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The Malvinas Question triggers Ladies in Anger
The South Atlantic understanding, (and by extension to the Falkland Islands), agreed this week between the Argentine foreign minister and the UK foreign secretary has triggered quite strong reactions, reflecting an atmosphere of disarray in the Argentine political system. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesIt was nothing more than a childish stunt, meaningless , pointless and irrelevant,
Sep 28th, 2024 - 08:40 am - Link - Report abuse +5Villarruel's position, and that of almost the entire Peronist wing, is correct. We have nothing to negotiate with the United Kingdom while we have this dispute open.
Sep 28th, 2024 - 09:01 am - Link - Report abuse -4Milei's approach to the United States and trying to fix relations with the United Kingdom to find a conclusion is a waste of time and stupid. The United Kingdom negotiates when they have the rope around their neck, and with de facto governments like in the 70s, or when Argentina forcibly recovered the islands, they do not negotiate when they have an advantageous position.
Making commercial and logistical agreements with the United Kingdom only favors keeping everything as it is.
Our ally has to be China, it will be the world's first economy. There is no need to make any agreement, we have to let the United Kingdom wear itself out with internal problems, and hopefully external problems with Russia.
We should keep quiet, we wait 180 years until 1982, and there will be several more windows of opportunity... in this century.
“... Islands are an undeniable part of our territory” - incorrect. Read some history, and not the made up garbage of Ruda and Kohen.
Sep 28th, 2024 - 09:07 am - Link - Report abuse +5Argie Zit, here we go again with your pathetic fantasy of windows of opportunity garbage, if the world is still around in 180 years and mankind hasnt destroyed it with stupidity and greed, the Falklands will be a fully fledged independent nation, technology will have made huge leaps especially the military, you live in an alternate universe, the islands have never been yours and never will be, you have been give the true historical facts time and time again, you say you dont need to negotiate, neither does the Falklanders or the UK, but you do, we can stop all of you from ever visiting the island war graves ever again, that would really pee you off, grow up get an education and get a life. you bore the pants off people.
Sep 28th, 2024 - 09:33 am - Link - Report abuse +5Only the Falkland Islanders can determine who governs.
Sep 28th, 2024 - 10:37 am - Link - Report abuse +4Irrelevant what the Argentinian government says, self-determination applies and is compelling law, as evidenced: (1 pg):
https://www.academia.edu/123887510/UN_ICJ_Self_Determination_English_Portuguese_Spanish?auto=download&email_work_card=download-paper
Citizen should join the circus, a good place for clowns,
Sep 28th, 2024 - 11:10 am - Link - Report abuse +4In the real world they are and always have been British, as to what happens in the future, well the only thing certain about that is the inhabitants will decide their own destiny.
Sep 28th, 2024 - 04:30 pm - Link - Report abuse +3Anyway, the Argy constitution say the issue of sovereignty is non-negotiable, so exactly what are these people calling for?
The Peronist fanatic Argie Cit lives in a dream world, he ceased being a credible poster many weeks ago,
Sep 28th, 2024 - 04:42 pm - Link - Report abuse +2Cervantes, the true history facts by the uk?
Sep 28th, 2024 - 06:20 pm - Link - Report abuse -2UK facts are verifiable, and would stand up in any court of law Spain and France archives concur, unlike the Malvinista lies and myths and pure fantasy, they would have no standing what so ever, but you know this, your new president knows this too,
Sep 28th, 2024 - 06:30 pm - Link - Report abuse +4Then invite argentina to go the icj abaut all dependencys included the malvinas if you are sure of your position..
Sep 28th, 2024 - 09:01 pm - Link - Report abuse -4You clearly dont get it do you AC, the UK does not need to go to the ICJ, the Falklanders do not need to go to the ICJ, its you who needs to go as its you who is trying to take some ones home away from them, good grief man get a grip of yourself,, on top of that self determination is paramount despite what you Peronists claim, the whole world is sick to death of your constant crying, even Spain said you inherited nothing and the islands where British, the usurping and eviction is a 100% lie, the best thing you can do is show friendship and decency and then Argentina could benefit with some good paid jobs which would be good for your economy, the UK gets nothing from the Falklands and wants nothing from the Falklands, the new UK government has banned any new licenses for coal gas and oil, but that does not affect the islands as they make their own decisions as to what they want, you are not stupid, so why do you make a complete fool of yourself with this silly nonsense, its pointless,
Sep 28th, 2024 - 09:27 pm - Link - Report abuse +4CIUDADANO! PAYASO! VOS SOS EL MENTIROSO!!
