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US media: Washington needs to capitalize on Falklands case to restore hemispheric unity
However small, remote, and irrelevant to Washington the South Atlantic might be, it might prove vital if the United States is to rebuild its hemispheric strategy lost as a result of helping the United Kingdom retake the Falklands from Argentine forces back in 1982, according to a Foreign Policy article published Sunday. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesThat's what I've been saying for a long time. These small islands (almost of no importance at all) managed to destroy the entire unity of the hemisphere.
Feb 27th, 2023 - 09:31 am - Link - Report abuse -7As long as England does not return the islands to their rightful owners, South America's rapprochement with the BRICS is inevitable.
England and its bellicose and arms policy is a real threat to the sovereignty of the American peoples.
Perhaps it's time for Argentina to move on from her mythical usurpation and that dead UN Resolution?
Feb 27th, 2023 - 12:20 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Time for Argentina to turn the page and move on. Falklands War, Its Aftermath, And Argentina’s Failure to Accept Reality:
https://www.academia.edu/77654465/Falklands_War_Its_Aftermath_and_Argentina_s_Failure_to_Accept_Reality
Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee....
Feb 27th, 2023 - 01:26 pm - Link - Report abuse -4These Anglo Yankees really have some Chutzpah...!
After having trained (from the 50'es through the 80'es...) hundreds of Latinamerican Generals/Dictators in their infamous “School of the Americas” to become their Dictators/Generals bulwark against the “Satanical Communists”..........
......... They stabbed their best trained mutt in the back in 1982..., the one they “admiringly” refered as...:“Our South-American General Patton”..., aka Leopoldo Fortunato Galtieri...
And now..., some Yankee above Tænks that they Yankees can regain some degree of Yankee Hemispheric Control..., by offering us Argies some...: ”Support for reconciliation and memorial efforts that involve Argentines..., expanding Argentines’ ability to live and work in the Malvinas..., encouraging Britain and the Malvinas Islands colonial government to permit direct flights from Argentina to the Malvinas (a persistent sore spot that has also impacted the Malvinas ability to remain connected to the South American mainland)..., and developing structures that will allow Argentina to share in the Malvinas resource wealth...”
Ya' know what..., Yankee...?
Go stuff Urself...!
Capisce...?
to regain some degree of Yankee Hemispheric Control....
could includ
supporting reconciliation and memorial efforts that involve Argentines, expanding Argentines’ ability to live and work in the Falklands, encouraging Britain and the Falkland Islands government to permit direct flights from Argentina to the Falklands (a persistent sore spot that has also impacted the Falklands’ ability to remain connected to the South American mainland), and developing structures that will allow Argentina to share in the Falklands’ resource wealth. Getting British acquiescence to such policies is something the United States can likely deliver
The United States understands that Russia and China extend their influences on the continent and therefore it is not convenient for them.
Feb 27th, 2023 - 02:18 pm - Link - Report abuse -6The United States also understands that Argentina and the United Kingdom are natural allies of each other.
In short, they agree with what I always say. Put political differences aside for a moment, establish flights, navigation, commerce, tourism, business, so that people can contact each other.
But not. It is not possible due to the british intransigence and that of my compatriots.
Brasileiro
Feb 27th, 2023 - 09:11 pm - Link - Report abuse +1England is quite happy to hand the Falklands to their rightful owner....the Falkland Islanders.
However, Argentina, with threats of invasion and bullying stop it from happening.
Monkeymagic, threats of invasion???. I dont know where you get informed, but your media is making you a fool.
Feb 27th, 2023 - 10:18 pm - Link - Report abuse -1Argentina's armed forces are in no shape even to pay its personnel's salaries. What threats you see comming from us?. Only one radar, that detected illegal flights crossing to the islands?. Imagine if we put a radar near the private airstrip of Joe Lewis in Patagonia?.
You guys live in a fantasy world. You are mad at Putins but forgot the wars, invasions and cover operations that NATO members has been doing since its creation. The support of brutal regimes, etc.
US intelligence helped Saddam's Ba`ath Party seize power for the first time in 1963. Evidence suggests that Saddam was on the CIA payroll as early as 1959, when he participated in a failed assassination attempt against Iraqi strongman Abd al-Karim Qassem. In the 1980s, the US and Britain backed Saddam in the war against Iran, giving Iraq arms, money, satellite intelligence, and even chemical & bio-weapon precursors. As many as 90 US military advisors supported Iraqi forces and helped pick targets for Iraqi air and missile attacks.
