The Falkland Islands Government has announced the appointment of Superintendent Michael Luke as Chief of Police within the Royal Falkland Islands Police (RFIP). Read full article
How many police officers are there in the Falklands? Three? Four? Is there really any serious crime in such a small, close-knit community of barely 3,000 people?
There probably was even less crime in St Helena so this is a step up for Mr Luke.
I wonder what his salary will be for this cushy number?
Main problems - sort out a couple of bar fights at The Globe and The Victory or rounding up an itinerant Korean or Chinese seaman.
It`s all about getting the right Qualified People to do the Job ! You are right about the Levels of Crime on the Falklands being Very Low But Prevention is Always preferred rather than reaction to an incident.
None of Argentina's business. This person is recruited, employed and payed by the local government of the islands. They have the sole right to decide who they find qualified for this position.
It is my business. I consider the islands argentines, you like it or not. Your nation refuse to negotiate and mantain the territory under a colonial situation.
It is funny that you consider that Malvinas is self governed while 100% of the public servant were born in the other side in the world, more specifically in Britain. While Britain that splitted the colony of Chagos in half now do not recognize any self determination right to its inhabitants. Same in Hong Kong.
Do you recognize a self determination right to the people of Crimea for example?. Yes? No? Why?.
Lortonton, i made a personal question. And it is valid for you too and has nothing to do with the UN or the NSGT. Will you respond properly?. Or you are gonna make another question to my question?.
About the ethnic make-up of the Islanders, it is not a proper response. You are assuming that they are a british so they hire british?. You have there a population of 97% of british origins administered by a colonial regime composed by a 100% by people born in Britain.
Now you think they are a different people from the rest in the UK, becouse there are more than 60 nationalities and blah blah blah. The fact doesnt change. I dont see Uruguay for instance hiring Spanish to administer them. And i dont see a population of 97% of spanish origins in Uruguay either.
It is one of two options. Or they were a colony these 200 years that did not allowed any non british inmigration or they really hated latinamericans.
You can choose both if you like.
Pugol-H, you do not underestand my point. It is not me who cares the origins of the people to take a job. It is them/you who cares the origins of the people that takes that job. The same with inmigration, security,etc.
Oh we are all affected for everything these days. Specially you guys that have a colony here where you claim self determination rights but do not support that same right to the chagossian or the crimeans or the people in Hong Kong, etc. I thought by your logic of self determination you were gonna be on the russian side on this war. But no, they are the axis of evil.
I still wonder when are you gonna judge Blair and all the psychopaths that invaded Iraq, killing millons of innocent lives in the process saying they had weapons of mass destruction to be later claiming it was an intelligence agency error.
The lights are still on in Ukraine. It was not the same in Iraq. And it was nobody condemned. Cheers.
Libby , every post you write is nothing but waffle, twisted facts and untruths, you continually make yourself look silly. nobody takes you serious any more, you need to grow up.
Liberato
What you need is evidence to support the Argy version of history, then you wouldn’t have to keep diverting to chagossian/crimeans/Hong Kong, etc. When challenged about it.
‘Colony’, inhabitants without rights you mean, able to be dispossessed.
MalviNazi thinking, very Putinesque of you.
Irrespective of any current population’s right to self-determination, the S. Atlantic/Antarctic has been British territory since long before Argentina existed in any form.
At no point have you ever presented so much as a shred of evidence to the contrary, never mind as to when or how it suddenly all became Argentinian.
‘waffle, twisted facts and untruths’, irrelevant to the matter in hand, shall be the reply.
You ask...:
How many police officers are there in the Falklands? Three? Four? Is there really any serious crime in such a small, close-knit community of barely 3,000 people?
I say...:
There are some twentysix (26) active coppers in the Malvinas...
Judge Jose, what are the twisted facts and untruths in what i said?. Not only Argentina considers the islands to be under colonialism but the United Nations too. They keeps them under a process of decolonization. The only one that thinks otherwise its the UK:
Pugol-H, you said: What you need is evidence to support the Argy version of history. We have debated long about the historical events laws, and i have always presented proof. Even using british sources.
1520-, spain discovered the islands. With many many maps describing them in maps in the succesives centuries.
1764 France settled the islands and claim them for its king.
1766 France recognize spanish prior rights and cede the colony.
1770 Spain expell illegal british settlers that went there after the French and formed a settlement in Trinidad Island.
1774- The british left living a plaque.
1774-1811- Spain controlled the whole territory. Patrolling the land and surrounding sea, even forming several settlements in the continent to avoid pirates to come ashore.