Sep 28th, 2024 - 09:59 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Just returned from watching a fantastic game of football, and there it is again from the indoctrinated Peronist, referring back to your original post about Britain wearing itself out internally and with Russia externally, you are starting to sound like that other nut case that posts on here, we should make an ally of China you say, that shows what type of person you are, wanting a communist dictator to support you, you hated your junta dictatorship but want another as a friend, what a clown you have become, you should be more concerned about what China will get from you, one thing you are partially correct about is that not to have any relationship with each other, that would suite the Falklanders fine, no more visitors to the islands for you, its clowns like you that cause conflict, grow up and get a life, you bore the pants of everyone,
Sep 28th, 2024 - 11:10 pm - Link - Report abuse +2You are very ignorant.. china is not a dictatorship
Sep 29th, 2024 - 12:34 am - Link - Report abuse -5That shows how stupid you are, whatever XI says goes, he controls everybody and everything, it is very much a dictatorship you clown.
Sep 29th, 2024 - 12:48 am - Link - Report abuse +3“Minister added that Britain had offered that dispute over both Gibraltar and the Falklands should be referred to the International Court of Justice, but the other parties had not agreed to this”
Sep 29th, 2024 - 01:06 am - Link - Report abuse +4Telegram of March 24, 1969.
https://falklandstimeline.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/1960-to-1971.pdf
Argentina was invited to the ICJ again in 1982, by Secretary Haig. It is not clear whether he was asking on behalf of the UK, as he was a bit inclined to go off at a tangent.
“I have talked adjudication by the World Court, by the UN, or by a special commission. It was rejected all.”
Haig addressing the US Foreign Affairs Committee April 29, 1982.
As for this most recent agreement on flights, etc (whatever the details) it is worth remembering that Argentina has broken every agreement since 1971, bar one. This is unlikely to survive long term. With the current furore, it may not make it to the end of the week.
This is untrue Cervantes, china had a comunist party, they leaders, included xi, are elected by the party.
Sep 29th, 2024 - 01:41 am - Link - Report abuse -2The Chinese Communist Party (CCP) has approximately 98 million members, according to recent data. It is the largest political party in the world and plays a central role in China's power structure, controlling both the government and key national institutions.
The CCP's membership includes people from various sectors of society, such as government officials, military personnel, workers, and entrepreneurs, and it is strongly organized at all levels of administration, from the central government to local communities.
You might not have realized it, but the levels of prosperity and wealth that China is achieving are unattainable under a free-market capitalist system.
You are talking rubbish Peronist, It does not matter how many members the communist party has. Xi is in full control. he has removed anyone who is the slightest bit of a challenger, he stands no criticism, just like Putin, he is 100% a dictator, as for your ridiculous statement about prosperity and wealth not being possible in a free market capitalist system is bonkers, the USA is still way ahead of China, and if you bothered to look, things are slowly starting to decline in China, they have many economic problems ahead, India is a future economic power, and they are a democracy capitalist free market country, the so called elections are a sham, as Esteban said you really do make a fool of yourself, anyone who challenges Xi is either jailed or killed,
Sep 29th, 2024 - 01:58 am - Link - Report abuse +2Argentine zit
Oct 01st, 2024 - 11:59 am - Link - Report abuse +2You talk about a version of history “made up by the UK”.
This would indeed be a risk, as would a version of history made up by Argentina.
So, it would be important to look at the actual document detailing the events of January 1832. This is an Argentine (or more accurately a United Provinces of Rio Plata) document, in Spanish, in Buenos Aires. It is the logs of the ARA Sarandi and its captain Jose Pinedo.
It is clear that when the Sarandi arrived back in the Falklands on 30th December, they found that the militia the planted a month earlier had mutinied and murdered Mestevier, the mutineers had commissioned a British fishing ship to return them to Argentina.
Pinedo ordered them to remain, and prepared to leave the islands with a number of the remnants of the Vernet community (who he names) who wished to leave the islands.
When Onslow arrived on Jan 3rd. He ordered Pinedo to leave (he was leaving anyway) and he allowed the mutineers to leave (they would have left soon after Pinedo anyway)
This is all in Argentine historical logs...not British
Had Onslow arrived a week later that he did, the exact same people would have been on the islands.
That is fact, no eviction, no usurpation...all Argentine historic documents
You have been lied to, but not by the British.
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