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Argentina rejoiced with Germany's position on the Falklands/Malvinas dispute

Friday, January 22nd 2021 - 09:43 UTC
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Argentina is rejoicing because Germany's flag carrier Lufthansa formally requested the Civil Aviation National Administration and the Tierra del Fuego, Antarctica and South Atlantic Islands provincial government over flight and landing authorization for two charter flights to the Malvinas Islands from Hamburg. Read full article

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  • kelperabout

    Argentina clutching at another straw. How desperate they are to try and make it look like the rest of the world all supports them.
    The flight plan for this trip was requested and approved through the Falkland Island Government Aviation Dept and Argentina went ballistic that a country dare fly direct to the islands which they claim without their approval.
    What they fail to tell the world is that Britain had established a settlement on the Islands in 1765 a whole 68 years before Argentina tried to illegally set up in Port Louis.
    They are desperate for another cash flow and want ours and we see that in their efforts to distort the truth.
    Any country who supports the Argentine claim are themselves in denial.
    They have been shouting the odds and pressuring other countries to support them, yet behind the scenes most do not.
    One day the rest of the world will wake up to this scam Argentina has created.

    Jan 22nd, 2021 - 10:27 am - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Judge Jose

    Well said Kelperabout, inform the world of 1765 and show up BAs claim as pure fantasy,

    Jan 22nd, 2021 - 11:14 am - Link - Report abuse +2
  • KikeUshuaia

    KelperAbout, how right you are.

    But what the article fails to mention is that the Globe's airspace is divided in seamless zones called Flight Information Region, FIR. This just to make sure who's going to have a look in case something goes wrong. It has nothing to do with sovereignty. Chile has to receive the same acknowledgement if it wants to fly between Punta & MPA. Or if you want to fly to Canary Islands, you have to inform Morocco. So, once again Mr. Filmus and his mates managed to twist the truth for their 'benefit'.

    Jan 22nd, 2021 - 11:31 am - Link - Report abuse +5
  • Islander1

    What a dumbarsed lot the Arg Govt and Filimus and team are! FI could not care less where the diversion airport is- so long as there is one- that is airline Captain,s choice!

    BUT Arg has a ban on any non humanitarian flight using Arg airspace to fly to and from the Falklands - so IF bad weather prevents landing at MPA- and aircraft flys onto and lands I Ushuaia - How do they then give it permission to fly to Falklands the next day as it business- not humanitarian!!

    Pathetic and Immature Children- but then that sums up Argentine Politicians- always has done over the Falklands issue.

    Jan 22nd, 2021 - 11:33 am - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Roger Lorton

    Couple of problems with this story. I am told that the flight was being planned in November and that Lufthansa already had British permission for a landing at MPA. Considering Germany's ties with Argentina, it is, if anything, surprising that they took until the 21st January to submit a request to Buenos Aires. They were always going to need a second option if the rotor winds over MPA prevent a landing there.

    Jan 22nd, 2021 - 11:58 am - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Don Alberto

    KikeUshuaia is absolutely correct, that's how aviation works.

    Jan 22nd, 2021 - 11:59 am - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Ratamacue

    It really is time that the Noddy and Big Ears Government in Argentina grew up!

    Jan 22nd, 2021 - 12:12 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Think

    Geeeeeeeee....

    The usual procedural politeness between German and Argentinean aerospace authorities...
    The usual procedural politeness between the A.W.I. and the I.A.A...
    The usual “truth-divergent” Pom & Argie political points of view...

    Yet..., them Anglos in here get their knickers in a twist and raise an eyebrow...!!!

    Chuckle..., chuckle...

    Jan 22nd, 2021 - 12:50 pm - Link - Report abuse -8
  • Brit Bob

    Simple things please simple minds. A sovereignty claim without a case can only be described as worthless. Good for children and the indoctrinated.

    Jan 22nd, 2021 - 12:59 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Mike Summers

    It is becoming urgent that Filmus stay in post for as long as possible. He is such a child; it would be much more difficult with somebody with half a brain in post.

    Jan 22nd, 2021 - 01:47 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Think

    Couldn't agree more with you..., Mr.Summers...!

    - Argie Secretary Filmus is..., as you are living proof of..., doing an excellent political job annoying you Engrish squatters...

    - We will try to keep him as long as possible..., and I hope you do likewise with Boris and that other funny auld, tall chap..., you know..., him the father of Sixtus Dominic Boniface Christopher..., Alfred Wulfric Leyson Pius..., Peter Theodore Alphege..., Mary Anne Charlotte Emma,... Anselm Charles Fitzwilliam & Thomas Wentworth Somerset Dunstan....

