MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
Argentina takes Falklands’ sovereignty claims to the Maritime Organization
Argentina renewed this week its sovereignty claims over the Falklands/Malvinas Islands and accused the United Kingdom of deliberately not complying with the International Maritime Organization regulations by exposing the security of shipping in the South Atlantic. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rules“ ... Argentina’s position was supported by presentations from Brazil, Ecuador, Bolivia, Panama, Chile, México, Venezuela, Cuba, Colombia, Peru, Spain and South Africa...”
Dec 02nd, 2010 - 04:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0The 'Old Boys' club lol
“ ... The IMO Maritime Security Committee took note of Argentina’s complaints and decided to keep a file with the support statements and called on all governments to abide all security and safety regulations referred to operations that may endanger shipping...”
In other words, “Thank you, Noted and Filed”
A nother non-event in Argentina's long list of embarrassing whinges.
And that's all she wrote :-)
Being ignored is a sign of success for Argentina. Pity they have such low standards.
Dec 02nd, 2010 - 07:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0Aye, and consistently fail to rise to them!
Dec 02nd, 2010 - 08:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Apparently no country member in the Committee came out in support of the UK.”
Dec 02nd, 2010 - 09:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0Why would anyone bother? case dismissed.
More blather from a load of loosers !
Dec 02nd, 2010 - 11:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0I would have thought they all have enough problems of their own without creating more but I suppose they have to be seen to be in agreement or else they would loose face.
Why does Argentina rush around the world making these efforts? But, notably, avoids the ICJ.
Dec 02nd, 2010 - 11:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0Where is Think to claim this is another nail in Britain's coffin?
Dec 02nd, 2010 - 11:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0I'll say it on Thinks behalf....ahem...
Dec 02nd, 2010 - 12:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0'Another nail in Brtains coffin in the South Atlantic'
Ther you go Think, saved you the trouble.
;-)
What a luxury!
Dec 02nd, 2010 - 12:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I must be the only Argie with two secretaries in Malvinas...
Hopefully, the “Masters” wont’t take offence from the misspelling of their Great Nation’s name :-)
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Well that's me sacked then, just the one secretary now Think....
Dec 02nd, 2010 - 01:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0:-)
anymore nails and we will turn into a porkypine, and roll over right on top of argentina,
Dec 02nd, 2010 - 02:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sounds like the typical Argentina government having troubles at home and trying to get some public support by bringing up more issues on the Malvinas/Falklands.
Dec 02nd, 2010 - 03:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Quite, briton, and everyone knows you should never get into an arse- kicking competition with a porcupine.
Dec 02nd, 2010 - 04:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Argentina’s position was supported by presentations from Brazil, Ecuador, Bolivia, Panama, Chile, México, Venezuela, Cuba, Colombia, Peru, Spain and South Africa”
Dec 02nd, 2010 - 06:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Apparently no country member in the Committee came out in support of the UK”
(poor Brits)
“England's World Cup 2018 humiliation: two votes won, and one of them Geoff Thompson”
“Prime Minister David Cameron and Prince William in Zurich said: ”I think the bid team have done everything possible, we couldn't have got a better bid”
(Next time take Charles with you :-) )
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/england/8176849/Englands-World-Cup-2018-humiliation-two-votes-won-and-one-of-them-Geoff-Thompson.html
Britain alone and out of touch.
Malvinas Argentinas
“The IMO Maritime Security Committee took note of Argentina’s complaints and decided to keep a file with the support statements and called on all governments to abide all security and safety regulations referred to operations that may endanger shipping.”
Dec 02nd, 2010 - 06:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Filed and forgotten Marcos
“Britain alone and out of touch.
Malvinas Argentinas”
If it gives you comfort just keep telling yourself that.
:-)
England's World Cup 2018 humiliation: two votes won, and one of them Geoff Thompson”
Dec 02nd, 2010 - 07:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not as big as the 1982 humiliation the Argies had
That's right Marcos.
Dec 02nd, 2010 - 07:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And who's hosting the next Olympic Games? Hmmmm let me see......help me out here....is it Argentina?
The World Cup. Nothing to do with the BBC exposing FIFA corruption on the World Service?
Dec 02nd, 2010 - 09:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We don't pay bribes, so it wasn't really expected.
“We don't pay bribes, so it wasn't really expected.”
