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UK representative challenges OAS Assembly to recognize Falklands right to self determination
The United Kingdom called on the Organization of American States (OAS) on Friday to “recognize the right to self-determination” of the Falklands/Malvinas islanders who had decided to remain citizens of a British Overseas Territories and members of the British Family, despite Argentina’s sovereignty claims. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rules“... A constructive and positive relationship with Argentina” ? What a load of bullshit. If Britain were seeking a “constructive and positive relationship with Argentina” it would be honoring and respecting that country, and addressing the dispute for what it is, a denouncement of the 1833 usurpation of Puerto Luis . They are such shameless users and liars! They're using the islanders as a political shield to lock the matter around sovereignty, which is why they created that bogus referendum and, which is why they insist that THAT is what they won't discuss.
Oct 08th, 2022 - 11:03 am - Link - Report abuse -5The British exploiting the dominance of the English language in international institutions and organizations to play Attorney Judge and Defense all in one narrative to cram down the ears of the world !!! LOL What a surprise! Manipulating pieces of shit!
A constructive and positive relationship with the Mapuche? What a load of bullshit. If Argentina were seeking “a constructive and positive relationship with the Mapuche” it would be honouring and respecting the people, and addressing the dispute for what it is, a denouncement of the Conquest of the Desert and the murder of 1000 natives. Argentina are such shameless liars. They are using the territorial integrity as a political shield to lock the matter around sovereignty.
Oct 08th, 2022 - 11:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina are exploiting the dominance of the Spanish language in the region to cram down the ears of the world. What a surprise! Manipulating pieces of shit!.
Chuckle!
Tettamanti stressed that “the United Kingdom continues to insist on ignoring the problem”
Oct 08th, 2022 - 11:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0The only problem is the self-evidence of Argentine lying.
CHARTER OF THE ORGANIZATION OF AMERICAN STATES
Part One Chapter II PRINCIPLES Article 3
The American States reaffirm the following principles:
e) ..and has the duty to abstain from intervening in the affairs of another State. ...
Chapter IV FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS AND DUTIES OF STATES
Article 11
Every American State has the duty to respect the rights enjoyed by every other State in accordance with international law.
Article 12
The fundamental rights of States may not be impaired in any manner whatsoever.
Article 13
The political existence of the State is independent of recognition by other States. Even before being recognized, the State has the right to defend its integrity and independence, to provide for its preservation and prosperity, and consequently to organize itself as it sees fit, to legislate concerning its interests, to administer its services, and to determine the jurisdiction and competence of its courts. The exercise of these rights is limited only by the exercise of the rights of other States in accordance with international law.
Article 19
No State or group of States has the right to intervene, directly or indirectly, for any reason whatever, in the internal or external affairs of any other State. The foregoing principle prohibits not only armed force but also any other form of interference or attempted threat against the personality of the State or against its political, economic, and cultural elements.
More foul mouthed garbage from the Argentine activist,
Oct 08th, 2022 - 01:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In response, Argentina’s Foreign Minister, Pablo Tettamanti asserted that the British representative had “repeated the known positions and policies only accepted by United Kingdom, against the call of the international community,”
Oct 08th, 2022 - 03:10 pm - Link - Report abuse +1A blatant lie. The UNGA supports the UK position. It is Argentina that only has the support on Latam corrupt states, and juntas from around the world.
Last time the UNGA voted, the rights of NSGTs to self determination was undeniable.
“It would be honoring and respecting that country, and addressing the dispute for what it is, a denouncement of the 1833 usurpation of Puerto Luis . They are such shameless users and liars!”
Oct 08th, 2022 - 06:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It impossible to respect such proven liars.
“RIGHT OF NON-SELF-GOVERNING TERRITORIES TO SELF-DETERMINATION REAFFIRMED,
The General Assembly would reaffirm the inalienable right of the peoples of Non-Self-Governing Territories to self-determination, including -- if they so wished -- independence, by the terms of one of seven draft resolutions and two decisions on decolonization questions approved this afternoon by the Fourth Committee (Special Political and Decolonization).
Following the conclusion this afternoon of its general debate, the Committee, acting without a vote, approved that two-part consolidated text on small island Territories, by which the Assembly would reaffirm that it is ultimately for the people of the remaining 16 Territories on the Committee's list to determine freely their future political status.”
https://press.un.org/en/2002/gaspd238.doc.htm
“Secondly, States have exclusive competence in their internal
affairs. we will see that this does not mean there are no international
constraints on how they exercise that competence, but that their
jurisdiction is prima facie plenary and exclusive. This is reflected
in Charter article 2 (7), prohibiting the United Nations from intervening in matters “essentially within the domestic jurisdiction of any State”,
Thirdly, and importantly, States are not subject to compulsory
international processes, jurisdiction or settlement without their
consent, given either generally or in a specific case.”
Chance, Order, Change: The Course of International law
By James Crawford
Just a little “Memento”...
Oct 08th, 2022 - 07:09 pm - Link - Report abuse -4Article says...:
- “However..., finally the OAS General Assembly APPROVED BY ACCLAMATION a resolution defending Argentina’s LEGITIMATE RIGHTS over the Falklands/Malvinas Islands and supporting a call for a peaceful and negotiated solution to the dispute over the archipelago...”
I say...:
And who are those sweet OAS General Assembly folks...
https://www.oas.org/en/member_states/default.asp
(A lot of nice American flags indeed..., including the one with a Maple Leaf in the center and the one with all 'em Stars & Stripes...)
Chuckle..., chuckle...
However finally the OAS General Assembly approved by acclamation a resolution defending Argentina’s “legitimate rights” over the Falklands/Malvinas Islands and supporting a call for a “peaceful and negotiated” solution to the dispute over the archipelago.
