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Argentina's cancellation of Córdoba-Mt. Pleasant route made official
The Argentine Government's decision to strike the authorization once granted to LATAM Brasil to serve Mount Pleasant in the Malvinas/Falkland Islands from Córdoba has been made official since it was published Tuesday in the Official Gazette. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesThis is a good thing. It paves the way for a visa system to be re-introduced for all visitors from Argentina.
Mar 08th, 2023 - 10:32 am - Link - Report abuse +9”The Argentine Government reiterates its willingness to resume negotiations on sovereignty...
Mar 08th, 2023 - 10:50 am - Link - Report abuse +9Falklands - The Futility of Negotiating Sovereignty With Argentina (1 pg) : https://www.academia.edu/57344689/Falklands_The_Futility_of_Negotiating_Sovereignty_With_Argentina
An inconvenient truth
Well said Steve.
Mar 08th, 2023 - 12:18 pm - Link - Report abuse +12Argentine Politicians and others are so thick and up their own a**** that they cannot understand reality.
their own Constitution no makes it that the only thing they can sit and negotiate about would be the date of a full handover of our homeland to then against our democratic wishes!
Therefore they will not ne any talks- full stop.
Flights- likewise they are so dumb that they do not want to understand that for an Argentine Airline to start a direct flight to here- even if we were to allow it- would mean that Airline recognising the legitimate current Falkland Islands Government as it is FIG that is responsible though out Dept of Civil Aviation and Regulations for all international flights and airservices, aircraft insurances etc- etc.
Yet according to them as a people and an elected Govt - we do not exist!!
Argentina has to be the dumbest country on the planet. They tear up the very agreement that gave them two opportunities to get to the islands. Now they just have one and if our leaders had the inclination to do so they would shut that door as well and that would force Argentina to talk directly and recognise the people of the Falkland Islands. They wont do that because to do so means they weaken their mythical case.
Mar 08th, 2023 - 12:45 pm - Link - Report abuse +6The islanders have nothing to loose. Access to Uruguay and Brazil ensures we dont need to involve Argentina in any links if we so wish.
Surely thay are not daft enough not to know that they cannot ever isolate us.
They achieve absolutely nothing by stopping the Brazil Argentina flight.
They are so living in the distant caveman like past. Big bullies that no longer can throw punches.
Argentina risks loosing valuable trade link with Britain and Britain always has that option to put economic embargoes on Argentina if it so wishes.
Argentina will sooner or later have to change its mythical policies or face total economic ruin all because of this claim to a land they have never owned.
The ICJ will eventually have to be used and while Argentina know that their case would not stand up in court it would quickly destroy their power of control over it's people.
Antarctica is their ultimate goal and the Falklands are right in the way stopping them achieving that goal, so to get around it they insist on claiming sovereignty.
What a total bunch of losers in the 21st century.
It will hurt the Argentines more than the Falklanders,
Mar 08th, 2023 - 01:13 pm - Link - Report abuse +6And they pay people to produce this drivel.
Mar 08th, 2023 - 01:35 pm - Link - Report abuse +7Are we to believe they don’t actually know that the British Gov doesn’t decide Civy flights, the FIG does and also when they start and stop.
There has been no progress on ‘greater connectivity’ with Argentina, because the Islanders (who decide these matters) don’t seem to want any further ‘connectivity’ to Argentina.
Never mind an Argentinian flag carrier landing in the Islands. As I understand it, they don’t allow anything with an Argentinian flag on it in the Islands.
This rejection is hard for the Malvinazis to take, especially coming from a people they deny even exist.
Much easier to blame it on the British, who are clearly doing everything they can to cut all contact between Argentina and its future Colony.
Just follow the yellow brick road Che.
I don't understand why such nonsense is being discussed. It's each one for their side.
Mar 08th, 2023 - 01:59 pm - Link - Report abuse -10Let England blockade South America, and let South America blockade England. In all! Economy, culture, society, sports, technology, navigation.
Everything must be blocked between the two. Between us and them.