    Jan 22nd, 2021 - 02:19 pm - Link - Report abuse -5
  • Pugol-H

    Well according to this:

    https://en.mercopress.com/2021/01/21/lufthansa-to-fly-nontop-to-falklands-carrying-german-scientists

    “The flight plan is set to include Punta Arenas in Chile as the alternative airport”.

    Not sure why they even bothered to tell the Kurepi planters, in occupied S. America.

    Jan 22nd, 2021 - 05:36 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Islander1

    Think- I am not wound up at all at the antics of Phillymouse- he is just a good source for a laugh and smile at the start of the day- he is instantly forgotten after a chuckle about an arse - and we normal sensible people get of with the day.

    Jan 22nd, 2021 - 10:46 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Think

    Excellent..., Mr. Timlander1...
    That's the proper haughty British way............., to lose what's left of the Empire...

    Jan 22nd, 2021 - 11:56 pm - Link - Report abuse -4
  • Roger Lorton

    So, how's that going?
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-argentina-falklands-germany-idUSKBN29R2KB

    Jan 23rd, 2021 - 02:21 am - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Think

    Quite after diplomatic plan..., copper...

    As I clearly stated in me first above comment...:
    ***“ The usual “truth-divergent” Pom & Argie political points of view...”***

    Capisce...?

    Jan 23rd, 2021 - 07:38 am - Link - Report abuse -4
  • Terence Hill

    Think
    “A German foreign ministry spokesman said the federal government’s position on the Falkland Islands had not changed.
    “The activities of private companies cannot be attributed to the Federal Republic of Germany and have no international consequences,” he said.”

    Well that's pretty cut and dried, so you peed your pants over nothing.

    Jan 23rd, 2021 - 11:38 am - Link - Report abuse +1
  • imoyaro

    Gauchito Drink...

    BORRACHO! PAYASO!! VOS SOS EL MENTIROSO!!!

    Jan 23rd, 2021 - 09:54 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Chicureo

    Estimado THINK

    I was just sampling a wonderful Aconcagua Merlot here in Panquehue when we felt another strong jolt.

    Apparently Mendoza had a 4.2 quake...

    ¡Saludos!

    Jan 24th, 2021 - 12:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    Ahhhh.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-argentina-falklands-germany-idUSKBN29R2KB

    So the murderous Kurepi Planters, Squatting in Argy occupied S. America, were bullshitting again.

    No change there then.

    Free Patagonia, arm the Mapuche, one planter one bullet.

    BANG!!!!

    Jan 24th, 2021 - 01:30 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Think

    Seems that one of your Anglo friends is calling for the murder of your upcoming son in law..., Shicuréo...

    Jan 24th, 2021 - 04:26 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Chicureo

    Estimado THINK

    I was not aware I had mentioned a hint about my daughter's love interest — although he does seem to be destined as a son-in-law.

    Whom is this “Anglo friend” and how do you know anything about my future yerno?

    ¡Saludos!

    Jan 24th, 2021 - 04:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Shicuréo...

    You ask...:
    ***Who is this “Anglo friend”*** (calling for the murder of your upcoming son in law.)
    I say...:
    Scroll up till your Anglo friend's...: *** Free Patagonia..., arm the Mapuche.., one planter one bullet.”***

    Capisce...?

    Jan 24th, 2021 - 05:23 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Chicureo

    Estimado THINK & Pugol-TTWH

    (I thought you'd read something in the media.)

    Although both my son and current yerno are attorneys [everyone hates lawyers]— my daughter's love interest belongs to a family that is one of the more hated families in Chile.

    He's simply an employee — not a shareholder.

    ¡Saludos!

    Jan 24th, 2021 - 05:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Sorry for having exacerbated your paranoia..., hermanito...

    Jan 24th, 2021 - 05:50 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Chicureo

    Estimado THINK

    Thanks for your concern, but I was curious...

    Personally — this pandemic period has developed into one of the most prosperous season's for fruit exporters in memory.

    ¡Saludos!

    Jan 24th, 2021 - 06:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    You made me curious now...
    That sweet young man..., wouldn't be a L.......yer by any chance....?

    Jan 24th, 2021 - 06:19 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Chicureo

    Estimado THINK

    So you did see the article!

    Always playing the chessboard three moves forward are you...

    Anyway, they have not made any announcements and speculation would foolish.

    ¡Saludos!