You then masivelly bombed and invaded Iraq for supposedly having weapons of mass destruction taking as a prove an “inteligence” report. You then recognized the inexistance of such weapons and used the excuse of the elimination of a dictatorship.
No one, and i mean no one in Iraq was receiving the americans and british as their “liberators”.
You are STILL exploting their natural resources and you have the face to call it a mistake and to call puting for a world trial?.
Senor Liberato, the West has made many many mistakes, however they have never tried to annexe any country to wipe it off the face of the map, Moldova is next on the Moscows hit list, and they have never deliberately targeted schools hospitals and shops,
Feb 28th, 2023 - 04:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Juan Cervantes, thats becouse there is no need for the west to annexe a territory. You only need a few millons cash in the right pocket and the natural resources and markets of those poor nations are yours. And if you dont find those pockets you use your militaries to make a “democracy”.
Mar 01st, 2023 - 03:00 am - Link - Report abuse -3Thats what the west made in Ukraine, Syria, Iraq, Lybia, etc.
There are specific parts of Africa, where africans are not alowed to go. There are many exploitation of minerals resources secured by France armed forces for instance.
There are British and american companies extracting oil in nations they were not alowed to.
A war is not a mistake. Never in history a war is made by mistake. You can be fooled, or at war for the most stupid reason. You dont like them and you go to war with them, whatever you can imagine, but not for a report of intelligence when there was a UN inspector telling you there was no WMD. If millons of iraqians died for a mistake and thousens of soldiers fought by mistakes, then it is worse than the invasion made by Russia.
But by claiming that a coalition of like 50 nations invading a sovereign nation was a mistake. Then many are to be found guilty, dont you think?. Becouse if not, Putin can claim a mistake too. Hitler could have claimed to be mistaken after killing sistematically millons of jewish..
Do you realize how stupid you sound claiming the west horrible wars as a mistake?. If you want, we can count and compare the deads of the Iraqs war and the Ukraine war. We can also count the bombs, etc.
I am not a communist, socialist or anti USA. People are managed and indoctrinated everywhere. You can be a Nobel Price winner in math and be a completely ignorant in politics.This is no more than a modern Roman Empire.
Death penalty for Putin?, isolation or Russia?. Ok. Death penalty for Bush and Blair?. Isolation of the USA and Britain?.
Mr. Liberato...
Mar 01st, 2023 - 11:13 am - Link - Report abuse -2Worthy answer to a unworthy interlocutor...
Just read the above Anglo Turnips brainwashed, bad faith comment...:
- The West has made many many mistakes ......................... however they have never deliberately targeted schools hospitals and shops...“
What ”West“ would that be..., I ask...???
- Ze ”German West“..., ”never deliberately targeting schools hospitals and shops“ in Rotterdam..., Warsaw..., London or Stalingrad....?
- The ”Engrish West“..., ”never deliberately targeting schools hospitals and shops“ in Dresden..., Hamburg..., Köln or Berlin....?
- The ”Yankee West“..., ”never deliberately targeting schools hospitals and shops“ in Hiroshima..., Nagasaki..., Tokyo or Manila...?
- The ”Anglosphere West“..., ”never deliberately targeting schools hospitals and shops” in North and South Viet-Nam..., Laos or Cambodia...?
Capisce...?
Taenk, many hospital in Iraq were bombed with the excuse that the iraquians combatants were hiding there.
Mar 01st, 2023 - 02:14 pm - Link - Report abuse -3...Not to speak about them many mosques them Yankees bombed in Iraq..., with the excuse that there were Muslim Sandniggas praying there....
Mar 01st, 2023 - 02:23 pm - Link - Report abuse -1“Today, every Latin American nation recognizes the Falklands as Argentine territory … British sovereignty over the islands is not worth contesting today, the Latin American position on the issue is worth respecting, not ignoring ... to help unite the Western Hemisphere once again,”
Mar 01st, 2023 - 05:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How about the US official view.
“As late as 1886 the Secretary of State found it necessary to inform the Argentine Government that as “the resumption of actual occupation of the Falkland Islands by Great Britain in 1833 took place under a claim of title which had been previously asserted and maintained by that Government, it is not seen that the Monroe Doctrine, which has been invoked on the part of the Argentine Republic, has any application to the case. By the terms in which that principle of international conduct was announced, it was expressly excluded from retroactive operation.”
