire Department incinerating the subterranean vermin as it clutches its “Precious” Long Dong Silver and it's bisexual inflatable companion bursting into flame...

    ...However, that's simply my wistful imagination, but I do know for certain that after a careful and exhaustive scientific analysis of Sméagol's war trophy mug (which the entire analysis findings will be soon published in The Scientific American), proves the mug from the historic Cuban Missile Crisis is actually a stolen 1987 3rd place prize trophy from 'The Durham Cup Stakes' annual Thoroughbred horse race in Toronto.

    This is absolutely factual — and to again utilize the creature's assertion: “Since we don't know with an absolute certainty either way, and that I again have previously so indicated. While in the meantime, you are free to object to the authorship.”

    “The first lier always loses.”

    ¡Saludos!

    Jun 09th, 2020 - 04:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    Chicureo
    Well, let's see, who this morning, despite hating you, has gone to the bother of giving you their full attention...

    Gollum. Its enlightening comments in reply to your “I've had NO wine ...” =>“ Your behaviour indicates otherwise as I have posted”....and “When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser”...

    To be expected .....his air of superiority stands out when you get to “...as I have posted”....is that to make it sound important ? ...but ok, who gives a rat's arse what he posted ?

    This time he forgot to claim that the quote he incessantly repeats, “ad nauseam, ad tedium”, re the “tool of the slanderer”, belongs to Socrates....what happened ? did the penny finally drop ? And we all know what kind of “tool” the creature is into....I'll give a clue...something to do with 'Silver'...

    As to referring to your wine as 'plonk', just proves his sublime ignorance....I wonder what Ma Gollum throws down the chute for him to lap up ?
    Fact is, Terry does not HAVE a mug....he IS a mug.


    Stink : finally out of his whisky-induced coma down in Chubut, he asks who can boast ”just one (1) honour or award equivalent or similar to any of those many....” received by the climate brat....
    Lula, the 9-fingered toad can....he received titles of Doctor Honoris Causa, from several Latin American Universities, and obviously from all those that he altered the names of, re-inaugurated, then claimed to have created...(but that is another story).....and of course, from Universities in countries governed by his leftist buddies...
    So we can safely conclude that his titles, as well as little Greeheettta's honours or awards, or whatever you want to call them, in essence, mean nothing, zilch. Just birds of a feather praising their own crap.

    Jun 09th, 2020 - 04:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    Chicureo the Advocator of the Avocado, Psychological Transferee, Narcissist, Criminal Libeller, & the Spam King
    “The first lier always loses.” The proof of that is yourself, no proof no truth.
    Which is easily confirmed by“ you meeting your obligatory burden of proof. ”ei incumbit probatio, qui dicit, non qui negat (cum per rerum naturam factum negantis probation nulla sit)-the burden of proof lies upon him who affirms, not on him who denies, (since by the nature of things, he who denies a fact cannot produce any proof). The claimant is always bound to prove: the burden of proof lies on him. Upon the one alleging, not upon him denying, rests the duty of proving. Upon the plaintiff rests the proving or the burden of proof,“
    Soma's Dictionary of Latin Quotations, Maxims and Phrases: A Compendium of ...
    “Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy; States of Affairs; First published Tue Mar 27, 2012
    Philosophers connect sentences with various items, such as thoughts, facts and states of affairs. Which is easily confirmed by” you meeting your obligatory burden of proof. ”ei incumbit probatio, qui dicit, non qui negat (cum per rerum naturam factum negantis probation nulla sit)-the burden of proof lies upon him who affirms, not on him who denies, (since by the nature of things, he who denies a fact cannot produce any proof). The claimant is always bound to prove: the burden of proof lies on him. Upon the one alleging, not upon him denying, rests the duty of proving. Upon the plaintiff rests the proving or the burden of proof,“
    Soma's Dictionary of Latin Quotations, Maxims and Phrases: A Compendium of ...”
    Thus by failing in your obligation means what you must be a lie, since it can only be either true or false.

    Jun 09th, 2020 - 09:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    When you don't know what you mean, use big words. When you really don't know what you mean, use Latin.

    Jun 10th, 2020 - 12:40 am - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Chicureo

    Jack

    True or False what? I submit THREE alternatives to choose:

    What do you think our basement dwelling creature found objectionable? Was it the imagined 'Fahrenheit 451' flame-throwers effectively incinerating the subterranean vermin — as it clutches its “Precious” Long Dong Silver and it's bisexual inflatable companion bursting into flame?

    Or was it instead the exposé of Sméagol's “war mug” is actually a stolen 1987 3rd place prize trophy from 'The Durham Cup Stakes' annual Thoroughbred horse race in Toronto?

    Or maybe instead the reports of Dr. Sum Ting Wong, People's Health Enforcer of the WuHan prefecture — showing that this recent pandemic has now been traced to the filthy living habits and lack of hygiene rampant that is commonly practiced by Wuhan China basement dwellers?

    Gollum should pick one of the three offered for me considering retraction...

    I've pulled a cork of a satisfying “plonk” of '97 Concha y Toro of Casillero del Diablo Cabernet and attached is a video of myself after learning my enzyme results — with Madame's reaction. https://youtu.be/9BAEJyuReWQ (Actually, I'm unfortunately not as thin as I'm portrayed — but the woman is a dead-ringer for my partner.)

    ¡Saludos!

    Jun 10th, 2020 - 01:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    DemonTree the slavish follower aka The Appendage
    Doesn't matter how much you suck up to your reactionary buddy, he's condemned out of his own mouth “Humpty Dumpty ... and all the King's horses. ... ”
    “We must make a personal attack when there is no argumentative basis for our speech.” Cicero
    “The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is.” Winston Churchill

    Jun 10th, 2020 - 01:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    When you really really don't know what you mean, insult anyone who points it out.

    Which reactionary buddy? Do you mean Cicero or Churchill?

    Jun 10th, 2020 - 12:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    Which reactionary buddy?“ You're the one who responded to my post to Chicureo. Who has stated. ”Although I've defended Pinochet despite his regrettable actions“
    ”Pinochet's regime was responsible for various human rights abuses during its reign, including―but not limited to―forced disappearances, murder, and torture of political opponents. According to a government commission report that included testimony from more than 30,000 people, Pinochet's government killed at least 3,197 people and tortured ...”
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augusto_Pinochet
    But, I'm sure he appreciates your heart-felt support as a camp-follower.

    Jun 10th, 2020 - 01:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    Terry, even if Chicureo were to suddenly decide Pinochet was the biggest monster to ever disgrace the name of Chile, that would not change the fact you are an ignorant, pretentious, arrogant, smug, dishonest, idiotic asshole.

    You just don't want to face the fact I criticise you because of what YOU do and say, full stop.

    Jun 10th, 2020 - 02:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    DemonTree the slavish follower aka The Appendage
    Aha we are subject to your unproven opinion.
    “There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance.” Hippocrates
    “Opinions are like buts everyones got one. Just some stink more than others”
    “When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.”
    What ever faults I may have, pale in comparison to your unbridled support, of one who approves of crimes against humanity.

    Jun 10th, 2020 - 02:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    “What ever faults I may have, pale in comparison to your unbridled support, of one who approves of crimes against humanity.”

    And yet you love Thatcher, who was best buddies with Pinochet. Hypocritical as usual.