Brasileiro. you are correct its a stupid story, and the only people it hurts are the relatives of the dead Argentine soldiers buried in the islands, as for your blockade, why would any other South American country want to get involved in Argentinas petty squabble, they are completely uninterested, as Brazilian governments have said in the past the UK is an important partner, there are 100s of people of Chilean descent living in the islands, Chile will remain a friend, you need to grow up and stop talking silly nonsense about the whole of South America turning on the Falklands, from the few Brazilians i have spoken to, they dont particularly like Argentina and have no interest in the Falklands whatsoever,
Mar 08th, 2023 - 02:14 pm - Link - Report abuse +7In the Falklands itself, I have no interest, but there are many interests in natural resources and in Antarctica where islands can play an important role in the future.
Mar 08th, 2023 - 02:27 pm - Link - Report abuse -10However, this important role will only be played by the islands if there is peace. As we all know, peace has not yet landed on Mt. Pleasant.
Oh, I forgot. England is a colonial power from a world very different and far from here. The same prerogatives that fit England, fit China, Russia, USA, France, Norway, Portugal, Spain, etc etc.
There is piece in the South Atlantic now, its Mount Pleasant that has kept the peace, and Brazil is a colonial remnant, were you have stolen the land from the natives the tue owners of Brazil, think before you write,
Mar 08th, 2023 - 02:41 pm - Link - Report abuse +5Wrong on both counts Malv/Portuguese Planter.
Mar 08th, 2023 - 02:42 pm - Link - Report abuse +6Britain is no longer a ‘Colonial Power’ and hasn’t been for a long time now.
Nor is it ‘far away’, with large areas of British territory in the S. Atlantic and Antarctic next door to S. America.
And yes, the Islands will play an ‘important role’ in the development of British Antarctic Territories, however any ‘peace’ or otherwise with Argentina will be irrelevant to that development.
As long as there is no peace, there will be no future.
Mar 08th, 2023 - 02:57 pm - Link - Report abuse -10And you can, I and all like-minded people will leave like-minded people completely isolated.
Rest assured, those who think like me are the absolute majority that you see with binoculars on the western horizon of your Hybrid State with no tangible value.
Long before the technological evolution of 3D printers capable of printing a tomato occurs, Antarctica will no longer exist as we know it today.
Distances are still very important.
What on earth are you talking about Brasileiro, ??????????
Mar 08th, 2023 - 03:10 pm - Link - Report abuse +5I'm dreaming about logistics.
Mar 08th, 2023 - 03:17 pm - Link - Report abuse -7Brazileiro, just what planet are you on. The reason there is no peace in the South Stlantic is because Argentina is trying to steal our homes.
Mar 08th, 2023 - 04:00 pm - Link - Report abuse +9Do the sums. Do you see Britain shouting abuse that one day it will take over South America. No of course not they are simply defending their territory that Argentina has as yet been unable to prove is theirs. They wont even go to the ICJ because they absolutly know they would not win.
Nobody likes bullies or dictators that was clearly shown in 1982.
Time you started learning the truth about our islands. You have admitted they mean nothing to you but everything to the gateway to Antarctica. That we have always known .
Argentina needs a quick fix financially and these islands is one idea.
Their time is running out and sooner rather than later they are going to be an even bigger economic disaster.
They cannot continue going down that distructive route.
dude, whats the problem, they can fly from Ascencion Island 4000 miles away..
Mar 09th, 2023 - 04:29 am - Link - Report abuse -8we just want flights to be expensive, planes to have to travel miles and miles at half capacity to get to mount pleasant, and fares to be more expensive.
We just want to increase the costs, as much as possible within our precary possibilities, always peacefully,
As much as possible, make defense maintenance more expensive and make it skyrocket to 6000BN would be good.
Every pound loaded on the back of the Scottish middle-class citizen or wage laborer in the UK adds up.
It's called Peaceful and Nonviolent Opposition.
