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UK tells India, “Britain has no doubts about Falklands sovereignty,” and Islanders right to self determination

Tuesday, August 30th 2022 - 10:55 UTC
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Days after India extended support to Argentina's campaign to restart international negotiations on the Falkland Islands sovereignty claim in the South Atlantic, a British official on Monday said there was “no doubt” about the United Kingdom's sovereignty over the Islands. Read full article

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  • Swede

    “India's support for resumption of discussions on the issue that had triggered in 1982 an Argentine military invasion of the Islands”. “Resumption of discussion” sounds so peaceful. I do not think that countries and politicians who advocate such “discussions” really realize that they by saying so support a full Argentine take-over. They think that such a dialogue could lead to compromises. But that is not possible as the Argentine constitution requires “full sovereignty” over the islands.

    Aug 30th, 2022 - 07:52 am - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Judge Jose

    How about India talking to Pakistan about their disputed territory issue,
    nothing but hypocrites,

    Aug 30th, 2022 - 08:06 am - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Steve Potts

    Swede


    Spot-on. The Narnian mentality never changes...

    “Argentinian Sovereignty over the Malivinas is not negotiable. That is the starting point of negotiation.” (Dante Caputo, Argentine Foreign Minister, 13 November, 1983. Quoted in House of Commons Foreign Affairs Committee, 1983-4, Report, Vol. 2, p 149)

    Aug 30th, 2022 - 09:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • darragh

    Would that be the same India that invaded and still occupies Goa?

    Aug 30th, 2022 - 10:27 am - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Terence Hill

    “UK tells India, “Britain has no doubts about Falklands sovereignty,” and Islanders right to self determination”

    ...opinion on Kosovo's declaration ...
    ”Is that the right of self-determination, which the ICJ found to be jus cogens in the East Timor case, is a right of all peoples, not only of those in a colonial context. ...

    Decolonisation is a mere political term
    ”In the context of decolonisation, the 'political' moment in international law is repeated several times over. ... begins in 1960 with the Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Peoples, an initiative taken by the Third World at the United Nations General Assembly (GA Res. 1514).“ https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Sundhya_Pahuja/publication/322381803_Decolonization_and_the_eventness_of_international_law/links/5a56be0e45851547b1bf25db/Decolonization-and-the-eventness-of-international-law.pdf
    Which, while a worthy goal, is merely an advisement, and not international law.

    *”Decolonization (American English) or Decolonisation (British English) is the undoing of colonialism ... The fundamental right to self-determination is identified by the United Nations as core to decolonization, allowing not only independence, but also other ways of decolonization. The United Nations Special Committee on Decolonization has stated that in the process of decolonization there is no alternative to the colonizer but to allow a process of self-determination.”
    https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Sundhya_Pahuja/publication/322381803_Decolonization_and_the_eventness_of_international_law/links/5a56be0e45851547b1bf25db/Decolonization-and-the-eventness-of-international-law.pdf

    Aug 30th, 2022 - 10:51 am - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Trimonde

    ... funny how they felt they needed to specify and tell that to India, when so many other countries' also support renewing talks and negotiations over the dispute, and Britain stays mute about it. ... I actually love it when Britain insists on their right to the islands based on the Islanders' “self determination”, it's a paradigm that even if the Courts buy it, in critical reasoning actually does not work. It's a farse the world will soon enough see. A farce Britain and the US use to incur so much abusive usurpation in the world today, using people like robbers that convince you that they too have a right to your things because those things accept their ownership. lol ... YOU WILL BE CAUGHT

    Aug 30th, 2022 - 01:06 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Judge Jose

    The only farce Trimonde is the nonsensical claim by Argentina to the Falklands, they have no legal standing, and your crazy theories are just that, crazy, no one will be caught because their is nothing to catch, usurpation, is what your lot did in main land South America stealing land from the natives, long after you and i are dead and buried the islands will still belong to the Falklanders, but go live in your alternate reality if it makes you happy.

    Aug 30th, 2022 - 01:23 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Tænk

    Geeeeeeeeee...
    PenguinPress Engrish porkies at its best...
    And all them little Brainwash Anglo Turnips rejoicing...!
    - “UK TELLS INDIA” ..., is MercoPress'es chosen title............
    But...
    ”A (unidentified) spokesperson of the British High Commission told “The Hindu” (Indian Engrish language newspaper)...' seems to be the true story...
    https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/no-doubt-over-uks-sovereignty-over-falkland-islands-british-official/article65826682.ece

    How pathetic...!
    Chuckle...

    Aug 30th, 2022 - 02:16 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Judge Jose

    how pathetic it is that the above indoctrinated cabbage troll spends his whole life trawling the internet for stories about Britain, get a grip get a life grow up and seek medical help.

    Aug 30th, 2022 - 02:35 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Terence Hill

    ”A (unidentified) spokesperson of the British High Commission told “The Hindu” (Indian Engrish language newspaper)...' seems to be the true story...”

    No it does not since, there is no such statement in the article.

    Aug 30th, 2022 - 03:46 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Pugol-H

    Talking about the Indian press coverage of this, an interesting article and a quick read:

    https://www.theweek.in/news/world/2022/08/30/explained-falkland-row-india-balancing-act.html

    ‘India “reiterated its support to the resumption of negotiations to find a solution to the sovereignty issue''’.

    Not support for the Argentine cause, note.

    ‘Things have become much more complicated now. Especially, as China has chosen to throw its lot with Argentina.’

    And that is why.

    Best of all.

    ‘Argentina established a Commission for the dialogue on the question of the Malvinas Islands in India’.

    ‘The commission, however, sources claim has been a nonstarter’.

    Last but not least.

