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Argentina prepares strong diplomatic offensive to recover Falklands' sovereignty

Friday, August 7th 2020 - 09:40 UTC
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Argentina is planning to intensify its policy to claim sovereignty over the Falklands and other South Atlantic Islands with a road map that contemplates three immediate objectives, reinstate in the Organization of American States the claim, resurface the legal threat against oil companies operating in South Atlantic (Falklands) waters and put pressure on the European Union so that a post-Brexit trade agreement with the UK does not include the Falklands in the list of Overseas Territories. Read full article

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  • Dirk Dikkler

    So there back to the Old Fall Back Claims which Worked so well last Time, OH wait a minute they didn't Work then and are now Doomed to Fail again, a “Country that Fails to Learn from its mistakes in the Past is Doomed to Repeat those Mistakes !!”.

    Aug 07th, 2020 - 09:41 am - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Judge Jose

    Yet another pointless claim/story, the Falklands belong to the people who live there and that will NEVER change unless the Islanders want to change it, the islands were settled long before Argentina existed,

    Aug 07th, 2020 - 09:52 am - Link - Report abuse +3
  • ehw0405

    Time for Uruguay's claims against Argentina to be dealt with.

    Aug 07th, 2020 - 10:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brit Bob

    Just more rhetoric from Narnia.

    Critics of the Argentine government’s strategies and rhetoric toward the Falkland islands have coined a new verb – malvinizar – to describe how the claim for and memory of the Malvinas is used simply to divert attention away from more serious domestic socio-economic challenges .

    Aug 07th, 2020 - 11:00 am - Link - Report abuse +2
  • kelperabout

    If the Argentines had an ounce of sense which of course they have not, they would steer clear of trying to put wedges between Europe and the Falkland Islands trade.
    They are forgetting the real importance of Falklands fish produce and in particular squid has in feeding the European people.
    But of course that is what Argentina really wants is the fish stock we have. It must really be hurting them to see this very small country just four hundred miles off their coastline professionally managing their fish stock and finances. This little country with a mere 3500 inhabitants are shoving success right in the face of their neighbours failing economy that is debt ridden and wants to find new fortunes that we already successfully manage.

    To interfere with the Falklands will be their final undoing , the world thinking has changed and no longer does it allow aggression or threatening behaviour towards another people.
    We still have a very powerful economy for our size and Europe recognises the importance of our fish stock to their markets.
    So Argentina be prepared to be disappointed in your current plans to derail a succesful Falklands European relationship.

    Aug 07th, 2020 - 11:21 am - Link - Report abuse +6
  • Roger Lorton

    Argentina's Government prepare to con the Argentine people yet again.

    What I find fascinating is the Argentines do not trust their government on any level or on any subject, except one. Over the Falkands, Argies appear prepared to swallow huge amounts of bullcrap dished out by successive governments. Perhaps they like the taste?

    Aug 07th, 2020 - 11:40 am - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Think

    Well..., well..., well...

    1) Some days ago..., the 29 members of The United Nations Decolonization Committee did..., for the first time ever.., UNANIMOUSLY and WITHOUT ANY ABSTENSION..., approved a resolution calling on the UK and Argentina to resume negotiations about the Malvinas/Falklands Issue.......

    The new development is that TEN (10) of the current 29 members of that Honourable UN Committee are former BRUTISH COLONIES..., including INDIA...,a democracy that represents ~ 18% of the world's total population...

    2) AFAIAI..., the EU is already seriously looking at the Argie petition of leaving the contentious Malvinas/Falklands territory OUT OF ANY FUTURE COMMERCIAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE EU & THE UK..........

    All in all..., a very auspicious start for our reneved efforts to get rid of them Engrish Pirates from the South Atlantic...

    Capisce...?