P.60 Sovereignty and the Falkland Islands Crisis D.W. Greig
Terence Hill, https://2009-2017.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2012/01/182294.htm
Mar 02nd, 2023 - 12:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0U.S. Position on the Falkland (Malvinas) Islands
quote: “We recognize de facto United Kingdom administration of the islands but take no position regarding sovereignty.”
De facto means the opposite to the iure isnt it?.
No, Libby. De facto means 'in fact'. De jure means 'in law'.
Mar 02nd, 2023 - 12:41 am - Link - Report abuse -1Looking around the world today, methinks the USA is in need of the UK rather more than a bunch of squabbling Latino nations with no fight in them.
So, as a matter of fact, the US is telling that there is a United Kingdom administration on the islands, but as they recognise there ir a sovereignty dispute, they dont recognize that administration as the owner of the place. Is that right my interpretation?.
Mar 02nd, 2023 - 01:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0quote:“Looking around the world today, methinks the USA is in need of the UK rather more than a bunch of squabbling Latino nations with no fight in them.”.
And god knows how hard your government pushed for the US to side with Britain on this. I really dont care what is the approuch of the US on this. But it speaks more on your government when your closest ally dont follow you in your crime while you follow them in theirs.
I dont know what kind of fights you are talking about. But wars should not happens, and if it happens, it is not a gang you have to reunite with accomplices.Britain is a good accomplice going to wars and invation against nations that did not atacked you in the first place.
“When Antonio De Loera-Brust ’17 was a film major and Chicana/o and Latino studies minor at Loyola Marymount University”
Mar 02nd, 2023 - 02:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0https://newsroom.lmu.edu/campusnews/antonio-de-loera-brust-17-ignatian-values-guide-political-career/
I doubt that a minor bureaucrat with a minor in Latino studies is going to reshape US foreign policy, if Jean Kirkpatrick couldn’t.
“Kirkpatrick, who, according to British UN Ambassador Sir Anthony Parsons, was very mixed up with Latin American policy, even went as far as supporting the Argentinian dictatorship by urging the Reagan Administration to act as outlined as in the Rio Pact of 1947, which stated that an attack against one state in the hemisphere should be considered an attack against them all.“
”U.S. Position on the Falkland”
“I believe that my resolution, which clearly calls for us to state whose side we’re on – which is the British side – will, in fact, I believe, aid the negotiating process.
“It won’t diminish the chances of negotiations.
“I think the Argentinians must be disabused of the notion, assuming they harbour it, that the US is truly neutral in this matter.” Biden in 1982
Terence Hill, you mix the realpolitics aroused, specially in a military conflict, and diplomacy. In the realpolitics the USA is obviously in favour of its british accomplice, i mean, ally. But in diplomacy things are different.
Mar 02nd, 2023 - 03:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0And in diplomacy, the USA official position is one of neutrality, as described many times by the US State Department.
https://en.mercopress.com/2013/03/13/falklands-us-formal-position-unchanged-but-describes-the-referendum-as-democratic
You mentioned miss Kirkpatrick. In those times, the US (along with the UK), got more than involved in supporting militarie dictatorships and coup d'etats, supporting them in many ways within their fight against the “evil” soviets. I think miss Kirkpatrick, made lobby, not for its south american ally, but within the US interests in South America.
To resume, i think i dont need to give you, again, the link of the US State Department to confirm what is the US official position regarding Malvinas. Or should i?.
“We recognize the de facto U.K. Administration of the islands, but we take no position on sovereignty claims”
Mar 02nd, 2023 - 08:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0But regardless.
“UN Charter; DECLARATION REGARDING NON-SELF-GOVERNING TERRITORIES; Article 73; Members of the United Nations which have or assume responsibilities for ..peoples have not yet attained .. self-government recognize the principle ..b. to develop self-government, ...”
While the US army considers.
“...But, after critically reviewing the bases for Argentina’s claim to sovereignty, one must conclude that Argentina never developed definite title to the Islands. None of the bases argued by Argentina are conclusive in establishing sovereignty. Applying the rules concerning the mode of extinctive prescription to Great Britain's claim results in a different conclusion. Extinctive prescription involves possession, ... However, since this was such a long period of time, exceeding eighty years, one could conclude under general principles of international law that this was a sufficient period to extinguish Argentina's claim in spite of her diplomatic protests.
