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Falklands Day celebration in the Islands and London
Today 14th August the Falkland Islands are celebrating when 432 years ago in 1592, English explorer John Davis recorded the first sighting of the Falkland Islands from aboard the vessel “Desire”. Read full article
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Aug 14th, 2024 - 12:10 pm - Link - Report abuse +3It is easy to prove and debunk that the islands were not sighted by the United Kingdom first. Americo Vespusius, Magellan sight it long time before..
Aug 14th, 2024 - 03:58 pm - Link - Report abuse -5In any case, the sightings do not constitute bases of sovereignty... But if they did, Davis was not the first. Copernicus sighted the moon and identified its craters... the moon is not from Italy... Colon sighted America, and that does not make it a Spanish possession
Argentina believes that she inherited title to the Falkland Islands from Spain.
Aug 14th, 2024 - 04:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina's Inheritance Problem 1 pg): https://www.academia.edu/44496176/Argentina_did_not_inherit_the_Falkland_Islands_from_Spain
Argie Zit, for the 1000th time, no one knows for certain who saw thew islands first, but one thing is certain is that Britain was the first to claim them, neither Spain, Portugal, France or the Netherlands have ever said they claimed them first and have never denied the British claimed them first, its only in your indoctrinated RG propaganda that claims others did, clearly they did not, so take your pathetic arguments and take them to the ICJ, otherwise STFU, you bore people with this pathetic nonsense,
Aug 14th, 2024 - 04:12 pm - Link - Report abuse +4Argentine Zit
Aug 15th, 2024 - 10:24 am - Link - Report abuse +4It has taken many years but you have finally said something true...“sightings do not constitute basis of sovereignty”.
Well done. You have achieved step 1.
Step 2 is to understand that Spain did indeed have sovereignty of East Falkland for 30 years, but they vacated the islands before Argentine Independence, and the inhabitants returned to Spain voluntarily. This is also not the basis for Argentine sovereignty.
Step 3 is to understand that the private business of a German entrepreneur that was on the islands for 3 years, who left voluntarily in 1831 when the business failed is also not the basis for Argentine sovereignty.
Step 4 is to understand that not a single person left the islands on January 6th 1833 that didn't want to. Pinedo and his crew already planned to return to Argentina, the civilians had already planned to leave with him, and the militia had already requested to leave on the Rapid. There was never an usurpation. This is not the basis for Argentine sovereignty.
Britain had a historic claim, there was no population on the islands, Britain established a population that has lived on the islands for 190 years, and pretty much has autonomy to run their affairs. This is the basis of Falkland Islander sovereignty.
You managed Step 1 in 10 years.....hopefully after 50 years you might get there.
Arg Cit.
Aug 15th, 2024 - 01:09 pm - Link - Report abuse +5First of all the United Kingdom did not exist in 1592.
Second Vespucci didn't go anywhere near the FI. The furthest south he went was where Rio is now and even that is disputed as it is clear that the records of two of alleged four voyages are forgeries.
Thirdly there is no mention in Magellan's log of the FI nor anything like them.
Don't agree with me? then prove me wrong.
Always trying to impose in writing to the world your misinforming propaganda and geopolitical agenda's aren't you?? When are you going to stop pretending to take whatever you want from the world??
Aug 16th, 2024 - 07:53 am - Link - Report abuse -3It is fairly certain and demonstrated by historians scholars and records in many places, that the Malvinas Islands were indeed sighted by CATHOLIC (that's what you hate) explorers from either Spain or Portugal.
All you need to do in order to be sincere unpretentious people is say “The first sighting of the Islands by an English explorer” - But you don't want to say that, and choose to imply the first sighting ever. Why? Because that's what your egotistical greed drives you to do.
Titmonde/Trimonge, You have the gall to say misinforming propaganda, Your pathetic dubious claim is built on exactly that, who gives a toss who sighted them first, your whole post is nothing but drivel , hate and BS, no one hates Catholics, Spanish or Portuguese or Italians , if you look at Juans post he says no one knows who sighted them first, its pathetic fanatic clowns like you that cause hate and division, so like Juan said in a previous post, jog on you pathetic troll,
Aug 16th, 2024 - 08:17 am - Link - Report abuse +3Well, whether it was the English, Dutch, Portuguese or Spanish who first sighted the Islands it was not Argentina.
Aug 16th, 2024 - 06:04 pm - Link - Report abuse +3Same with sovereignty claims, whoever claimed them first it was not Argentina.
It should be remembered that Argentina came very late to the game as it didn’t yet exist when these things happened.
Hence an Argentine claim that is totally reliant on irrelevancies like ‘proximity’ (Where the British would have a much better claim to Patagonia and TDF than Argentina does) and a pirated version of Spanish history.
Unlike the British, Argentina has no direct claim to the territory by itself, so it pretends that the British history of the region doesn’t exist.
The fact is that British claims are much older than Argentina in any form, which is an insurmountable obstacle to any realistic Argentinian claim in today.
Before you get to 1850 and the dropping of Argentina’s claim.
Patsy the Expat / Trimonstruosidades still pushing the lies, eh? Life must be boring living in exile...
Aug 18th, 2024 - 07:59 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Commenting for this story is now closed.
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