    Aug 07th, 2020 - 11:53 am - Link - Report abuse -5
  • kelperabout

    Think . Clutching at straws again are you. Same old usual. Argentina is about to fail monetarily yet again and you need a diversion. I feel quite proud to know that this tiny Country of ours is your one and only means to try and divert attention away from your devastating problem that is bringing the Argentine economy to its knees.
    It will be just a matter if time before some of your so called friendly neighbours realise the serious state that you are in and will rise against you possibly taking over your very existence.
    Karma works in very mysterious ways so you better start watching your back. We Islanders have done nothing wrong and that is why we shine at every attempt your Country makes against us.
    Stop dreaming of how you are going to take back something you have never owned. Two hundred years you have been pushing this ideal and every time it comes back to bite you.
    Next time you try your tactics this little Country has a bigger sting in its tail and you will get the just rewards you so seek. Total destruction of your economy and that is just for starters. Then what would follow then is an internal uprising and the indigenous people will one day get back all that you stole from them.
    We are no longer afraid of your threats because we have learned in 200 years they are nothing but meaningless. We also know just what kind of people you really are in your government. Despicable towards a peaceful people .
    You are fast running out of ideas and becoming a bigger world joke than you was before 1982.

    Aug 07th, 2020 - 12:24 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Don Alberto

    I am really surprised that

    China (which wants to attack and occupy the island state Taiwan)
    Rusia (which attacked and occupied the island Crimea)

    support Argentina's unwarranted claim to the British Falklands Islands.

    Really surprising, ain't it?

    Aug 07th, 2020 - 01:13 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • nitrojuan

    @Judge Jose, “the Falklands belong to the people who live there”... really? as people from Diego Garcia Islands? good background, please don't be hypocritical.

    Aug 07th, 2020 - 02:48 pm - Link - Report abuse -4
  • Pugol-H

    Very, very surprised if the EU do take a position like that, for various reasons, not least because they are already included and they haven’t even taken that position over Gibraltar.

    And this presumes there will be a trade deal in the first place.

    Otherwise a list of already tried (during the last economic meltdown) and failed policies.

    Reminds me of when Christina had tried all this and said “it’s taken us a long time to get this far”, she never did say where it was exactly they had got to.

    Don Alberto
    Don’t forget India occupying Kashmir.

    nitrojuan
    Marvellous, another Creole Planters talking about the uninhabitable Chagos Islands.

    Are saying the British Gov of the day should not have moved the population from the Chagos Islands?

    Or, are you saying that the current British Gov should do exactly the same to the Kelpers today?

    Or, what is the connection?

    Aug 07th, 2020 - 03:59 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Judge Jose

    @nitrojuan. talking nonsense, 2 different situations altogether, however , yes i also think the people should be allowed back to Diego Garcia,

    Aug 07th, 2020 - 04:35 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • border rover

    Usual completely incoherent ramblings from MrThink. All the United Nations agreed to is that the two sides should talk.. That's a really good idea. Why not talk about initiating trafe and yravel links between the mainland and the islands? Why not have intelligent and adult discussions about easing your restrictions on any sort of interaction with the islands? Why not act as a grown up nation and accept that there is a very successful group of people living close to your country who could teach you a thing or two about developing industries such as fishing ? No , far better to continue bleating about “pirates”and “Colonialists” while your own country sinks lower and lower into economic chaos. You Argentines - Colonialists, in that you have displaced the indigenous peoples from their rightful lands - have occupied one of the potentially richest countries in the world and made a complete pillocks of it ! Not content with that you now desperately yearn for a bunch of small islands on which none of you would ever go to live and which you would screw up completely!!

    Aug 07th, 2020 - 05:21 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Think

    Evidently..., the ignorant Anglo Turnip poster just above can't read Engrish...:

    All the United Nations agreed to is to urge the two sides to talk about Sovereignity on them South Atlantic Isles...

    https://en.mercopress.com/2020/08/06/c24-calls-on-uk-and-argentina-to-resume-sovereignty-talks-on-south-atlantic-islands#comments


    Capisce...?

    Aug 07th, 2020 - 05:57 pm - Link - Report abuse -5
  • Brit Bob

    Think

    The United Nations?

    You make the C24 Committee sound so grand. Don't forget the big committee already voted:Motion supported by Spain and Argentina to restrict Self-Determination where there was a sovereignty dispute.

    In regard to this, on 20 October 2008 the United Nations General Assembly rejected a motion supported by Spain and Argentina by 61 votes to 40 to place restrictions on the right to self-determination where there was a sovereignty dispute, determining that it was a fundamental right. (UN Fourth Committee Approved Text on Non-Self-Governing Territories, GA/SPD/406, 20 Oct 2008).