    Jan 24th, 2021 - 06:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    What article...?
    Just a bit of deduction...
    He could as well have been a Petermann (lucky you he ain't ;-) or a von Appen (unlucky you he ain't ;-)

    Jan 24th, 2021 - 07:05 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Chicureo

    Estimado THINK

    Then I can be assured you know absolutely nothing: https://youtu.be/izAqFoLtzKM

    If you still chess playing — Madame has surprisingly been charmed by the mature suitor and he does have ambitions — but I'm just pleased she dumped her old boyfriend.

    ¡Saludos!

    Jan 24th, 2021 - 07:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HblPucwN-m0

    Jan 24th, 2021 - 08:10 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Chicureo

    Estimado THINK

    Yes, my son was fortunate enough to capture a Deutsche Schule Fräulein that mixes well with our kiltro mix.

    My youngest seems to be following the same route as her older sister — and marry into an old respectable band of thieves.

    Still to early to contemplate.

    ¡Saludos!

    Jan 24th, 2021 - 08:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Shicuréo..., hermanito...

    - Having just entered the third decade of the XXI century..., uncle Think Thinks that your youngest chancleta is far too young to be following the same route as her older sister (who also was too young when she followed the same route as her dear mother)...

    - Whats the hurry...?
    - Don't you agree that fruit matures best at the plant than into the gas chamber...?

    Paraphrasing your favourite American President...: ***“She seems like a very happy young girl looking forward to a bright and wonderful future. So nice to see!”***
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NwigSM_Pesw

    Capisce...?

    Jan 25th, 2021 - 09:06 am - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Chicureo

    Estimado THINK

    I'll sincerely try to be inclusively open to all and try not to offend any sensitive proclivities that might offend some of the sensitive issues regarding our country mud-brick home lifestyle here in Panquehue.

    The climate changes all the time. We here have experienced occasional brutal bone dry droughts and in other years raging floods actually washing away buildings and bridges along in the path of a raging Aconcagua river.

    Mother Pachamama just recently reminded us here that she's always restless and ready to destroy or crops and even far worse — because she's a vicious bitch when it suits her mood. Fortunately, she's currently in a gentle benevolent period blessing us with record harvests and really beautiful weather.

    As I've mentioned in another comment thread — we are in the lengthy bureaucratic dance with Rabobank to qualify for EU subsidized solar energy investment that along with the tax benefits — makes it ridiculous to throw away the opportunity.

    As far as raging hormones and youth — as parents we already have set the wrong example long ago. The jeune fille from the Lycée Français lied about her age and it was a scandal when we were married. Although we've constantly bickered and fought — with occasions contemplating legal separation — we've stayed together and are blessed with grandchildren.

    That's why Madame really is charmed with the current suitor as he has the maturity and a decade in age difference seems to fit in her long category of requirements.

    (Personally I'm just happy she dumped her former boyfriend — and recognize I have little to say on who or when to determine what our children decide.)

    As far as Greta: The greatest carbon emitter on the planet is the ocean. It's also the largest producer of oxygen. We should do something about the poisoning of our planet — with Asia being the primary pollution criminal.

    Perhaps our avocado orchards might receive tax credits for carbon absorption and oxygen emissions...

    Jan 25th, 2021 - 02:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Fine “Patriarch” you are... ;-)

    https://www.ecestaticos.com/image/clipping/1200/900/9b79529ebe625b7d68d154f4864c46f1/10-senales-que-prueban-que-eres-un-hombre-controlado-completamente-por-tu-pareja.jpg

    Jan 25th, 2021 - 06:44 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Chicureo

    Estimado THINK

    The only rules that have been very useful for me — is to never order an adult child someone is prohibited to date and never reveal that you've had an investigation privately conducted of the suitor.

    Hormones, as you know too well, can dominate our thought process and sometimes can lead to complete disaster.

    I appreciate your image, but a more appropriate depiction of my current matrimony:

    https://www.google.cl/imgres?imgurl=https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/02/18/13/31572D7100000578-3452856-image-a-78_1455801187029.jpg&imgrefurl=https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3452856/But-just-good-friends-dear-Jealous-lioness-shows-male-partner-s-boss-spots-rival-flirting-him.html&tbnid=XcNqYluYwLatjM&vet=1&docid=wY3udt38hg11CM&w=962&h=641&hl=en-cl&source=sh/x/im

    ¡Saludos!

    Jan 25th, 2021 - 08:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Unnecessary excuses from one of the about 4,000,000,000 son of a woman male defectors at the almighty Matriarchy service....

    Jan 25th, 2021 - 10:29 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Chicureo

    Estimado THINK

    We are children of our mothers — but we must only assume who are our fathers really are. That's why the children always are generally bonded to their mothers.

