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The “Expulsion Myth” – Argentina’s Greatest Historical Falsehood

Tuesday, January 4th 2022 - 05:44 UTC
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Falkland Islands Association - Britain did not expel an Argentine population in January 1833 when Britain re-asserted its sovereignty in the Falklands. But no piece of Argentine propaganda has been more successful than its falsehood that Britain expelled an “Argentine population”. Read full article

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  • José Malvinero

    “THE MALVINAS ARE ARGENTINE, and this is the list of Spanish and Argentine governors until piratical usurpation of 1833:
    SPANISH
    1767-1773 F. Ruiz Puente
    1773-1774 D. Chauri
    1774-1777 F. Gil y Lemos y Taboada
    1777-1779 R. Carassa y Souza
    1779-1781 S. de Medina y Juan
    1781-1783 J. M. del Carmen Altolaguirre
    1783-1784 F. D. Montemayor
    1784-1785 A. de Figueroa
    1785-1786 R. de Clairac y Villalonga
    1786-1787 P. de Mesa y Castro
    1787-1788 R. de Clairac y Villalonga
    1788-1789 P. de Mesa y Castro
    1789-1790 R. de Clairac y Villalonga
    1790-1791 J. J. de Elizalde y Ustariz
    1791-1792 P. P. Sanguineto
    1792-1793 J. J. de Elizalde y Ustariz
    1793-1794 P. P. Sanguineto
    1794-1795 J. de Aldana y Ortega
    1795-1796 P. P. Sanguineto
    1796-1797 J. de Aldana y Ortega
    1797-1798 L. de Medina y Torres
    1798-1799 F. X. de Viana y Alzaibar
    1799-1800 L. de Medina y Torres
    1800-1801 F. X. de Viana y Alzaibar
    1801-1802 R. Fernández de Villegas
    1802-1803 B. de Bonavía
    1803-1804 A. L. de Ibarra y Oxinando
    1804-1805 B. de Bonavía
    1805-1806 A. L. de Ibarra y Oxinando
    1806-1808 B. de Bonavía
    1809-1810 G. Bondas
    1810-1811 P. G. Martínez
    After the emancipation of America, by the principle uti possidetis juris, the emancipated countries inherit, of course, the limits that had its pre-emancipation, including the Malvinas Islands
    ARGENTINES
    1820-1821 D. Jewett
    1821-1821 W. Mason
    1824-1824 P. Areguatí
    1829-1832 L. Vernet
    1832-1832 J. F. Mestivier
    1832-1833 J. M. Pinedo
    During all these years (66) there was no complaint from any country.
    THE MALVINAS ARE ARGENTINE FOREVER”

    Jan 04th, 2022 - 09:54 am - Link - Report abuse -9
  • Steve Potts

    Malvinero

    'After the emancipation of America, by the principle uti possidetis juris, the emancipated countries inherit, of course, the limits that had its pre-emancipation, including the Malvinas Islands'


    It is worth noting that Argentina did not inherit the Falklands from Spain. Why Argentina did not inherit the Falkland Islands from Spain (1 pg): https://www.academia.edu/44496176/Argentina_did_not_inherit_the_Falkland_Islands_from_Spain

    Jan 04th, 2022 - 11:04 am - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Dirk Dikkler

    @Jose Malvinero, Nice to see that You read the article and then disregarded everything You read !!!!
    Try putting up some real evidence for a change rather than a long list of non-active & non-relevant governors.

    Jan 04th, 2022 - 11:31 am - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Judge Jose

    Over to Roger Lorton to again explain to the indoctrinated and brainwashed,

    Jan 04th, 2022 - 11:37 am - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Falklands-Free

    Argentines wont like that article because it details accurately just what happened in that time period.
    Argentina has distorted every piece of fact into a fictional desire of myths.
    They have been so indoctrinated their mind set is only that of what they have been brainwashed to believe.
    It is one of the clearest pieces of evidance published, exposing the Argentine myth.
    Now we see just why they wont take the claim to the international courts of justice. It's a case they simply cannot win.
    That explains why they are pushing out so much mythical propaganda. They have nothing else to back them up.
    They even invent new myths to try and strengthen their case.
    A desperate country that today is far more dangerous to it's own people than those of the Islands.
    As for the list of supposed governors, that is still going on today.every year they appoint a new governor and an office all in Douth America which many of the local islanders get much amusement from.all mythical governors who are part of Argentinas continued indoctrination.
    One has to feel for the innocent children of Argentina who are being subjected to this evil indoctrinating.
    Has to be surely a concern for basic human rights.