“Great Britain has acquired title to the Islands by extinctive prescription Argentina did not take advantage of the available international bodies for peaceful adjudication of the disputed title.
The Falklands (Malvinas) Islands: An International Law Analysis of the Dispute Between Argentina and Great Britain Major James Francis Gravelle
MILITARY LAW REVIEW CONTEMPORARY INTERNATIONAL LEGAL ISSUES
Pamphlet NO. 27-100-107 HEADQUARTERS DEPARTMENT OF THE ARMY; Washington, D.C., Winter 1985
“you mix the realpolitics aroused, specially in a military conflict, and diplomacy. In the realpolitics”
It is established that the only party doing this is lying Argentina. As the UK and Islanders claim relies firmly on the UN Charter.
Libby, recognition de facto is recognition of the simple reality, without having to worry about which, or whose, laws apply.
Mar 02nd, 2023 - 08:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0The USA recognised British sovereignty up until 1945, when the US government decided to adjust its position for geopolitical reasons. It was of no great consequence. Why? Because nothing changed.
Hmmmmmm...
Mar 02nd, 2023 - 12:42 pm - Link - Report abuse -1The assiduous Black Country commentator above says...:
- “ The USA recognised British sovereignty up until 1945, when the US government decided to adjust its position for geopolitical reasons. It was of no great consequence. Why? Because nothing changed.
Humble..., little me says...:
- Nothing changed in 1945...???
- Wasn't 1945 the year when the US government decided to ”adjust” its geopolitical position..., with lethal consequences for the Brutish Empire...???
Chuckle..., chuckle...
Senor Taenk, in the Brazilian section didnt you say you had given up talking to the Anglos, not wasting any more time on us ?
Mar 02nd, 2023 - 01:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Roger Lorton, this is not a popularity contest, to determine which nation the US love most.Trust me.
Mar 02nd, 2023 - 01:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nevertheless, i was stablishing a very little and simple fact. The US Official position regarding Malvinas. It was a response to Terence Hill that said a different thing.
Juan Cervantes, Are you anglo?. Joder!.
Liberato. i am a citizen of the world,
Mar 02nd, 2023 - 02:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Wasn't 1945 the year when the” United Nations Charter became the operative of international law. You know the Charter that Argentina never ever complies with.
Mar 02nd, 2023 - 02:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“The US Official position regarding Malvinas. It was a response to Terence Hill that said a different thing.”
The US is publicly assuming a neutral posture, it’s not in their interest to do otherwise.
“I believe that my resolution, which clearly calls for us to state whose side we’re on – which is the British side – will, in fact, I believe, aid the negotiating process.
“It won’t diminish the chances of negotiations.
“I think the Argentinians must be disabused of the notion, assuming they harbour it, that the US is truly neutral in this matter.”
Biden in 1982
But, meanwhile back at the ranch-house
“I doubt that a minor bureaucrat with a minor in Latino studies is going to reshape US foreign policy, if Jean Kirkpatrick couldn’t.”
TWIMC...
Mar 02nd, 2023 - 02:52 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Some complete & evident Brainwashed Anglo Turnip above asks If I didn't wrote recently that...:
“I had given up talking to the Anglos..., not wasting any more time on them”...
Nope...
What I did write was that I was...:
“Not waisting anymore time with complete and evident Brainwashed Anglo Turnips & Trolls”...
Mr. Roger Lorton may be a somewhat of rough Brummie ex-copper character who..., only Buddha knows why..., still prefers his ale served at fresh dog-piss temperature..., but he ain't no Turnip...
Always a pleasure to help him refresh his knowlege of Brutish History..., though...
Capisce...?
And there you have Argentinian posters, troll above has proved my point, that he is nothing more than an internet troll, who wastes years of his life trolling and posting childish gibbering nonsense, a pathetic excuse for a man, on top of that a lot of his posts are racist , it is idiots like him that cause conflict, as someone of dual nationalty and has friends from many countries i am always prepared to listen to other views even when i disagree with them. but the clown called Taenk, is just a waste of oxygen on this tiny planet we all live in,
Mar 02nd, 2023 - 03:12 pm - Link - Report abuse -2Calm down Juan Cervantes, life is short Don Quijote!.
Mar 03rd, 2023 - 12:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0Liberato, i am as calm as can be, just pointing out something that should have been said years ago, he is an embarrassment to this site and to your country, down voting what i said make it un true,
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