Dec 02nd, 2010 - 09:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Chuckle chuckle about the “ fantastic bribe-less world” of Justin Kuntz
http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/stories/bribe/2010/02/bae-to-pay-more-than-400-million-in-us-and-uk-fines.html
http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/stories/bribe/2010/02/bae-to-pay-more-than-400-million-in-us-and-uk-fines.html
http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/stories/bribe/2010/02/bae-to-pay-more-than-400-million-in-us-and-uk-fines.html
http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/stories/bribe/2010/02/bae-to-pay-more-than-400-million-in-us-and-uk-fines.html
http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/stories/bribe/2010/02/bae-to-pay-more-than-400-million-in-us-and-uk-fines.html
A pity that “Think” had 2 idle minutes to google some “Brutish Bribe Stories” up
A pity Think can't see the wood for the trees.
Dec 02nd, 2010 - 10:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What has Sarah Ferguson got to do with anything FFS? No-one said that no British person ever took a bribe. Only that the BBC exposed a bribe scandal within FIFA, which they did.
And that the British didn't bribe people to get the world cup. Well that's self evident isn't it. Or are you saying we just aren't as good at bribing as other people?
Turnip.
The difference being Think if you try that in the UK you get caught, exposed, tried and convicted. As your little diatribe showed.
Dec 02nd, 2010 - 10:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In Argentina, you get elected.
Neep, neep.
Fifa were impressed with the argie Junta bid in 1978,says a lot
Dec 02nd, 2010 - 10:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(20) Monthy 69
Dec 02nd, 2010 - 10:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But“Think” can flawlessly see through Mr. Justin Kuntz small “convenient” lies.
He has seen them many times before…
Like when he edited out material he didn’t like from the Spanish Wikipedia Malvinas War article. (That’s why he was kicked out) …….
Or when he conveniently “switched” the nationality of Dr. Bingham’s ex-wife from Chilean to Argentinean to make “more palatable” the bad treatment her family received from the Islanders.
Or……
“more palatable” to whom? When is bad treatment ever palatable?
Dec 02nd, 2010 - 11:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I do wonder about the way your mind works sometimes, Think.
And stop putting things in quotation marks. Where were you dragged up? Didn't anyone ever tell you you shouldn't unless you are quoting from something?
“Or when he conveniently “switched” the nationality of Dr. Bingham’s ex-wife from Chilean to Argentinean to make “more palatable” the bad treatment her family received from the Islanders.”
Dec 02nd, 2010 - 11:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That's the first I heard of that one think, you've been listening to Mike (fake PDH, The Fabricator, AKA the big fat liar) Bingham a bit too much I reckon.
(24)
Dec 02nd, 2010 - 11:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I hope you are not the English teacher at Stanley School:-)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quotation_mark
(25)
Sooooo.. Westi...
Was she Chilean or Argentinean?
I really couldn't give a shit Think.
Dec 02nd, 2010 - 11:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sooooo......?
Dec 02nd, 2010 - 11:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why do yo answer then?
I'm not saying that you can't use quotation marks to show “irony”, only that it's poor. Just because Wiki says that people do it, doesn't mean you should. And no, I'm not.
Dec 02nd, 2010 - 11:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If FIFA is as corupt as they say it is, then has England in a way [won]
Dec 02nd, 2010 - 11:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0After all who want to win the corupt cup, and russia will certainly endorse that, but perhaps by 2026 it may be a clean cup and we can try again ?? worth waiting for dont you think.
'Prince William had breakfast with FIFA's Paraguayan member Nicolas Leoz as England 2018 looked to keep the momentum going for their World Cup bid.'
Dec 03rd, 2010 - 12:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0What did you give Mr Leoz the Famous Scottish Haggis?