    ‘India will find a way to attend the 4oth anniversary bash without making too much of a commitment’.

    Probably not alone in that respect.

    Aug 30th, 2022 - 09:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Malvinense 1833

    India “reiterated its support to the resumption of negotiations to find a solution to the sovereignty issue'' relating to the Question of the Malvinas Islands—as the Falkland issue is referred to in Argentina-- “in accordance with the Resolutions of the UNGA and the Special Committee on Decolonisation.”

    The great British defeat is that the international community insists on negotiations between Argentina and the United Kingdom for the sovereignty of the islands.

    India has chosen to play safe and stick to its usual stand—of resolution in accordance to the UNGA and the Special Commission for Decolonisation.

    That is called diplomacy.

    https://www.theweek.in/news/world/2022/08/30/explained-falkland-row-india-balancing-act.html

    Aug 31st, 2022 - 03:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tænk

    Malvinense 1833

    Si me permitís meter la cuchara...:

    ”That is called gooooooood diplomacy....

    Saludos...

    Aug 31st, 2022 - 03:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Judge Jose

    What on earth are you gibbering on about Malvi, the c24 is an irrelevant toothless outdated committee which is nothing to do with sovereignty , the UN General Assembly says self determination over rules anything else, stop wasting your life on a pack of lies and a myth, the Falklands have never belonged to Argentina and never will no matter how much they try to bully,

    Aug 31st, 2022 - 03:36 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Tænk

    Malvinense 1833

    Si me permitís meter la cuchara...:

    No gastés polvora en chimangos....

    Saludos...

    Aug 31st, 2022 - 04:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Judge Jose

    que nino patetico tan eres T.

    Aug 31st, 2022 - 04:43 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Terence Hill

    ” The great British defeat is that the international community insists on negotiations between Argentina and the United Kingdom for the sovereignty of the islands.”

    It’s purely an international law issue that Argentina conceded in 1850, the Convention of Settlement.
    So, it is well beyond the reach of vox populi decisions.

    Aug 31st, 2022 - 05:12 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Pugol-H

    Malvinense 1833
    Except, there is no mention of the word ‘sovereignty’ in the Indian statement, or the UN resolutions.

    The UN resolutions (which the Indians are supporting) say, ‘they should negotiate … bearing in mind the provisions and objectives of the Charter of the United Nations and of General Assembly resolution 1514 (XV)’

    Which make ‘sovereignty’ the decision of the inhabitants of the NSGTs, all of them having the same rights.

    First, you try and ‘include’ territories in UN resolutions, like S. Georgia/S. Sandwich Islands where they are not mentioned. There are no UN resolution with respect to S. Georgia/S. Sandwich Islands

    Then you try and ‘add’ words into UN resolutions, like ‘sovereignty’, where they do not appear in the actual text. There are no UNGA resolution calling for ‘sovereignty’ negotiation with respect to the Malvinas.

    Did you think no one would notice???

    Aug 31st, 2022 - 10:14 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Monkeymagic

    Malvinense 1833

    As I proved to you on the previous thread, The majority of the international community does not call for negotiations....the majority of the international community says the islanders get to decide.

    Repeating the same nonsense on a different thread doesn't make it any more true...just makes you look insane.

    The islands belong to the islanders, they can be a British overseas territory, independent, part of the failed and corrupt state of Argentina, the 51st state of America..or call themselves Narnia and make a Lion the king........its up to them!

    Sep 01st, 2022 - 07:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    Colônia does not decide. Colônia has military protection from the Metropolis that influences the settlers' decision.

    So is the Falklands today.

    Sep 01st, 2022 - 03:16 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Judge Jose

    More crap from you again Bras, you have been told over and over again that the UN supports self determination, they can have independence any time they want just like Bermuda or the Virgin Isles and any other BOT, If the falklanders asked Britain to withdraw within days the Argies would send military to take them, i thought you finally had understood from a previous thread, but again you suck up to a corrupt Argentine government. Argentina has NO legal rite to the islands. capisce,

    Sep 01st, 2022 - 03:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    Or are the settlers too cowardly to abdicate military protection?

    Sep 01st, 2022 - 04:09 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Judge Jose

    What a stupid statement that is Bras, how could a population of 3500 stop an invasion,

    Sep 01st, 2022 - 04:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    Sovereignty has risks! Cowards prefer to hide behind “likes” in comments, capisce?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJJDMNYi1Dc&list=FLmXPTu1f8AdGlizWNiASx2A&index=36

    Se orienta!

    Sep 01st, 2022 - 04:26 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Judge Jose

    Today is the biggest load of garbage you have ever posted in both this thread and the one at the top of the page, why do you hate the Falklanders so much, what have they ever done to you or Brazil, the answer is nothing, but you think its ok for another war to break out between 3500 people and 40 million, that says it all,

    Sep 01st, 2022 - 04:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    My concern is that fear makes the colonists dig holes to the center of the Planet and light the fuse that exists there.

    Ninguém vai atacá-los! Saibam disso!

    Sep 01st, 2022 - 04:58 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Monkeymagic

    Brasileiro

    There are many sovereign countries in military alliances, relying on others for their military protection, the entire NATO alliance is founded upon such a principal. However, you are free to believe that no such Alliances should exist and countries should be free to attack one another and steal their land.

    If this is the case you can have no issue even with the made up and false events of 1833.

    If Argentina can steal the islands from the islanders because they cant protect themselves after 190 years, Captain Onslow was perfectly within his rights to evict Pinedo after 10 weeks.

    Sep 01st, 2022 - 07:02 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Brasileiro

    NATO? Damn it! You are not from America.

    Sep 01st, 2022 - 07:32 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Pugol-H

    Neither are you.

    Sep 03rd, 2022 - 12:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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