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Former Sao Paulo Governor Alckmin asked to run for Brazil's VP job alongside Lula

Tuesday, November 30th 2021 - 09:33 UTC
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Former Brazilian President Luiz Inácio Lula Da Silva and former São Paulo State Governor Geraldo Alckmin were said Monday to have been working on a possible ticket for next year's presidential elections. Read full article

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  • Jack Bauer

    Alckmin and 9-fingered ex-convict discussing plans for 2022.....surprising ? Yes, and No.....

    Yes, because the PSDB and the PT have always been political adversaries, Alckmin and Lula have always been arch-enemies....and now .....whodda thunk it ?

    No, because 90% of Brazilian politicians are 'physiological', in that that they will chop and change parties, as well as their manifest political convictions, and adapt to whatever situation that guarantees their political survival......in other words, no morals, no sound principles, just a bunch of disgusting liars.

    Last time I spoke to Alckmin was at the wedding of one of my nephews - 6 years ago - and I asked him what the PSDB was doing to get rid of the Lulla-thief....his words, “we're working on it”....now he is cozying up to the ex-convict....as far as I'm concerned, Alckmin is killing himself politically, because those who have traditionally supported him aren't going to accept his move towards Lula.....but let's see if he goes through with it, or backs down to save what's left of his already weak reputation.

    Nov 30th, 2021 - 04:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    I have nothing to comment.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7-BMs_f36Y

    Nov 30th, 2021 - 05:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    “CIA whistleblower John Kiriakou speaks about Sergio Moro and US interference in Brazil

    Look at Brazil, look at President Lula, look at Dilma Rousseff, they had no bad intentions against the United States. They were democratically elected in their country and the United States decided: “We don’t like them, we want someone much more on the right”. So, instead of interfering with the election or maybe I should just say interfering with the elections, a program was designed to destroy them and so poor President Lula ended up in prison, President Dilma Rousseff ended up with her reputation destroyed and the world ended with Jair Bolsonaro.
    Anyone who has eyes and can read can see the leaks, and can see through their own mouths and their own admission, that they were unofficially involved with the Department of Justice, but not just that, there was more. Messages leaked in which prosecutor Dallagnol referred to Lula’s arrest as a gift from the CIA. And then Jair Bolsonaro and Sergio Moro, the judge who put Lula in prison, made an unprecedented visit to CIA headquarters in Langley, shortly after coming to power with the backing of Wall Street.”
    https://www.brasilwire.com/cia-whistleblower-john-kiriakou-speaks-about-sergio-moro-and-us-interference-in-brazil/

    Dec 01st, 2021 - 12:19 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Jack Bauer

    brasilwire ? great source F*ckwitt, keep it up..

    As to the poor wee Lulla-thief and the Dilma-baffoon, greatest presidents ever.....

    Dec 01st, 2021 - 02:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    “Brasilwire ? great source”

    It is merely the publication. It’s source is :
    “CIA whistleblower John Kiriakou speaks about Sergio Moro and US interference in Brazil”
    It’s duly noted that you are unable to refute a knowledgeable expert.

    Dec 01st, 2021 - 04:08 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Pugol-H

    Terry F*uckwitt
    There you go again, inanely blithering on ad infinitum, ad nauseam, about a country you can’t even decide if you have ever been there or not, for a takeaway churrascaría.

    Tell us again about the ‘bags of soiled Bumf’ overflowing in Brazil, why don’t you???

    Text book Dunning-Kruger effect:

    https://www.britannica.com/science/Dunning-Kruger-effect

    ‘Dunning-Kruger effect, in psychology, a cognitive bias whereby a blithering idiot with very, very limited knowledge and even less competence in a given intellectual or social domain, greatly overestimate their own knowledge or competence in that domain relative to objective criteria or to the performance of their peers or of people in general or even complete idiots.’

    Shine on Tel, shine on.

    Dec 02nd, 2021 - 04:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    Pugol, the ingratiator, camp follower, perpetual loser, and clinker.
    I guess when you’re a clinker, your whole world consists of nothing but excrement.

    Dec 02nd, 2021 - 05:44 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Jack Bauer

    Skippy F*ckwitt, aka Terence Hill

    “It is merely the publication. It’s source is :......”

    The source is a whistleblower who (must be an 'extremely' reliable person, so much so that he betrayed his oath, and) very likely only divulged what suited him, in an attempt to discredit Moro (which, without proof, is nothing more than speculation) and the lefty journalist - obviously a Lulla-lover - who wrote that crap.

    But the really crappy thing about it, is the fact you lap it up as if it were the Gospel truth.
    As the saying goes, “there's one born every minute”....

