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Falklands, Argentina recalls the 193 anniversary of UK “illegitimate” occupation and calls for bilateral dialogue
In its annual routine statement, the Argentine Foreign ministry has recalled the 193rd anniversary of 3 January 1833, when ‘the illegitimate occupation of the Malvinas Islands’ and ‘has reaffirmed its legitimate and imprescriptible sovereignty rights over the Malvinas, South Georgia and South Sandwich Islands and their surrounding maritime spaces’. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesCry, whine. moan and complain all you want, the matter is settled ,the talking stopped when you illegally invaded in 1982 . Sovereignty is not up for debate, the islands belong to the people who live there, grow up Argentina.
Jan 03rd, 2026 - 10:34 pm - Link - Report abuse +4“The sovereignty dispute was acknowledged by the UN General Assembly with Resolution 2065 (XX), calling on Argentina and the United Kingdom to resolve it through bilateral negotiations, without having the self-determination principle considered applicable.
Jan 04th, 2026 - 11:37 am - Link - Report abuse +3Shameful episode in the history of the UN: How UNGA 2065(XX) Was ‘Fixed’ in Favour of Argentina: https://www.academia.edu/145100054/How_UNGA_2065_XX_Was_Fixed_in_Favour_of_Argentina
Oh yes “Bilateral negotiations” are essential. If the negotiations were “Trilateral” that would mean that the residents if the disputed islands would have a say and that is one thing Argentina would never accept.
Jan 04th, 2026 - 01:52 pm - Link - Report abuse +3UNGA resolution 2065 actually says.
Jan 04th, 2026 - 05:16 pm - Link - Report abuse +3https://treaties.un.org/doc/source/docs/A_RES_2065-Eng.pdf
‘proceed without delay with the negotiations .... with a view to finding a peaceful solution to the problem, bearing in mind the provisions and objectives of the Charter of the United Nations and of General Assembly resolution 1514 (XV) and the interests of the population of the Falkland Islands (Malvinas);..’
Where those documents state the objective is self-governance and the provision for that is self-determination, free from outside interference.
The self-determination principle certainly does apply, no question of that, when you read what the documents actually say.
As for UNGA Resolution 31/49, well the ‘status quo’ is defined in UNGA resolution 1514, which states that the inhabitants have the right to exploit their natural resources.
Anyway, didn’t Argentina invade the territory? A flagrant violation of 31/49 if ever there was one.
The evidence does not support the Argentinian argument, it contradicts it and they wonder why there isn’t any negotiations.
Oh, and South Georgia and South Sandwich Islands, are a separate matter entirely, accept the British offer to go to the international court for a judgment.
Flat earth mentality alive and well in Argentina, I see.
The Falkland Islands represent for Argentina what the Taiwan Islands represent for China.
Jan 04th, 2026 - 06:29 pm - Link - Report abuse -4And everything will be resolved in due time. In Brazil we have a saying: what belongs to man, no beast can eat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W94STMl8IMM&list=FLmXPTu1f8AdGlizWNiASx2A&index=30
You have no clue what you are talking about Bras, the islands where British before Argentina existed, it is already resolved, before posting crap do some research.
Jan 04th, 2026 - 07:03 pm - Link - Report abuse +4Just for the sake of argument, I asked the XAI a question - “If a territory was taken by force in the 19th century and then successfully retained for 193 years, would the country that took that territory have full sovereign rights?”
Jan 05th, 2026 - 01:59 am - Link - Report abuse +4The answer =
Yes, under international law, a country that acquired territory by force in the 19th century—when conquest was generally recognized as a valid mode of acquisition under the legal standards of the era—would typically retain full sovereign rights over that territory today, provided it has maintained effective control without the original claim being successfully overturned. This is governed by the principle of intertemporal law, which assesses the validity of the acquisition based on the rules in force at the time it occurred, while the ongoing maintenance of sovereignty must align with contemporary norms (e.g., no further use of force to retain it).The 193-year retention period would further strengthen the title through historical consolidation or acquisitive prescription, a doctrine in international law where prolonged, continuous, and peaceful exercise of sovereignty (à titre de souverain) over the territory can extinguish competing claims, especially if there has been acquiescence (tacit consent or lack of effective objection) from other states. Prescription does not require the initial acquisition to be lawful under modern standards; it focuses on the factual reality of long-term control and general international acceptance over time. Historical examples illustrate this: Many U.S. territories (e.g., parts of the Southwest acquired via the Mexican-American War in 1848) were taken by force in the 19th century and are now indisputably sovereign U.S. land.
So, if if Argentina's spurious claims were correct, nothing changes.
Nice one Roger.
