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Defense Minister says Argentine “will recover the Malvinas” with region's help
Argentina's Defense Minister Jorge Taiana Saturday said his country would “recover” the Malvinas/Falkland Islands “with support from the region.” He added that “without patriotism, there will be no recovery of the Malvinas.” Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesArgentina has no moral nor legal claim to the Falklands. FACT.
Apr 11th, 2022 - 10:04 am - Link - Report abuse +6Well he didn't manage it when he was Foreign Minister, and he can't do it as Defence Minister, so the wise strategy might be to shut up.......or look like a failure.
Apr 11th, 2022 - 10:33 am - Link - Report abuse +5No they will not, just more nonsense from a clueless politician.
Apr 11th, 2022 - 11:39 am - Link - Report abuse +5“In these seas so complicated, so full of pirates, it is always better to sail accompanied,”
Apr 11th, 2022 - 11:56 am - Link - Report abuse +2The only pirates in the area were from “There is scarcely a Buenos Ayrean privateer which has not committed piracy of every description” John Quincy Adams July 20th, 1820. David Jewett, and Louis Vernet
Taiana . . . remarked that the sovereignty claim has been a “State policy” since 1833.
Apr 11th, 2022 - 12:17 pm - Link - Report abuse +5Apart from the 91 year gap between 1849 and 1940 . . .
Nov 24 1849 - Convention for re-establishing the perfect Relations of Friendship between Her Britannic Majesty and the Argentine Confederation signed in Buenos Aires;
“Under this Convention perfect friendship between Her Britannic Majesty's Government and the Government of the Confederation, is restored to its former state of good understanding and cordiality.”
The Falklands were not mentioned in the annual “message to Congress” for the next 91 years.
May 1st 1866. Vice-President Marcos Paz opens Argentina's Congress and refers to an old dispute with some British citizens; “The British Government has accepted the President of the Republic of Chile as arbitrator in the reclamation pending with the Argentine Republic, for damages suffered by English subjects in 1845.
This question, which is THE ONLY ONE BETWEEN US AND THE BRITISH NATION, has not yet been settled.
May 1st 1867 Message to Congress Argentina's President Domingo Sarmiento announces;
”Nothing is claimed from us by other nations; WE HAVE NOTHING TO ASK OF THEM”
1833-1982? He forgot something: Julio Argentino ROCAS between this two date's.
Apr 11th, 2022 - 12:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wat I like to say dear JORGE; if you have in memory how long your ancestor stay in this country, taken from all then Indian habitants living there for 1000en years! From where came your ancestors??? Go back there so you shall stop with this shit “patriotisme” Accept this - during a dirty regiem- was also a very dirty war! Nothing less than that.
As long as the world is distracted by real conflicts Argentina will make it's unfounded claims. If the rest of South America should give lip service to their lead it would only be to ensure the shaky stability of MercoSul. I am sure the rest of the world would not stand by and let the recorded wishes of the inhabitants of the Falkland Islands be ignored or is it that Argentina is contemplating genocide to remove the opposition to their claim.
Apr 11th, 2022 - 12:48 pm - Link - Report abuse +1So the real reason comes to the surface as a last ditch attempt to steal our country. It's not for the mythical sovereign claim but the factual wealth that surrounds us. Oil being the big prize.
Apr 11th, 2022 - 02:35 pm - Link - Report abuse +3Well dream on Argentina you will not be getting that prize anytime soon because we islanders are going to rightfully extract it for our future.
Once the natural resources are depleted Argentina wont even mention sovereignty claims.
I have said that for many years. Argentina only wants the islands for its wealth.
Their own country is so deeply in debt and close to financial ruin, our natural resources is one option they believe of clawing their way out.
Sad to say you are on your own there. Your governments have devistated any wealth resources you once had and your people now suffer ad a result.
Juan Manuel de Rosas ?? Is that the bloke who slaughtered all those native peoples. He was a committer of genocide, not someone to be cited in a historical justification of your fantasies.