Keep pushing :-)
http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Prince-William-pushing-England-s-World-Cup-bid-with-breakfast-meetings-as-2018-team-continue-to-build-support-ahead-of-bid-article641843.html
mmmmmmmsticks and stonessss
Dec 03rd, 2010 - 12:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0And even to the latest convention on climate change (COP16) wher, yet again, the British had to put the Argentine delegation in its place - ” The UK delegation does not believe that this is the appropriate forum to raise sovereignty issues of any kind. In reference to the content of the statement made by the delegation of Argentina, the Government of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland has no doubt about its sovereignty over the Falkland Islands, South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands and their surrounding maritime areas. The United Kingdom firmly rejects the claim by the Government of Argentina to sovereignty over those islands and maritime areas. The principle of self-determination, enshrined in the Charter of the United Nations, underlies our position on the sovereignty of the Falkland Islands. There can be no negotiation on the sovereignty of the Falkland Islands unless and until such time as the Falkland Islanders so wish. The Islanders regularly make it clear that they wish the Falkland Islands to remain under British sovereignty. The United Kingdom applied the Framework Convention on Climate Change1 and the Kyoto Protocol2 to the Falkland Islands on 7 March 2007........ '
Dec 03rd, 2010 - 07:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0NIbbling at the edges, getting nowhere :-)
As such the United Kingdom has included emissions from the Falkland Islands within its Greenhouse Gas Inventories in fulfilment of its obligations under the Convention and the Protocol.”
Ah the usual from Think, can't defeat with argument, resort to smears.
Dec 03rd, 2010 - 10:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0You're a liar, a fraud and a waste of time. I have never at any point made such a claim. I challenge you to prove it.
I was not banned from the Spanish wikipedia, I choose not to edit there. The article is in the grip of people who report unproven allegations as facts. Allegations that have in fact been investigated thoroughly and found to be groundless.
This is the standard of thought in Argentina it seems, lie, defame and smear. Utterly morally bankrupt.
@33
Dec 03rd, 2010 - 10:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0Trying to discuss sovereignty at a climate change convention???
Nice one Red
LOL, a lot.
:-)
About Post (34)
Dec 03rd, 2010 - 04:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mr. Kuntz denies having “switched” the nationality of Dr. Bingham’s ex-wife from Chilean to Argentinean (see post 23) and challenges me:
------ “You're a liar, a fraud and a waste of time. I have never at any point made such a claim. I challenge you to prove it.” ------
Ok then................................
Let’s see the following MercoPress article:
.http://en.mercopress.com/2010/09/03/falkland-islands-oil-activities-still-remain-encouraging
At post (19) Mr. Kuntz writes about Dr. Bingham:
……..”He left for Argentina with his Argentine girl friend who was 5 months pregnant, to take up a job with the Argentine Government who made him a better offer.”
At post (23) i reply:
…….”Back to Dr. Bingham……
His wife is not Argentinean but Chilean …..
They did not wish to leave the Islands……
There was no “better offer” waiting in Argentina….
Ergo Demonstratum Est :-)
I am glad I am only a part-time MercoPress poster, it must be a full-time job to argue with Thunk, with all the crap he comes out with. The more and more crap I read that is posted under Thunk's name, the more I believe that this is not about the Falklands, but some deep seated hatred of anything British, and jealously that Britain is a world power and Argentina are a complete laughing stock in the world community. I am sure Think will counter my arguement about some bullshit, but I couldnt careless what he thinks (with the exception of his expertise of nails and coffins, I am starting to think Thunk is a necrophiliac, as his knowledge on coffin nails is unusually high...), I know that I am right and his is wrong, no matter what he seems to drag up to provide as a distraction to his failings to answer questions regarding the Argentine 'Myth of the Malvinas', 1833, population implantation, human rights etc...
Dec 03rd, 2010 - 04:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 037 M_of_FI “jealously that Britain is a world power”
Dec 03rd, 2010 - 04:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Was.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/dec/03/ark-royal-final-voyage
@38
Dec 03rd, 2010 - 05:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We have given you argies a ten year head start,still bet you wont have the balls to invade again
@36
Dec 03rd, 2010 - 05:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0She's a Chilean because you say she is, well you've convinced me Think.
;-/
It would be reasonable to assume that Bingham got a better offer from the Argentinian government given the the FIG offer was “Sling your hook you lying troublemaker”
He'd be a square peg in a square hole in Argentina.
(40) Westi
Dec 03rd, 2010 - 06:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Stanley ain't so big mate...
Just ask............................
Justin Lady Gaga, ……..”He left for Argentina with his Argentine girl friend“
Dec 03rd, 2010 - 06:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't lie again, don't lie again, Justino
I'm not Argentinian, I'm not Argentinian, Elena
Wrong again
”In February 1999, Mike Bingham flew to Chile to get married to his Chilean sweetheart Elena”
http://www.falklands.net/FalklandsCorruption.shtml
@41
Dec 03rd, 2010 - 06:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hey Think, I said you'd convinced me didn't I? and that's quite a concession considering you're an RG.