1820- Argentina, (that formed the vicerroyalty and got independence from Spain) took offical posession of Malvinas.
1829- the first british protest for the argentine administration without having been there since 1774. So at the distance they thought they could claim a territory discovered, settled, claimed and administered by Spain and later Argentina. 55 years later, in another century.
Correct me if im wrong.
Malvinazi?. You go glory Ukraine!!! and eliminating Russian from all links to the world. Even the world cup. But im more than sure that you enjoyed watching england in the world cup while iraquians had their nation being occupied militarilly by a coward coalition of nations. did you enjoyed the world cup or did you claim glory Iraq!.
Libby, 2 more i missed, indoctrinated and drivel,
Stop trying to claim Spanish history as Argentinian, the breakaway United Provinces inherited NOTHING from Spain,
i will explain one more time ,in simple English that even a child can understand,
The Falklands were recorded and settled by Britain long before you existed, the claim was NEVER given up, so Buenos Aires sent 26 soldiers to a land that was already claimed, they were warned twice not too, and warned again when they landed, the illegal garrison was removed, now has that sunk in yet into your indoctrinated brain, Not every island in the world is inhabited but are still claimed in places like Russia. Canada, the Pacific and even Argentina itself, but no nation sends 26 soldiers to those empty islands and claims them because no one is on them, there is not one shred of evidence that says the islands are Argentinian, if there were you would have gone to the ICJ many years ago, Stop embarrassing yourself with long winded garbage that has nothing to do with the Falklands.
one last time, The islands were recorded and claimed by Britain many years before you existed, any issues between France, Spain and Britain over the islands were settled,
Britains claim was never given up, Roger Lorton ha provided you with massive evidence and still you waffle on, I have wasted enough time responding to your indoctrinated nonsense, the islands belong to the Falkland Islanders and it will remain that way unless they decide otherwise,
Judge Jose, before getting nervious, you should show some evidence first. The only excuse you mention is that the british recorded and settled before Argentina existed as such. But if i go to England and claim it to Argentina, If in 20 years England split its territory in two new nations, does it means i have prior sovereignty rights? I dont think so.
BY international law, the british claim in 1765 has no value. Becouse it was not terra nullius, the british did not showed any interest in keeping the claim for the next 60 years, etc.
You wanna convince people that the islands are self-governed or self-determined, go ahead. But they are not, They are a non self-governing territory under a decolonization process. You are embarrassing yourself contradicting the UN, history and the reality. Not even the USA consider the british the owners of Malvinas. But its me the indoctrinated?. Or is it the United Nations too?, or the US perhaps?.
Britain had nothing to settle with France or Spain. France claimed the islands and settled them before the british, making the british claim null. France recognized prior spanish rights, and Spain controlled the whole area for decades, naming several governors without one single protest of claim on the british part.
Roger Lorton provided me with massive propaganda, not even based on the british official position, like british fishermen adminitering the islands for britain at the same moment the spanish controlled and administer the whole territory. To mention only one myth.
I suggest you do not waste your time and convince the United Nations what You and Lorton thinks so they can delist the islands from the decolonization process. Or even better, convince your greatest ally that the islands are de ire british.
Libby why should i be nervous, your historical account from Argentinas propaganda archives are a complete and utter nonsense, i dont need to produce any more evidence, Roger Lorton has provided you with page after page, just because you dont accept it doesnt make it not true,
you are so indoctrinated that all you quote is drivel, waffle untruths and twisted facts i do not give a flying fart if the USA recognises the Falklands or not, they certainly do not recognise your bogus claim,
when brain washing was being dished out you most certainly was at the front of the queue,
Judge Jose, If you says that the islands self-govern them selves and that they are british, But for the rest of the world gather in the UN considers the islands to be a colony. And to your closest ally considers the territory to be under dispute. Then, the brainwashed its you. It is not what Argentina says about the islands, it is the WORLD that thinks the opposite to what you say.
Im not indoctrinated and most of what i quote are british sources. you fail to specify which quote that i made is not truth or twisted.
Tell me what did i quoted that was not true?.
my sources are from France initially, as i wanted a 2nd opinion, i did my own research.
82 war, Argentine goverment and tv, we are winning the war, we have repulsed the British, we have sunk a carrier, all huge lies,
i fell sorry for you libby, i am sure you are a decent guy, but you have been fed a pack of lies regarding the Falklands from the day you were born,
Brainwashed indoctrinated drivel,wafel, twisted facts and untruths,
go to the ICJ .
Judge Jose, we are winning the war, we have repulsed the British, we have sunk a carrier. These phrases were said by a military dictatorship, 40 years ago, during a WAR!!!!.