Jan 05th, 2026 - 10:42 am - Link - Report abuse +4Wish a great 2026 to all the above - with the exception of Brasshole, who doesn't know his ass from his elbow, as well as the corrupt leftie Nine-fingers (or 7 fingers and 2 thumbs, to appease the supercilious “you-know-who”), who must be crapping his pants after his best pal was removed from VZ.
Jan 05th, 2026 - 08:30 pm - Link - Report abuse +2Pugol, good to see you are still around !
“breaking the territorial integrity of our country and dislodging the Argentine authorities”
Jan 05th, 2026 - 10:08 pm - Link - Report abuse +1That's an impossibility since Argentina is barred from any claim by the Peace of Utrecht, which explicitly bars any Argentine claim of succession.
”...it is hereby further agreed and concluded, that neither the Catholic King, nor any of his heirs and successors whatsoever, shall sell, yield, pawn, transfer, or by any means, or under any name, alienate from them and the crown of Spain, to the French, or to any other nations whatever, any lands, dominions, or territories, or any part thereof, belonging to Spain in America.”
Jack Bauer
Jan 05th, 2026 - 11:24 pm - Link - Report abuse +2Yes, still alive and kicking and enjoying life, good to hear from you.
And a great new year to you and all the above, with noted exceptions.
Yes, a frightening turn of events for the digitally challenged, amongst others.
Bi-lateral discussion was offered in 1832 BEFORE Argentina attempted to seize the islands by force with the SS Sarandi.
Jan 06th, 2026 - 01:57 pm - Link - Report abuse +1We even tried bi-lateral discussions in 1982 BEFORE Argentina invaded costing 900 lives.
There wont be a third time.
Good to see you too, Jack! ;)
Jan 07th, 2026 - 03:38 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Hi imoyaro,
Jan 07th, 2026 - 05:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Happy New Year !
Just dropping in to make contact with friends. Keep Well !
It is time for the United Kingdom to fulfill its international obligations and enter into negotiations with Argentina. It is time for it to stop acting childishly and assume its responsibility.
Jan 08th, 2026 - 11:56 am - Link - Report abuse -3The United Kingdom condemns Russia's invasion of Ukraine while occupying part of Argentina since 1833, demonstrating its double standards.
I believe that Argentina and the United Kingdom are natural allies, but with the Falklands/Malvinas issue unresolved due to the UK's refusal to engage in talks, it is difficult to establish the trust necessary for good relations.
Many Argentinians and Britons criticize me for holding this view, but I believe they are not enemy countries.
United Kingdom, grow up! United Kingdom, mature! United Kingdom, be pragmatic!
Its time for Argentina and you especially #1833 to grow up, you cant even see how you are making a fool of yourself on this website daily, sovereignty is not up for discussion, end of story, most Argentines know this and just get on with their lives, all the UN has said is to resolve the situation peacefully, its the small military base at Mount Pleasant that keeps the peace, you also forget to mention that the UN said self determination applies to ALL WITHOUT EXCEPTION. no special case what so ever, its people like you that cause friction and lack of trust, UK has grown up it has no colonies any more, every BOT is self governing, unfortunately you and the Malvinas fanatics have not, you live in a dream world.
Jan 08th, 2026 - 02:25 pm - Link - Report abuse +1What's the point of the UK and Argentina sitting down to “negotiate” sovereignty of the Falkland Islands ?
Jan 08th, 2026 - 03:40 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Based on the fact that, as far as Argentina is concerned, sovereignty is not “negotiable”, what is there to discuss ?
Spot on Jack. talks are pointless, and the Argie government will not even speak to the islanders about anything, and they with draw from agreements they make, i would not trust them one little bit. he has lost it completely. if he ever had it in the first place.
Jan 08th, 2026 - 03:52 pm - Link - Report abuse +1@Jack
Jan 09th, 2026 - 01:35 pm - Link - Report abuse -1It's always good to start conversations, I've said it many times here. We could begin with a variety of topics such as health, education, the economy, tourism, fishing, student and sports exchanges, but the shortsightedness of a few prevents good dialogue and, consequently, understanding.
So, if an opening can lead to a possible solution to the conflict, I see a lot of sense in it.
Regards.
@Mr Jones
Argentina doesn't talk to the islanders because the United Kingdom is in charge of diplomatic relations.
Argentina doesn't talk to the islanders because the United Kingdom usurped the islands from Argentina, and the islanders are there as a consequence; they are subjects of Her Majesty.
The only one responsible for this situation is the United Kingdom and its completed crime.
Argentina doesn't talk to the islanders because sovereignty over a territory is exercised by a country or state, not by a group of people.
Argentina, through its Constitution, is committed to safeguarding the way of life of its inhabitants and respecting their culture and interests.
Regards, good weekend.