    But once again Skippy , you clagnut, you contradict yourself .......you are over willing to believe 'one' CIA whistleblower, Mr. John Kiriakou, yet you refuse to believe the 'dozens' of whistleblowers (in Petrobras, and from the contractors), who confessed to their dirty dealings with Lulla, and who submitted loads of evidence and proof which lead to the 9-fingered clagnut's conviction.....not surprisingly, with you, it's always the double standard.....anyone but your leftist heroes can do any wrong....poor deluded Skippy !

    Pugol

    Thanks for explaining the Dunning-Kruger effect to Skippy.....despite it being put to him very clearly - in fact, in the same manner as he loves to explain 'the obvious' to everyone - I have my doubts that he will be able to understand it......

    Dec 02nd, 2021 - 07:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    “Who submitted loads of evidence and proof”

    Of which you conspicuously are unable provide any.

    “The trial against Lula is politically motivated and based on flimsy evidence, argues Germany’s former justice minister…That counts for little in Brazil, where even senior judges spoke out against Lula before he had actually been found guilty. Despite claiming ‘judicial independence’, they have undermined the principle of rule of law enshrined in Brazil’s constitution.”
    https ://soslula. org/2018/01/31/rough-justice-the-trial-against-lula-da-silva-is-politically-motivated-and-based-on-flimsy-evidence-argues-germanys-former-justice-minister/

    “Lula’s conviction rests on the word of an executive, who claims he gave Lula …in return for a contract with …Petrobras. The executive was facing corruption charges …, and made the accusation as part of a plea bargain… no documents linking Lula or his late wife, nor is there any evidence that they ever spent any time there..”
    http ://en. mercopress.com/2018/09/04/bye-bye-lula

    “Brazil’s Democracy Pushed Into the Abyss
    The evidence is far below the standards that would be taken seriously in the US
    https ://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/23/opinion/brazil-lula-democracy-corruption.html
    “There is no evidence that Lula either owned or lived in the triplex at any point. … the court cited no evidence that directly implicated Lula in a quid pro quo with OAS. Instead, it argued that because it is known that OAS was taking kickbacks from Petrobras, and Lula was the sitting president at the time, it is reasonable to infer that he was aware and complicit. This is, needless to say, not sufficient evidence to convict someone beyond a reasonable doubt. And indeed, according to several analysts, no European or American court would have ruled to convict based on the evidence presented”
    http://www.brownpoliticalreview.org/2018/03/brazils-democratic-woes-anti-elitism-reemergence-illiberalism/

    Dec 02nd, 2021 - 09:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    Lula is back! Brazil is back!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4JJh0lbYHU&t=12s

    Dec 03rd, 2021 - 10:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    Skippy F*ckwitt, aka Terence 'clagnut' Hill

    “Of which you conspicuously are unable provide any”

    I won't now, but I did back then...just a few : links of sites where you could consult e-mails between Lulla's cronies and the CEOs from the contractors (OAS) which took over the completion of the 'tripekis'...

    The expensive improvements made at the country house in Atibaia...

    The photos of Lulla (plus his wife, 'n son) talking to the CEOs on the properties during the reforms....all the receipts of payments (some huge, 'n in cash) made by the contractors to benefit Lulla, and never reimbursed...and the list goes on and on..

    The land ''donated'' by Odebrecht to build the Instituto Lula.....

    The flat next door to his in the Condo in SBCampo, and the sets of fake rental receipts - why 2 sets ? because the first was fake, as was the second....

    Lulla's claim that the properties he used - as his own, but in the name of front-men - all belonged to “a good friend of mine”, does not 'stick' (“conversa p'ra boi dormir”).

    The R$ 300 million (US$ 100 million at the time) given to Lulla (on his last day in office) by Emilio Odebrecht, for the former's personal use, kept in a special account within Odebrecht's bribe department....just a wee token of gratitude, nothing else....why ?

    Unless I'm mistaken, corruption usually involves two parties, the corruptor and the corrupted - in this case, OAS/Odebrecht, and Lulla - but I can't help it if you are too bloody stupid to understand it or if your head is up Lulla's arse.....

    You dismissed the dozens of depositions given by the many whistle blowers (which you never watched), 1st because you don't understand Portuguese and 2nd, because you rely on pro-Lulla sites to get your info.

    But the question remains, why believe whistleblower John Kiriakou, and not those that testified against Lulla (and confessed /were punished for their crimes) ?

    You can't answer that (honestly), can you ?

    Dec 03rd, 2021 - 05:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    “aka Terence 'clagnut' Hill”

    “Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery that mediocrity can pay to greatness.”― Oscar Wilde

    “I won't now, but I did back then …”
    “An assertion is a statement offered as a conclusion without supporting evidence. Since an argument is defined as a logical relationship between premise and conclusion, a simple assertion is not an argument.”
    Ignoring the Burden of Proof http ://learn.lexiconic.net/fallacies/index.htm

    “In other words, no morals, no sound principles,”
    That’s you down to the T.