    Jan 04th, 2022 - 11:57 am - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Roger Lorton

    Falkland Islands? British since 1765.

    https://falklandstimeline.files.wordpress.com/2020/03/falkland-wars-1700-1850-1.pdf

    Jan 04th, 2022 - 12:50 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Terence Hill

    After the emancipation of America, by the principle uti possidetis juris,” Is simply not applicable.
    Was at best not applied until 1848 in ”Determining Boundaries in a Conflicted World: The Role of Uti Possidetis By Suzanne Lalonde
    “2.4.1 Absence of Uti Possidetis in Constitutions and Treaties
    When in the first decades of the nineteenth century, the Spanish American Republics established themselves as newly independent States in territories of former Spanish America, they proclaimed the uti possidetis principal was the general rule to define their respective titles to territories and boundaries.”

    “The rule of the intertemporal law still insists that an act must be characterized in accordance with the law in force at the time it was done, or closely on the next occasion. ...”
    The Acquisition of Territory in International Law by Robert Yewdall Jennings

    Jan 04th, 2022 - 02:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    What makes you think that the English would have the right to expel a rebellious and criminal garrison?

    The 11th paragraph does not generate trust. There are logical doubts.

    Argentina at that time was a vast territory with a vague sense of state. I believe that England took advantage of the fact that it was a secular empire to appropriate land that did not belong to it. Or there were strong doubts about the legitimacy of the possession.

    The story is told by the winners!

    I personally would like access to the Spanish, French, English and American archives. What Argentina has is insufficient, because, as I said, Argentina, like all of South America, was still an incipient state.

    Jan 04th, 2022 - 03:42 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Dirk Dikkler

    @Brasileiro, Seed`s of Doubt starting to Flourish in Your Mind ! Normally You would have ripped that Story apart But Not this Time, Spanish & French archives are online and available to view.

    Jan 04th, 2022 - 05:13 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • mollymauk

    Brasileiro - you say
    “ Argentina at that time was a vast territory with a vague sense of state. I believe that England took advantage of the fact that it was a secular empire to appropriate land that did not belong to it.”
    In 1833 Argentina did not exist as the country it is today. The Southern border was barely 100 miles South of Buenos Aires, and almost 1000 miles away from the Falklands. The British ordered an illegal, rebellious, and criminal garrison who had only been there for a few months to leave. Meanwhile, some decades later, Argentina took over 1000 miles of territory that did not belong to it, by force, to extend their country to the tip of TdF, by murdering the indigenous inhabitants.

    Jan 04th, 2022 - 06:17 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Terence Hill

    “What makes you think that the English would have the right to …”

    ”Thus, in the Island of Palmas case, decided in 1928, an international tribunal of the Permanent Court of Arbitration at the Hague explicitly recognized the validity of conquest as a mode of acquiring territory when it declared in its decision that:
    “If a dispute arises as to the sovereignty over a portion of territory, it is customary to examine which of the States claiming sovereignty possesses a title— cession conquest, occupation, etc.—superior to that which the other State might possibly bring forward against it. …it must also be shown that the territorial sovereignty has continued to exist and did exist at the moment which for the decision of the dispute must be considered as critical. This demonstration consists in the actual display of State activities, such as belongs only to the territorial sovereign. Titles of acquisition of territorial sovereignty in present-day international law are either based on an act of effective apprehension, such as occupation or conquest, or, like cession, presuppose that the ceding and the cessionary Power or at least one of them, have the faculty of effectively disposing of the ceded territory. …” That the tribunal's decision in this arbitration should have admitted conquest as a valid mode by which a state could establish a legal title to territory is not surprising. For conquest was clearly recognized by states as a valid mode of acquisition of territory, “…is supported by quotations from Vattel and Wheaton, who both admit prescription founded on length of time as a valid and incontestable title…that the continuous and peaceful display of territorial sovereignty (peaceful in relation to other States) is as good as a title…
    10 Island of Palmas case (Netherlands v. USA) (1928), RIAA 2 (1949),ß

    Jan 04th, 2022 - 08:22 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Tænk

    For itsy-bitsy Merco/PenguinPress...
    http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/20220104/22013d6d32394208b91a1fc9a05a8cff/c.html
    Chuckle..., chuckle...