Malv
Jan 09th, 2026 - 03:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well, your president seems to have a different view:
https://en.mercopress.com/2025/12/30/milei-tells-telegraph-malvinas-claim-non-negotiable
‘ultimately the consent of the local population’, he said, not for the first time either.
For that you will have to talk to them.
With the recognition of the inhabitants right to self-determination, Argentina’s claim, such as it is, evaporates.
This must be a worrying time for you, but you can consol yourself with the thought that your claim, such as it was, was never going anywhere anyway. The British case was always overwhelming.
Happy new year to you, may it bring you understanding towards your S. Atlantic neighbours, who, like it or not, have been there longer than Argentina has existed.
Why do you constantly lie 1833, their was no usurping, you know that, the rest of your gibberish is not even worth responding to. you have turned in to a fanatical pathological liar, your claims do not and never have held any water, you have no case what so ever, if you want to make any head way then its the islanders you need to talk to. they decide their own future, not London, the UN has said without exception, ALL people have the right to self determination, wasting year after year on this stupid nonsense, SOVEREIGHNTY IS NOT UP FOR DISCUSSION, what is not to understand, as for your stupid crime bollocks, the crime is Argentina stealing the majority of southern Argentina from the true owners, that is the real crime, but you try to hair brush that, with even more bollocks, again and again your successive governments have been invited to state your case at court, never have they once accepted, why ? because your claim is the biggest bollocks of all. JJ is right you have completely lost the plot, grow up for goodness sake, you are like a toddler who wants something he is not entitled to so cries his eyes out, my 6 year old nephew talks far more sense than you,
Jan 09th, 2026 - 03:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Malvinense 1833
Jan 09th, 2026 - 05:40 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Let's analyse your several suggestions above :
Sure it's good to start conversations, to discuss a variety of things etc, but what is Argentina's end objective ? Will it sooner or later demand a hand in running the islands, or even full sovereignty ? I can't see Argentina settling for anything less.
If Argentina doesn't even recognize the rights of the islanders to self-determination, it is clear that it has no respect for the will of the only people who really matter in the equation. England favours self-determination. Argentina doesn't, so back to square one.
With all due respect, your version of the historical facts is completely distorted. And by what I have seen and read, Argentina seems determined to ignore the rulings of several international organizations, based on those facts, not fantasy or false narratives.....
Continuing, do you mean to tell me that in your opinion, Argentina would /might be satisfied to establish commercial relations with the Falkland Islands and officially relinquish any right to sovereignty, recognizing the right of the Islanders to rule themselves ?
You allege that Argentina doesn't talk to the Islanders, because sovereignty is exercised by “a country or State, not by a group of people”...then why not agree with England's favoured solution of self-determination, which could then become Statehood, allowing the population of the Falkland islands to take its own decisions and deal with whomever it wants.
But two things are pretty clear : the islanders do NOT want to be subject to Argentina's Constitution and, Argentina's end game is to control the Falklands.
You see why it won't happen ?
Malvi
Jan 09th, 2026 - 10:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have a better idea:
Argentina publishes the logs of the SS Sarandi on state media.
It explains that the Sarandi was sent to usurp the islands in October 1832, where it found the failed remnants of the Vernet business under the leadership of the British William Dixon.
The Sarandi dropped of its usurping militia under the first ever UP governor, Esteban Mestevier who was promptly murdered by his own militia and his wife raped in front of their children. The militia then contracted the British ship the Rapid to leave the islands.
When the Sarandi returned, Pinedo ordered the militia to remain but agreed to take Mrs Mestevier (who was being looked after by the British on the islands), and 20 or so of Vernets community who desperately wanted to leave after being abandoned by Vernet.
When Onslow arrived on January 6th (less than 80 days after the Sarandi) he ordered Pinedo to take down the UP rag, allowed him to leave peacefully on the Sarandi with everyone already planning to leave and allowed the militia to leave on the Rapid.
Not one single person was “expelled”, there was no expulsion of Argie civilians or militia, and no theft.
The UP were well aware of the British claim and went to steal the islands without negotiation, nobody was expelled because even within 80 days the UP had managed to mess it up.
Make a film, make a TV series, put it in the press, for nearly 80 years dum Argie cretins have fallen for a lie when the proof was available in BA in the logs of the very expedition they were lied to about.
If, after all the evidence, like you, they still deny the truth, are still so cretinous as to suckle on the nipples of Kohen, despite the historic fact, then good luck, but I suggest most will see through the Peronist lie, realise 900 have already dies based on the lie, and probably turn on sick deranged indoctrinated Peronists who still perpetrate the blatant falsehood.
Its worth a go.