    “So that the 9-fingered toad”
    “Dehumanising our opponents is the first step to genocide ...
    It is a recognition that horrors like this happen when one part of the population dehumanises another - dehumanisation being the most important prerequisite to any genocide.
    The 10-stage path to genocide
    4. Dehumanisation
    Those who are perceived as “different” are openly referred to as subhuman or as inhuman conspirators”
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01/27/dehumanising-opponents-first-step-genocide-right-now-every/27 Jan 2017

    Dec 03rd, 2021 - 06:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    Jack Bauer
    Yes, I fear you are right. However his is the absolute text book case of how the Dunning-Kruger effect works. He is convinced he is ‘clever’, everyone else thinks he’s a blithering idiot.

    Terry F*uckwitt
    ‘When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.’

    And you certainly lose the 'Dunning-Kruger effect' debate.

    Brasshole
    You purport to be Brazilian, perhaps you could clear something up???

    Skippy F*ckwitt, aka Terence 'clagnut' Hill posting here, claims the following about Brazilian toilet habits:

    https://en.mercopress.com/2020/10/17/brazilian-senator-close-ally-of-bolsonaro-forced-to-resign-over-hidden-cash/comments#comment512332

    So, where do you put your Toilet Paper? Bathroom Bins???

    Dec 04th, 2021 - 02:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    Pugol, the ingratiator, camp follower, perpetual loser, and clinker.
    I guess when you’re a clinker, your whole world consists of nothing but excrement.

    Dec 04th, 2021 - 07:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    clarifying

    https://www.correiodobrasil.com.br/lula-bate-recorde-audiencia-live-avisa-moro-processado/

    Dec 04th, 2021 - 09:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    Terry Clagnut Hill

    “Ignoring the Burden of Proof http ://learn.lexiconic.net/fallacies/index.htm”
    Really ???????

    Stop lying you clagnut......own up to the fact that you are the one who systematically ignores any proof.......okay, okay, I know it was a shock to you to realize your idol - Lulla - was an ignorant, corrupt idiot.....but he WILL go down in history as the turd who, with the help of Dilma, almost broke Brazil....I know Brazil runs the risk of having him as president again, because - unfortunately - his voters are ignorant, have a short memory, and Bolsonaro is doing a good job of showing what an idiot he is...

    Nevertheless, doesn't and won't affect me much, just the ignorant, like himself....one of whom, above, proves my point.

    Dec 04th, 2021 - 10:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    Lula and Dilma paid ALL of Brazil's foreign debt, made Brazil the third largest creditor of the United States' debt, turned Brazil into the sixth largest economy in the world (overcoming England), removed Brazil from the hunger map, achieved full employment , left 380 billion dollars in foreign exchange reserves and lent 15 billion dollars to the IMF.

    I want Lula to continue to break Brazil.

    kkkkkkk

    Dec 05th, 2021 - 11:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    Brasileiro, aka Brasshole

    “....Brazil the 3rd largest creditor of the U.S. debt....”

    Oh, really ? who fed you that bullsh*it ? never happened.

    ”....turned Brazil into the 6th largest economy in the world (overcoming England)..”

    Not really - what really happened, in 2011 - something you should know, but obviously don't - is that Europe, by the beginning 2009, was going into recession as a result of the US's financial crisis of 2008 ; so, as a result of the recession in Europe, 2 years later, Brazil's GDP surpassed the UK's - but only because the UK GDP dropped, not because Brazil's had grown.

    And just fyi, that situation didn't last long. In 2015, (thanks to your heroine, Dilma), Brazil had already fallen to 8th place, again behind the UK.....but the sad news does not end there - today, the UK is 6th in the world ranking and Brazil is 9th. You should really do your homework before spreading fake news.

    “...removed Brazil from the hunger map...”....What ?? D'you mean you believe the crap about “tirou 40 milhões da pobreza” ? the Bolsa familia stopped them from going hungry, but was very far from “removing them, or Brazil, from the hunger map”.

    But don't worry, if he wins, Lula WILL break Brazil, just like Dilma in 2014

    Hope you are not too thick to understand what I am going to tell you......Yes. Lula (not Dilma) paid Brazil's foreign debt...How ? by buying the debt with a loan obtained from the Brazilian banking system, so, in effect he swapped a foreign debt for a domestic one.

    And the advantage ? None whatsoever, as in fact, looking it from a financial aspect it was extremely prejudicial to Brazil, - he exchanged the foreign debt, paying about 4% interest per annum, for a domestic one paying more than 15% per annum....but he didn't care ? It was just another populist move, made to fool people like you. Think about it before you reply....“if” you can.

    Brasshole, time has gone by, but you continue just as ignorant.

    Dec 05th, 2021 - 10:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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