    Aug 07th, 2020 - 06:58 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Terence Hill

    nitrojuan
    “As people from Diego Garcia Islands?”
    Your only eight years behind the times on the Chagossian issue.
    20 Dec 2012
    “The European Court of Human Rights has dismissed a case brought by Chagos Islanders claiming the right to return to their home in the Indian Ocean, bringing a long legal battle to a close.
    The court in Strasbourg ruled that the islanders’ case was inadmissible because the applicants had already been granted due legal process in Britain, where their case rumbled on for three decades.
    The ruling said that by accepting financial compensation from the British government in the 1980s, the Chagossians, who were expelled en masse to make way for a US military base, were no technically longer victims of human rights violations.”
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/9758451/Chagos-Islanders-defeated-in-European-Court.html
    26, 2019
    “The ICJ’s opinion cast a much-needed light on the long plight of the Chagossians peoples. While this opinion was not binding, it nevertheless provided a comprehensive and authoritative statement on the existing rules of international law, legitimising efforts to return the islands to Mauritian control.”
    Unfortunately, for those that want a happy ending both Mauritania, and the Chagossians have no further legal claims. As they signed off on issue, and accepted financial compensation.

    Aug 07th, 2020 - 07:05 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Think

    Me dear A. I. sockpuppet just above...

    The one eight years behind the times on the Chagossian issue is YOU...
    https://theconversation.com/chagos-islands-uk-refusal-to-return-archipelago-to-mauritius-show-the-limits-of-international-law-127650

    Capisce...?

    Aug 07th, 2020 - 07:24 pm - Link - Report abuse -6
  • Terence Hill

    Think.
    “The one eight years behind the times on the Chagossian issue is YOU..” Hardly, as the last definitive ruling was in ECHR.
    ICJ’s opinion was not binding, as it was taken under advisement.

    Aug 07th, 2020 - 08:35 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • rule_britannia

    Dear Merco Press,

    Argentina cannot “recover” Falklands' sovereignty. You can only “recover” something that is yours.

    Argentina had a claim to the Falkland Islands in the first decades of the 19th century but this was not accepted by Spain, from whom Argentina said it had inherited its claim. Instead, Spain had a consul at Port Stanley in the 1850s.

    Moreover, it has been argued by several authors on both sides of the dispute that Argentina tacitly gave up her claim by failing to mention it in the Arana-Southern Treaty signed between the United Kingdom and Argentina in 1849 and ratified a year later.

    After that Argentina failed to protest over the Falklands for 90 years and the Falklands were not mentioned in the President's Messages to Congress.

    The fact that Argentina revived its claim to the Falklands when it thought Great Britain might lose the Second World War or that it invaded the islands in 1982 does not amount to sovereignty.

    So Argentina can claim sovereignty if it likes - and perhaps even “obtain” it one day - but it cannot “recover” it.

    Aug 07th, 2020 - 08:37 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Don Alberto

    Poor, poor Shrinkbrain from Chubut is, after all these years of instruction, still unable to separate The United Nations from a UN sub-sub committee under the C4 committee. The sub-sub committee is named C24. Such sub-sub committees can express an opinion on a subject but whatever they may be led to believe, they have no influence on anything but their free lunches.

    Aug 07th, 2020 - 08:51 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Swede

    One can wonder why Argentina is investing so much of its resources in the so called “Malvinas Question”. Do they (or their government) really think they will achieve something? The only results are: 1) Making the Islanders even more (if possible) anti-Argentine. 2) Convincing the U.K. that it is necessary to protect the Islands with a rather large military presence in the South Atlantic.

    In the world outside Argentina and some of its Latin American neighbors this is a “Non-question”. It is never even mentioned in mainstream media, at least where I live.

    All this seems to be for domestic consumption.

    Many countries have territorial claims, but few talk so much about them as Argentina.

    Aug 07th, 2020 - 09:55 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Pugol-H

    Judge Jose
    Yes, they are two completely different arguments, but “a return” is not viable. It was no joke when I said “the uninhabitable Chagos Islands”. They are literally sinking beneath the waves.

    Swede
    Opiate for the masses, cheap and effective when in times of “economic stress”, which is often.