;-)
:-)
Dec 03rd, 2010 - 06:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Think is speechless.....result!!
Dec 03rd, 2010 - 08:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0:o)
No idea on nationality of Mrs Bingham-no interest either-nor in him.But -He is/was a LIAR - of that there is no doubt! Funny that we still have millions of penguins.albatross numbers are boomimg - and fishing continues!
Dec 03rd, 2010 - 09:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Funny you mention the Albatross in conection with Dr. Bingham.......
Dec 03rd, 2010 - 09:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0L'Albatros
Souvent, pour s'amuser, les hommes d'équipage
Prennent des albatros, vastes oiseaux des mers,
Qui suivent, indolents compagnons de voyage,
Le navire glissant sur les gouffres amers.
À peine les ont-ils déposés sur les planches,
Que ces rois de l'azur, maladroits et honteux,
Laissent piteusement leurs grandes ailes blanches
Comme des avirons traîner à côté d'eux.
Ce voyageur ailé, comme il est gauche et veule!
Lui, naguère si beau, qu'il est comique et laid!
L'un agace son bec avec un brûle-gueule,
L'autre mime, en boitant, l'infirme qui volait!
Le Poète est semblable au prince des nuées
Qui hante la tempête et se rit de l'archer;
Exilé sur le sol au milieu des huées,
Ses ailes de géant l'empêchent de marcher.
Got the analogy?
Funny you mention the Albatross
Dec 03rd, 2010 - 10:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_u7VGiMO0U
47 Think Not really Think.
Dec 03rd, 2010 - 11:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Who is the albatross? 'Not Dr' Bingham?
'Lui, naguère si beau, qu'il est comique et laid!' He always was!
I seem to remember the albatross was only unlucky if you actually killed it, whereas mad Mike survived all assassination attempts to become a prize pain in the derriere anyway.
Think - sorry you have one over me there - my schoolboy days French is not up to it!
Dec 04th, 2010 - 12:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well I'm pleased we didn't get a sodding football world cup anyway, since I can't abide the game; all those overpaid weedy athletes rolling on the floor pretending they are hurt, its like watching paint dry, all the stupid plastic flags on cars, the game makes me vomit.
Dec 04th, 2010 - 04:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0Roll on RWC 2011, with proper athletes playing a proper game, and showing each other respect. Vastly more entertaining in my book.
(49)
Dec 04th, 2010 - 05:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0“L'un agace son bec avec un brûle-gueule,
L'autre mime, en boitant, l'infirme qui volait!”
... Who else?
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You could try one of the dozens of English translations available on Internet.
None of them is good ......But one gets the general idea.
FIG=Federation Internationale de Gymnastique.
Dec 04th, 2010 - 07:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0Wow, good one marcos....
Dec 04th, 2010 - 11:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0.
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......breeze whispers through the desert.....tumbleweed rolls past....
...
Paging mr think
Dec 04th, 2010 - 04:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/12/02/ap/tech/main7111771.shtml
I see Think is spunking in his pants again.
Dec 04th, 2010 - 08:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You claim I changed the nationality to make a point, I didn't.
Bingham's wife who left him for a Falklander came from Chile, his girlfriend at the time was Argentine.
Ooops, Think's head rammed up his backside again.
Prove your allegation that I changed it to make a point.
Don't expect it though, smears, innuendo and bending the truth is about the standard of debate from Think.
About (56)
Dec 04th, 2010 - 08:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ohhhh………….
A new element is suddenly introduced in the story....
A “mysterious” Argentinean girlfriend in Malvinas!
Courtesy of Mr. Justin Kuntz…
That could be the explanation for that “Secret Argentinean Special Forces disembarkment” you so ardently commented on MercoPress some time ago……
They surely offloaded a gorgeous RG She-Spy to twist the mind of poor Dr. Bingham….;-)
Oh did someone check the facts and found out they'd been a dick?
Dec 04th, 2010 - 09:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How Mike Bingham met his girlfriend I have no idea, I merely quoted correspondence from the guy on the Falklands/Malvinas forum.
If you wish to continue digging to make even more of a prat of themselves you go right ahead.