It is not something i said, it is not something i quote and it is not something i believe. And it is not the first time a nation lie during a war. In fact, to lie during a war is part of the war itself. It is used to motivate own troops and to atack the morale of the enemy. It is studied in wespoint!!!. Verify it.
I dont think so. Becouse if corruption was the case for militaries taking over democracies, it would imply that militaries imposed transparency and order. That was not the case. The militaries for sure can not take governments without civilian support or international support to exist. I think weak democracies, weak societies, the cold war and being the back yard of the yankis were the ingredients to spread dictatorships all around South America.
We, as argentine, were not culturally prepared to defend democracy as we would now. And its not that we were fascist. Common people did not supported the dictators, we suffered them. and they used Malvinas to avoid being rejected by the whole nation that bravelly started to reveil to the junta exposing its own life. But one thing is for sure, they succeded for a moment becouse the islands were considered by us as part of my nation since the time they were taken in 1833.
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Disclaimer & comment rulesHow many police officers are there in the Falklands? Three? Four? Is there really any serious crime in such a small, close-knit community of barely 3,000 people?
Mar 02nd, 2022 - 11:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0There probably was even less crime in St Helena so this is a step up for Mr Luke.
Mar 02nd, 2022 - 11:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0I wonder what his salary will be for this cushy number?
Main problems - sort out a couple of bar fights at The Globe and The Victory or rounding up an itinerant Korean or Chinese seaman.
It`s all about getting the right Qualified People to do the Job ! You are right about the Levels of Crime on the Falklands being Very Low But Prevention is Always preferred rather than reaction to an incident.
Mar 02nd, 2022 - 11:45 am - Link - Report abuse +2Great, please tell me he did not born in Britain as the rest of the 100% of the members of the colonial regime.
Mar 02nd, 2022 - 02:34 pm - Link - Report abuse -4None of Argentina's business. This person is recruited, employed and payed by the local government of the islands. They have the sole right to decide who they find qualified for this position.
Mar 02nd, 2022 - 08:54 pm - Link - Report abuse +2It is my business. I consider the islands argentines, you like it or not. Your nation refuse to negotiate and mantain the territory under a colonial situation.
Mar 02nd, 2022 - 10:08 pm - Link - Report abuse -4It is funny that you consider that Malvinas is self governed while 100% of the public servant were born in the other side in the world, more specifically in Britain. While Britain that splitted the colony of Chagos in half now do not recognize any self determination right to its inhabitants. Same in Hong Kong.
Do you recognize a self determination right to the people of Crimea for example?. Yes? No? Why?.
Remind me Lobby, when was Crimea listed as a NSGT at the UN?
Mar 02nd, 2022 - 10:15 pm - Link - Report abuse +1As for the ethnic make-up of the Falklanders, there is a new census due, but this was the last one
https://falklandstimeline.files.wordpress.com/2018/01/falkland_islands_census_2016_-_report_without_data_tables.pdf
Lortonton, i made a personal question. And it is valid for you too and has nothing to do with the UN or the NSGT. Will you respond properly?. Or you are gonna make another question to my question?.
Mar 02nd, 2022 - 11:14 pm - Link - Report abuse -3About the ethnic make-up of the Islanders, it is not a proper response. You are assuming that they are a british so they hire british?. You have there a population of 97% of british origins administered by a colonial regime composed by a 100% by people born in Britain.
Now you think they are a different people from the rest in the UK, becouse there are more than 60 nationalities and blah blah blah. The fact doesnt change. I dont see Uruguay for instance hiring Spanish to administer them. And i dont see a population of 97% of spanish origins in Uruguay either.
It is one of two options. Or they were a colony these 200 years that did not allowed any non british inmigration or they really hated latinamericans.
You can choose both if you like.
I understand Cressida Dick may be available!
Mar 02nd, 2022 - 11:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But hey, who cares whether someone is qualified or even capable of doing the Job, check the birth certificate, that’s what is important here.
No point in me applying then.
You get a taste of how things would be run under the Kurepi Planters.
Fatboy Fat Maximo, would probably get the job as Gauleiter of the S. Atlantic territories.
Pugol-H, you do not underestand my point. It is not me who cares the origins of the people to take a job. It is them/you who cares the origins of the people that takes that job. The same with inmigration, security,etc.
Mar 03rd, 2022 - 12:11 am - Link - Report abuse -2If you don’t care, why are you arguing about it?
Mar 03rd, 2022 - 12:41 am - Link - Report abuse +2After all it doesn’t affect you and the Islanders clearly think it’s none of your business?