    (Xinhua News Agency, or New China News Agency, is the official state press agency of the People's Republic of China.
    Xinhua is the largest and most influential media organization in China, as well as the largest news agency as measured by the number of worldwide correspondents.
    Xinhua is a ministry-level institution subordinate to the State Council and is the highest ranking state media organ in the country alongside the People's Daily.
    He Ping, President of Xinhua, is a member of the Central Committee of the Chinese Communist Party.)
    Capisce...?

    Jan 04th, 2022 - 09:40 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Roger Lorton

    Relying on China, Tunk?
    They will not go to war for Argentina, so all you have is hot air.
    Chuckle,... chuckle...

    As for 1833, it would seem that Buenos Aires was acting beyond its powers, and did not represent the Confederation in its actions over the Falklands. At least, that's what the Argie Senate concluded in 1882 when they declined to compensate the Vernet family.

    https://falklandstimeline.files.wordpress.com/2018/01/senadoargentina-sesion18820729.pdf

    Jan 04th, 2022 - 10:55 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Tim Huber

    Tænk .. do not soil intellectual discourse by referencing a Third World sensationalist rag like the Xinhua Press ...

    Jan 04th, 2022 - 11:14 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Terence Hill

    “The United Nations General Assembly adopted …”
    Superseded in 1970 by:

    “..It is therefore not surprising that the General Assembly declared in 1970 that the modem prohibition against the acquisition of territory by conquest should not be construed as affecting titles to territory created 'prior to the Charter regime and valid under international law'..”
    Akehursts Modern Introduction to International Law, Peter Malanczuk

    Jan 04th, 2022 - 11:25 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Tænk

    No surprises here...

    “Mutineers”..., “murderers”..., “rampagers”..., “criminals”... etc, etc, etc...

    Epithets used in the above Engrish article to define us Argies in 1833 Malvinas ...

    Epithets used by them Engrish for more than 500 years to define any inferior people that dares defy their Imperial Haughtiness...

    Be it Jocks..., Paddies or Taffies...
    Zulus... Kikuyus..., Chinks..., Sandniggas or Abos...

    The haugthiest Engrishman once called Mahātmā a “half-naked seditious fakir”...
    Some seventeen years after..., as so many others..., he was ... -“Taken out of the Picture”- ...

    Speaking 'bout Bapu..., Lorton laddie...
    The other day..., when checking the “James Webb”..., Google sugested me this other “Webb”...:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U6cake3bwnY&t=29s

    Funny..., don't you tænk...?

    Jan 04th, 2022 - 11:49 pm - Link - Report abuse -4
  • Roger Lorton

    Be superior Tunk ....... take it to a court.

    The ICJ is just waiting for Argentina to set the question. Although, apparently, Argentina's newest nomination for a judges seat at the ICJ appears to have told CFK that an approach to that court over the Falklands would be unwise.

    Funny .... don't you ... oh no, you don't.

    Jan 05th, 2022 - 01:15 am - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Tænk

    Laddie...

    -“Take to a Court”-..., you say...

    And what “Court” would that be..., copper..?

    The ICJ that is just waiting for the Brutish to comply with its 2017 ruling on Chagos...?

    An Engrish Court that disrespects even Engrish Law as just evidenced in the Assange case...?

    Good thing you Brutish left the EU though...!
    - Now you all brainwashed Bruts can continue rejoicing with BoJo about your successful Covid 19 vaccination campaign and the return of the Brutish Imperial Crown to Brutish pint glasses....

    Capisce...?

    Jan 05th, 2022 - 04:54 am - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Roger Lorton

    Excuses, excuses, excuses...... Think of the moral victory if Argentina won at the ICJ, Tunk?. Something to shout about, no?

    Never much bothered about the picture on a glass Tunk, just as long as it didn't leak.

    Jan 05th, 2022 - 11:19 am - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Tænk

    Copper...

    -”Never much bothered about the picture (crown) on a glass.”- ..., you say...

    BoJo wouldn't approve..., you..., you bruturning remainer...! I say...
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/dec/31/boris-johnson-crowns-pint-glasses-key-brexit-success

    Chuckle..., chuckle...

    Jan 05th, 2022 - 11:39 am - Link - Report abuse -4
  • Swede

    @Tænk: “He Ping, President of Xinhua, is a member of the Central Committee of the Chinese Communist Party.” Does that really make Xinhua more trustworthy? Of course not, on the contrary. Ruling Communist Parties have never been the source of truth. Or have they? No, they can say whatever fits their interests, because nobody (in their respective countries) dare to oppose it. The rule by fear. And then people are not afraid anymore they collapse like the USSR or the GDR.