    Aug 07th, 2020 - 10:31 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Roger Lorton

    Thunk - what nonsense is this... ”1) Some days ago..., the 29 members of The United Nations Decolonization Committee did..., for the first time ever.., UNANIMOUSLY and WITHOUT ANY ABSTENSION..., approved a resolution calling on the UK and Argentina to resume negotiations about the Malvinas/Falklands Issue.... The new development is that TEN (10) of the current 29 members of that Honourable UN Committee are former BRUTISH COLONIES..., including INDIA...,a democracy that represents ~ 18% of the world's total population...”

    First time ever???? The C24 Falklands resolution is always adopted by consensus. Why? Because members have to be up-to-date with their fees in order to vote. They rarely, so they avoid having a vote. Nothing new there. Also, having failed to hear any representations this year, the C24 resolution appears weaker than usual. Not that it matters. The tradition is now that the C24, having adopted a Falklands resolution by consensus will NOT recommend it to the Fourth Committee for adoption by the General Assembly. That has been the way of it since the C24 were obliged to list their recommendations in 2004. As a result, there has been no UN Falklands resolution for 32 years.

    The link here is to the 2019 C24 Report where, once again, they failed to list their very own Falklands resolution among the recommendations.

    Of course, the real question is - Why the pantomime?

    https://falklandstimeline.files.wordpress.com/2019/09/a_74_23-en.pdf

    Aug 07th, 2020 - 11:21 pm - Link - Report abuse +5
  • Billy Hayes

    Offer kings head.

    Ask Argentina to negotiate selfdetermination; became a new free country; new free citizens of the world.

    No more dispute would mean a new free country whith 15k habitants in near future; 3k former subjets to be the elite of this new free country. At leats 3x times actual gdp.

    Argentine National Part at Darwin isthmus; Cultural House. National flag allowed to be the only one flying.

    White helmets x redcoats. Canadian, chileans, brazilians and uruguayans.-

    Overcome siege mentality.

    Aug 08th, 2020 - 03:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Why so many words..., Copper...?
    You always say to us that this case is closed...
    That the scofflaw is bridewelled and the keys thrown away...
    Lean back and enjoy your rural otium lad..., don't you believe your own words...?

    (Mate in six... ;-)

    Aug 08th, 2020 - 05:15 am - Link - Report abuse -4
  • Roger Lorton

    Case is indeed closed Old 'Un. But I still enjoy correcting your obvious errors. Mate has been and gone. After all, where is the advantage in the UK restarting a game it already won.

    Get it?

    Aug 08th, 2020 - 07:44 am - Link - Report abuse +6
  • Think

    Haaaaaaaaaaughty......

    Aug 08th, 2020 - 01:20 pm - Link - Report abuse -5
  • Don Alberto

    @Swede

    One can wonder why Argentina would want the British Falkland Islands. Assume that the Falkland Islanders decided to move to a sunny island in the Caribean or the South Pacific; you'll then have extreme difficulties finding Argentinos who would want to live on the Falklands.

    @ Pugol-H
    Yes, the Chagos Islands”are literally sinking beneath the waves, but that's nothing compared to the fact, that there aren't any freshwater sources on the islands, no rivers, no streams, no springs.

    The companies the indentured workers worked for, sailed freshwater to the islands when the rain water supply was insufficient. Today all the water, food and other essentials of daily life are shipped to the main island Diego Garcia.

    Aug 08th, 2020 - 01:45 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Pugol-H

    Don Alberto
    Both the UK and UN have done environmental studies which came to the same conclusions, rising sea levels mean increasing ingress of seawater into the remaining freshwater aquifers on the islands, the only source of fresh water, on what after all are coral atolls.

    Such that now the soils cannot grow crops or even sustain grazing animals.

    The UK has said it will hand the Islands to Mauritius once the Military base leaves, in approx. 20 years, if the lease isn’t renewed. Which I doubt it will be as by then the Islands will be well on their way in changing back to coral reefs.

    Essentially at that point any “return” becomes Mauritius’s problem.

    I don’t see any “return” being allowed by the British in the meantime, as they would not be able to survive there, the US has said it only provides resources for its own personnel on the base, they would not be “hiring” any local labour and they should not be included in any Chagossian re-settlement plan.

    The military base was not the only reason for them leaving, it is usually ignored the fact that the Islands were rapidly becoming uninhabitable.

