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Falklands Veterans mark the 40th anniversary of the Liberation of the Islands
The following arrangements have been made for Friday 11 November 2022 to enable Veterans of the Falkland Islands to mark the 40th Anniversary of the Liberation of the Falkland Islands. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesLIberation??? Liberation from what? From those whose islands they are?? Argentina has a problem with Britain, not with the islanders. The conflict and the hostile attacks against Argentina by the US and England occured before the arrival of the islanders. Argentina just wants its territory back. Nonetheless the islanders feel more worthy when they make themselves the protagonists of this territorial sovereignty dispute between Argentina and Britain, which if they were to think freely intelligently and accurately, would acknowledge that what they should be looking at and directing their efforts at is holding London accountable for the situation Britain put them in, instead of first resolving the problem so they could live peacefully in a place without the tensions caused by their country having them live on a land that is being disputed since 1833.
Nov 11th, 2022 - 12:11 pm - Link - Report abuse -10The islanders so sadly want to have some existential form to themselves in order to escape their vacuous presence, that they cling on to Argentina's attempt to recuperate their islands from the British as something to give them the sense of self they never had before, milking and glorifying an event that ultimately was about Britain creating a war on their heads to install insecurity and resentment, thus securing their dependency to loyalty, becoming more of a colonializing occupation population than ever before.
@Trimonde “Liberation from What!”, A Bunch of Fascist military troops that had invaded a peaceful Island community that's the Liberation!!!
Nov 11th, 2022 - 12:16 pm - Link - Report abuse +5COUNTRIES CAN NOT USE PEOPLE AS A MEANS
Nov 11th, 2022 - 12:55 pm - Link - Report abuse -8TO TAKE TERRITORIES FROM OTHER COUNTRIES.
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Make no mistake; the Islanders or “Kelpers” know very, very well that They are the means through which Britain seeks to finalize the taking of the Malvinas Islands from Argentina. They won't say it, they act dumb and deny it, insisting on pretending that the only thing they want is to secure their right to their own home in the world, and so they create inapplicable festivities such as “Liberation Day” on the day Argentina failed in recovering these islands originally taken from the country by Britain, and even though the islanders were brought after the fact onto land already under dispute, previously settled by Argentina. They refuse to acknowledge what in reality Britain most wants from them, vehemently avoiding the common sense logic of holding Britain accountable for the situation it put them in, because doing so would collapse their politically and historically illogical strategic narrative and pretext of ”self-determination. Don't be fooled when you visit these islands, they do know very well why they are there, and everything they do is to help Britain silently achieve their goal. They are silent conspirators, pretending to be distinctly appart from London. They are not.
“Argentina just wants its territory back”
Nov 11th, 2022 - 02:17 pm - Link - Report abuse +4Suck it up!
While the US army considers.
“...But, after critically reviewing the bases for Argentina’s claim to sovereignty, one must conclude that Argentina never developed definite title to the Islands. None of the bases argued by Argentina are conclusive in establishing sovereignty. Applying the rules concerning the mode of extinctive prescription to Great Britain's claim results in a different conclusion. Extinctive prescription involves possession, ... However, since this was such a long period of time, exceeding eighty years, one could conclude under general principles of international law that this was a sufficient period to extinguish Argentina's claim in spite of her diplomatic protests.
“Great Britain has acquired title to the Islands by extinctive prescription Argentina did not take advantage of the available international bodies for peaceful adjudication of the disputed title.
6. Comparison sf the Competing Claims of Argentina and GB
Regardless of the conclusion reached above, however, the establishment of the world courts changed the situation so that diplomatic protests were no longer sufficient to keep Argentina's claim to sovereignty alive.”
The Falklands (Malvinas) Islands: An International Law Analysis of the Dispute Between Argentina and Great Britain Major James Francis Gravelle
MILITARY LAW REVIEW CONTEMPORARY INTERNATIONAL LEGAL ISSUES
Pamphlet NO. 27-100-107 HEADQUARTERS DEPARTMENT OF THE ARMY; Washington, D.C., Winter 1985
https://tjaglcspublic.army.mil/documents/27431/2250255/View+the+PDF/9f574121-93e6-4494-a347-89f4999c3bee
Don't bother responding to Titmonde, he is just a poor deluded psycho who can't stand the thought that Argentina's arse got monumentally kicked when they tried to steal someone else's homes and what's more there is sod all that Argentina can do about it.
Nov 11th, 2022 - 02:24 pm - Link - Report abuse +5It tears his soul and grips his heart in a vice.
Leave him alone to his delusions.
Spot on Darragh, he lives in an alternate universe,
Nov 11th, 2022 - 02:56 pm - Link - Report abuse +3Gee! Terence Hill; so many systems, laws, and definitions about international territorial rights and ownership to do with sovereignty and land appropriation!! I suppose it should help us run the world and avoid messy confrontations ... ya??? Who doesn't want that, right?
Nov 11th, 2022 - 03:18 pm - Link - Report abuse -6...
but Tell me; who wrote most of this stuff?? and in what original language??
And what language has been spoken in the Falkland Islands for 190 years?