Gandhi was a fervent supporter of peaceful resistance, and was convinced that “non-violence is the greatest force available to humanity. It is mightier than the mightiest weapon of destruction devised by the ingenuity of man.”
It’s strange the Argies no longer want us visiting Cordoba. They forced the idea on us in the first place. Strange, irrational people…
Mar 09th, 2023 - 07:58 am - Link - Report abuse +5So, Argentine Citizen, you decry the piracy that Argentina has used in the recent past? You probably know nothing of the several times Falklands flagged trawlers have been held to ransom by Argentine authorities? You decry the annual exercise your country carries out, regarding re-invading the Falklands? How do you feel about the recent spying mission the TdF university people tried to carry out, the one where they wanted to ascertain how Argentina could establish a similar economy and defence platform in the Falklands?
Mar 09th, 2023 - 09:33 am - Link - Report abuse +7Argentina would love to have to resources to stage an invasion. The main reason they whine every time a new ship replaces the frigate patrolling the seas around the Falklands is because they have nothing to match it.
This negating a flight out of Argentina is all they can do and all it means is that we ought to take a stronger stance when allowing tourists in from Argentina. So, visas and a good rummage through baggage to make sure that no offensive flags or other paraphernalia is being brought in to further annoy Islanders is a good thing. It's called “peaceful protest” and is perfectly legal...
Argentine citizen.
Mar 09th, 2023 - 10:30 am - Link - Report abuse +6You are so out of touch with reality.
For the last forty years we islanders have been using your so called expensive option to fly to the UK.
Distance or indeed cost has never deterred us from going that route and is the much preffered one for us.
As for flying to the south american continent it is just another means of travel that is not that important in the grand scheme of things.
Just a convienanxe for the latin Americans who have chosen to live here, including Argentines, so denying them that access , hurts them , not the local people who have no real desire to travel in that direction.
Of course we are an extremely rich country, so absorbing costs are no problem. What is rewarding is to see Argentina a once mighty country now fall to the bottom of the pit and all because of their obsession of sovereignty.
We have seen the Argentine economy decline for forty years while we have seen our economy rise in that period.
Something tells me we are doing much better than you think.
Your embargoes are clearly not working at all as we simply go around you.
We have time on our side ,Argentina does not.
Do the sums.
There is nothing to stop us sailing or flying to Uruguay or Brazil direct completely bypassing Argentina all together.
Argentina thinks it controls all its neighbours but it dont.
If you tried to put pressure on them you will come of worse.
Britain has good trade relations with those countries so are capable of supporting them.
Argentina to survive needs to move on. Stop living a lie. Stop indoctrinating it's people and make Argentina a great country again.
If they dont they will surely destroy themselves completely.
We live in the 21st century and it is time Argentina started to do the same.
Hate and greed never pay. There is an old saying love thy neighbour and the rewards will follow.
Argentina has failed to do that.
And their you have it Argentine Citizen, you have clearly stated you are trying to bully the Falklands, as for your fantasy of trying to make it too expensive to protect the island from your extreme right wingers 6.000 Billion you said, what planet are you living on, start living in the real world, The islanders need nothing from you,
Mar 09th, 2023 - 10:41 am - Link - Report abuse +5Think politics should be put aside for a moment and put people first.
Mar 09th, 2023 - 12:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Transportation to and from the islands by sea and airlines, trade, tourism, ocean conservation agreement, teachers from the islands can teach English and teachers from the mainland can teach Spanish.
The islands will not be Argentine because a plane from a certain airline lands in Mount Pleasant.
A minimal agreement is possible.
1833, i will agree to that providing its an independent airline company and no flag, otherwise the nutters in the Argentine government will use it as a political tool.
Mar 09th, 2023 - 01:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Malvinense 1833, rationality is a great way forward.Perhaps there is a time paradox, as I believe the islanders are still living in the 1980s.
Mar 09th, 2023 - 02:15 pm - Link - Report abuse -4@Brasileiro, no, we're very happy in a peaceful 2023, thank you. It is Argentina that continues to adopt bullying and harassment as their tools of choice. And, Malvinense, we have no interest in a so-called “minimal agreement”. There have been agreements in the past and as long as they are serving Argentina, Argentina is fine but once we start to benefit, they don't like it.