    Jan 05th, 2022 - 11:49 am - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Terence Hill

    “The ICJ that is just waiting”

    They will wait along time, as the UK has rejected their jurisdiction in the matter, as is their right.

    “Although the majority decision by the international court of justice in The Hague is only advisory”
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/feb/25/un-court-rejects-uk-claim-to-sovereignty-over-chagos-islands

    Jan 05th, 2022 - 12:51 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Tænk

    For itsy-bitsy Merco/PenguinPress...
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1eFNjty2VFs
    Russian luuuuuuuuuuuuuv their hildren too... (Sting ;-)

    Capisce...?

    Jan 05th, 2022 - 04:36 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Roger Lorton

    Terry Hill - an advisory opinion by the ICJ regarding the Chagos was just that - advisory.

    The UK has not rejected ICJ jurisdiction regarding any Falklands application by Argentina, because there hasn't been one.

    Still not convinced that Tunk is the old Think. Lacks his old finesse.

    Jan 05th, 2022 - 11:15 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Pugol-H

    José Malvinero

    As the Islands have been British since 1765 and you cannot have a Spanish or Argentinian governor of British territory, what you have is a ‘mythical list’ to go with your ‘Expulsion Myth’.

    You probably think you own some Antarctic territory as well.

    Disappointment is part of life.

    Jan 05th, 2022 - 11:22 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Tænk

    For itsy-bitsy Merco/PenguinPress...

    You Kelper lads are cordially invited to any of the below agended activities...
    We haven't though..., invited South Atlantic Medal awarded Prince Andrew..., have you...?

    https://www.argentina.gob.ar/malvinas-nos-une/agenda-malvinas-40-anos

    Chuckle..., chuckle...

    Jan 06th, 2022 - 08:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    “The UK has not rejected ICJ jurisdiction regarding any Falklands application by Argentina”

    I have addressed Think’s contention concerning Chagas, specifically.

    Jan 06th, 2022 - 09:18 am - Link - Report abuse -1
  • José Malvinero

    The MALVINAS Islands are Argentine and pirates have always known it:
    “It is not at all clear to me that we ever had sovereignty over those islands”, Duke of Wellington, Prime Minister, 1829.
    “The British occupation of 1833 was at the time an act of wanton aggression”, Memorandum of the British Foreign Office official, 1946.
    “The only question was who had the best claim as we are attaching for the first time the islands. I think undoubtedly were the United Provinces of Buenos Aires”, Ronald Campbell, secretary of foreign affairs, 1911.
    “Sitting down hard on the islands and avoid talking to the Argentines, because we could not sustain our arguments in court”, legal counsel for the Foreign Office, Gerald Fitzmaurice, 1936.
    “Britain fully recognizes the sovereignty of the Argentine public authorities on the territories in which proclaim their jurisdiction...”, Treaty of Peace, Friendship and Trade between Argentina and Great Britain, 1825, (after the Argentina take possession, 1820).
    “If you carefully read the memorandum of December 1910, surely must have realized that Argentina's attitude is not ridiculous or childish. I had assumed that our right to the Malvinas Islands was irrefutable. This is far from being the case”, Sir Malcolm Robertson, ambassador to Argentina, 1927.
    “While the Committee believes that the historical evidence is finely balanced, we are forced to conclude that the weight of evidence argues for the position of Argentine bonds to the islands, at least the eastern islands, which was, while the British occupation in 1833, more substance than it was or is accepted by government officials in the UK. In this conclusion we are supported not only by the evidence we were given during the investigation but also by doubts on this matter were repeatedly expressed by British officials during the early part of the century”, Committee on Foreign Affairs of the House of Commons, in 1982.