You make an issue of her nationality I don't, it doesn't matter.
No “Mata Hary” or other paranoid angles on this story then?
Dec 04th, 2010 - 09:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So unlike you Mr. Kuntz....
You must be tired......
Very tired....
Does anybody remember the last time a Ship got hit in international waters by a anti air missile fired from the Falklands?
Dec 05th, 2010 - 01:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't nor does the IMO, cased closed.
Preceded in close place by think and More craps unhealthy obesseion with Mike Bingham.
More Crap which laws been broken again? I would like its name please and date and who ratified it?
Alas unless you cannot think of such a law?
The Mata Hari crap is entirely your own invention Think. But then avoiding the question to spout crap is your usual response to avoid drawing attention to making a dick of yourself again.
Dec 05th, 2010 - 02:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Let us remind ourselves what Think claimed. He claims I changed the nationality of Bingham's ex-wife. Of course I didn't, I was in fact referring to his girlfriend who was pregnant at the time who was Argentine. Check for yourself if you can be bothered but you'll find he doesn't have any kids with his ex who left him for a Falklander.
And the comment that he got a better offer from Argentina was from Bingham himself.
I take it from all the bluff and bluster after his usual tactic of smears and innuendo he checked the facts online and ooops found he was talking out of his arse. He lies so often he wouldn't recognise the truth if it bit him on the arse.
Whining to the IMO about a short range missile test, communicated in advance and routinely carried out for over 28 years without any problems whatsoever, just shows that Argentines apparently enjoy making dicks of themselves.
At least those in Government. The same corrupt bunch of thieves El Thunko defends at the drop of a hat.
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Dec 05th, 2010 - 02:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Sassenach asks (again):
“Which laws been broken again?
I would like its name please and date and who ratified it?”
I answer (again):
THE 8th COMMANDMENT : ------ * Thou Shalt Not STEAL * ------
Date: About 500 BC?
Ratified by: Humanity!
http://www.apostolic.edu/biblestudy/files/8th-com.htm
Can't steal what you already own Think .... try another!
Dec 05th, 2010 - 03:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ah right, aside from the fact the Falklands have never belonged to Argentina. You live a land stolen from its indigenous peoples. Rather ironic a bunch of thieves trying to steal something they never owned.
Dec 05th, 2010 - 03:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So El Thicko, when do you plan of going back to Europe and returning Argentina to its indigenous people?
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Dec 05th, 2010 - 05:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And lying is a Sin that enslaves the liar.............
60 Rhaurie-se Cagawell “which laws been broken again?”
Dec 05th, 2010 - 05:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your answer Sassenach is at #62
Hey Rhaurie, The First Minister of Scotland and the SNP is making you nervous?
Rhaurie Craughwell
| May 18, 2010 at 12:18 pm
”It is obvious from Mr Delaney’s comments that he feels very strongly about maintaining the Union, and that a visit by an individual who represents a political party whose ultimate aim is to put an end to what he obviously holds dear? Is somewhat incompatible with his beliefs.
Mr Delaney’s criticism’s seem no more outspoken than Mr Salmonds latest claim that Cameron Intends to “steal Scotlands money”, a week after a degree of fiscal autonomy was promised…..?
And surely seem less outspoken than some of the people commenting here (from Scotland) calling him an unelected estate manager...”
http://www.thisisguernsey.com/2010/05/17/snp-leaders-visit-to-sark-is-criticised/
One for the Argies
Dec 05th, 2010 - 05:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0THE 10th COMMANDMENT-(coveting)
Exodus 20:17 “Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that [is] thy neighbour's.”
OHHO I have my own little private stalker and following! aaah how sweet Morecrap!
Dec 05th, 2010 - 07:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Now, how do my opinions and rebuttals to over zealous nationalists in relation to the remarks by a Guernsey man suddenly become of relevance to this question:
Which law states that:
“The islanders may not exploit any mineral wealth or fisheries for their own benefit within their own adminastartive and territorial boundaries”
filed does not mean rejection, baaa ........., so I'm going to spend on explanations, creating what they want, all the world to you is MercoPress.
Dec 05th, 2010 - 08:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0much more of what you believe, you know that the Falklands are Argentine, 1833 taken over by England. It is not necessary international court of justice.
If the United Nations, should return.
What is lol?