Mar 09th, 2023 - 03:07 pm - Link - Report abuse +6Let's face it, Argentina is in a mess and wants to draw the populace's attention away from 96% inflation, poverty and a floundering government. It wants a colony. Pure and simple. “It's part of our Constitution”! So, do what you did before and change your constitution, like Chile is doing right now. “We can't pay our respects to our dead”! So take them back. Just leave us alone and try to fix your economy.
Mr Brazil, you do talk some rubbish, go educate yourself and find the real history of the Falklands not the lying propaganda of a corrupt government, the islanders have moved on massively from the 80s,. they neither need or want anything from Buenos Aires. it is they who live in the past, rewrite history and relive the war through bullying,
Mar 09th, 2023 - 03:43 pm - Link - Report abuse +4Mr Anglo-Saxão
Mar 09th, 2023 - 04:57 pm - Link - Report abuse -3The Lord is what we call “Traíra” in our land. He uses (or actually has) a playful name in our society to stab at the legitimate interests of our history.
The displaced are you, not us. We fight and survive alone for the conquest of this vast continent, not an empty island in the middle of nowhere.
You are nothing but arrogant beings.
Once again Brazil. talking a load of cobblers, the Falklanders have more right than you Portuguese Brazilians to live in the South Atlantic, the Falklands were empty. You STOLE the land from the true owners, and you are nothing but arrogant racist fascist uneducated clowns who are clueless about history, keep your nose out of things you have no knowledge of, we fight and survive alone for this vast continent, whos that ? every white man that pinched South America from the natives, what about French Guiana, Dutch Suriname and Guyana, thank goodness racists like you are in the mInority, GROW UP.
Mar 09th, 2023 - 05:44 pm - Link - Report abuse +3“...We fight and survive alone for the conquest of this vast continent...” You invaded and stole from the indigenous population, you mean? You don't conquer land, you conquer people.
Mar 10th, 2023 - 09:42 am - Link - Report abuse +2Bras
Mar 10th, 2023 - 02:47 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Talking of implanted populations and Stinking Kurepi Murderers:
Where is your sidekick Stinka Winka the Patagonian Squatter, Danish Dribbler, these days???
Finally disappeared up his own Asshole, perchance???
The British Empire was the greatest human-killing machine history has ever seen.
Mar 10th, 2023 - 03:26 pm - Link - Report abuse -2- 50 million indigenous people in North America
- 06 million aborigines in Oceania
- 95 million Africans
- 75 million Europeans
- 45 million Chinese
- 80 million Asians
And, an unbelievable 100 million Hindus.
There's a lot the British Empire has to pay for.
What a disgusting lying clueless P O S you are Brasileiro. thank god the majority of Brazilians are not like you,
Mar 10th, 2023 - 03:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You should watch a western movie and count how many Indians die on their horses crossing a river or dancing the “rain dance”.
Mar 10th, 2023 - 04:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Canadian films are more realistic, showing child rape and violence. I don't advise you to see it.
Its clear for some reason that you have an hate problem with the UK, why i dont know Brazil and the UK have always had reasonably good relations unlike Brazil with Argentina,, so some advice for you , grow up, get educated and get deprogrammed from the hateful little world you live in, and apologise to the natives of Brazil for stealing there land and almost wiping them out,
Mar 10th, 2023 - 04:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't have hate. Having hate is not good.
Mar 10th, 2023 - 04:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I try to be realistic and show how much ignorance there is in this world.
Be happy.
The problem is Brasil you have a lot of the ignorance inside you as your posts clearly demonstrate, Realistic ? when ?, when you said BRICS could defeat NATO, when you have your next weeks holiday, go to the nearest library and study world history, world politics and open your mind, you will be amazed what you do not know,
Mar 10th, 2023 - 04:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am, and most likely my country is, an ardent defender of the multipolarity represented in the BRICS.