    Aug 08th, 2020 - 03:52 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • border rover

    Just for once MrThink can we have a sensible answer from you to a simple straightforward question ? Forget all the puerile attempts at humour , just answer the question - do you accept that those who have lived and worked the islands for several generations have an absolute right to decide whether they wish to retain their links to the UK or whether they wish to become citizens of La Republica Argentina? If you feel that it is not their right to decide on what possible grounds do you deny their freedom to choose ?

    Aug 08th, 2020 - 07:33 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Think

    Of course..., lad...

    - I do fully accept that those who have lived and worked the islands for ANY number of generations have an absolute right to decide whether they wish to retain their PERSONAL links to the UK..., Rhodesia..., Norway..., Shile..., whatever..., or whether they wish to become citizens of la Republica Argentina...

    I do feel that it is their absolute right to decide and choose about that..., as it is my absolute right to decide and choose to retain my PERSONAL links to my Ancestors Countries AND be a citizen of la República Argentina...

    Having said the above..., I DO NOT have any right whatsoever to decide over or choose to give sovereignty over Argentinean territory to any of me Viking Clans...
    And neither have them British Crown Kelper Serfs...

    A simple straightforward answer to a simple straightforward question... I Think...

    Capisce...?

    Aug 08th, 2020 - 10:14 pm - Link - Report abuse -4
  • Roger Lorton

    Argentina never had sovereignty over the Falklands, old 'un....... That is rather the point.

    If you disagree, perhaps your adopted nation should take it to the ICJ? An advisory opinion on the question of inheritance perhaps? After all this time, it seems unlikely though. If Argentina actually had a case, they would have approached the International Court in 1920.

    Get it?

    Aug 08th, 2020 - 11:00 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Pugol-H

    border rover

    Of course he doesn’t believe they have any rights over the land, he is an Indian Murdering, Thieving, Creole Planter Bastard, Descendant of NogF*ck the F*ckwitt, squatting upon land the native population were ethnically cleansed from.

    None of which bothers him in the slightest, and when it comes to the rights of the legitimate population of the S. Atlantic, they can go the same way.

    He calls them “British Crown Kelper Serfs”, yet by any measure they have far more right to be there, than Stink the Planter has to be in S. America

    This is why an effective military deterrent is so necessary.

    What upsets him most is that Unlike Atahualpa or the Mapuche, the British have more than just sticks and stones with which to defend their territory from thieving Creole Conquistador Bastards, trying to “implant” themselves in our territory.

    Aug 09th, 2020 - 12:09 am - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Roger Lorton

    Argentine Strong Diplomatic Offensive v. British Brick Wall

    Know where my money is ;-)

    Aug 09th, 2020 - 05:42 am - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Pugol-H

    You could stop this offensive with a Lego wall.

    Aug 09th, 2020 - 11:23 am - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Think

    ACABrummies...

    ICJ is certainly one of the moves in the upcoming mate in 6..., lad...

    And..., by the way..., you monolingual Anglos in here better learn how to spell the name of that Argie EU Commissioner..., Josep Borrell...

    It won't be the last time you hear of him...

    Capisce...?

    Aug 09th, 2020 - 01:11 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Pugol-H

    Josep Borrell...

    https://ahvalnews.com/eu-turkey/which-side-history-are-you-mr-borrell

    About as much use as a chocolate tea pot, or Mate gourd.

    Aug 09th, 2020 - 01:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Don Alberto

    Shrinkbrain informs us that
    “ICJ is certainly one of the moves in the upcoming mate in 6..., lad...”

    This 6... means “We will take the case to ICJ in [the year] 6832”.

    Aug 09th, 2020 - 04:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    Stink....the Chimp

    Paraphrasing your sockpuppet, which sometimes gets the story right, I believe that you have taken “a thorough beating”.....“game, set, match”....

    Doesn't it make you angry, you Chubut Turnip, when he turns on you like that ? especially when you are the one that supplies the energy to keep his A I functioning ?.

    “You know what I mean ?” In case you're not sure, it is a phrase commonly used by idiots after every sentence...... something like “capisce”...

    Aug 09th, 2020 - 09:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Roger Lorton

    Thunk.... sure you got the name right - Josep Borrell. Not Josep Borrell Fontelles? As for the EU - more than one way to skin a cat. The islanders will be fine, however it works out. More importantly, they'll remain British.