    Jan 06th, 2022 - 10:53 am - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Terence Hill

    “The MALVINAS Islands are Argentine”

    “UN Charter; DECLARATION REGARDING NON-SELF-GOVERNING TERRITORIES; Article 73; Members of the United Nations which have or assume responsibilities for ..peoples have not yet attained .. self-government recognize the principle ..b. to develop self-government, ...” October 16th,1975
    The ICJ presents its advisory opinion on two questions concerning Western Sahara; “The validity of the principle of self-determination, defined as the need to pay regard to the freely expressed will of peoples, ...” The Court also states; “The Charter of the United Nations, in Article 1, paragraph 2, indicates, as one of the purposes of the United Nations: “To develop friendly relations among nations based on ...the principle of equal rights and self-determination of peoples . .” This purpose is further developed in Articles 55 and 56 of the Charter. ...the subsequent development of international law in regard to non-self-governing territories, as enshrined in the Charter of the United Nations, made the principle of self-determination applicable to all of them”
    Judge Dillard, .. adds; “ .. it is for the people to determine the destiny of the territory and not the territory the destiny of the people.”

    Jan 06th, 2022 - 11:45 am - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Roger Lorton

    As you cannot even quote Wellington correctly, Jose, I really cannot be bothered to deal with the rest.

    Buenos Aires was acting outside its powers in the 1820s. Not representing the Confederation. Go read what your Senate said in 1882.

    https://falklandstimeline.files.wordpress.com/2018/01/senadoargentina-sesion18820729.pdf

    Jan 07th, 2022 - 05:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    “Sitting down hard on the islands and avoid talking to the Argentines, because we could not sustain our arguments in court”, legal counsel for the Foreign Office, Gerald Fitzmaurice,

    If he had said that it is your burden to prove it. No proof, no truth.
    Here are his own words on the very issue:

    “Where a State fails to lodge effective protests, which in the present era ought, if
    necessary, to include instituting international judicial or arbitral proceedings, against
    attempts at wrongful usurpation into sovereign territory, that …failure to protest,
    where a protest is called for, must have a detrimental effect on the position of the
    party concerned and may afford evidence of non-existence of title.” 92
    92 Gerald Fitzmaurice, The Law and Procedure of the International Court of Justice, Vol.1 (1995), 299.
    Sir Gerald Gray Fitzmaurice GCMG QC (24 October 1901 – 7 September 1982) was a British barrister and judge. He was a member of the Permanent Court of Arbitration between 1964 and 1973 and a Senior Judge of the International Court of Justice between 1967 and 1973.
    “A State which has ceased to exercise any authority over a territory cannot, by purely verbal protestations, indefinitely maintain its title against another which for a sufficiently long time has

    Jan 07th, 2022 - 08:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tænk

    Hmmmmm....

    Interesting that... Engrish Independent News Agency PenguinPress that..., in their About MercoPress“ section..., solemnly states to be...:

    - ”“”...MercoPress is an independent news agency started in 1993 which focuses on delivering news related to the MERCOSUR trade and political bloc, and member countries...“”“

    ... - Doesn't report about the last official communiqué from the very MERCOSUR TRADE & POLITICAL BLOC..., whom they declare to be ”focused on...:

    https://www.mercosur.int/a-189-anos-de-la-ocupacion-ilegal-de-las-islas-malvinas/

    Capisce...?

    Jan 07th, 2022 - 12:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    ”Sitting down hard on the islands …”

    “A State which has ceased to exercise any authority over a territory cannot, by purely verbal protestations, indefinitely maintain its title against another which for a sufficiently long time has effectively exercised the powers and fulfilled the duties of sovereignty in it.'' (Theory and Reality in International Law, de Visscher, 1957, p201).

    Jan 07th, 2022 - 01:34 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Falklands-Free

    Terrance Hill.
    Why are you so condemning of the right of freedom of choice.
    There is no point in Britain talking sovereignty with Argentina because first they represent us the islanders and we have already made it abundantly clear we want to remain a British overseas territory.
    Also that any possibility of entering into any talks with Argentina is futile because Argentina is making it very clear they wont accept anything less than sovereignty.
    So ask yourself this. Would you like your rights of choice to be taken away from you.
    That is effectively what Argentina wants.
    We tried being open with Argentina during the sixties and seventies and Argentina betrayed that trust by invading.
    That clearly demonstrated their intentions. To remove a people and colonise the islands themselves, because in truth that is exactly what Argentina will be doing colonising the islands over a resident people.
    How do you propose to not colonise the islands and how would you handle that argument in the UN.
    You would be treated exactly the same way as you are treating us.
    What would you do if we islanders or indeed Britain were to remove you from your home. Bet you would put up a vicious fight wouldn't you.
    Works both ways.
    Now is the time to stop this nonsense and let us islanders live the lives of our choosing as already enshrined in the UN charter.