Mar 10th, 2023 - 04:54 pm - Link - Report abuse -3My country did not send a single cartridge to war in Ukraine for that reason. Because we know that nowadays there will be no winner in a war that has nuclear weapons in the way.
I consider myself a pacifist. I wish there wasn't a mechanism to propagate hate and wars like NATO
Russia is also not on the right side.
Brazilio.
Mar 10th, 2023 - 06:01 pm - Link - Report abuse +3You say Russia is also not on the right side. I will tell you neither is Argentina yet you appear to support them in what they are trying to do.
Again as someone has already said. You need to go and read up on the History and while you are doing that find the time that it officially states Argentina ever had a legal say in our islands.
Also look up about Spain removing the British from port Egmont in 1765.
Does that not also constitute an act of aggression or as your lot would say usurping.
No Argentina dont want to talk about that because as a country Argentina actually did not exist.
Everything they have claimed is in truth a fabricated lie. It was also a violent breach of the United nations agreement.
You support this without doing your homework.
You must be the only Brazillian who thinks Argentina should be allowed to bully a people.
We trade with Beazil and have a good understanding with them, so what is grinding your axe.
My English is poor. I couldn't translate it right, neither by my mind nor Google's.
Mar 10th, 2023 - 06:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Please rephrase the question more succinctly.
@Falklands-Free did u realized that on your logics you are the right side spain was bad, Rusia is worong, china is worong, chagosians are worong, argentina is worong, rest of the world is on worong side?
Mar 10th, 2023 - 09:23 pm - Link - Report abuse -3Argentine_citizan.
Mar 11th, 2023 - 06:55 am - Link - Report abuse +3Two wongs dont make a white.
However first you have to truly understand right from wrong.
In my book right is not being lied to.
Wrong is indoctrination.
Right is not being selfish or greedy.
Wrong is the opposite Argentina and the likes of Russia fit that bill.
Right is protecting the vulnerable from aggression.
Wrong is being aggressive. Again Argentina and Russia two good examples.
Right is when you are able to live the life of your choosing.
Wrong is refusing to allow you to have any rights. Again Argentina and Russia are two good examples of wrong.
Now of course there is that third party, Mr nosey who thinks they can stir up more agrow by throwing in their ten pence. Brazileio fits that category .
Remember everyone has a right to live their lives without fear anywhere on this planet and to ensure that this right is upheld , some have to stand up to bullies. The old saying, crime never pays. You will get dealt your just deserts.
Karma is a known.
Two wongs dont make a white (agree).
Mar 11th, 2023 - 10:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0However first you have to truly understand right from wrong (and you are not the right side).
In my book right is not being lied to.
Wrong is indoctrination (and your idoctrinated).
Right is not being selfish or greedy ( your country invaded, raped, robbed or conquest 90% of world countrys, so define gredy).
Wrong is the opposite Argentina and the likes of Russia fit that bill (i had other view, ur at that side).
Right is protecting the vulnerable from aggression (ur the agressor of argentina, or chagossians for example).
Wrong is being aggressive. Again Argentina and Russia two good examples. (you are the agressor, top 5 budget on army)
Right is when you are able to live the life of your choosing. (doit, not on an stoled land, the people living in 1833 didint had that right.. they were invited to leave or stay acepting queen.)
Wrong is refusing to allow you to have any rights. Again Argentina and Russia are two good examples of wrong. (again more trash, u raped all rights of countrys along globe.. last years afghanistan or lybia for example)
Now of course there is that third party, Mr nosey who thinks they can stir up more agrow by throwing in their ten pence. Brazileio fits that category .
Remember everyone has a right to live their lives without fear anywhere on this planet and to ensure that this right is upheld , some have to stand up to bullies. The old saying, crime never pays. You will get dealt your just deserts. (you are criminal, dont respect UN statements.)
Karma is a known.
Argentine_Cityzen.