    Jun 10th, 2020 - 03:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    DemonTree

    Well, to be fair — I still do firmly stand with my prior statement about General Pinochet and despite his regrettable actions, his governance did save my country from a similar fate of Venezuela's current nightmare.

    History does show he left our country in a highly democratic governed and fiscally economically managed country. Despite the social inequality, our per capita income is the highest in Latin America. (Cite ONE better country on my continent.)

    Go ahead... please give me ONE EXAMPLE and I even include Uruguay, Inknow and greatly admire...

    Really a high level of education is what results in personal success in my country.

    As Mr. Hill has also been blessed with with a high level of education, I'm certain he'll agree, but again I would remind our colleague that some of us know the brutal grotesque fate Cicero incurred for his repetitive sarcasm. (I would describe it in detail, but I prefer not to ruin the civil discourse.)

    With that observation, I would suggest Mr. Hill direct his quotations away from the bitter and self-destructive rants of Cicero and contemplate instead of the more pleasant commentary in the English language:

    ‘what we have loved
    Others will love, and we will teach them how;
    Instruct them how the mind of man becomes
    A thousand times more beautiful than the earth
    On which he dwells, above this frame of things
    (Which, ‘mid all revolution in the hopes
    And fears of men, doth still remain unchanged)
    In beauty exalted, as it is itself
    Of quality and fabric more divine.’

    Jun 10th, 2020 - 03:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    DemonTree the slavish follower aka The Appendage
    Aha we are subject to your unproven opinion.
    “There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance.” Hippocrates
    “Opinions are like buts everyones got one. Just some stink more than others”
    “When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.”
    What ever faults I may have, pale in comparison to your unbridled support, of one who approves of crimes against humanity.

    Jun 10th, 2020 - 04:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Ahhh..., them Shiean women..., soo sweet..., soo different...

    The Pinoshetista tarada..:
    “Dale a tu Shile una renuncia Macarena
    Que tu renuncia es pa' darle alegría why cosa buena
    Dale a tu Shile una renuncia Macarena”
    Heyyyyyy Macarena…

    The humanista inteligente...:
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Gii0Y996SW8&t=2584s

    Jun 10th, 2020 - 04:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    Chicureo
    According to this site Uruguay has a higher per capita income than Chile :)

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/1066610/gross-national-income-per-capita-latin-america-caribbean/

    Some of the tax-evasion isles are even richer, but they don't count.

    Looks like Terry's programming is on the fritz again. He's probably busy googling what happened to Cicero, since it's obvious he doesn't know anything about him but copies and pastes his quotes from some compendium boasting you can 'Knock 'Em Dead, Win Your Point'.

    Jun 10th, 2020 - 05:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    DemonTree the slavish follower aka The Appendage
    “And yet you love Thatcher” I definitely know for sure she got it absolutely right over the Falklands.
    As for Pinochet, an absolutely classic strategy. “My enemies enemy, is my friend”
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_enemy_of_my_enemy_is_my_friend.
    The same principle as the allies embracing the USSR against the Axis'.
    Chicureo the Advocator of the Avocado, Psychological Transferee, Narcissist, Criminal Libeller, & the Spam King
    “History does show he” was an agent of the Nixon administration.
    As for Cicero, if you cannot refute what he said in the present context, everything else is your superfluous attempt to drag the issue, off topic.

    Jun 10th, 2020 - 06:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    Chicureo

    The basement “doll abuser” finds everything objectionable….to name only a few :
    The real world, of which he rarely gets a glimpse of…except thru his tiny, barred window. The slop his Mum pushes down the garbage chute.
    The fact his dolls fart when he squeezes them tight (he can bite LDS’s knob, no danger of it flying out the window).
    The truths on serious sites which contradict his false beliefs.
    That the 9-fingered toad is a convicted felon.
    That Mourão did not serve in Haiti, far less under Gen. Heleno.
    Criticism of his obsession with Latin phrases he himself does not know the meaning of.
    Our making fun of his silly, incessant quotes ‘ad nauseam, ad tedium’.
    That no one believes him.
    That his ‘mug’ is a cheap copy of the ‘real McCoy’, picked up by his Mum in a flea market. The fact he does not have a College degree.
    The fact that the RAF would not let him near the planes after testing him /concluding his IQ was, at best, compatible with lavatory cleaning.
    That not all Brazilian toilets are holes in the floor, or have plastic bins.
    The fact he can’t understand Portuguese.
    That we don’t accept his lame excuses, i.e., it’s the author’s fault.
    His forced solitary confinement, not only for his Mum’s sake, but the whole neighborhood’s. The slime that oozes out of his greasy pores and his bald head.
    And last but not least, how the name Gollum has ‘stuck’ to him.

    “There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance.” Hippocrates”....just another example of trying to sound smart...
    If Hippocrates knew that Gollum misused his saying, he’d be pissed off.
    So, according to Gollum, anyone with an opinion is ignorant.
    Ah, one more thing Gollum objects to : being correced - Ex: it’s ‘latter’, not later.


    By the sound of the laughter I’d say the enzyme results were nothing to worry about…which probably made Madame angry because now you’ll be able to continue consuming healthy antioxidants.

    Jun 10th, 2020 - 06:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    Gollum
    So in your opinion it's okay to aid and support someone who commits crimes against humanity as long as you have a common enemy?

    The leaders of the US thought the same when they had the CIA aid Pinochet and other Latin American dictators...

    JB
    That's quite a list, it's not a wonder Gollum is so hopping mad all the time.

    Jun 10th, 2020 - 06:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    DT
    Not “my” fault.......I just jotted down some of the things I have observed about the slimy creature.

    Wonder if Hippocrates would condemn me for having an opinion regarding the slimy beast ?

    Just to be fair, I'll name one thing Gollum does not object to....the support, however feeble, he receives from the Chubut turnip every now and again....in the short intervals between comas.

    Jun 10th, 2020 - 06:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Estimado THINK

    One thing I look forward to, as Pamela does also — the forced retirement of many of Chile's politicians. My country needs new ideas.

    DemonTree

    You are referring to 2018 statistics. Every morning by habit I check the exchange rate.
    https://www.exchangerates.org.uk/USD-CLP-exchange-rate-history.html

    You'll note the remarkable strengthening of the Chile Peso vs the US Dollar.
    If you do a similar analysis of the Uruguayan New Peso (UYU) exchange rate history and factor national per capita income, you'll note that Chile has surpassed Uruguay.

    I have great admiration for Uruguay and would argue they do enjoy a far larger percentage of their population pertaining to the middle class. (A few years ago, Argentina reined as first.)

    Of course Argentina was arguably the 5th wealthiest country in the world a century ago.

    Chile has prospered by having an independent central bank.

    Jack

    I should add to the above, Thanks to The Chicago Boys!

    Yes, I have a license to practice two of my more pleasurable pastimes. (Not my absolute favorites, by far — but life would change if wine and skiing were taken away.)

    Actually, Madame was not angry with me, as she needs a constant income stream to fund her grandiose farm kitchen aspirations. (It's become ridiculous now, but I've learned to allow her to do as she wishes.)

    Do you see the wine market in Brazil now offering large discounts? The market here has practacily collapsed.