He will ignore what you have posted Jack, and just repeat the same distortions and lies which have no factual historical evidence what so ever , he has been doing it at least for 10 years, Falklands Free. Roger Lorton . Pugol-H and Monkey magic have time and time again proved everyone of his claims to be false . he cant answer why successive governments have refused the UKs invitation to go to court, keeps claiming the Falklands are a special case when the UN have said all people have a right to self determination, can not and will not see that Argentina itself is a Colonialist that stole land. cant accept that previous Argentine governments said nothing for 90 years, denies all British history which is older than any other countries, its nothing more than a fanatical obsession, he probably deep down knows the truth but will never admit as it means he has been living a lie since 1982, and can not see how foolish his posts are which is sad because he is not a stupid guy,
Jan 09th, 2026 - 10:05 pm - Link - Report abuse +1But let us not forget, he is always polite and does almost address the points raised, sometimes, albeit with complete Bollox, and is the only one here fighting his corner, earning his pay, with courtesy if not correctness.
Jan 09th, 2026 - 11:36 pm - Link - Report abuse +1At a time when events are pretty much moving against his thinking.
Milei‘s plan can work, unlikely in the present I grant you, but the Islanders could decide to be Argentinian in the future. The first Argentinian plan ever that could, in principle at least, work.
Also, he said probably the most intelligent thing I have ever heard any Argy politician ever say on the subject, ‘for that to happen Argentina must first become a normal country’.
This kind of thinking means the end for poor Malv’s whole concept and argument, ELE, just like the dinosaurs.
So Malv, I say again, ‘Happy new year to you, may it bring you understanding towards your S. Atlantic neighbours, who, like it or not, have been there longer than Argentina has existed’.
Being polite is fine and dandy but when it comes with an endless repeats of lies it becomes very tedious.
Jan 10th, 2026 - 12:12 am - Link - Report abuse +1when i first joined this site i actually respected the guy, but most certainly did not accept his nonsense, but that respect slowly disappeared,
i also think Milei knows the truth, but has to placate the fanatics, who are slowly dying off,
the few Argentines i have spoken to have little to no interest in the Falklands, probably the silent majority.
My hope for the Falklands future is once the population hits 10.000 they become a sovereign country, the UK would still protect them as they did with Belize.
over the last 20 years the population has doubled closing in on 4,000, so its possible,
wishing the islanders a safe and prosperous 2026.
The United Kingdom has for-fulfilled all its international obligations under international law.
Jan 11th, 2026 - 12:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0With the completion of the Referendum UK has fulfilled all it's legal obligations under the Charter, as the Islands are now “decolonized”. It's therefore irrelevant who doesn't accept the affirmation of international law, as it is not the UK's problem, as there is no legal power on earth to compel them to do anything else. “UN Charter; DECLARATION REGARDING NON-SELF-GOVERNING TERRITORIES; Article 73; Members of the United Nations which have or assume responsibilities for ..peoples have not yet attained ..of self-government recognize the principle that the interests of the inhabitants of these territories are paramount, ..b. to develop self-government, ...”
“The States Parties to the present Covenant, including those having responsibility for the administration of Non-Self-Govcrning and Trust Territories, shall promote ...the right of self-determination, and shall respect that right, in conformity with the provisions of the Charter of the United Nations.
”There is no obligation in general international law to settle disputes”.
Principles of Public International Law, third edition, 1979 by Ian Brownlie
Jack Jones
Jan 12th, 2026 - 04:04 pm - Link - Report abuse +1I have to agree with you. It's indeed uselss to try reasoning with people who have been brain-washed.
Pugol
Agree with both you and Esteban D. Fernandez, being polite does not exclude speaking Bollox, and Milei has to give the fanatics a chance to sober up. I have a few cousins in BA, and they have always been in favour of letting the Islanders determine their own future.
I also originally liked Malvi, but now I really don't.
Jan 12th, 2026 - 10:51 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Malvi asks for discussions and negotiations, but he is unable to move an inch from his indoctrination even when proven historic facts are presented. He disappears and then returns with the same lie “Argentine authorities and civilians were evicted from the islands”
This is proven false beyond any rational measure. Pinedos own logs show it is false, any rational human would admit, that the events of January 6th 1833 have been exaggerated to the point of absurdity by Argentina.
This claim should be dropped.
The other two facets from the Argentine myth, the inheritance from Spain myth and the Vernet business myth, have also been disproven from a legal and precedent perspective.
If you genuinely believe that South America is god given to the Latinos in some 15th century Papal Bull, then I guess you are entitled to your belief.
The Vernet business has been discussed at length and certainly by Oct 1833 it had failed and had become irrelevant either way.
Any claim Argentina though it had through this myriad of myths ended permenantly in 1982. The claim dishonours the war dead on both sides, and again, finished the debate forever.
If, one day, the islanders wish to join Argentina, they are free to do so, but people like Malvi move that day further and further into the future.
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