    I admire your bachelor independence — yet I would pity my fate as one — although it always remains a possibility...

    Madame has returned to Santiago with our oldest daughter and children leaving myself with my youngest child away also with her paramour — leaving me as a bachelor in tranquil peace for the evening.

    (For the sexually confused closet alcoholic quietly seething in quiet rage reading this text — the following below is dedicated speciflly.)

    On this beautiful evening — I've assembled a marvelous clubhouse sandwich of sliced roasted chicken breast, smoked bacon, avocado, tomato and baby romaine lettuce with mayonnaise on toasted sourdough bread.

    This accompanied with an opened a wonderful '08 Viña Arboleda Carménère to savor as the sun is starting to set here in the valley with the sky turning from pale turquoise to the color of the liquid in my wine goblet.

    Unlike our pleasant Summer here — I see that certain localities in Canada are unfortunately suffering from frigid Winter weather. A sad existence — especially confined in a mother's basement.

    ¡Saludos!

    Jan 26th, 2021 - 12:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    ***“But we must only assume who are our fathers really are”***...???

    You really are a momio from the seventies..., hermanito...
    Ever heard of these...?...: https://dnasalus.it/product-category/test-di-paternita/

    Jan 26th, 2021 - 12:33 am - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Chicureo

    Estimado THINK

    Oh I known damn well who impregnated a 17 year old strikingly beautiful and enchantress of our first born. The following two have too many similarities to doubt as well — so I've never felt doubt.

    Complicating circumstances have been a part of my adventurous life.

    ¡Saludos!

    Jan 26th, 2021 - 12:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Btw..., my hermanito pollerudo...

    Your Rabobank photovoltaic talk the other day..., got me Thinking...

    I assume that you have some square meters of irrigation bassins down there in hot, evaporative Pelotillehue...

    Have you already been presented to a similar system...?
    If not..., I Think you should inform yourself...
    https://www.hydrosolar.it/index.html

    Capisce...?

    Jan 26th, 2021 - 02:54 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Chicureo

    Estimado THINK

    Sincere thanks for your suggestion! I first saw the technology being used by Norwegian fish farms.

    The floating panels are more expensive but require no support frames.

    The additional beneficial attribute is it substantially reduces pond evaporation.

    Pumps require heavy pulls of energy — but all the other needs can easily be supported by solar.

    The only problem — is cost per kilowatt.

    ¡Saludos!

    Jan 26th, 2021 - 03:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Shicuréo...
    Reduced evaporation...
    Algae free water = +effective pumping...
    Easy PV panels cleaning with close-by water...
    +Effective PV panels due to evaporation cooling (+2-4%)...
    Flat.., dust-free..., shadow-free already existing instalation surface...
    Eventual bifacial PV panels would profit from water light reflection(+8-12%)...
    Many m² of good agricultural soil freed from panels for production..., etc..., etc..., etc...

    IMHO..., cost per kilowatt..., in your specific case..., seems to depend more of financing conditions & subsidies than technique...

    Besides...
    What do you mean with ***“Pumps require heavy pulls of energy”***...???
    Are you refering to the few miliseconds surge necessary for starting them...?

    Anyhow...
    I Think you should ask your photovoltaic consulent about advanced solar pumps...!!!
    It doesn't make any economic sense NOT to run the WHOLE OPERATION with solar energy...

    Capisce...?

    Jan 26th, 2021 - 04:53 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Chicureo

    Estimado THINK

    I'm all for using the reservoir tanks for utilizing. The fact the panels require no support and the reduced trans-evaporation benefits are all proven positive.

    Also, auxiliary power needs are easily converted to a solar grid.

    The pumping matrix is complex and is my most demanding energy requirement that we maintain two auxiliary diesel units to backup the normal electrical power.

    (I can screw around my electricity sources, but the irrigation needs of the farm cannot afford even a 12 hour break during high trans-evaporation periods.)

    We will never run our whole operation only with solar, but it makes perfect sense to include the source into our normal needs.

    Small steps...

    Your president is visiting La Moneda today. Also in the news is the DC have nominated Carolina Goic as their candidate for President. I think she has a better chance winning than anyone from the UDI or RN.

    Again I appreciate your help.

    ¡Saludos!

    Jan 26th, 2021 - 05:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Goes wihout saying that the whole PV system should be a “hybrid”..., grid connected one..., hermanito...
    Primary running on solar but connected to the national electric grid...
    (And you can keep your stinky..., already amortized diesel generators as a third backup)

    ***“Small steps”*** you say...?
    What happened with ***“Who Dares Wins”***...?

    Jan 26th, 2021 - 06:18 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Chicureo

    Estimado THINK

    We have been in discussion with LORENTZ based in Germany and China as well as our friends in Israel.