    Finally, speaking of the exchange rate, it's good to see your Real is on the rise.

    We are however here in Latin America facing one of the worst economic resessions imaginable. If copper rebounds, it will be a recession, but overall we will suffer well into 2021.

    Jun 10th, 2020 - 07:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    Jack Bauer Proof less, Truth less, & Psychological Transferee
    “The real world, your aggressive, deranged rants” You mean like you in these:
    Unemployment in recession-hit Brazil… Oct 31, 2015 ... take you fairy dress off and start fondling your dolls.” “Rousseff pledges … put on your new dress, be gay and frolic, and you might even manage to get yourself reamed.”; “Unemployment in recession-hit Brazil …Nov 05th, 2015 - 05:19 pm. ..your inflatable dolls never complain when you can't get the wrinkes out of your limp noodle, is what gives you this impression... they just fart when you squeeze them..”: “Desperate for funds Jan 20th, 2016 - 03:12 pm ..why don't you pull Long-Dong Silver out of your closet”
    DemonTree the slavish follower aka The Appendage
    ”So in your opinion it's okay“ I never opined any such thing, I said it is what is done, it's called reality.
    Thats what they did to protect there's and the Islanders legal rights. Whereas, your quite prepared to ignore them and capitulate to Argentina's illegal claim.
    ”The leaders of the US thought the same ...“ No did they not, there was no legal or moral basis for their intervention, they did it because they could. ”There was a Harvard Review article published in the ’90s, which counted 44 US-backed coups in Latin America between 1898 and 1994.”

    Jun 10th, 2020 - 07:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Well since the creature seems to be leaving a trail of meaningless posts, I decided to share a delicious use for avocado oil:

    Avocado and Lemon Dressing

    * 1/4 cup avocado oil
    * 1/4 cup fresh lemon juice
    * 1/4 tsp lemon zest plus extra to taste
    * 2 TBSP plain dijon mustard
    * 2 cloves fresh minced garlic
    * 1/4 tsp dried oregano leaves
    * 1/4 tsp salt
    * 1/8 tsp freshly ground black pepper
    * A pinch of hot pepper flakes if you dare

    1. Depending on the size of the lemons you have handy, you'll either need 1 jumbo lemon or 2 regular lemons to yield 1/4 cup of lemon juice for this dressing. Before juicing your lemons, zest 1 lemon into a small bowl and set aside.

    2. Add dressing ingredients to a glass jar and tightly cap with the lid. Shake well

    3. Juice your lemons and add to a small/medium mason jar. Start by adding 1/4 tsp of zest and half your minced garlic, as you can add extra after taste-testing.

    4. Next add remaining dressing ingredients and close lid tightly. Shake to emulsify the dressing.

    5. Give it a taste and, if desired, feel free to add remaining clove of garlic (We go with the full amount) and any additional lemon zest or seasoning you may like. Since the dressing is on the tart side you may sweeten the dressing with sugar/honey/agave/etc... if preferred. 

    6. Leftover dressing can be stored in the refrigerator for several days, making it a great make-ahead option for the week!



    We love olive oil and good quality wine vinegar is wonderful to use, but the above is really a favorite as it does not distort an accompanying wine selection and we have fresh year round lemons.

    ¡SALUD!

    Jun 10th, 2020 - 08:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    TWIMC...

    The confessed Anglo-Argie-Brasilian baby killer sympathizer ..., turnip Jack Bauer writes above...:
    ***”Just to be fair, I'll name one thing Gollum does not object to... the support, however feeble, he receives from the Chubut (xxxxxx) every now and again...“***

    WHAT ”FEEBLE” SUPPORT...???..., I ask...
    Mr. Terence Hill does always enjoys my full & irrestricted support...!!!
    He is..., by far..., the best sock puppet I have ever been accused of creating... :-)))

    Cogitesne...?

    Jun 10th, 2020 - 09:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    Chicureo
    Shows the pitfalls of comparing income (and GDP) between countries when exchange rates can make such a difference.

    This video showing the top 20 countries by GDP from 1800 - 2040 may interest you:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-2nqd6-ZXg

    Shows the rise and fall of Argentina,as well as China's insanely fast growth in the last couple of decades. Also, I spotted at 1:36, Uruguay briefly has the 3rd highest GDP per capita in the world.

    Gollum
    Nice trying to have it both ways. Interfering in other countries is what is done, it's called reality. Obviously you only care about morals when it suits you, the same way you only care about evidence, fallacies, and the law when it suits you.

    And you never care about the truth at all. Stop lying that I'm 'prepared to capitulate to Argentina's illegal claim'.

    Your lies, evasions, hypocrisy and unprovoked insults are the reason I have such a low opinion of you, don't delude yourself otherwise.

    Jun 10th, 2020 - 09:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    By the way..., Shicureo...

    It may very well be that Shile has the World higest per capita consumption of marraqueta con palta...

    But..., what good does it make to them 19 million rotos Shilenos if those precious pancitos palteados are all consumed by them six members of the Shicuréo family... (I included Werner the Wiener)...???

    Thats why..., one generally uses something like the “Gini Coefficient” when trying to find out which Countries are best at distributing them tasty marraquetas con palta to the whole of their population..., not just to a select group of their Cuico population...

    https://www.indexmundi.com/facts/indicators/SI.POV.GINI/rankings

    Cogitesne...?

    Jun 10th, 2020 - 10:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    DemonTree the slavish follower aka The Appendage
    I remember you, you may not have used the word capitulation. But, your words caused me to form the opinion that would sell them out, at the drop of a hat. Your justification was they were a relic of history, and were not worth the trouble.
    “you're the reason I have such a low opinion of you,” Thank God, I get all that necessary elements right. Your own less than stellar character, is driven by petty immature and emotional responses. So I will consider my myself extremely blessed, if I'm considered the source of your disquiet, as your own behavior richly deserves it.

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  • Chicureo

    DemonTree

    I enjoyed the video link. They are fascinating to watch and remarkable from a historical perspective. I vividly remember the collapse of the Argentine currency in 1989 and amazed when Menem pegged 1 Peso to 1 Dollar.

    Chile suffered a similar upside-down economic fantasies during both the Allende and Pinochet mismanagements of our currency. That's why I respect how our democracy since 1990 has respected the independence of our Central Bank — solidified in the '80s.

    Estimado THINK

    Jack is mistaken as the creature-sockpuppet is far below your intellectual dignity.

    As I've agreed several times, the economic disparity in my country is problematic. I also remember mentioning that the social unrest and riots early this year — would result with more of a disparity of economic classes. (I stated during the riots that the more fortunate segment would achieve greater wealth; and the lesser fortunate class would suffer greatly.)

    What was unpredictable was a pandemic, and few anticipated the consequences.

    Our small family farm has experienced 3 hard historical freezes during my lifetime — resulting in the entire loss of harvest. As I've been lately busily splurging on some property purchases — I've also remembered the possibility of catastrophic harvest loss, and yet the numbers still remain far on our side.

    This is a rare economic curiosity, because normally the agricultural sector typically suffers the worst during crisis — yet in our particular case we are seeing the most profitable family earnings ever. (Assuming no catastrophic freeze.)

    And yes, we're serendipitously seizing the current opportunities, as a result of this current economic collapse of many formally highly successful people — because “licensed piracy” does allow it. (I've been on the opposite side of the equation as well.)

