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Orkney Islands councilor feels Scotland has failed them dreadfully and suggests joining Norway
The Orkney Islands could change their status in the UK or even become a self-governing territory of Norway under new proposals. A motion will go before the council next week to investigate “alternative forms of governance”. Council leader James Stockan said Orkney does not get fair funding with its current relationship with the UK. Read full article
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Jul 03rd, 2023 - 07:56 am - Link - Report abuse -1You're more than welcome to re-join your Viking Fædreland ...,
Just remember to take them beautiful Shetlandsøyane with you..., dear Orcadians...
https://www.information.dk/sites/information.dk/files/styles/1920x/public/media/2017/11/07/ritzau_23355039.jpg?itok=NdKLCfoc
So tell me, what makes them Orkniers think they have a right to go?
Jul 03rd, 2023 - 11:14 am - Link - Report abuse -1Are they listed at the UN as a NSGT, like the Falklands?
No.
Their main “beef” as I understand is with Edinburgh and has been for some time- little support in Orkneys or Shetlands for Scottish Independence. Hence the interest in looking at Isle of Man or Channel Is Status or even B.O.T, like Gib-Bermuda-Falklands etc.- or Norway as 0slo is closer than Edinburgh.
Jul 03rd, 2023 - 11:32 am - Link - Report abuse +1Orkney and Shetlands issues are with the governance of the Nationalistic SNP in Edinburgh , not the British government,
Jul 03rd, 2023 - 11:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0Mr Think
Jul 03rd, 2023 - 12:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What about the auld Kingdom of Suðr-eyjar. Ain’t we invited to defect?
Anyways - the interest is more to do with with the Norwegian Wealth Fund, than them delightful blonde blue eyed Agnethas ’ and Björns’.
Mr JC you may be interested in learning about devolved and reserved powers…
https://www.parliament.scot/about/how-parliament-works/devolved-and-reserved-powers
It is so funny that Stink down votes every comment i make, he must be a little but hurt, lol,
Jul 03rd, 2023 - 12:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0TWIMC...
Jul 03rd, 2023 - 12:24 pm - Link - Report abuse -2Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.... Just imagine...
With the current UK's “Fish & Chips” prices and all that Oil in “THEIR” territorial waters...
Them ~45,000 Northern Kelpers could become what them Southern Kelpers dream 'bout...
Chuckle..., chuckle...
Urgent troll alert, the saddest most boring most immature man baby in the world posting drivel again,
Jul 03rd, 2023 - 12:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0get a life you sad boring man child,
Mr. Eilean Siar...
Jul 03rd, 2023 - 01:11 pm - Link - Report abuse -1The auld Kingdom of Suðr-eyjar is..., of course..., always invited to rejoin...!
Easy-peasy enough for ya' lads & lasses to do... Just fly your flag the right way... ;-)
https://britishcountyflags.files.wordpress.com/2016/12/img_8670.jpg
Capisce...?
Mr Think
Jul 03rd, 2023 - 01:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They must have received the invite - already sailing east in them Birlinns, home to Nirribhidh : )
Mr. Eilean Siar...
Jul 03rd, 2023 - 03:20 pm - Link - Report abuse -1You say...:
- “They must have received the invite - already sailing east in them Birlinns, home to Nirribhidh”
I say...:
- Who can blame them..., with all those delightful, blonde, blue eyed, wealthy Agnethas’ and Björns’ to the East...?
Whatever the Orkneys decide to do. It’s a little thung that our neighbours across the water don’t recognise called self determination. But like the Viking hordes we are bound to be subject to the pillaging of a little mind. Wait for it folks it won’t be a rapier wit just that of a letter opener. We all know to whom I refer.
Jul 03rd, 2023 - 10:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0TWIMC...
Jul 04th, 2023 - 07:28 am - Link - Report abuse +1- As much as I would luuuuv to see all them beautiful Norse Isles returning to their Scandinavian womb..., chances for it to happen are negligibly small... :-(
- Them Engrish have already uttered their last word 'bout the question...:
“The motion was given short shrift by the UK government in London.
First and foremost, there is no mechanism for the conferral of Crown dependency or overseas territory status on any part of the UK.... Prime Minister Rishi Sunak's spokesman told reporters...
But fundamentally, we are stronger as one United Kingdom..., we have no plans to change that...' he added.”
https://www.rte.ie/news/world/2023/0703/1392480-orkney-uk-norway-split/
- Funny though..., that them Engrish Sassenach Lowlanders won't accept the validity of the...: “PEOPLE's SELF-DETERMINATION PRINCIPLE” for their own citizens in their own (Orknøyene) soil..., but are more than happy to fully embrace the validity of the same...: “PEOPLE's SELF-DETERMINATION PRINCIPLE” for their own citizens in foreign (Islas Malvinas) soil...
Brainwash..., double standards and doublespeak anyone... ?
What 'Peoples self-determination' principle Trunks?