They have the right to decide their own immigration policy, along with everything else.
Kurepi Planters: Go F*ck Yourselves!!!
Oh we are all affected for everything these days. Specially you guys that have a colony here where you claim self determination rights but do not support that same right to the chagossian or the crimeans or the people in Hong Kong, etc. I thought by your logic of self determination you were gonna be on the russian side on this war. But no, they are the axis of evil.
Mar 03rd, 2022 - 01:05 am - Link - Report abuse -3I still wonder when are you gonna judge Blair and all the psychopaths that invaded Iraq, killing millons of innocent lives in the process saying they had weapons of mass destruction to be later claiming it was an intelligence agency error.
The lights are still on in Ukraine. It was not the same in Iraq. And it was nobody condemned. Cheers.
Libby , every post you write is nothing but waffle, twisted facts and untruths, you continually make yourself look silly. nobody takes you serious any more, you need to grow up.
Mar 03rd, 2022 - 09:39 am - Link - Report abuse +1Liberato
Mar 03rd, 2022 - 12:40 pm - Link - Report abuse +1What you need is evidence to support the Argy version of history, then you wouldn’t have to keep diverting to chagossian/crimeans/Hong Kong, etc. When challenged about it.
‘Colony’, inhabitants without rights you mean, able to be dispossessed.
MalviNazi thinking, very Putinesque of you.
Irrespective of any current population’s right to self-determination, the S. Atlantic/Antarctic has been British territory since long before Argentina existed in any form.
At no point have you ever presented so much as a shred of evidence to the contrary, never mind as to when or how it suddenly all became Argentinian.
‘waffle, twisted facts and untruths’, irrelevant to the matter in hand, shall be the reply.
Mr. Felipe Ordóñez de Rivera...
Mar 03rd, 2022 - 05:16 pm - Link - Report abuse -3You ask...:
How many police officers are there in the Falklands? Three? Four? Is there really any serious crime in such a small, close-knit community of barely 3,000 people?
I say...:
There are some twentysix (26) active coppers in the Malvinas...
Judge Jose, what are the twisted facts and untruths in what i said?. Not only Argentina considers the islands to be under colonialism but the United Nations too. They keeps them under a process of decolonization. The only one that thinks otherwise its the UK:
Mar 03rd, 2022 - 10:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Or is it about what i said about Iraq?.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/wmd-intelligence-was-wrong-admits-blair-1.991214.
Did Blair appologised for the wrong information in this article?.
What is twisted?.
Pugol-H, you said: What you need is evidence to support the Argy version of history. We have debated long about the historical events laws, and i have always presented proof. Even using british sources.
1520-, spain discovered the islands. With many many maps describing them in maps in the succesives centuries.
1764 France settled the islands and claim them for its king.
1766 France recognize spanish prior rights and cede the colony.
1770 Spain expell illegal british settlers that went there after the French and formed a settlement in Trinidad Island.
1774- The british left living a plaque.
1774-1811- Spain controlled the whole territory. Patrolling the land and surrounding sea, even forming several settlements in the continent to avoid pirates to come ashore.
1820- Argentina, (that formed the vicerroyalty and got independence from Spain) took offical posession of Malvinas.
1829- the first british protest for the argentine administration without having been there since 1774. So at the distance they thought they could claim a territory discovered, settled, claimed and administered by Spain and later Argentina. 55 years later, in another century.
Correct me if im wrong.
Malvinazi?. You go glory Ukraine!!! and eliminating Russian from all links to the world. Even the world cup. But im more than sure that you enjoyed watching england in the world cup while iraquians had their nation being occupied militarilly by a coward coalition of nations. did you enjoyed the world cup or did you claim glory Iraq!.
Libby, 2 more i missed, indoctrinated and drivel,
Mar 04th, 2022 - 10:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Stop trying to claim Spanish history as Argentinian, the breakaway United Provinces inherited NOTHING from Spain,
i will explain one more time ,in simple English that even a child can understand,
The Falklands were recorded and settled by Britain long before you existed, the claim was NEVER given up, so Buenos Aires sent 26 soldiers to a land that was already claimed, they were warned twice not too, and warned again when they landed, the illegal garrison was removed, now has that sunk in yet into your indoctrinated brain, Not every island in the world is inhabited but are still claimed in places like Russia. Canada, the Pacific and even Argentina itself, but no nation sends 26 soldiers to those empty islands and claims them because no one is on them, there is not one shred of evidence that says the islands are Argentinian, if there were you would have gone to the ICJ many years ago, Stop embarrassing yourself with long winded garbage that has nothing to do with the Falklands.
one last time, The islands were recorded and claimed by Britain many years before you existed, any issues between France, Spain and Britain over the islands were settled,
Britains claim was never given up, Roger Lorton ha provided you with massive evidence and still you waffle on, I have wasted enough time responding to your indoctrinated nonsense, the islands belong to the Falkland Islanders and it will remain that way unless they decide otherwise,
Judge Jose, before getting nervious, you should show some evidence first. The only excuse you mention is that the british recorded and settled before Argentina existed as such. But if i go to England and claim it to Argentina, If in 20 years England split its territory in two new nations, does it means i have prior sovereignty rights? I dont think so.