Mar 12th, 2023 - 12:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0Notice there was no mention of the fact SPAIN removed the people from Port Egmont in 1765. Years before Your excuse for a Country existed. You only see what you want to see.
This Country has never been owned by you period. You are the one still living on a stolen land from the South American Indigenous People, but you do not recognise that fact because it does not support your argument.
Everything you say is indoctrinated into your twisted evil thinking existence.
You would never accept the truth even if it were to bite you. Argentina is and always has been a lie.
The only reason you respond to comments on here or indeed on any platform is because you want an argument with anything British. You are so besotted (indoctrinated) by your government that you are compelled to challenge everything someone posts that is not Argentine. Time you moved into the twenty first century. People have moved on.
Now I suggest you call into question your retarded government and ask them why it is they tell you so many lies, ask them why they have never taken this case to the Internation Court of justice.
Get that answer then come back on here with the real reason. I know what that reason is but do you.
Fact is Argentina does not have a case. That is why they refuse to go in that direction.
Neither do you.
@Falklands-Free
Mar 12th, 2023 - 03:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0there was no mention because you didn't ask me.
As a point and aside, it is worth mentioning that said settlement was completely military with no civilians and between 1766 and 1774.
A big contradiction to Pascoe&Pepper's story, because according to the story in his pamphlet he says that this settlement was legitimate and on the other hand the settlement of Port Louis between 1820 and 1833 amusingly says that it was a “garrison”
Prior to the settlement of port egdmont, the french and spanish were on the islands.
And in my opinion (personal opinion) there it was an acquisitive prescription from Spain towards the United Kingdom and the settlement of Port Egdmont became legitimate.
Later Spain and the United Kingdom have a dispute and your country ends up signing an exit pact (Masserano&Rotchford) and leaving in 1774.
when argentina takes possession of the island (a different island than port egdmont since you only claimed saunders island on your license plate).
More than 50 years had already passed and there was an acquisitive prescription.
In 1820 the islands were null land under international law.
“In 1820 the islands were null land under international law.”
Mar 12th, 2023 - 03:48 am - Link - Report abuse +1'As late as 1886 the Secretary of State found it necessary to inform the Argentine Government that as “the resumption of actual occupation of the Falkland Islands by Great Britain in 1833 took place under a claim of title which had been previously asserted and maintained by that Government, it is not seen that the Monroe Doctrine, which has been invoked on the part of the Argentine Republic, has any application to the case. By the terms in which that principle of international conduct was announced, it was expressly excluded from retroactive operation.”
P.60 Sovereignty and the Falkland Islands Crisis D.W. Greig
”under a claim of title which had been previously asserted and maintained by that Government(UK)”
Mar 12th, 2023 - 06:10 am - Link - Report abuse -1Really? and when exactly it was previously asserted and maintained claim before 1833? because 55 years of silence passed (without objections) until first british protest in 1829..
And your country signed an exit agreement with spain in 1774 (masserano-Rochtford) and left the islands empty..
even more,,, your country had a settlement on a different island than the one they attacked and occupied and at the time they only claimed the sounders island in theory.. According to the plate they left.-
They attacked a different settlement, on a different island and another place
It was clearly in the public domain as Americans asserted.
Mar 12th, 2023 - 07:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0No, they didn’t as no proof to this claim has ever surfaced.
'The British Foreign Secretary at the time, Lord Palmerston, ... ... On 27 July 1849, in reply to a question in the House of Commons, he said:
“... a claim had been made many years ago, on the part of Buenos Ayres, to the Falkland Islands, and had been resisted by the British Government. Great Britain had always disputed and denied the claim of Spain to the Falkland Islands, and she was not therefore willing to yield to Buenos Ayres what had been refused to Spain.”
The UK can rely on the Peace of Utrecht, which explicitly bars any Argentine claim of succession.
“...it is hereby further agreed and concluded, that neither the Catholic King, nor any of his heirs and successors whatsoever, shall sell, yield, pawn, transfer, or by any means, or under any name, alienate from them and the crown of Spain, to the French, or to any other nations whatever, any lands, dominions, or territories, or any part thereof, belonging to Spain in America.”