    Despite the outrageous high cost — using electricity from our national utility is cheaper than “free” solar power without tax and financial subsidies. (As those advantages become available — we’ll make a more complete transition.)

    My father and uncle truly dared conventional thought when they planted on the hillsides — but they were desperate.

    Right now I’m riding a debt service seasonal capital monster that won’t turn positive until August/September.

    I’m playing safe and let another pioneer better capitalized to make a risky jump. Plus, each year we are seeing higher efficiency at lower costs.

    There’s no doubt solar is the future in Chile.

    ¡Saludos!

    Jan 26th, 2021 - 07:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Nothing better for small steps than a cash flow challenge...

    Buona fortuna...

    Jan 26th, 2021 - 07:17 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Chicureo

    Estimado THINK

    Debt service has been the death of some of my grower friends.

    If, and only if, we receive a financial subsidy — we'll go forward with the careful process of conversion.

    Pay attention to Carolina Goic in the future...

    ¡Saludos!

    Jan 26th, 2021 - 07:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Don't hurry..., hermanito..., I can wait...;-)
    (Btw..., Lorentz solar pumps are second to none)

    Won't be paying attention to Carolina..., too broad a nose...
    Besides..., she is auld, used news...

    Jan 26th, 2021 - 07:58 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Chicureo

    Estimado THINK

    Its sunset and another beautiful evening to end a profitable day. Each day, we are still deluged by people seeking employment — very alarming...

    I'm already depressed that nobody on the political Right has a chance. Despite her flat nose, Carolina is the only moderate Leftist that is palatable.

    What we fear is the Left rising which seems our ominous future.

    I note now the latest international catch phrase has gone from NEW RESET to BUILD BACK BETTER. Of course, the catch word continues to be INEQUALITY.

    In my last conversation — my friend in San Juan mentioned that if it were not for his sheltering money abroad — he'd have no comfortable future. He’s living well, but he’s worried about Argentina’s inflation.

    All I can do is to prepare for the next financial crisis by staying cash net positive after my net sales are returned.

    Being an exporter is like running a Ponzi scheme... ...you always have to invest new fresh capital or the debt load will destroy eventually anyone. (And yes, I know capital in Chile is cheap right now.)

    Personally I worry that cheap capital will result in a collapse of our worldwide financial system. Although I do believe hard assets will continue to appreciate for those who can hold on to them. (Farmland is better than gold right now.)

    Meanwhile, the Chilean lower middle class continues to get deeper in consumer credit debt.

    Tonight I'm again dining alone as my youngest has begged a couple of extra days away from the farm and my evening's menu is a pork sandwich with the remainder of yesterday's Carménère.

    Our Venezulana has become my valuable personal assistant, but I think she’ll probably be married by next year.

    ¡Saludos!

    Jan 26th, 2021 - 10:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Believe it or not Shicuréo..., but I can assure you this...:
    - Making your pork Sangüiches the Danish way (Flæskesteg)..., and staying cash net positive will immesaurably add quality to the rest of your life...

    And doing as the Good Swede says..., will add quality to your children's & grandchildren's...
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KjRDUlkEbu4

    Capisce...?

    Jan 26th, 2021 - 11:16 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Chicureo

    Estimado THINK

    She’s adorable! Reminds me of ‘Children if the Corn’ in the ‘Great Reset of 2021’.

    I sincerely hope she's not a vegan as I personally think it harms the health of our youth. (An occasional bit of animal protein is good for developing bodies.)

    But we do strongly recommend embracing a healthy plant based diet and that’s why we’re busy providing healthy and nutritious fruit — from carbon absorbing and oxygen emitting avocado forests providing gainful employment to those less privileged.

    If the EU and Rabobank are cooperative — we’ll be further reducing our carbon footprint — perhaps even negative status. (Let alone our forest contributions.)

    Speaking of which, the Hass avocado markets are currently outstanding:
    https://www.fruitrop.com/en/Produits/avocado

    The greatest gift I can look leave for my grandchildren is an excellent education and a sense of self reliance — as we’ve provided for our three children. (As you know — the school you attend is helpful as well as how you conduct yourself in our limited culture.)

    By the way, this evening's pork was the leftover lechón from Sunday’s family lunch and was absolutely delicious as was/is the day old Carménère. (My mother would have approved — 'waste not, want not'.)

    ¡Saludos!

    Jan 27th, 2021 - 01:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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