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Lula determined to form Peace Club to end Ukraine conflict

Saturday, February 25th 2023 - 10:58 UTC
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Brazilian President Luiz Inácio Lula Da Silva launched Friday through social media a negotiated peace proposal for the one-tear-old war in Ukraine which has consequences the world over. Read full article

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  • Brasileiro

    There is peace only when the contenders need or want it.

    I don't believe this is the time. Russia still wants to free Odessa from the Nazi yoke. And the sanctions of that West don't even tickle.

    The world changed!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cELgENW81v4

    Feb 25th, 2023 - 02:16 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Juan Cervantes

    If you love Russia and Putin so much then go live there, you will soon change your mind and start crying i want to go home, troll,

    Feb 25th, 2023 - 07:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • bushpilot

    Brazilians are a bunch of Hitler Nazis for exterminating the Amazon Indians for gold.

    I can't wait for NATO to go down there and wipe that country out.

    It should take only 2 days. They're a bunch of little girl communists.

    Feb 26th, 2023 - 02:38 am - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Brasileiro

    You in NATO are already in a difficult situation fighting only Russia, imagine when you have to fight the BRICS, of which Brazil is proudly a part, and soon Argentina will also be a part.

    kkkkk

    Feb 26th, 2023 - 01:15 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Juan Cervantes

    Are you really that stupid Brasileiro, BRICS is an economic grouping nothing more, military exercises mean nothing, America without Nato can obliterate BRICS on their own,, why would democratic countries want a war with NATO, Argentina are nothing military wise and never will be, Brazil has no interest in any war and certainly would not be interested in fighting the greastest military alliance ever constructed, India are good friends with the UK, Canada and Europe, Russian military has proven to be useless, China are not interested in any war with the west, so grow up you silly little boy and stop posting silly idiotic nonsense, If you really believe the garbage you are posting then you need to seek medical help,

    Feb 26th, 2023 - 02:52 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • bushpilot

    Bras is a bit of a strange character. His man parts never fully developed and he's a bit ashamed of that and has also developed a complex from it. Hence, the mean looking face paint. Due to his confusion over his dysfunctional, underdeveloped testicles, he might also have become homosexual, but I don't see anything wrong with that.

    Feb 26th, 2023 - 04:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Shogun

    Brasileiro

    You cannot compare BRICS to NATO

    As correctly stated its an economic alliance
    But your comments about Nato are correct.

    Nato is in no position to go toe to toe with Russia
    Russia is fighting on its own turf
    Its a matter of logistics for NATO
    The average number of artillery shells produced by the Nato countries in a month is equal to what Ukraine is firing in one day.
    The west has allowed its industrial base to decline
    NATO has depleted its stockpiles of Ammo over the past year feeding the Ukraine and has no chance of increasing its stockpiles in the short term.

    This is borne out by Nato militaries complaining that their stocks are now so low that they have begun to oppose anymore reduction.
    For example the UK said they would supply 14 Challenger tanks but it is now stated that only 4 will be supplied with no date for the other 10

    Regarding the US Abrams tank, no fixed date, probably next year.
    Why ? because these tanks have to be built
    Why.? the Pentagon refuses to supply the current Abrams tank due to its semi secret armour and fears that if they supply the Abrams in its present form the chances are high that the tank will fall into Russian hands, I have not even mentioned the time it takes to train Ukraine troops to western tanks effectively on the battlefield
    Ukraine wants tanks because they have lost almost all of what they had at the start of the war over 1000 of them, a couple of hundred western tanks will have little effect on the battlefield.

    Its now obvious to anyone with a brain that the US / NATO is not prepared for a combined arms industrial war.
    As each month passes NATO and the US give less and less to the Ukraine.