    ICJ? LOL, now that'll be the day.

    Aug 09th, 2020 - 11:13 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Think

    Haaaaaaaaugty.....

    Aug 10th, 2020 - 09:27 am - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Livingthedream

    This is FAKE news! They only want you to chatter like chickens in a hen house! . Argentina did nothing to recover the islands in 200 years! oh yes, one ill prepared invasion with homesick conscripts that didn't know which side of a rifle to use. Be real!

    Aug 10th, 2020 - 01:13 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Think

    Mr. Livingtheyankeedream...

    ***“One ill prepared invasion with homesick conscripts that didn't know which side of a rifle to use. ”*** you say...

    Just to be sure..., are you referring to Malvinas or Viet-Nam...?

    Aug 10th, 2020 - 04:58 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Jack Bauer

    Stink....the Chimp

    Where's your sense of humour ?
    And BTW, just to be sure, Livingthedream was referring to the Falkland's....not Malvinas (what's that ?), nor Vietnam....

    Capisce...?

    Aug 10th, 2020 - 05:29 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Pugol-H

    JB

    At least in Vietnam the troops know how to use their weapons and had ammunition for them.

    I once spoke to an Argy veteran, a conscript, bad story, in training (joke) officers and NCOs get most of your wages.

    In the war he was in a hvy mortar platoon, no idea how to even put the weapon together, never mind fire it, if they had any ammunition.

    Some of the Argy units were of reasonable quality, even had ammunition, others were simply lambs to the slaughter.

    After the surrender the British allowed Argy officer to keep their sidearm, they were concerned their own men would kill them otherwise.

    Aug 11th, 2020 - 10:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    Pugol-H

    A very good friend of mine, an English Master Mariner, who lives here now, and with whom I worked for many years, was in the UK in April 1982. He in turn had a drinking buddy who was an RAF pilot who served in the Falkland's during the war.
    He tells a story, which no reason to not believe, that near the end, when Argy conscripts were surrendering by the dozens, they lifted a white flag.....the Brits left their cover to take prisoners, when suddenly some Argies got orders from a Colonel to open fire on the advancing Brits, killing a few. This revolted them so much, that after they'd rounded up all the Argies, they strapped a few grenades to the Colonel, pulled the pins and pushed him over a cliff. No charges were brought against them.

    That's how you treat cowards and traitors....it has to do with honour....something that Stink does not even know the meaning of.

    Expect he will now say I support the murder of poor defenceless, 'destitute' Argy Colonels.....

    Aug 12th, 2020 - 06:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    JB
    What Colonel, what cliff, nah he tripped and fell on a mine.

    Apparently there were a couple of “white flag” incidents, the only one I heard about was from a Para Cpl, who was there when one of them happened, he simply said “they were not given another chance”.

    In most cases they seem to be relieved to surrender, the reports since then in Argentina of the treatment of some of these men, at the hands of their own officers, was appalling.

    I was also told after the battle of Goose Green, and subsequent surrender, the Argy officers were asked to help identify their dead, by a British officer escorted by some NCOs and an interpreter, they said “no”, “Argentina knew who it had lost”, whatever that means. A Cpl then said “you lot are a complete f*cking waste of rations”, seems one of the Argys understood English and his hand went to his sidearm, the NCOs clicked off the safety’s on their Submachine guns, then he froze.

    I have also heard from Argys several, second/third, hand accounts of brutal Ghurkha actions, usually involving cutting Argy throats.

    They struggled to believe it when I explained actually Johnny Ghurkha didn’t see action in the war, the only Ghurkha casualty of the war was a Cpl of Engineers, killed during mine clearance after the surrender.

    Aug 12th, 2020 - 09:15 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Think

    You gotta luuuuuv them Anglo Turnips and all their faux Engrish War stories heard from their auntie Mathilde' Jamaican lover...

    ***“TRUE”*** stories like the one above about some (Engrish...?) soldiers strapping a few grenades to (Argie...?) Colonel, pulling the pins and pushing him over a cliff...

    My frail and humble Patagonian memory does only remember one (1) Colonel that got himself foolishly killed in Malvinas...

    And he was a Wandsworthian...