    Unfortunately, people I know personally are now facing complete financial ruin. Campesinos in the Aconcagua Valley are especially hard hit in their earnings.

    Jun 11th, 2020 - 12:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Shicureo...

    - What you are trying to tell us..., in your own compassionate way..., is that the Shilean state..., with his high per capita income is doing a very..., very lousy job at distributing them tasty marraquetas con palta to the whole of its population..., not just to a select group of their Cuico population..., right...?

    As the Gini Index linked below clearly shows..., lousier than Ecuador..., Bolivia..., Perú..., Argentina or Uruguay..., down here in our nick of the woods...:
    https://www.indexmundi.com/facts/indicators/SI.POV.GINI/rankings

    Jun 11th, 2020 - 01:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Estimado THINK

    To borrow a metaphor: Yes, THE SUM OF ALL EVILS!

    Our wise democratic government, urged by idealist progressives guided our country to discourage foreign investment in increasing taxes on investment profits and embark upon moving our energy production to wind and solar.

    Also, in an altruistic gesture — to bring in a Boeing 767 of unskilled Hatian immigrants, each day — resulting in floodinding the unskilled labor pool already heavily populated by our Latino cousins from Peru, Colombia and Venezuela.

    That new clean green energy resulted in Chile having the highest electrical costs on the continent. Those increases were directly borne by our populace.

    All those new unskilled workers resulted in depressing wages and higher unemployment and people became very unhappy.

    Those new taxes resulted in less new building projects and less new business ventures... (I have a friend that in reaction to the tax changes, heavily invested in new table grape vineyards in Piura Peru because of the incentives given him there were better than Chile. There are also now Chilean avocado growers invested there for the same reason.)

    I said during the riots earlier this year: Higher taxes will result for the ABC1 income sector.

    We already knew that the unrest would result in an economic downturn, but the pandemic is a tremendous kick in the gut for everyone.

    Somehow, and by pure luck, our family will prosper well during this storm.

    Simple economics: Exporter grower costs are largely in pesos. Labor is plentiful. Earnings are mostly in dollars. Obviously taxes will increase. The net result is highly profitable.

    Of course, in Argentina — they complicate the equation and results are those like a paragraph from 'Alice in Wonderland'

    Who can predict the future? Révolution, labor strikes, earthquakes, droughts, poisoned grapes (remember that episode?), Argentine medfly infestations, plant-diseases, hard-deep-spring-freezes and pandemics... Or something...

    Jun 11th, 2020 - 02:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Shicureo...

    - Are you trying to tell us..., in your own compassionate way..., that the Shilean state distributing them tasty marraquetas con palta to just a select group of their Cuico population..., makes you unhappy...?

    Jun 11th, 2020 - 03:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Estimado THINK

    Those quico plata loving customers of mine only enrich the pockets of Jumbo supermarkets and all the other domestic distribution chains here. I however am thankful that I do reside in a country with the highest per capita consumption of my fruit in the world. There are times, when the demand is so great — Chile actually imports avocados from Peru. (Curiously, Chile has perhaps the highest per capita consumption as well — higher than Germany and certainly higher than France.)

    The problem is that growers receive a small percentage of the domestically marketed profits. We suffer a similar circumstance with our few remaining wine-grapes.

    However, as we actively participate in the export marketing of our avocados and table-grapes — the circumstances radically change. Unlike your government — our's here generously does not tax exports and only collects taxes only from returned earned income.

    As you know, last year I over-invested in security. Some of my neighbors thought I was foolish. This year, I promised (in writing) everyone employed by our family that their income was guaranteed for this year, and assured those under medical leave would still receive 100% of their earnings. (Several of my competitors were pissed off with me at the time and again thought I was foolish.)

    There's a wonderful metaphor in English literature for fools surviving disaster...

    Why am I writing this in the middle of the day in Chicureo instead of supervising the vineyard pruning in the Valley you might wonder...

    ...it's because I'm still awaiting for Madame DeFarge to make a absolute definitive decision about the problematic farm kitchen and bathrooms final installations. The shoe is upon her petite foot for a change... (...and I'm an admitted coward...)

    The wondrously simple, but elegant midday meal is about to be served.

    ¡Saludos!

    Jun 11th, 2020 - 05:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Hmmmmm...

    In short then..., you are NOT unhappy with the fact that the Shilean state is distributing them tasty marraquetas con palta to just a select group of their Cuico population...

    Btw.., you say above...:
    - ***“Unlike the Argentinean government — the Shilean government generously does not tax exports and only collects taxes from returned earned income....”***..., my hermanito says...

    Well..., that's the way it was once done in Argentina too..., hermanito...
    - Problem was that after the Cuico exporters accountants finished deducting the new, bigger appartment at the ocean shore as a company's customers guesthouse..., the new, bigger appartment in a mountain ski ressort as a company's employees holiday home..., their missus'es new La Cornue toy as an imprescindible company's heavy production machinery investment..., etc..., etc..., etc... there wasn't any monies left to collect any taxes...

    Me explico...?

    Jun 11th, 2020 - 08:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Estimado THINK

    As I mentioned before, Chile has some truly vicious accountant inspectors working for our SII and the penalties are ruinous. “Greedy devious hogs get slaughtered ”

    (Correction: Obviously Mexico has the highest per capita consumption of avocados, and Chile is second. Chile does have the highest consumption of bread in Latin America.)

    The fragrant smell of Madam's preparation of today's délicieux déjeuner on this cool overcast day was highly distracting from factually writing reality. Same thing happens after half a bottle of a good red...

    The current palta consumer price here is about CLP 3.000 per kilo (or about USD 3.90) Cuicos in el barrio alto pay around CLP 4.000, which is fine for the retailer who typically takes well over a 50% cut.

    If the avocado industry had to market its entire crop domestically, obviously the market would collapse — as would our wine and the plethora of fine delicious types of fruit Chile has the ideal climate to produce.

    The current globalist quagmire we are experiencing today where radicals are trying to re-enact 'Lord of the Flies' — 'Animal Farm' — 'The Brave New World' using Alinsky's 'Rules for Radicals' and it will simply result in just more chaos.

    I find it ironic that the mega-billionaires are funding part of the current upheaval in the USA. (Parts of Minneapolis look exactly like Mogadishu and downtown Seattle has become as lawless as Aleppo.)

    Getting back to my premise about the importance of an independent central bank and fiscally responsible spending by the government, I add this for those who understand Argentine economic history. (Tarquin Fin posted this on another thread that I found very entertaining): https://www.clarin.com/politica/argentina-cambia-monologos-tato-dilemas-hoy_0_YDR5wurQp.html

    Jun 11th, 2020 - 09:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    Chicureo

    Afaic, the Chicago Boys have nailed it more times than not. I am not a fan of the Keynesian approach, too close to socialism for my liking.

    Over the last 03 years the local wine market’s been suffering….1st, as a result of the PTs 2014/18 crisis, which showed signs of recovery in 2019….now, with the virus, “almost” back to square one.
    “Almost” because although jobs have been lost, GDP has dropped, the government’s emergency handouts (to 1/3 of the population), should make the eventual recovery quicker after things get back to the “new normal”.