    Jan 07th, 2022 - 03:04 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Terence Hill

    “Why are you so condemning of the right of freedom of choice”

    On the contrary, I’m refuting the claims of José Malvinero.
    Are you on drugs?

    Jan 07th, 2022 - 05:02 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Tænk

    Reading Brutish news recently..., it striked me the slight difference between Engrish and Argie mentality and sense of justice..................

    - Whilst THE WHOLE of the 1982 Argie Military Junta (responsible for the injustifiable South Atlantic Conflict, in which 253 British people lost their life)..., all ended their days as impoverished..., demoted..., dishonored..., ostracized and/or imprisoned individuals...

    - The former Brutish PM..., Lowlander Sassenach Anthony Charles Lynton Bliar (responsible for the injustifiable Brutish participation in the Iraq War, in which 182 British people lost their life)..., enjoys life as a multimillionaire..., most recently knighted as a Companion of the Most Noble Order of the Garter...

    Capisce...?

    Jan 07th, 2022 - 05:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Zaczac121

    The ICJ threw out the case against Blair, that’s why he hasn’t been tried and found guilty… Many have tried sadge

    Jan 07th, 2022 - 08:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tænk

    Tænking 'bout some other “small divergencies” between Argie and Engrish mentality and sense of justice that render communication between us a tad difficult...

    - It comes to mind that “Unipersonal Engrish Friendship Extradition Episode” of 1998 that did cost some 15.000.000 Chileans about 20 more years of misery...
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TAS7FjwUqRY
    - No wonder the newly elected Chilean President is convinced that “Las Malvinas son Argentinas”...

    And don't get me started about that currently ongoing -“Unipersonal Engrish Friendship Extradition Episode”- called “Julian Assange”...

    Capisce...?

    Jan 07th, 2022 - 08:59 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Brasileiro

    The Assange case will still greatly embarrass the Five Eyes.

    Julian Assange is already considered the greatest hero of this century by many peoples of the world.

    It seems that English Civilization has become Mankind's greatest enemy.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqNlPQScIwI&list=FLmXPTu1f8AdGlizWNiASx2A&index=6

    Jan 07th, 2022 - 11:18 pm - Link - Report abuse -4
  • Lesterburnham

    'It seems that English Civilization has become Mankind's greatest enemy.'

    Please read a book, ANY book

    Jan 08th, 2022 - 03:45 am - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Roger Lorton

    “Julian Assange is already considered the greatest hero of this century by many peoples of the world.”

    I doubt that 90% of the world have ever heard of him.

    Jan 08th, 2022 - 07:26 am - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Tænk

    Dear Brasileiro...

    You say above..:
    - “”“It seems that English Civilization has become Mankind's greatest enemy.”“” -

    Allow me to contribute...:
    - It certainly seems that the current mongrel “White British” population..., directly descended from Continental Europe's Proto-Germanic ethnic groups ranging from the Hallststt Celts of the south to the Angles & Saxons of the north (including, of course, their Viking and Norman offsprings...) have indeed become an aggressive nuisance...

    - IMHO..., the present day “White Anglosphere”..., comprised by the United States, United Kingdom, Canada, Australia and New Zealand are evidently a risk factor for humanity and in deer in need of overseeing...

    Capisce...?

    Jan 08th, 2022 - 07:43 am - Link - Report abuse -5
  • Roger Lorton

    “...and in deer in need ...”?
    And you claim to be Thunk?
    Risible

    Jan 08th, 2022 - 01:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tænk

    Copper..., you grammar ....

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qmVnr7rsWrE

    Capisce...?

    Jan 08th, 2022 - 01:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Zaczac121

    Ah yes, England not the United Kingdom, is mankind’s greatest enemy… Let’s just forget about the countries committing genocide like China, destroying freedom of speech… Like China, bullying other countries… Like China does…

    Wait there’s a theme here.

    Anyway people not history dictate sovereignty, and since the Falklander population has lived on the islands for centuries with no previously established population before that, it is the islander’s right to choose their allegiance.

    Jan 08th, 2022 - 08:20 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Tænk

    By the way..., me “deer” copper...

    You ask me above..:
    - “”“ And you claim to be Thunk? ”“” -

    I say...:
    Do I...?
    Did I...?
    When...?
    Where...?
    I tænker that your memory is becoming as unreliable as your Malvinas Timeline..., laddie..

    Capisce...?