“OAS General Assembly APPROVED BY ACCLAMATION a resolution defending Argentina’s LEGITIMATE RIGHTS”
Oct 08th, 2022 - 11:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Since they don’t have any legitimate rights, as you are barred from an inheritance by an Anglo-Spanish treaty.
The UK can rely on the Peace of Utrecht, which explicitly bars any Argentine claim of succession.
ARTICLE VIII
“...it is hereby further agreed and concluded, that neither the Catholic King, nor any of his heirs and successors whatsoever, shall sell, yield, pawn, transfer, or by any means, or under any name, alienate from them and the crown of Spain, to the French, or to any other nations whatever, any lands, dominions, or territories, or any part thereof, belonging to Spain in America.”
I would ask Tettemanti, again, what he means by “implanted population”. No one is here by force, this is where we choose to live. Will anything he says be less relevant, because he is also part of an implanted population? His forebears were probably “sent” to Argentina long after the British settled the Falklands, after all.
Oct 09th, 2022 - 11:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0Mr. FitzRoy...
Oct 09th, 2022 - 05:11 pm - Link - Report abuse -2You could also ask ambassadeur SANDERS from Antigua & Barbuda
Or you could ask ambassadeur LYNCH from Barbados
Or you could ask ambassadeur YOUNG from Belize
Or you could ask ambassadeur ZACONETA from Bolivia
Or you could ask ambassadeur BRANDELLI from Brazil
Or you could ask ambassadeur ADSETT from Canada
Or you could ask ambassadeur CHADWICK from Chile
Or you could ask ambassadeur VARGAS from Colombia
Or you could ask ambassadeur CABALCETA from Costa Rica
Or you could ask ambassadeur ROLLE from Dominica
Or you could ask ambassadeur PORTORREAL from Dominican Republic
Or you could ask ambassadeur SAMANIEGO from Ecuador
Or you could ask ambassadeur GOMEZ from El Salvador
Or you could ask ambassadeur SMITH from Grenada
Or you could ask ambassadeur SCIOLLI from Guatemala
Or you could ask ambassadeur HINDS from Guyana
Or you could ask ambassadeur CHARLES from Haiti
Or you could ask ambassadeur LOPEZ from Honduras
Or you could ask ambassadeur MARKS from Jamaica
Or you could ask ambassadeur RIVAS from Mexico
Or you could ask ambassadeur LEON from Panama
Or you could ask ambassadeur VILLALBA from Paraguay
Or you could ask ambassadeur MEJIA from Perú
Or you could ask ambassadeur HULL from Saint Kitts & Nevis
Or you could ask ambassadeur CLARKE from Saint Lucia
Or you could ask ambassadeur GILCHRIST from Saint Vincent & Granadines
Or you could ask ambassadeur SCHALKWIJK from Suriname
Or you could ask ambassadeur NNEYMOUR from Bahamas
Or you could ask ambassadeur SPENCER from Trinidad &Tobago
Or you could ask interim representative HASTINGS from the ALMIGHTY U.S.A.
Or you could ask ambassadeur ABDALA from Uruguay
Or you could ask ambassadeur BRICEÑO from Venezuela
- They all seem quite capable of providing you with an understandable answer
- (Pls. be patient and bear with the Creole Pidgin Engrish of them fifteen (15) or so ambassadeurs of them many former Engrish colonies in the Americas... ;-)
Capisce...?
Hoist by your own petard? So, you agree the “implanted population” argument as facile as anything else that comes out of their mouths? Of course you don't! You buy into this claptrap. As far as the international community, and the population of the Falkland Islands is concerned, the matter is resolved. Argentina is not interested in a discussion, or “dialogue” as they delightfully call it, all they are interested in is colonization by the “Spanish”.
Oct 10th, 2022 - 08:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0“You could also ask”
Oct 10th, 2022 - 11:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0Who holds the legal possession under international law.
“UN General Assembly Resolutions: Resolution 2649
(November 30, 1970)
4. Considers that the acquisition and retention of territory in contravention of the right of the people of that territory to self-determination is inadmissible and a gross violation of the Charter;
5. Condemns those Governments that deny the right to self-determination of peoples recognized as being entitled to it,”
An international law issue that Argentina conceded in 1850, with the signing of the Convention of Settlement.
“Legal Definition of uti possidetis
: a principle in international law that recognizes a peace treaty between parties as vesting each with the territory and property under its control unless otherwise stipulated”
https://www.merriam-webster.com/legal/uti%20possidetis
Mr. FitzRoy...
Oct 10th, 2022 - 12:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say above...:
- “As far as the international community, and the population of the Falkland Islands is concerned, the matter is resolved...”
I say...
- I don't doubt for a second that “As far as the population of the Falkland/ Malvinas Islands is concerned, the matter is resolved.”
But..., as the approval by acclamation of the declaration by ALL the 34 American Countries constituting the OAS (Including CANADA and the almighty U.S.A.) in favour of the Argie rights and position demonstrates..., you are quite wrong about the “International Community” position...
(And don't get me started 'bout the Argie-friendly position of other “small”actors as China, India, Indonesia, Russia etc..., etc..., etc... :-)
Capisce...?
”The approval by acclamation of the declaration by ALL the 34 American Countries constituting the in favour of the Argie rights and position”
Oct 10th, 2022 - 01:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Which is both contrary to international law, the OAS Charter and the UNGA resolution
“The General Assembly would reaffirm the inalienable right of the peoples of Non-Self-Governing Territories to self-determination,”
Couldn’t be any more self-evident than the Islanders incontestable claim.
For the avoidance of doubt, last time the UNGA voted on the rights to self determination of NSGT, the international community including CANADA voted for the islanders.
Oct 11th, 2022 - 03:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Commenting for this story is now closed.
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