Jul 04th, 2023 - 08:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0Since when was Orkney listed as a NSGT?
Those that are, have it - all the way up to cession. Those that ain't .... don't
https://falklandstimeline.files.wordpress.com/2021/11/shrinking-self-determination-the-chagos-opinion-of-the-international-court-of-justice-by-jan-klabbers-2019.pdf
Educate yourself..., copper...
Jul 04th, 2023 - 11:09 am - Link - Report abuse -2This...: “Peoples self-determination principle”....:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/self_determination_(international_law)#:~:text=Self%2Ddetermination%20denotes%20the%20legal,a%20number%20of%20international%20treaties.
You know...
The one you Anglos misused to justify your intervention in the Kosovo Conflict... (Brainwash)
The one you Anglos misused to justify your intervention in the Syrian Conflict... (Brainwash)
The same you Anglos completely ignore in the Palestinian Conflict...(Double-Standards)
The same you Anglos misuse to justify your “Help” in the Ukraine Conflict...(Double-Standards)
The very same you Anglos misuse to justify your occupation of the Malvinas Isles...(Doublespeak)
Capisce...?
Do try to keep up Trunks
Jul 04th, 2023 - 10:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0https://falklandstimeline.files.wordpress.com/2021/11/shrinking-self-determination-the-chagos-opinion-of-the-international-court-of-justice-by-jan-klabbers-2019.pdf
Geeeeeee..., copper...
Jul 05th, 2023 - 05:00 am - Link - Report abuse -2Ya' are really putting your foot in the fire-ant hill this time...
Ya' serving the truth that the “Peoples Self-Determination Principle” ain't for everybody too harshly...
- Your Brainwashed Anglo Turnip followers above seem in disarray.... They are even voting you DOWN... :-)))
- Just imagine the face of poor Anglo poster “FIdescendent” above...!
You just destroyed his LA-LA LAND fantasy 'bout“...: ”Whatever the Orkneys decide to do...“
Now..., Copper..., as you should know...:
- ”Neither the right of self-determination nor the principle of territorial integrity are absolute. Both must be applied in the context of the Charter and human rights treaties so as to serve the purposes and principles of the United Nations.“
- And that's PRECISELY WHY..., the pertinent UN body repeats constantly..., in almost each one of their documents the same paragraph about the Malvinas/Falklands issue being a...: - ”SPECIAL AND PARTICULAR CASE”...
Capisce...?
C24 Trunks? Don't make me laugh. UK has not engaged with the C24 since 1972 and the C24 has not recommended one of its Falklands resolutions for adoption by the UN since at least 200 when the format of the annual report changed. The C24 is a pantomime. Every year it adopts by consensus a resolution it knows that it will not recommend. A farce. The C24 is of no relevance, Trunks.
Jul 05th, 2023 - 07:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0And I still do not THINK that you read this.
https://falklandstimeline.files.wordpress.com/2021/11/shrinking-self-determination-the-chagos-opinion-of-the-international-court-of-justice-by-jan-klabbers-2019.pdf
Self-determination comes in two colours, internal and external. Seems that only the NSGTs are entitled to the external version that includes cession. Seems the “Peoples Self-Determination Principle” just isn't to the taste of UN members.
Go learn, old man.
Geeee..., Copper...
Jul 05th, 2023 - 09:42 am - Link - Report abuse -1- As your opinion about the UN sems to be nailed fast to the Brutish oak floor with 11 inches long silver spikes..., there ain't no much incentive in debating no UN with you...
But..., luckily for the Orcadians, Shetlanders Hebrideans, Scots, Irish, Welsh and the rest of them unwashed peripherals around ..., Perfidious Albion doesn't need no nasty UN-ians, EUians or RGians to sort its Colonial matters..., nooooo Sir...
In perfect Engrish Democracy..., London will vote what's best for them...
-As the wise, witty & almighty Democrat leader of the Anglospere (currently guiding all of us to what's best for all of us...) said just the other day...
GOD SAVE THE QUEEN..., MAAAN...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhEHD-iAZ9k&pp=ygUYQmlkZW4gZ29kIHNhdmUgdGhlIHF1ZWVu
Capisce...?
If 99% (or even 50.1%) of the inhabitants of the Orkney or Shetland Islanders despised the British government, wanted absolutely nothing to do with them, had been invaded, bullied lied about and dismissed by the British government for half a century....and wanted to be part of Norway or even Australia, I am sure the British people would be very happy to let them go.
Jul 09th, 2023 - 06:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0However. that isn't the case.
But nice to see Think supporting self-determination of islanders....I would say there was hope he may learn humility and decency....but of course there isn't
TWIMC...
Jul 10th, 2023 - 02:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Tha' good Orkney's Council Leader..., Mr. James Stockan better has full audiovisual documentation and at least four (4) friendly eyewitnesses for every single act of consensual rape he has commited in the last ~forty (40) years...
The last thing we need or want is an Orcadian Julian Assange..., right...?
Capisce...?
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