Nov 11th, 2022 - 03:29 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Patrick, Argentines are just thieves. They steal things.
They stole from Chile also. What language do they speak in Chile?
You just don't like white people. Accepting Alexander Betts. You think he's great.
COUNTRIES CAN NOT USE PEOPLE AS A MEANS
Nov 11th, 2022 - 03:35 pm - Link - Report abuse -7TO TAKE TERRITORIES FROM OTHER COUNTRIES.
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Make no mistake; the Islanders or “Kelpers” know very, very well that They are the means through which Britain seeks to finalize the taking of the Malvinas Islands from Argentina. They won't say it, they act dumb and deny it, insisting on pretending that the only thing they want is to secure their right to their own home in the world, and so they create inapplicable festivities such as “Liberation Day” on the day Argentina failed in recovering these islands originally taken from the country by Britain, and even though the islanders were brought after the fact onto land already under dispute, previously settled by Argentina. They refuse to acknowledge what in reality Britain most wants from them, vehemently avoiding the common sense logic of holding Britain accountable for the situation it put them in, because doing so would collapse their politically and historically illogical strategic narrative and pretext of ”self-determination. Don't be fooled when you visit these islands, they do know very well why they are there, and everything they do is to help Britain silently achieve their goal. They are silent conspirators, pretending to be distinctly appart from London. They are not.
The Falklander's did not take territory from another country.
Nov 11th, 2022 - 03:51 pm - Link - Report abuse +4They are not conspiring at anything. That notion must come from a conspiratorial nut-job.
They are just living their lives like they have for 190 years.
Try a different fantasy Patrick. Like the one that Alexander Betts is a good guy.
“COUNTRIES CAN NOT USE PEOPLE AS A MEANS”
Nov 11th, 2022 - 09:56 pm - Link - Report abuse -1People are the correct incidental to: “the establishment of the world courts changed the situation so that diplomatic protests were no longer sufficient to keep Argentina's claim to sovereignty alive.”
The Falklands (Malvinas) Islands: An International Law Analysis of the Dispute Between Argentina and Great Britain Major James Francis Gravelle
The Falklands (Malvinas) Islands: An International Law Analysis of the Dispute Between Argentina and Great Britain Major James Francis Gravelle
“A State which has ceased to exercise any authority over a territory cannot, by purely verbal protestations, indefinitely maintain its title against another which for a sufficiently long time has effectively exercised the powers and fulfilled the duties of sovereignty in it.''(Theory and Reality in International Law, de Visscher, 1957, p201).
What a great week it’s been so far; we are so thrilled to have so many veterans, partners, sons and daughters, mothers and fathers here. The memorial service today was almost perfect and it was overwhelming to witness and once again go back to 1982 like it was last year.
Nov 11th, 2022 - 10:09 pm - Link - Report abuse +2Take it to the ICJ, Pat
Nov 12th, 2022 - 12:49 am - Link - Report abuse +1@Roger Lorton The United Kingdom does not accept the jurisdiction of the ICJ for the Malvinas Islands, only for the Antarctic Dependencies, the Sandwich Islands and Georgia.
Nov 12th, 2022 - 04:57 am - Link - Report abuse -4In short, they know they lose at the legal table and refuse to accept going to the icj for the sovereignty of the Malvinas.
Zit-izen, you are talking through your rear.
Nov 12th, 2022 - 05:47 am - Link - Report abuse +3Here is the official ICJ site regarding Declarations recognising the jurisdiction of the Court as Compulsory.
https://www.icj-cij.org/en/declarations
Check out the list. You will find the UK with its declared limitations.
You will not find Argentina, at all.
You should study more
“ Although we have no doubt about our sovereignty over the Falkland Islands, South Georgia, South Sandwich or British Antarctic Territory, some of my right hon. and hon. friends have suggested that we refer the matter to the International Court of Justice. Since Argentina does not accept the compulsory jurisdiction of the court, the issue cannot be referred for a binding decision without her agreement. We have never sought a ruling on the Falkland Islands themselves from that court, but we have raised the question of the dependencies on three separate occasions—in 1947, 1949 and 1951. Each time Argentina refused to go to the court. In 1955, the British Government applied unilaterally to the International Court of Justice against encroachments on British sovereignty in the dependencies by Argentina. Again, the court advised that it could not pursue the matter since it could act only if there was agreement between the parties recognizing the court's jurisdiction. In 1977, Argentina, having accepted the jurisdiction of an international court of arbitration on the Beagle Channel dispute with Chile, then refused to accept its results. It is difficult to believe in Argentina's good faith with that very recent example in mind. There is no reason, given the history of this question, for Britain, which has sovereignty and is claiming nothing more, to make the first move. It is Argentina that is making a claim. If Argentina wanted to refer it to the International Court, we would consider the possibility very seriously. But in the light of past events it would be hard to have confidence that Argentina would respect a judgement that it did not like.”
Nov 15th, 2022 - 02:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Prime Minister (Mrs. Margaret Thatcher)
http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/commons/1982/apr/29/falkland-islands
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