    Have a good friend who imports wine (fm AUS, NZL, ARG, CHI, SAF), ‘n she confirms it. Every special day, or event is an opportunity to have a sale.

    The more crap I read of Stink’s, the more certain I am that he is Gollum’s first cousin….d’you notice how he too, loves repeating the same old shit, even though it’s only his opinion without any “real” foundation ? he interprets and puts his twist on what others write, and that is that ! ....carved in stone.

    Th4, I take back the “feeble” support” ; despite his support being pretty insignificant, I need to admit that Stink does give his wholehearted best to please Gollum. Wonder why he ‘redacted’ my post, leaving out the ‘turnip’ (xxxxxx)? Was he offended, or did he think I was encroaching on his author’s rights ?
    And similarly to Gollum with his dolls, he has something weird going on with his sheep….capisce ?

    Meanwhile, Gollum revels in my praise of him – he repeats it, and as he does, he gets a warm sensation in the seat of his pants…only to wake up 'n discover he’s soiled himself.
    Why the R$ is strengthening against the USD right now, is uncertain….when you read about the confusing economic scenarios due to the virus, ‘n listen to specialists saying it could go below 5, or over 6, it’s anyone’s bet.

    DT
    Gollum’s “Thats what they did to protect there's and the Islanders legal rights”….just another mistake to add to the already extensive list.

    Jun 13th, 2020 - 10:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    Jack Bauer Proof less, Truth less, & Psychological Transferee
    “to protect there's and the Islanders legal rights”….just another mistake to add to the already extensive list.”
    Since you provide no evidence for your assertion, I take it that it's simply your opinion. In other words, you're simply tendering your worthless word. Just to remind you of your well deserved reputation as the biggest liar on this site.
    http://en.mercopress.com/2018/04/04/brazil-s-conundrum-army-chief-twits-good-citizens-repudiate-impunity-and-respect-the-constitution/comments#comment486481
    ”Whereas it’s a matter of public record that you in fact are proven liar. “… who try to associate fascism with conservatism” Theres no doubt as to what you are as your condemned out of your own mouth.
    JB “Your insistence that I'm a fascist”
    Brazil's corruption scandals reach Lula da Silva: ...
    12 Jack Bauer; “..'Military dictatorship', ..history is showing,.. that it was good for Brazil
    50 Jack Bauer; “Military taking over again, ….. they did it to prevent Brazil from being handed over to the communists. ... the Military , I hope, would be there again to save Brazil

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  • Chicureo

    Jack

    Regarding Think: Although he and I are politically opposite —there is no doubt in my mind that he is my intellectual superior and received a high level of education. He knows more about me that I thought searchable, including my retired rank. (I think it's shortsighted to compare him with our subterranean idiot.)

    Also, remarkably Gollum's views about the Falklands are mutual. (Proving a broken clock is correct twice a day.)

    I'm obviously a major fan of Milton Friedman although I'm appreciative of fair free trade. (On the Argentine threads I've been bitch-slapping Massot.)

    A vey good friend of mine in the winery business told me that distributers are liquidating stock below cost just to generate cash flow. Many businesses are completely insolvent, and they are cannibalizing themselves to just stay alive. (As you know, never run out of capital is the first rule of business.)

    I follow Rabobank RaboResearch, which their current economic outlook is frightening.

    I'm still convinced that if you have the ability — this is a window of opportunity that rarely becomes acailable. There are amazing opportunities for those not faint-hearted.

    I still cannot understand how volatile our American cousins have become — 2020 is a “Black Swan” in all aspects!

    Jun 14th, 2020 - 03:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    JB
    Gollum surprisingly likes to post to defend the Falklands staying British. Unfortunately he's as embarrassingly inept at it, as he is at everything else.

    Chicureo
    What do you think of this article? I'm guessing your grandchildren aren't going to public schools.

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/nov/13/why-is-inequality-booming-in-chile-blame-the-chicago-boys

    But even if their plans had worked, I'm not sure education alone could fix inequality. Even if more people are able to join the higher earning group, that wouldn't raise wages for those who don't.

    Re America, if you can understand why people are protesting in Chile then you can understand why they are protesting in the US, no?

    Jun 14th, 2020 - 11:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    DemonTree the slavish follower aka The Appendage
    “he's as embarrassingly inept” You certainly are Ollie, my proven facts out-weigh your lame assed prejudicial opinion.
    “Opinions are like buts everyones got one. Just some stink more than others”
    “When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.”
    But, I'm sure your facist revealed cuddle buddy appreciates your effort on his behalf. But, such an attempt at least puts you on the same moral plane as him. Birds of a feather flock together.

    Jun 14th, 2020 - 11:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    Lol. Terry thinks calling him inept is morally equivalent to supporting dictators.

    Jun 14th, 2020 - 03:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    TelBot
    “The first lier always loses.”

    – Do they? Who said this?

    “Humpty Dumpty ... and all the King's horses. ... ”

    – Really, this is your irrefutable proof?

    “everything else is your superfluous attempt to drag the issue, off topic.”

    - And what do you call quoting irrelevant rubbish in Latin, not to mention Socrates, Cicero, Hippocrates, Churchill, Thatcher et vetera avunculus Tom cobley.

    Can you not see the ridicule you invite?

    Jun 14th, 2020 - 04:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    DemonTree the slavish follower aka The Appendage
    No, but interceding on behalf of a proven liar, who approves of a military dictatorship, when he gets revealed.
    So your's and JB's self-serving opinions, lack any tangible support.
    No proof, no truth, and since your moral compass points in the same direction as his, it says every thing about you.

    Jun 14th, 2020 - 04:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    Gollum
    The only thing I intercede on behalf of is logic and reason - to save it from your self-serving torture.

    Pugol-H
    He really doesn't see it. There's 5 people posting in this thread, of diverse views, who agree only in thinking Terry is an idiot. There's no argument so absurd that he won't espouse it, no contradiction so obvious that he can't ignore it. His weapons-grade obliviousness and unusual interests suggest some kind of medical condition to me.

    My views are most similar to those he professes (unluckily for me!) so he has to come up with another excuse for why I disagree with him. Hence him insisting I must be supporting someone or other whenever I point out his blatant errors of fact and logic. It's easier on his ego.

    Jun 14th, 2020 - 06:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    Pugol-H
    Here comes the fourth clone of the quad pirouetting back in again. Long on an unsupportable opinion, devoid of any proof.
    No proof, no truth.
    DemonTree the slavish follower aka The Appendage
    “who agree only in ...” It's very simple if what you is say true prove it. All I've seen posted is opining. So all the rules as pertains to what is 'true', should be disregarded on the basis your opinion, that vox populi reflects a greater truth. Horse feathers, that's absolute nonsense.

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  • Chicureo

    DemonTree

    You're correct about schools. In most of Latin America — a person is judged by his specific family and school attended. In Chile — you retain your father's and mother's surnames. (Also, women do not change their surname after marrying.)

    There are three highly rated outstanding public schools in Chile, of which the Instituto Nacional is famous — but our society here is different than most other countries.

    As far as economic progress, “a rising tide raises all boats” is complicated by the enthusiastic immigration policies of a well meaning president — that has flooded my country with a large influx of unskilled workers. This has been terrible for average income wages of the lower income classes, but sadly excellent for employers utilizing seasonal laborers.

