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Latin American countries support Argentina's Falklands' claim at UN Fourth Committee
The Fourth Committee (Special Political and Decolonization) began its general debate on decolonization and related agenda items on Monday, with speakers underscoring their nations’ commitment to eliminating colonialism in all corners of the world, with Latin American countries emphasizing in the Falklands/Malvinas dispute.. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesYawn, Yawn, Yawn, yet another non story, the same garbage as last year, and next year and so on,
Oct 04th, 2022 - 10:26 am - Link - Report abuse +1Nothing more than old pals act (Lip-service). Support Argentina's claim? On what legal basis?
Oct 04th, 2022 - 10:50 am - Link - Report abuse +1Remember, nothing for court = illegitimate claim...
Of course they will support Argentina in the public eye because the bottom line is they are all tarred with the same brush and are petrified of Argentina.
Oct 04th, 2022 - 11:19 am - Link - Report abuse +2We Falkland Islanders are the only ones in the region that stand up for our rights and Argentina is scared of the ones protecting us.
This Argument will go on indefinitely because Argentina has no legal claim only bullying tactics in an attempt to scare us into submission.
If they had a solid legal claim they would have already gone to the ICJ. They wont because they know they dont have a real legal case. The rest of Latin America is as thick as the Argentines when it comes to peoples rights.
Human rights dont exist in South America and that is why there is so much unrest today in that region. A disaster waiting to happen.
In the full knowledge that there will be no UN GA Falklands resolution at the end of it.
Oct 04th, 2022 - 11:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0Latinos must be very gullible.
ps. I have a bridge for sale, currently located in Brooklyn ;-)
Once again, the UN resolutions, the ‘special colonial situation’, only apply to the Malvinas, they do not include S. Georgia/S. Sandwich Islands, which have no permanent population and therefore no issue of de-colonisation or self-determination and are not one of the territories listed by the UN for de-colonisation.
Oct 04th, 2022 - 03:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And are therefore outwith the remit of this committee.
‘a resurgence in the discussion around the relationship between the right to self-determination of peoples and the principle of territorial integrity of States’
Is there, I hadn’t noticed, so we can expect another proposed UNGA resolution limiting self-determination, can we???
Oh well, third time lucky maybe but somehow I doubt it, I doubt it will even be proposed, but it sounds good.
Bearing in mind that Tovarishch Putin is now firmly in favour of self-determination, territorial integrity be dammed.
‘Referendums were held in the Donetsk and Luhansk People’s Republics, Zaporozhye and Kherson regions. Their results have been tallied, the results are known. People made their choice, a clear choice’…’ ‘And this, of course, is their right, their inalienable right, which is enshrined in the first article of the UN Charter, which explicitly speaks of the principle of equal rights and self-determination of peoples’.
My favourite:
‘Implanted there with a view to changing the demographic makeup of the territory’.
Where the Falklands are the only part of the Americas where this did not happen, marvellous really, when you think some people believe this sh*t, unbelievable.
And then:
‘Refrain from carrying out unilateral actions’.
Like Argentina becoming a ‘bi-continental country’, using territory controlled by the British???
And they get paid for this???
No wonder the continent is in such Rag Order.
“Describing it as a special colonial situation involving a sovereignty dispute between two Member States, namely, her country and the United Kingdom,”
Oct 04th, 2022 - 10:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“RIGHT OF NON-SELF-GOVERNING TERRITORIES TO SELF-DETERMINATION REAFFIRMED,
The General Assembly would reaffirm the inalienable right of the peoples of Non-Self-Governing Territories to self-determination, including -- if they so wished -- independence, by the terms of one of seven draft resolutions and two decisions on decolonization questions approved this afternoon by the Fourth Committee (Special Political and Decolonization).
Following the conclusion this afternoon of its general debate, the Committee, acting without a vote, approved that two-part consolidated text on small island Territories, by which the Assembly would reaffirm that it is ultimately for the people of the remaining 16 Territories on the Committee's list to determine freely their future political status.”
https://press.un.org/en/2002/gaspd238.doc.htm
“Secondly, States have exclusive competence in their internal
affairs. we will see that this does not mean there are no international
constraints on how they exercise that competence, but that their
jurisdiction is prima facie plenary and exclusive. This is reflected
in Charter article 2 (7), prohibiting the United Nations from intervening in matters “essentially within the domestic jurisdiction of any State”,
Thirdly, and importantly, States are not subject to compulsory
international processes, jurisdiction or settlement without their
consent, given either generally or in a specific case.”
Chance, Order, Change: The Course of International law
By James Crawford
“he said that it is a sui generis case in which the principle of self-determination cannot be applied because of the alteration of the demographic makeup in that territory”.
Oct 07th, 2022 - 08:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0When?
How?
Then Argentines have no right to self-determination, or Peruvians.
The cr$p these people come out with
Falklands-Free, you dont had the right of self determination, within one of the reasons your presence on the islands is due to the expulsion of an Argentine population in 1833.
Oct 12th, 2022 - 09:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A population that had been occupying the islands for several decades, after they were abandoned in 1774 by the English with the exit agreement with Spain.
When the United Provinces of the Río de la Plata took possession of the islands, they were Tierra Nullis under international law.
In short, your right to self-determination is limited just like the right to self-determination of self-perceived Russian citizens in Crimea, Donetsk, Lughansk and jerson.
Although it does not help them, they have a much stronger position than you to claim the right to self-determination, they are Russian-speakers, they self-perceive themselves as 98% citizens of Russia and they are a true people that hundreds of years ago.
You do not even fit the definition of People for the UN
Argentine citizen.
Oct 13th, 2022 - 02:30 am - Link - Report abuse +1You are so wrong.
First Britain did not remove an entire people in 1833. They removed an illegal Argentine military presence. All but a couple of the civilians did not wish to leave and Britain asked them to stay.
Fact is Argentina did not have any rights over the islands. Spain was not in a position to actually give them to you. British occupation precedes the Spanish by over a hundred years. Argentina was not then a country it was still trying to break away from Spain.
So go back and check your home work. Better still take your case to the ICJ and get it sorted once and for all. Think you will find that nearly 4,000 islanders will be given their right to stay right where they are.
If any islander is told to leave than the same has to apply to Argentina who stole the land from an indigenous people.
The Argentine claim is a myth and is only used to get at the British. If the French were still here your lot would not be challenging this country. Which proves it never was a part if Argentina.
Your argument is not only weak it is a lie and only indoctrination has kept that lie going.
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