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Argentina tries to collect toll from Paraguay for Parana waterway traffic
As of Monday last week, Argentina's General Administration of Ports (AGP) started issuing invoices for “navigation settlements of the previous months.” In other words, a fee began to be collected for the passage of Paraguayan cargo through the Santa Fe-Confluencia section. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesThere's only one way to deal with Argentine pirates...
Mar 22nd, 2023 - 02:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0Didn’t this sort of thing cause wars, in the past?
Mar 22nd, 2023 - 01:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Educate yourselves...,Turnips...
Mar 22nd, 2023 - 06:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The current treaty with Paraguay does clearly state (as do the similar treaties with Uruguay and Bolivia..., btw...) that navegation on the Parana river is “ free for Argentine and Paraguayan vessels on equal footing”..
- “Each Party of the treaty concedes to the vessels of the other Party equal treatment than to its own vessels in every aspect related to their passage...”
https://www.argentina.gob.ar/normativa/nacional/150705/texto
Now..., Argentina has indeed established recently a fee of US$ 1.47 per ton of net registration for EVERYBODY...
- Be it NATIONAL or FOREIGN vessels circulating through the waterway in the Santa Fe-Confluencia section will have to pay for the necessary dredging, signaling and maintenance of the commercial waterway...
“Equal Footing” for all..., just as the Treaty reads...
Capisce...?
The National Socialist Anti-semitic Gauchito Drink seems to be unable to understand the word “free.” Not a surprise given the fact that he is, like a sad proportion of his “countrymen,” just another scamming chantapufi...
Mar 22nd, 2023 - 07:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0TWIMC...
Mar 22nd, 2023 - 08:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There ain't no such thing as a “Free” lunch...
The Free World may be “Free” but it surely ain't gratis...
The German Autobahn's are “Free”, but if you're fatter than 7.000 kg..., they ain't gratis...
The Shilean Strait of Magellan is free for any sailor..., who pays their obligatory pilotage fee...
And so one and so forth...
Capisce...?
Typical, correct insofar as what it says, answer from Stinka Winka there.
Mar 23rd, 2023 - 02:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Article 6 of the treaty does indeed say Equality of Treatment, in all operations.
But as usual he completely omits the more relevant article in this:
Article 5: No tax, obligation, fee, contribution or exemption on the transport, vessels or their shipments, based only on the act of navigation can be established without previous agreement between the signatory countries.
http://www.sice.oas.org/services/english/sv_p234.asp
This ‘toll’ would appear to be straightforward daylight robbery.
Geeeeeeee....
Mar 23rd, 2023 - 05:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why can't the the Brainwasshed Anglo Turnips not even read a simple document to the end...???...:
- “Article 9: The freedom of traffic of vessels, goods and persons of the signatary countries in the Hydro Way is recognized and only the returning fee for the services effectively offered can be charged.”
http://www.sice.oas.org/services/english/sv_p234.asp
(As I already made clear on me above posting..., the services offered and charged to ALL SHIPS NAVIGATING the Santa Fé - Confluencia section of the Paraná river..., are paying for the necessary dredging, signaling and maintenance of that sedimentologically complicated section of tha river...)
Capisce...?
Stink, you’re talking rubbish.
Mar 24th, 2023 - 12:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0‘Fee for the services effectively offered can be charged’.
‘No tax, obligation, fee, contribution or exemption on the transport, vessels or their shipments, based only on the act of navigation can be established’.
Go figure, or are two different things too complicated for you???
Also, who has been paying for this ‘necessary dredging, signaling and maintenance’, up until now???
The agreement has been in place for 30 years +.
Suddenly maintenance costs are an issue, that never were before and you think this is believable???
Like I said, this ‘toll’ is straightforward daylight robbery.
What else could be expected from a Brainwashed Anglo Turnip...?