    Regarding the USA it's amazing that the cities facing wide scale unrest are controlled by Democrat party state governors, mayors and even their city counselers.

    I was appalled watching the video of the brutal killing of Floyd. But things have gone too far. (They are even demanding a statue of Gandhi be taken down.)

    Jun 14th, 2020 - 08:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    “you retain your father's and mother's surnames”

    Seems fairer than our system, and much easier for women not to change their names; I remember friends complaining about having to change all their documents after getting married, and it makes it much harder to find old school friends eg on Facebook.

    But judging people based on their family and school... the vast majority don't come from a famous family, or have the chance to go to a well-regarded school. That's only possible if you're part of some kind of Latin American aristocracy and only consider other members of it as worth judging.

    “Regarding the USA it's amazing that the cities facing wide scale unrest are controlled by Democrat party state governors, mayors and even their city counselers.”

    Nah, it's normal. Cities with a large population of minorities are more likely to elect Democrats and also more likely to have large BLM protests and suffer unrest. But I agree things have gone to far. Lots of people are protesting peacefully but others are just looking for a chance to cause trouble and smash shit, or steal. It's a depressing insight on human nature.

    Jun 14th, 2020 - 08:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    Dear Gollum
    You, aka Gollum : “to protect there's and the Islanders legal rights”….

    JB : 'just another mistake to add to the already extensive list.'

    Gollum : ”Since you provide no evidence for your assertion, I take it that it's simply your opinion.”

    No, not simply my opinion ...nor an 'opinion'.....You're so bloody ignorant, you don't even know you pissed out the pot.......a complete waste of time, but allow me to show you (just this once - don't get used to it...):-

    In “to protect there's and the Islanders legal rights”....“there's”....should be “their's”...plus an apostrophe after 'islanders'...you idiot.
    Why have so many dictionaries if you can't even read them ?

    Chicureo

    “Regarding Think: Although he and I are politically opposite —there is no doubt in my mind that he is my intellectual superior and received a high level of education”.

    May well be....but the notion of presumed intellectual superiority seems to be lost when he insists on twisting the facts....in that sense he resembles the cave dweller....not to mention that he also lives alone....with his sheep.....a bit weird, to say the least of it.
    And I really don't know what he can't understand about the fact the FI do not belong to the Argentine....never did, never will....must've been brainwashed as a 'kiddo'..
    “Fair free-trade”....fair and free.....say no more.

    Your 100% right.....maintaining cash flow is the trick of the trade.

    DT

    Re Chicureo's link, to blame the Chicago boys for inequality is ludicrous....it existed long before they they ever appeared..
    Gollum STILL hasn't realized, that I supported the military intervention in 1964, after it had happened, due to the fact that the alternative was communism....he can't seem to wrap his slimy head around this fact.
    Much like my initial support of Bolsonaro (x Haddad) in 2018....which boils down to the 'lesser of two evils'. But if Gollum can't repeat his lies, what else can he post ?

    Jun 14th, 2020 - 10:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    Jack Bauer Proof less, Truth less, & Psychological Transferee
    So you too are unable to refute my contention and are left quibbling about the form. Thus, It is a maxim of equity that “The law respects form less than substance, equity looks at intent, not at form”
    ”It used to be we thought that people who went around correcting other people's grammar were just plain annoying. Now there's evidence they are actually ill, suffering from a type of obsessive-compulsive disorder/oppositional defiant disorder (OCD/ODD). Researchers are calling it Grammatical Pedantry Syndrome, or GPS.“ illinois.edu/blog/view/25/76120
    “Grammar Pedantry Syndrome” is a form of OCD in which sufferers need to correct every grammatical error.” twitter.com/uberfacts/status/218151002707206145
    “A pedant is a person who is excessively concerned with formalism, accuracy, ... ” en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedant
    ”I supported the military intervention in 1964, after it had happened, due to the fact that the alternative was communism.“
    That is an absolute lie as you have already been shown many times.
    ”The only credited source for the so-called ‘communist-threat’ was: “Making the rounds of Brazil's major industrialists, de Paiva was able to appeal to their interests by translating his visceral hatred of communism into a simple message they could understand: Goulart wants to take away from you that which is yours.”
    Brazil and CIA by Peter Gribbin
    “The US can point to nothing even remotely threatening done by the Brazilian Communist Party”
    http://www-personal.umich.edu/~lormand/poli/soa/brazil.htm

    Jun 14th, 2020 - 11:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    DemonTree Jack
    Names are judged by your family reputation. For example, a person who’s father was convicted felon — is prohibited from being hired by the police.
    Also, if your parents supported Allende or Pinochet, does “stain” the family name in some circles.
    Jack, my reference of superior intelligence is like Screwtape’s nephew texting with his diabolical uncle.
    Madame and Mademoiselle have finally taken control over the farmhouse renovation which is a relief, but is somewhat frightening as well.

    Gollum has amazingly refrained from degrading Brazilian bathroom facilities and also his inflatable dolls in frilly dresses. Perhaps he's become infected?

    Jun 15th, 2020 - 12:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    Chicureo the Advocator of the Avocado, Psychological Transferee, Narcissist, Criminal Libeller, & the Spam King
    “Also his inflatable dolls in frilly dresses” Sorry they are products of yours and JB's disturbed thinking that you both attempt to project onto others.
    ”What is Psychological Projection (In Layman’s Terms)?
    What happens when you have a whole bunch of uncomfortable, embarrassing and annoying emotions that you don’t want to unconsciously deal with? According to famous psychologist Sigmund Freud these emotions are projected on to other people, so that other people become carriers of our own perceived flaws. Fortunately (or unfortunately) for us, this form of emotional displacement makes it much easier to live with ourselves … because everyone else is responsible for our misery – not us!
    As a result of externalizing our emotions and perceiving them in others, we continue suffering terribly, often creating false self-images that portray us as “the victim” or “the good/righteous person” when the reality is that we aren’t.”
    https://lonerwolf.com/psychological-projection/

    Jun 15th, 2020 - 01:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Mighty BIG words from a Brazilian bathroom expert living in his mother's basement.

    If the creature should win the Canadian lottery, I would highly recommend an apartment in Punta de Este where he'll have plenty of Argentine neighbors. Maybe there's hope for Smeagól after all.

    One of the things I really like about Uruguayans is their remarkable tax advantages and they’re upping the ante in attracting foreign capital investment. A lot of Argentines are looking for shelter.