U never had a settlemen at port egdmont.. it was a temporary garrison, without civilians.
Mar 12th, 2023 - 09:16 am - Link - Report abuse -1As u say, vettel say a few years settlemen is not enought for prove sogverany.. british where there from 1768 to 1774 with empty lapses.
And port louis already existed before.
After your exit by masserano-rotchford agreement 36 spanish governors passed without british objection... and argentina took posesion of an empty islands (null land) in 1822
55 years of silence until 1829..
*argentina took posession in 1820, and started the concesion with pacheco.
Mar 12th, 2023 - 09:21 am - Link - Report abuse -1There it was a prosperous town, first civilian human development at the islands.. with first human births there. They were evicted and never could come back
Argentine_citizen.
Mar 12th, 2023 - 10:18 am - Link - Report abuse +1You continue to waffle on about something you clearly know little about.
Rather than continue to dispute everyone else who has input. Do like I said earlier.
Take your myth to the ICJ let them alone decide who is actually right.
You drone on about France and Spain being on the islands at the same time. Fact is they were not. Fact is Argentina certainly was not on or even near the Islands between 1764 and 1820. Argentina actually did not exist . They were still classed as a part of the Spanish Empire. They had not even at that time stolen further land south of BA.
So you know nothing. Like i said take the case to the ICJ let them decide.
Argentina will never do that and the proof is in the time over the last 190 years or more.
All Argentina does is keep the myth alive to keep you Argentines suppressed. Seen that in 1982.
We are likely to see an internal revolt that will eventually destroy Argentina . You can fool some of the people some of the time but not all of the people all of the time.
The writing is on the wall.
You still think you are the Spanish empire, well you are not and never will be. Your country is on the brink of economic collapse and the myth about the Falkland Islands is used to ensure the people stay calm.
The islanders are very close to oil extraction and that is why today we see Argentina acting more aggressively than it has been since before 1982.
Move on , you are fighting a lost cause.
Most Argentines are sick of this continued claim. They have far more important needs than another piece of territory to worry about.
You need to be looking at your poverty rate, it is appalling, yet you spend millions you dont have to chase a dream.
Time to wake up and smell the Rose's.
After your exit by masserano-rotchford agreement”. Rubbish, no proof no truth.
Mar 12th, 2023 - 10:53 am - Link - Report abuse +1Spain was forced into this Declaration, otherwise England would have declared war
The agreement as actually signed in London on 22 January 1771 merely stated:... that the engagement of his said Catholick Majesty [the king of Spain], to restore to his Britannick Majesty the possession of the port and fort called Egmont, cannot nor ought in any wise to affect the question of the prior right of sovereignty of the Malouine islands, otherwise called Falkland's Islands.In other words, the question of the prior right of sovereignty was left as it had been before the dispute both countries' rights were left untouched, Britain's as well as Spain's
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“36 spanish governors passed without british objection”, and without their knowledge.
Otherwise they would have served the same offer they made Spain.
Regardless, Convention of Settlement, 1850, legally finished any all further territorial disputes
Argy_Planter
Mar 12th, 2023 - 02:01 pm - Link - Report abuse +4‘Argentine settlement began in 1820’.
By 1820 the Islands were long established British territory.
First you need to prove when exactly it was that the Islands stopped being British territory, for any later actions to be considered the basis for a valid claim.
Violations of established British sovereignty by Argentina, do not constitute a valid sovereignty claim for Argentina.
Also, the Masserano-Rochtford treaty was signed in 1771, not 1774, in it the Spanish, having been threatened with war, agree to hand back the British settlement unconditionally:
https://www.fiassociation.com/shopimages/pdfs/1.%201771%20Agreement%20between%20the%20British%20and%20Spanish%20Governments.pdf
Nowhere is there any mention of any ‘British withdrawal’.
It was entirely and only a British choice to withdraw.
Unless of course, you have any EVIDENCE to the contrary???
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