    Aug 13th, 2020 - 08:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • kelperabout

    What I do know is true the Argentines treated the conscripts appallingly to the point they were begging for food and getting tortured and killed if cought receiving any from locals who felt sorry for them knowing they did not want to come here to force control over our British way of life.
    Some had previously lived for awhile with their families during the time that the Argentines had their fuel deposits and civilian air service in operation.
    Many of these young boys would break down and try to apologise to those who offered food to them.
    The truth is Argentine hard line dictators had no idea of the way we peacefully lived our lives. They believed we were put here against our wishes and it was a rude awakening when they discovered that we actually did not want to be Argentines and that demoralised them.
    Today we still have hard liners who try to taunt us not because they want the islands but because Britain gave them a beating and they still hurt from that.
    Personally feel that if it were not for these few that bear such a grudge Argentina and its economy would be in a far better state than it is now. Their election are held with the intent one day they will own the islands while little effort is given to fixing their failing economy.
    Can you wonder why no islanders want to be a part of that instability of 65 billion of foreign debt. No one in their right mind would sacrifice wealth for poverty.

    Aug 13th, 2020 - 10:16 am - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Jack Bauer

    Stink the Chip

    You gotta luuuuuv them Chubut Turnips and their frail memories.....caused by alcohol-induced comas...

    Aug 13th, 2020 - 07:08 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Pugol-H

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    Aug 13th, 2020 - 08:58 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Terence Hill

    Think
    “You always say to us that this case is closed...” Just like the Diego Garcia is over.
    Both the Chagossians and the Mauritanians accepted the deals they were offered. Thus ECHR is quite correct, and the UK can now quite simply say any further legal scrutiny is barred as Res Judicata “also known as claim preclusion, is the Latin term for ”a matter decided” and refers to either of two concepts in both civil law and common law legal systems: a case in which there has been a final judgment and is no longer subject to appeal; and the legal doctrine meant to bar (or preclude) relitigation of a claim between the same parties.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Res_judicata

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  • Jack Bauer

    Pugol-H

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  • Terence Hill

    ”The Principle of res judicata before the International Court of Justice: in the Midst of Comradeship and Divorce between International Tribunals
    The current predicament of res judicata reads as follows: unquestioned recognition but unpredictable application. The ICJ has continuously pondered over this principle, always acknowledging it under very similar terms, though enforcement has followed diverse and rather obscure criteria. This article strongly favours the finality of judicial disputes and argues that the ICJ has been unable to define the precise scope of res judicata, thereby allowing considerable space for interpretation and tolerating re-litigation. This lack of clarity will likely become more acute in cases allegedly settled in a different judicial forum. Indeed, the Court’s broad subject-matter jurisdiction, make it the perfect venue to pursue a second decision. In light of the foregoing, this article proposes general guidelines for the ICJ to predictably carry out the triple identity test—persona, petitum and causa petendi— and effectively determine whether an issue was disposed of by a previous ruling, hoping that comradeship will prevail.
    https://academic.oup.com/jids/article-abstract/10/2/288/5333164?redirectedFrom=fulltext

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    JB
    Agreed.

    TERRY F*CKWITT (he is as thick as pig shit)

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    Pugol-H, Ingratiator General

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  • Jack Bauer

    Pugol-H

    I second that.
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    JB

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    Pugol-H

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  • Terence Hill

    ”Res Judicata, Precedent and the International Court: A Preliminary Sketch
    The doctrine of res judicata is perhaps most frequently seen as a general principle of law, imported into public international law by virtue of the operation of Article 38.1c of the Statute of the International Court. Professor Lammers reminds us that during the deliberations of the Advisory Committee of Jurists, appointed by the Council of the League of Nations to draft the Statute of the Permanent Court, Lord Phillimore noted that:
    the general principles … were these which were accepted by all nations in foro domestico, such as certain principles of procedure, the principle of good faith, and the principle of res judicata…[1]
    The validity of this claim was expressly endorsed by Judge Anzilotti in his dissenting opinion in the Chorzów Factory (Interpretation) Case,[2]
    and is supported by publicists who have paid particular attention to the normative category of general principles, such as Cheng,[3] Mosler[4] and, of course, Lauterpacht.[5]
    Australian Year Book of International Law 1999
    http://www5.austlii.edu.au/au/journals/AUYrBkIntLaw/1999/16.html

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    JB

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