Apr 11th, 2022 - 03:19 pm - Link - Report abuse +4Argentina Confident of Falklands Agreement
Apr 11th, 2022 - 03:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Argentine Foreign Minister Bramuglia told William Hardcastle, Reuters that the dispute with Britain over the Falkland Islands could be settled adding ''the British are gentlemen. I think it will be settled in that spirit.'' (The Citizen, 6 April 1948).
Sorry Mike: That was not ROSAS, but later ROCAS, he slaughtered the Indians, I come from Holland, has live more than 10 years in Buenos Aires and I have a lot about the history of the south-american country's. Rocas was a very cruel person.
Apr 11th, 2022 - 04:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“ Juan Manuel de Rosas ?? Is that the bloke who slaughtered all those native peoples”
Apr 11th, 2022 - 05:37 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Think you are getting your Rosas and your Rocas muddled up Mike!
It was Julio Argentino Roca who directed the “Conquest of the Desert” in the 1870s.
Juan Manuel de Rosas was in charge up to 1852, during which time (in 1849) the Argentineans signed the Arana-Southern treaty which “re-established Perfect Relations of Friendship” between UK and Argentina, without any reference to maintaining any dispute over the Falklands, and effectively renounced their claim (until it was re-stated 91 years later).
Ah, thank you.
Apr 11th, 2022 - 06:05 pm - Link - Report abuse -1News item: Titanic Taiana reveals expanding Argentine imagination. Free choripanes to anyone who will listen.
Apr 11th, 2022 - 06:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0- ”Vamos a recuperar las Malvinas de la mano del apoyo de la región, de América Latina, porque todos van a comprender que la presencia británica pone el acento en la USURPACIÓN DE LOS RECURSOS NATURALES”
Apr 11th, 2022 - 06:56 pm - Link - Report abuse -6Hear! Hear!
Is that Danish?
Apr 11th, 2022 - 09:56 pm - Link - Report abuse +3Rosas actually started the “Guerra del Desierto” in 1833 strangely year of his first campaign, he did make incursions against the Indians and he wasn't so much of a genocide fanatic person as Roca with the Indians who were attacking the invaders of their land and stealing from them (Malones). Roca perhaps killed more Argentinians than Indians and signed the “Perfect Friendship” convention/ treaty with HM Queen Victoria technically ceding the Falklands but for some reason the nationalists greatly admire him with Peron (they seem to name them together)
Apr 11th, 2022 - 10:40 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Same region that has been 'helping' since 1965?
Apr 11th, 2022 - 11:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How's that going?
Puppet-master China wants Antarctica.
Apr 12th, 2022 - 08:52 am - Link - Report abuse +1Argentine politicians have been saying this since the turn of the century, it will not happen,
Apr 12th, 2022 - 09:09 am - Link - Report abuse +1Why has the defence minister said this? Argentina claim they will not attempt anything militarily and that the garrison at Mount Pleasant is unnecessary.
Apr 12th, 2022 - 11:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0“without patriotism, there will be no recovery of the Malvinas”
Apr 12th, 2022 - 02:26 pm - Link - Report abuse +1He is correct.
Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel.
Logic doesn't make the Malvinas exist
History doesn't
International law doesn't
Moral right doesn't
So try Patriotism, unless you believe in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary, you are not a proud Argentine....!
The last refuge of the scoundrel...Dulce et decorum est pro Patria mori
“Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel.”
Apr 12th, 2022 - 05:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But as Ambrose Bierce points out in “The Devil's Dictionary,” it is the first...
“ PATRIOTISM, n. Combustible rubbish ready to the torch of any one ambitious to illuminate his name.
In Dr. Johnson's famous dictionary patriotism is defined as the last resort of a scoundrel. With all due respect to an enlightened but inferior lexicographer I beg to submit that it is the first. ”
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