    Jan 08th, 2022 - 08:45 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Roger Lorton

    Tunk

    Please indicate where you THINK that the Falklands Timeline is unreliable.

    https://falklandstimeline.wordpress.com/

    Jan 09th, 2022 - 05:34 am - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Tænk

    “” I'm always that one step ahead of you.“” ..., copper...

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XQrOjvClI2o

    Chuckle..., chuckle...

    Capisce...?

    Jan 09th, 2022 - 07:48 am - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Brasileiro

    Zaczac121

    It wasn't China that invaded Iraq! It wasn't China that destroyed Libya! It is not China that is destroying Syria, Ukraine!

    It is not Chinese provocateurs and spies who are trying to destroy Kazakhstan.

    English Civilization has murdered more human beings in the last 20 years than China in its entire history.

    Jan 09th, 2022 - 10:33 am - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Judge Jose

    Bras, China killed millions of its own people in the commie revolution , Russia and a Syrian despotic goverment killed millions in Syria, jeez, you are blinded,
    and what about your ancestors killing off the true owners of South America,

    Jan 09th, 2022 - 10:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    The indigenous population of North America was completely murdered by English Civilization: 50 million human beings (including Mayans and Aztecs).

    To give you an idea, there were 10 million Indians in South America in 1492.

    I don't want this to become a game of who killed the most. My interest is to show that the English Civilization is responsible for a true extermination of human beings today.

    Jan 09th, 2022 - 12:18 pm - Link - Report abuse -4
  • Judge Jose

    Bras, All countries make bad mistakes, the English as you say were no worse than anyone else, drop the propaganda hatred,

    Jan 09th, 2022 - 12:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    “ … including Mayans and Aztecs”

    All from their forward bases in British Guiana and the Falklands? That’s absolutely unbelievable.

    Jan 09th, 2022 - 03:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tænk

    Please educate yourself me foolish AI* sockpuppet just above...
    *(In sockpuppetTerence Hill case..., “AI” does NOT stand for Artificial Intelligence..., btw...)

    All from their forward Engrish pirate bases in British Honduras and the Miskitu Kingdom..., AAMOF...
    Many Mayans and some 70 other indigenous ethnies were massacred from there...

    Capisce...?

    Jan 09th, 2022 - 04:32 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Pugol-H

    Free Amazonia/Patagonia, arm the Indians, and expel the genocidal, thieving, implanted Creole Spanish/Portuguese imperialists, raping and destroying the land.

    One Kurepi Planter, one bullet.

    Lesterburnham
    The only book he has, he is still colouring in.

    Jan 09th, 2022 - 04:56 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Brasileiro

    México is also part of North América, so I mentioned Mayana and Aztecs. Although several Aztec ethnic subgroups were decimated in Texas, New México, Califórnia, Colorado, Arizona and Nevada after 1848.

    Jan 09th, 2022 - 05:26 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Terence Hill

    “México is also part of North América”
    and virtually Gringo-less.
    While you have just revealed your most striking attribute.

    Jan 09th, 2022 - 05:39 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Tænk

    Soooo... ya brainwashed Engrish Turnips...

    Put ya' monies were you mouth is...

    Sign up...!

    https://www.change.org/p/the-prime-minister-tony-blair-to-have-his-knight-companion-of-the-most-noble-order-of-the-garter-rescinded

    Capisce...?

    Jan 09th, 2022 - 07:58 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Terence Hill

    Yeah pirates, may well do what pirates do. But, unlike Argentina genocide it was not ever official policy. Which is why the indigenous peoples largely supported the British in the War of I812.
    People in glass-houses shouldn't throw stones, meanwhile at the same time.

    ”At the end of the colonial period, Blacks constituted approximately a third of the urban population. According to the census of 1887 and the opinions of contemporary observers, the urban Black population declined numerically to roughly half its colonial size and fell to an inconsequential 2 percent of total population by the end of the century. How did the Black population of Buenos Aires disappear?
    It is widely reported that president of Argentina from 1868 to 1874, Domingo Faustino Sarmiento, undertook a ‘covert genocide’ that wiped out the Afro-Argentinean population to the point that by 1875, there were so little Black people left in Argentina that the government didn’t even bother registering African-descendants in the national census.
    https://afropunk.com/2018/07/argentinas-black-population-has-been-systematically-erased-removed-in-whitewashing-effort/ 1812.

    Jan 09th, 2022 - 10:11 pm - Link - Report abuse -1

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