    Feb 26th, 2023 - 06:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Juan Cervantes

    Shogun, you have no clue as to what conventional power NATO has, it would wipe out Russian military within a week, Russia knows that , that is why they keep spouting the nuclear threat, get educated, research the truth not read newspaper headlines, Ukraine has more tanks now than it had at the start of the war, captured Russian tanks by the score, the Russian air force has cowered away because of its heavy losses, the only thing Russia can do is send missiles to bomb schools hospitals and shops, hoping to bring Ukraine to the table, you are clearly deluded ,

    Feb 26th, 2023 - 06:30 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Shogun

    Juan Cervantes
    or is it Judge Jose lol but no matter
    You spout the same MSM narritive, I will amend my previous comment.

    “The Russian artillery fires in 1 day what NATO and the US produce in 1 month.”
    this you can easily verify by reading the production figures of the US which are published on the web such as the website of Raytheon and others etc etc its no secret

    I am not quoting newspaper headlines you are the one doing that, get educated and investigate the US Military Complex production rates.
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    If, as you say the Ukraine has more tanks now, why are they asking for more ? are they currently outnumbered lol

    Captured Russian tanks by the “score”, lol obviously they have losses they are not immune but not on the scale spouted by the MSM

    Ah what about the tank that was supposed to be a destroyed Russian tank and shown on social media then debunked as actually being a Ukrainian tank lol

    Ukraine is so short of ammo and equipment that it has reduced its firing rate in recent weeks and soldiers are using civilian pickups due to the shortage of personnel carriers, there is plenty of drone footage of this

    I also note that the US Patriot air defence system ( only one system lol ) still has not been sent, promised more than 1 month ago. I wonder why ? at a guess it is difficult to integrate into the Ukraine air defence system its Soviet era based lol plus training the Ukrainians to use it effectively

    The US is still not supplying long range ATACAM missles because they do not want to deplete their stocks as replacement times are too long but this is being sold to the public as “ they do not want escalation ”

    You are the one that really has no clue as to what is actually happening on the battlefield or the production rates of the US and NATO Military Industrial Complex

    Feb 26th, 2023 - 08:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • bushpilot

    Here is what my “Peace Club” would promote to settle things.

    “Vladimir, give back the Crimea, move all of your military to your side of the original borders, and, let there be peace”.

    Is that really a Peace Club, or just a useless show?

    Here is what will be Lula's “Peace Club” plan: “Zelensky, just stop shooting at the Russians, let them keep what they have taken, and, let there be peace”.

    Is that a Peace Club, or just a useless show?

    Feb 26th, 2023 - 09:03 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Juan Cervantes

    Shogun, probably because Judge Jose speaks the truth, addressing your waffle.

    Russia fires in 1 day what Nato produces in a week, nonsense, Russia is providing its cannon fodder with outdated rusted up ww2 weapons, many that dont even work, and you are seriously telling me that USA, . Canada, France, Germany, Italy, UK and so on and so on are not producing the weapons to outstrip Russia who are running out of their antiquated stock, and begging Iran and North Korea for weapons, have a day off will you,

    Everything you do quote is based on media lies not reality , we have seen the Russian tank convoys stopped in their tracks, useless logistics unable to get fuel to them, so they are feft abandoned 100s of them in tact,

    Of course Ukraine needs more ammo, they are using a lot, hence the recapture of vast swathes of land that was lost in the first few weeks,
    Big deal the patriot system has not arrived yet, the Russian air force is running scared with huge chopper and plane losses, why havent they over run the Ukraine air force yet ?

    I have no clue you say, i know far more than you about NATOs military and weapon production,
    you should be dam well ashamed of yourself, an apologist and an enabler of an evil power mad dictator, who wants an empire, who has destroyed what democracy their was in Russia, who has killed or arrested anyone who has the courage to stand up to him, who has stolen billions of dollars off the Russian people, who crushed Chechnya who wanted independence, who rushed in to Belarus to prop up another dictator who clearly lost the election and now is nothing but Russian puppet state, who interfered in Georgia to stop them looking westward, who killed thousands of innocent civilians in Syria to prop up another evil dictator,
    so to sum up, NATO is nowhere near running out of weapons, and would easily destroy an outmatched Russia in a conventional war, everyone with the slightest bit of intelligence knows that,
    Putin is desperate.