    “It’s basically targeted to families wanting to live and invest here,” Fischer said in a telephone interview. “This isn’t an Argentine-focused initiative, but it’s natural to think that Argentines will be the majority of applicants.”

    https://news.bloombergtax.com/daily-tax-report-international/for-less-than-400-000-you-can-now-get-tax-residency-in-uruguay

    Jun 15th, 2020 - 01:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    Chicureo the Advocator of the Avocado, Psychological Transferee, Narcissist, Criminal Libeller, & the Spam King
    “Also his inflatable dolls in frilly dresses” Sorry they are products of yours and JB's disturbed thinking that you both attempt to project onto others.
    ”What is Psychological Projection (In Layman’s Terms)?
    What happens when you have a whole bunch of uncomfortable, embarrassing and annoying emotions that you don’t want to unconsciously deal with? According to famous psychologist Sigmund Freud these emotions are projected on to other people, so that other people become carriers of our own perceived flaws. Fortunately (or unfortunately) for us, this form of emotional displacement makes it much easier to live with ourselves … because everyone else is responsible for our misery – not us!
    As a result of externalizing our emotions and perceiving them in others, we continue suffering terribly, often creating false self-images that portray us as “the victim” or “the good/righteous person” when the reality is that we aren’t.”
    https://lonerwolf.com/psychological-projection/

    Jun 15th, 2020 - 01:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    “...And then you've got the ones who are just waiting for their parents to die. My one friend is like, 'This'll all be mine one day,' and I'm like, 'What are you talking about? Your mother is only 54. What are you gonna do, poison her?'”
    — Chris Rock

    Jack and I suspect your demented role model was the moth murderer from the movie: “Silence of the Lambs”

    Jun 15th, 2020 - 02:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    Chicureo the Advocator of the Avocado, Psychological Transferee, Narcissist, Criminal Libeller, & the Spam King
    “Mighty BIG words” Sorry they are products of yours and JB's disturbed thinking, that you both attempt psychological projection onto others.
    Freud said “Thought is a Roundabout Way of Wishing”. It's not difficult to surmise what your thoughts are, since you can't refrain from revealing them.
    He also said “The Unconscious nothing comes out of the Blue.”
    For someone who exhibits all the hall-marks of alcoholism, and a rather hostile view of women. Coupled, with the most obvious case of narcissism, and criminal libelling. You need to get your own act together, or you're just going to continue to deteriorate.

    Jun 15th, 2020 - 11:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Gollum the Dweller of its Mother's Basement, Psychological Deranged, Psychotic Narcissist, Brazilian Toilet Expert, & the King of Inflatable Sex Dolls
    “Canada is a festering scab upon this continent” ~ Abraham Lincoln “Bring in the bottled lightning,a clean tumbler, and a corkscrew.” ~ Charles Dickens “To mourn a mischief that is past and gone, Is the next way to draw new mischief on.” ~ William Shakespeare: Othello, I, iii, 204 A gentleman savors wine, they don't consume it — and is my only defense living with rather hostile women. You need to get YOUR own act together! All I do is to provide employment for my fellow neighbors — that help me provide superfood avocados and delicious grapes for a hungry world. Other than whining, what have you truthfully done for your country, or contributed to the world in any kind?

    Despite some unfortunate actions, General Pinochet saved my country from a similar fate of Venezuela. He also left a legacy of one the most progressive and prosperous, economically stable Democratic countries.

    They say a rising tide raises all boats, which was complicated by the enthusiastic immigration policies of our previous 'well-meaning' socialist president — that has flooded my country with a large influx of unskilled workers from Haiti. This has been problematic for average income wages of the lower income classes, but excellent for employers utilizing seasonal laborers.

    Would you suggest that I complain about my socialist president for making my life situation better?

    Jun 15th, 2020 - 02:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    JB
    Sure inequality existed long before the Chicago boys, but other, poorer, countries than Chile have done a better job of reducing it since they were in charge.

    Chicureo
    “a person who’s father was convicted felon — is prohibited from being hired by the police.”

    Seriously? That's very unfair, no one can help what their parents did. Plus what happens if someone's father is convicted of a felony after they joined the police? And although people often share their parents' views on politics, it's not always true. It's understandable, but not good to assume like that.

    “Would you suggest that I complain about my socialist president for making my life situation better?”

    Don't you know you're contractually obliged to complain about socialists?

    Jun 15th, 2020 - 03:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    Gollum
    “So you too are unable to refute my contention and are left quibbling about the form”.

    My dear Gollum, if that doesn't sound like a huge sidestep to avoid the issue, I don't know what it is....but, a mistake is a mistake, in whatever form.
    And I don't see what the law has to do with your ignorance.

    Did you, by any remote possibility, even realize that you 'could' have replied to me in one, simple sentence, such as “I, Terence Hill, am a complete asshole, and thank you for correcting my many mistakes”.....instead of a 20-line paragraph filled with useless bs ?



    Chicureo
    “Jack, my reference of superior intelligence is like Screwtape’s nephew texting with his diabolical uncle.”

    Yeah, have no reason to doubt Screwtape's IQ, but when he resorts to 'trying' to be witty and 'diabolical', he sounds as false as 'a USD 3 bill'. He'll attack simply for the sake of attacking, a lamentable trait of the human beast.
    IMO, he just self-centered old fart.

    “Gollum has amazingly refrained from degrading Brazilian bathroom facilities and also his inflatable dolls in frilly dresses. Perhaps he's become infected?”

    Perhaps he's been too busy trying to understand where he's comitted grammar mistakes, and how to wiggle out them....a monumental task for an idiot like himself.....as to becoming infected with the virus, only if he's been sharing Long Dong with some other pervert.

    As Chris Rock suggests, he longs for the day he can smash down the basement door and take over the ground floor.

    When you mentioned his dolls 'n their frilly dresses, I noticed an increase in level of stress ...which prompted him to allege : “Sorry they are products of yours and JB's disturbed thinking that you both attempt to project onto others”.
    I believe this would be a suitable response : -
    “Since you provide no evidence for your assertion, I take it that it's simply your opinion. In other words, you're simply tendering your worthless word”
    (where have I heard this rubbish before ?)

    Jun 15th, 2020 - 03:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    Jack Bauer Proof less, Truth less, & Psychological Transferee
    “Psychological projection is a defence mechanism people subconsciously employ in order to cope with difficult feelings or emotions. It involves projecting undesirable feelings or emotions onto someone else, rather than admitting to or dealing with the unwanted feelings.”
    Your very own 'mummy hang-ups,' which you frequently reveal in your 'matriarchal diatribes'
    https ://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Psychological+projection

    Chicureo the Advocator of the Avocado, Psychological Transferee, Narcissist, Criminal Libeller, & the Spam King
    Your drinking earlier than usual, keep up and you'll be dead within five years, which may not be a loss to many.
    Signs and symptoms of narcissistic personality disorder
    Grandiose sense of self-importance
    Grandiosity is the defining characteristic of narcissism. More than just arrogance or vanity, grandiosity is an unrealistic sense of superiority. Narcissists believe they are unique or “special”.
    Narcissists also believe that they’re better than everyone else and expect recognition as such—even when they’ve done nothing to earn it. They will often exaggerate or outright lie about their achievements and talents.
    Lives in a fantasy world that supports their delusions of grandeur
    Narcissists feel threatened whenever they encounter someone who appears to have something they lack—especially those who are confident and popular. They’re also threatened by people who don’t kowtow to them or who challenge them in any way. Their defense mechanism is contempt. The only way to neutralize the threat and prop up their own sagging ego is to put those people down.
    https://www.helpguide.org/articles/mental-disorders/narcissistic-personality-disorder.htm

    Jun 15th, 2020 - 04:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    DemonTree Jack

    Yes, from an open independent opinion — “blood stained” individuals being judged and legally limited by his parent's actions appears wrong, but not from a Chilean standpoint.

    Other nuances are far harder to explain, but during my vetting and extensive naval academy acceptance process, not only was my parents background privately investigated. In the interview process, they asked about my grandparents. (And yet, the commanding admiral was an absolute evil criminal.)