Mar 04th, 2022 - 12:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0BY international law, the british claim in 1765 has no value. Becouse it was not terra nullius, the british did not showed any interest in keeping the claim for the next 60 years, etc.
You wanna convince people that the islands are self-governed or self-determined, go ahead. But they are not, They are a non self-governing territory under a decolonization process. You are embarrassing yourself contradicting the UN, history and the reality. Not even the USA consider the british the owners of Malvinas. But its me the indoctrinated?. Or is it the United Nations too?, or the US perhaps?.
Britain had nothing to settle with France or Spain. France claimed the islands and settled them before the british, making the british claim null. France recognized prior spanish rights, and Spain controlled the whole area for decades, naming several governors without one single protest of claim on the british part.
Roger Lorton provided me with massive propaganda, not even based on the british official position, like british fishermen adminitering the islands for britain at the same moment the spanish controlled and administer the whole territory. To mention only one myth.
I suggest you do not waste your time and convince the United Nations what You and Lorton thinks so they can delist the islands from the decolonization process. Or even better, convince your greatest ally that the islands are de ire british.
Libby why should i be nervous, your historical account from Argentinas propaganda archives are a complete and utter nonsense, i dont need to produce any more evidence, Roger Lorton has provided you with page after page, just because you dont accept it doesnt make it not true,
Mar 04th, 2022 - 01:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you are so indoctrinated that all you quote is drivel, waffle untruths and twisted facts i do not give a flying fart if the USA recognises the Falklands or not, they certainly do not recognise your bogus claim,
when brain washing was being dished out you most certainly was at the front of the queue,
Judge Jose, If you says that the islands self-govern them selves and that they are british, But for the rest of the world gather in the UN considers the islands to be a colony. And to your closest ally considers the territory to be under dispute. Then, the brainwashed its you. It is not what Argentina says about the islands, it is the WORLD that thinks the opposite to what you say.
Mar 04th, 2022 - 05:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Im not indoctrinated and most of what i quote are british sources. you fail to specify which quote that i made is not truth or twisted.
Tell me what did i quoted that was not true?.
my sources are from France initially, as i wanted a 2nd opinion, i did my own research.
Mar 04th, 2022 - 06:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 082 war, Argentine goverment and tv, we are winning the war, we have repulsed the British, we have sunk a carrier, all huge lies,
i fell sorry for you libby, i am sure you are a decent guy, but you have been fed a pack of lies regarding the Falklands from the day you were born,
Brainwashed indoctrinated drivel,wafel, twisted facts and untruths,
go to the ICJ .
Judge Jose, we are winning the war, we have repulsed the British, we have sunk a carrier. These phrases were said by a military dictatorship, 40 years ago, during a WAR!!!!.
Mar 04th, 2022 - 09:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is not something i said, it is not something i quote and it is not something i believe. And it is not the first time a nation lie during a war. In fact, to lie during a war is part of the war itself. It is used to motivate own troops and to atack the morale of the enemy. It is studied in wespoint!!!. Verify it.
And why did the evil Junta come to power, because of corrupt lying civilian goverments,
Mar 04th, 2022 - 09:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I dont think so. Becouse if corruption was the case for militaries taking over democracies, it would imply that militaries imposed transparency and order. That was not the case. The militaries for sure can not take governments without civilian support or international support to exist. I think weak democracies, weak societies, the cold war and being the back yard of the yankis were the ingredients to spread dictatorships all around South America.
Mar 05th, 2022 - 02:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0We, as argentine, were not culturally prepared to defend democracy as we would now. And its not that we were fascist. Common people did not supported the dictators, we suffered them. and they used Malvinas to avoid being rejected by the whole nation that bravelly started to reveil to the junta exposing its own life. But one thing is for sure, they succeded for a moment becouse the islands were considered by us as part of my nation since the time they were taken in 1833.
Indoctrination, wafel twisted facts and untruths, go to the ICJ.
Mar 05th, 2022 - 09:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yeah right, it seems you like twisted.
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