    Feb 26th, 2023 - 09:29 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Jack Bauer

    BrAsshole,

    “Russia still wants to free Odessa from the Nazi yoke.....”

    BrAsshole, do you even know the origin of the Nazi party ? obviously not. No point in trying to educate you either, you are too f'g stupid to understand.

    “NATO are already in a difficult situation fighting only Russia, imagine when you have to fight the BRICS.......”

    Hey Numbnuts, since when is BRICS a fighting force ?

    May I suggest you stop embarrassing yourself and the Brazilians who aren't ignorant, Marxist idiots like yourself.....



    Shogun, Juan Cervantes, bushpilot...

    Guys, at least 30 % of the Brazilian population is made up of idiots like BrAsshole....no point in trying to maintain a meaningful dialogue with him, it's way above his brain-grade.

    Feb 26th, 2023 - 10:09 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Shogun

    Juan Cervantes

    Stop quoting the MSM
    Your diatribe is straight from the MSM
    you need to do some real research.
    you know more than me about Nato weapon production ? when all you are doing is repeating the MSM narritive

    That is not the reality, go and check out the US Military Complex production rates, which is way above any European or UK production.
    Since March 2022 according to the MSM Russia is running out of Missiles Ammo Tanks etc
    Their usage rate has not decreased over this period
    The west has just about run out of 155mm artillery shells over this time, what happened to their production ? it does not exist in any quantity.
    If you know anything at all about weapon production, increasing it cannot be done overnight
    You are indicating that Russia ; Iran and N.Korea can out produce the west,
    Ukraine air force ???
    Good luck living in your MSM bubble.

    Feb 26th, 2023 - 10:54 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Juan Cervantes

    Shogun, have never took any interest in MSM ever, were have i indicated that RUS-NK-IR can out produce Nato, read it , i said Russia and Putin are desperate and having to get weapons from Iran and NK, because they can not replenish their losses themselves, but dont let facts get in the way, Turkey is also part of Nato are they short of weapons, NO is Greece. NO. is Poland NO, are soon to join Finland and Sweden NO, is Spain ,NO and neither are the Yanks, Russia cant even get parts to replace their damaged planes, but hey you continue living in that warped world you live in, one day you may wake up and live in the real world, not wasting one more second on you, so go and collect your roubles from your little messiah,

    Feb 26th, 2023 - 11:32 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Shogun

    Juan Cervantes

    Sorry to burst your bubble but not waisting anymore time either

    https://theduran.com/russia-pincers-close-bakhmut-zaluzhny-warns-zelensky-china-arms-spook-west-cia-chief-burns-says-russia-confident/

    Feb 27th, 2023 - 12:22 am - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Tænk

    Mr. Shogun...

    Can see that you..., (as humble me...) have reached the logical conclusion of...: “Not waisting anymore time”... with complete and evident Brainwashed Anglo Turnips & Trolls...

    They are thou useful as a kind of “Tennis Wall”..., if you catch me drift... ;-)

    Greetings from this Patagonian that also appreciates the good work Mr. Mercouris is providing (but is a bit tired of some of the most far-fetched wiewpoints & theories of Mr. Christoforou... ;-)))


    Happy to see that you reached quickly the correct decision...:

    Feb 27th, 2023 - 01:59 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Juan Cervantes

    Senor Taenk, you have wasted how many years wasting your life posting childish gibberish, and still continue to do so, the only indoctrinated brainwashed trolls are people like yourself, as the post above clearly shows,,

    Feb 27th, 2023 - 02:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • bushpilot

    Patagonian! Har, har, har!

    Argentine_Cityzen! Har, har, har!

    Feb 27th, 2023 - 03:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jeff12

    End NATO and G7.

    Feb 28th, 2023 - 05:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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