Mar 24th, 2023 - 06:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Facts about the Upper Paraná River fee situation are as follows...:
1) Undersandably..., the Paraguayan government..., defending their National interests..., have asked the Argentinean government to present to the OAS the pertinent documentation for the services rendered to enable the safe navigation of the upper Paraná river and the calculation method used to reach the applied fee...
2) The Argentinean government has duly obliged..., and all pertinent documentation is already in the hands of the OAS...
3) In the meantime..., whilst waiting for the pertinent OAS opinion..., both sides behave nicely...
https://paraguayfluvial.com/gobierno-argentino-se-compromete-a-revisar-cobro-de-peaje-en-la-hidrovia-y-pide-a-paraguay-presentar-un-plan/
Capisce...?
Stinka Winka
Mar 25th, 2023 - 01:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So, you are now saying this is a ‘Fee for the services effectively offered’.
Rather than a ‘tax, obligation, fee, contribution or exemption on the transport, vessels or their shipments, based only on the act of navigation’.
With me so far???
However the article says:
‘Argentina established a tax of US$ 1.47 per ton of net registration for international vessels circulating on the waterway, in the Santa Fe-Confluencia section. The fee has been applied since January and Argentina now intends to collect’
Which directly contradicts your statement.
Also as I said before, if this is for maintenance, how come it has never been charged before???
This is clearly a ‘new levy’, not an adjustment of existing charges hence the opposition to it.
As for the link posted, did you read the article???
It says ‘Argentina's intention to apply a toll on the Paraguay-Paraná Waterway’.
Which again directly contradicts your statement.
Also no mention of submissions to the OAS, only Argentina asked Paraguay to make a proposal for a solution to this issue, where the proposal from Paraguay is that Argentina should cancel the measure.
Question is, what is Argentina going to do when the Paraguayans refuse to pay this robbery? This has the potential to escalate.
Like I said, this ‘toll’ is straightforward daylight robbery.
TWIMC...
Mar 26th, 2023 - 07:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0-Due to the participation on this thread of two warmongering Brainwashed Anglo Turnips (and me soft spot for a good..., bergamot scented cuppa) ..., i'll use this opportunity to highlight the 100 years auld but still RELEVANT & PARAMOUNT DECALOUGE of ARTHUR AUGUSTUS WILLIAM HARRY PONSONBY..., 1st Baron of Shulbrede..., politician, writer, and social activist..., son of Sir Henry Ponsonby, Private Secretary to Queen Victoria and Mary Elizabeth Bulteel, daughter of John Crocker Bulteel... He was also the great-grandson of The 3rd Earl of Bessborough..., the 3rd Earl of Bathurst and the 2nd EARL GREY...:
1) We do not want war...
2) The opposite party alone is guilty of war...
3) The enemy is inherently evil and resembles the devil...
4) We defend a noble cause, not our own interests...
5) The enemy commits atrocities on purpose; our mishaps are involuntary...
6) The enemy uses forbidden weapons...
7) We suffer small losses, those of the enemy are enormous...
8) Recognized artists and intellectuals back our cause...
9) Our cause is sacred...
10) All who doubt our propaganda are traitors...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ef/Queen_Victoria_and_her_page%2C_Arthur_Ponsonby.jpg
CAPISCE...?
Way to go, when you’ve lost the argument drag it off topic, and raise a total irrelevancy.
Mar 26th, 2023 - 01:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Geeeeeeeee...
Mar 26th, 2023 - 03:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Pugol-H & Terence Hill...!
I coldn't have paired a better Brainwashed Anglo Turnip couple meself...
As we say in Spanish...: “Diós los cría y ellos se juntan”... (Birds of a feather flock together ;-)
Capisce...?
Aha! You’ve really lost the plot. Is that the best you can do, ad hominem? Give your head a shake, pathetic.
Mar 26th, 2023 - 04:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Pfft....
Mar 26th, 2023 - 07:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Like I said, this ‘toll’ is straightforward daylight robbery.
Mar 27th, 2023 - 01:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Commenting for this story is now closed.
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