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April 2 Malvinas Day to further showcase rift in Argentine gov't
The April 2 Malvinas War Veteran's Day holiday will showcase the rift in the Argentine Government much more than it would highlight any question of sovereignty and patriotism. While President Javier Milei will head the ceremony in the Buenos Aires district of Retiro, where a cenotaph remembers thhose fallen in the 1982 conflict, Vice President Victoria Villarruel -who was not invited- is to attend an event in Ushuaia to join a group of former combatants, which her late father also was. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesThese so called veterans that did not even know they where going to the Falklands, that did not want to be there and where desperate to go home, who where treated like shit by their own officers and government,
Posted 2 days ago - Link - Report abuse +6Its like watching a circus,
An invasion based on an alleged 'usurpation' in 1833 (what law was broken in 1833?) and a supposed 'inheritance from Spain.'
Posted 2 days ago - Link - Report abuse +3Argentina did not inherit the Falkland Islands from Spain (1 pg): https://www.academia.edu/44496176/Argentina_did_not_inherit_the_Falkland_Islands_from_Spain
And can anyone tell me what law w
@ Jack Jones
Posted 2 days ago - Link - Report abuse -4The only veterans who didn't know where they were going in 1982 were the British, who thought that somewhere in Scotland or Ireland had been invaded.
Steve Potts
Nootka Sound
Article IV :
His Britannic majesty engages to take the most effectual measure to prevent the navigation and fishery of his subjects, in the Pacific Ocean or in the South-Seas, from being made a pretext for illicit trade with the Spanish settlements; and, with this view, it is moreover expressly stipulated, that British subjects shall no navigate or carry on their fishery, in the said seas, within the space of ten sea-leagues from any part of the coasts already occupied by Spain.
The prohibition is crystal clear, as is the fact that at the moment the Treaty was signed, Spain was in sole possession of the Falklands/Malvinas. By that time, Spain had already appointed the 13th Governor of the Malvinas. The prohibition undoubtedly included the Falkland/Malvinas islands.
Without a doubt Argie troll, you are so indoctrinated with your BS its embarrassing to see, you are either a clueless man child who refuses to learn the truth or a complete liar, take your pick, fortunately many Argentinians are now starting to learn the truth and are sick to death of you fanatical Peronists spewing stupid nonsense, you bore the pants off people,
Posted 2 days ago - Link - Report abuse +1* was broken in 1833?
Posted 2 days ago - Link - Report abuse 0He is the last troll standing. Reckon the rest have been made redundant. Just a matter of time before
Posted 2 days ago - Link - Report abuse 0Malvinense 1833 is pushed aside. Maybe it is Mercopress that removed them.
FF, he is too far gone with his ludicrous posts, he will continue boring the pants off everyone else until the day he dies, like all fanatics they have no life and nothing better to do, his opening paragraph was that of a 9 year old, the rest of it was the same excrement he posted last week, last month, last year and the previous 7 years, his wife or boy friend must be fed up with him too unless he is a hermit sat in a cave with Kohen Rodriguez comics all around him and a fantasy flag too on his boxer shorts,
Posted 1 day ago - Link - Report abuse 0Chaps, re Malvinense 1833, why not just ignore him? He is a throwback to the many that try to disrupt normality and one that has devoted (wasted) his adult life in the process. Me, I just get on with life and reckon with all the progress in the F.I. since, then 14th Jun 1982 was a job well done. Salute to you all on that date.
Posted 1 day ago - Link - Report abuse 0@Veteran, i stopped conversing with him months ago, nothing he posts is relevant, he is nothing more than a Parrot repeating claims that has been proven to be false, he needs his Polly wants a cracker fix to keep on living the lie. only cowards cant admit when they are wrong,
Posted 1 day ago - Link - Report abuse 0“That at the moment the Treaty was signed, Spain was in sole possession of the Falklands/Malvinas”
Posted 23 hours ago - Link - Report abuse 0Regardless, Argentina was barred from any claim by by both Nootka and Utrecht.
The Nootka Convention: ”...Article VI provided that neither party would form new establishments on any of the islands adjacent to the east and west coasts of South America then occupied by Spain....... there was an additional secret article which stipulated that Article VI shall remain in force only so long as no establishment shall have been formed by the subjects of any other power on the coasts in question. the occupation of the settlement (at Port Louis) by subjects of any other power negated Article VI and allowed Great Britain to re-assert prior sovereignty and form new settlements.
http ://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nootka_Convention
http ://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Apcbg/Nootka_Sound_Convention
Argentine historian Diego Luis Molinari believes that the secret clause in the Nootka Sound Convention was specifically put in by Britain with the Falklands in mind, and that Britain's reassertion of sovereignty in 1833 ... ...was an exercise of Britain's rights under this clause. In the opinion of Professor Dolzer, the Nootka Sound Convention was a purely bipartite agreement between Britain and Spain, which means that Argentina could not benefit from its provisions in any way. ...”
Getting it right: the real history of the Falklands/Malvinas by Graham Pascoe and Peter Pepper
Treaty of Nootka Sound
HC Deb 07 February 1983 vol 36 c275W275W
§Mr. Dalyell asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will list any United Kingdom obligations under the treaty of Nootka Sound in relation to former Spanish colonies.
§Mr. Onslow Under article 6 of the Noo
Malvi
Posted 6 hours ago - Link - Report abuse 0You claimed on another thread that in 1832 the United Provinces were unaware of the British claim.
How come the National Archive at Kew shows the acknowledgement of a letter from the British consul Woodbine Parrish in 1829 where he reaffirms the British claim and warns Argentine not to attempt to seize sovereignty.
It also includes letters and maps that Parrish received from Luis Vernet advising that Vernet took no position on sovereignty.
Why is this Malvi?
Seems like the made up eviction, there is a made up unprovoked reclaim of sovereignty too.
It seems Argentina sent a militia and a governor in Oct 1832 fully in knowledge of the British claim, attempted to usurp the islands and ignore the British claim and have lied about it ever since.
Woodbine Parrish was decorated by the UP government and is a reliable historic source.
Sorry Malvi.
Perhaps you should have negotiated in 1832 rather than try and steal the islands ignoring a claim your government officially acknowledged.
@Monkey
Posted 2 hours ago - Link - Report abuse 0I didn't say that.
I said there was an entire period of Spanish and then Argentine occupation during which there were no British claims.
And that the first malicious and belated protest was in 1829.
None of you could tell me what the British claim is based on: on an alleged discovery by Davis? No protests? No population?
@Steve Potts
You have nothing to show, that's your “great” argument.
Do you want to know what laws were broken? There are many archives with documents and books to research.
Do you want to know about the historical legal arguments? Read the Ruda statement.
Don't like what an Argentine says?
Read what the Uruguayan ambassador to the United Nations, Dr. Carlos María Velázquez, said in 1964.
The only invaders and usurpers are the British.
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