    It's interesting that a cadet's religion was never in question, but you had to have a approved Priest, Reverend or Rabbi to recommend you. (Avowed atheists were unacceptable.)

    One great thing about being a cadet — was we were completely equal and judged solely by our merits. That's still highly uncommon in our normal Chilean society.
    (Socially unfair, but realist truth that accurately reflects my country.)

    Jack, CS Lewis defined devious intelligence as Screwtape.

    Amazingly, Gollum has his own TV Trope and very descriptive article: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BasementDweller

    I'm in Chicureo as the city outbound traffic with salvoconductos are being highly restricted. I haven't touched wine today, but this evening we're having seafood accompanied with Madame's favorite Viognier...

    Jun 15th, 2020 - 05:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    DT
    “weapons-grade obliviousness”, LOL, like it.

    Definitely on a medical scale somewhere, no normal interaction/understanding going on at all.

    It seems the endless Latin legal quotes prove (irrefutably no less) that the accuser has to prove his case or its false, never mind “not proven” for now, so far so good, but then he seems to equate a “not proven allegation” as a proof that what he says is therefore right.

    All this missing the blindingly obvious that we are not actually in any kind of court.

    We are blogging on a website, where I have not noticed any such principles applied, “Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy”, “Soma's Dictionary of Latin Quotations”, no doubt riveting reads, but for blogging, hello, any grownups home.

    TelBot
    Just so you know, the rules her are, there are no rules, whatever you can get pass the mediator is good. Proof only exists when talking about data, some wit will always find some figures from somewhere, not mentioning any names DT.

    Everything else is allegation, insinuation, opinion, contention or otherwise un-provable bollox.

    No one is going to, or needs to, “prove” anything about your alleged deviant behaviour/fetishes, reportedly squalid living conditions, rumoured convictions/ questionable past, purportedly non-existent military career, believed toilet obsession, otherwise assumed general level of stupidity/complete inability to understand what is going on.

    They are simply going to “put it out there” and watch you “bite”. It’s called “a taunt”. No proof of any kind or legal process involved, just entertainment value.

    “So all the rules as pertains to what is 'true', should be disregarded on the basis your opinion, that vox populi reflects a greater truth. Horse feathers, that's absolute nonsense.”

    Jun 15th, 2020 - 05:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pogul-X

    Cont:
    Wrong, this is a court of public opinion where the “vox populi” is heard, not pseudo legal/classical blither. As DT points out “There's 5 people posting in this thread, of diverse views, who agree only in thinking Terry is an idiot.”

    You’re not winning!

    As for the medical diagnoses, simply hours of entertainment, a competition no less who can get the grandest sounding “title”. Chicureo is winning.

    This does not work in your favour.

    “Everyone else is responsible for our misery – not us!” No of course not, you and the “Precious” are not to blame.

    Jun 15th, 2020 - 06:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    Chicureo
    “Yes, from an open independent opinion — “blood stained” individuals being judged and legally limited by his parent's actions appears wrong, but not from a Chilean standpoint.”

    To judge a kid solely by his/her parents' screw-ups, is a bit drastic....but as they say, the apple never falls far from the tree.....in Brazilian politics, it is common for families to form political dynasties, and in this context, “Like father, like son” has never been truer. Sons of corrupt politicians invariably turn out to be the same crap as their father. In a general sense, it's less likely to apply to 'common' people, but all depends on the circumstances... here they have another saying, “filho de peixe, peixinho é”...
    I see that Gollum carries on providing us with the definitions of his insults.....how considerate of him.

    Pugol
    Have to congratulate you.....I couldn't have described his behavior, or his fetishes, better.

    DT
    “Sure inequality existed long before the Chicago boys, but other, poorer, countries than Chile have done a better job of reducing it since they were in charge”.

    OK, if I have understood what you are saying, the Chicago Boy approach has been outdone by other systems....so, where and when exactly, only in order to visualize your idea.
    And, I'm presuming that the places you have in mind, to back what you have said, are democratic and free-market regimes...
    On the other hand, where inequality has historically always been present, I think that reducing it, comes down more to honest governance and a no-nonsense approach, than by this or that economic principle, alone....i.e., in a free country, it's no use following Friedman or Keynes - or any other policy - if the government is not interested in doing what it was elected to do, or if there is no long term plan to stick to.

    Jun 15th, 2020 - 07:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    Chicureo the Advocator of the Avocado, Psychological Transferee, Narcissist, Criminal Libeller, & the Spam King
    “Amazingly” you're still alive, your narcissism holding you up, so you can attempt to project your own problems on to others.
    Pugol-H the Ingratiator
    “Never mind “not proven” ... he seems to equate a “not proven allegation” as a proof that what he says is therefore right” You finally clued in Pontiac.
    “The burden of proof lies upon him who affirms, not on him who denies”
    Soma's Dictionary of Latin Quotations, Maxims and Phrases
    When you fail to meet your burden, it's not unproven, it is untrue.
    As thoughts can never be unproven.
    “Thoughts are either true or false in an absolute sense, never both or neither.”
    Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy; States of Affairs; First published Tuesday Mar 27, 2012
    “No one is going to” that's got to be tough, when you think you've got an easy mark, and are bested at every turn.
    I shall continue to follow the accepted precepts of proving and disproving. While you are left out, babbling in right field.

    Jun 15th, 2020 - 08:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    Chicureo
    “That's still highly uncommon in our normal Chilean society.”

    Helps explain why inequality is still so high.

    Why weren't honest atheists allowed in your navy?

    JB
    More like one system might be better for increasing total wealth and another for increasing wealth of the poorer section of society. IIRC Argentina is more equal than Chile but always seems to be suffering financial disasters. Uruguay perhaps has similar policies but without the regular screw-ups. Besides, how do you compare eg Brazil and Chile? Brazil has higher inequality but it has fallen more quickly.

    But I agree that when the government is corrupt and/or ineffective, then it doesn't much matter what system they are trying to implement, it's not going to work out well.

    Pugol-H
    Terry just doesn't get it. He's like those cargo cultists who build something plane-shaped out of random materials and then expect it to fly. He's seen that people make arguments, accuse others of fallacies etc, but doesn't understand what an argument actually is, or the different contexts of a courtroom vs a formal debate vs chatting on a forum. So he treats it like a word game: if he can find a quote with the words he wants, then the context or meaning is irrelevant and he's 'won'.

    Jun 15th, 2020 - 09:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    DT
    It's pretty hard to Compare Chile and Brazil, reasons being, IMO, that Chile's population is infinitely smaller (18 million today ?), and about 2 million slaves were brought to Brazil during the colonial period and up to abolition (1888)...and during that time, that number must have increased considerably......the 1890 census has Brazil's population at about 19 million, which means a high percentage back then were of African descent, who were largely ignored by government....there was no effort by government to integrate them into society , so they naturally formed the basis for the tremendous inequality that exists a century later.
    Chile, afaik, never had African slaves....
    The notion that inequality has fallen here, is not real.....don't lap up the leftist spin that it did.....people leaving poverty here, do it on their own merit, not because of a few crumbs from the government every month.

    D'you think Terry believes the world is flat ? would think so, as LDS never rolls out of his reach....and, he's never been out of the basement. He must get confused when darkness turns to light, outside....

    Jun 15th, 2020 - 10:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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