“Malvinas Argentinas”
------ * Thou Shalt Not STEAL * ------
Dec 05th, 2010 - 08:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Applies to fish, oil and minerals too.
Even in the South Atlantic,
And,....He's watching...
“Malvinas Argentinas
Dec 05th, 2010 - 08:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I beg to differ,this may help you with your delusional disorder atom ant
http://www.falklands.gov.fk/
El Thicko said:
Dec 05th, 2010 - 09:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“And lying is a Sin that enslaves the liar.............”
Well stop lying then biatch. Try the truth, its easy, when you lie you have to remember both.
“And lying is a Sin that enslaves the liar.............”
Dec 05th, 2010 - 10:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Justin ”He left for Argentina with his Argentine girl friend“
”In February 1999, Mike Bingham flew to Chile to get married to his Chilean sweetheart Elena”
http://www.falklands.net/FalklandsCorruption.shtml
As long as the falklands are british, the argies will moan
Dec 05th, 2010 - 11:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh Margot,
Dec 05th, 2010 - 11:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0His wife left him.
Did you miss that?
“The second reason for moving to Argentina was that my Argentine girlfriend was 5 months pregnant with our daughter at the time of my Supreme Court ruling. Can anybody really blame me for not wanting to start a new life with my new family in the Falklands, in light of everything? I do not see how starting a new life in another country, with my girlfriend and baby, can be wrong. I am sorry if others do.”
Mike Bingham, Jun 05, 2007,
Falklands/Malvinas forum
http://www.falklands-malvinas.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1040&start=100
Straight from the man himself.
Can we expect the liar, fantasist and propagandist El Thicko to apologise for lying yet again? Will his acolyte El Margot admit to his patriarch being an asshole?
Oh and btw I provided the above link to the lying, fantasist long, long ago. He lied, pure and simple, and has been caught being a liar yet again.
Not lying Think ... try another :-)
Dec 06th, 2010 - 12:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0So having comprehensively rebutted the resident forum lying scumbag again.
Dec 06th, 2010 - 12:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0Could someone explain how broadcasting in advance, as they have done for 28 years, establishing a safe zone per IMO regulations and 28 years of testing going off without a hitch is grounds for complaint.
Or is it just someone being a prat?
Liars need not reply.
THIMC
Dec 06th, 2010 - 07:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Valuable things can come from odd places!
This link provided by (the ever insulting) Mr. Kuntz is very useful for anybody wishing to know a lot more about the penguin plight in Malvinas.
http://www.falklands-malvinas.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1040&postdays=0&postorder=asc&&start=0
Furthermore, Dr. Bingham answers all kind of questions and recriminations in a very calm and composed way and even expresses his support for the Islanders right to self-determination :-(
All this confirms, yet again, my previous opinion about Dr. Bingham as a Whistleblower being punished by the system and the dominant society in Malvinas.
A bit like what it is happening today with Julian Assange all over the world……………….
Anyhow, it warms my heart to read from his own hand that he was able to reconstruct his life in Argentina with his new girlfriend/wife and a good job.
Margot!
Dec 06th, 2010 - 09:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0You've yet to answer my question :)
Which law states that:
“The islanders may not exploit any mineral wealth or fisheries for their own benefit within their own administrative and territorial boundaries”
Thou shall not steal is not an acceptable answer.
surely there must be a law somewhere you can think of, just the name, date ratified and who ratified it and who abides by it :)
So easy for my intellect, not so easy for a dumbkampf reactionary who gobs his mouth off before thinking.
Mr Bingham, not Dr...think he hasn't got a PHD, he seems to have got himself bummed royally on that forum.
But i'm not surprised, Argies have an inherent need to beleive his every word.
One wonders if he was gobbing his mouth off about the same thing in Argentina, would he be held in the highest regard as he is by yourself.
Probably not.
Surely these are desperate times when Malvinists use Bingham as a source? For no other reason than to have a dig at the islanders.
pathetic really.
Unsurprisingly the liar El Thicko, having been caught and exposed as a liar, caught in a bare faced LIE, smearing and using innuendo to distract from the fact he is a liar, does the liar apologise for lying and making a completed unfounded allegation based on lies?
Dec 06th, 2010 - 09:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0No.
As usual a volte face and more wibbling to distract from the attention he is a liar.
On topic once more.
Could someone explain how broadcasting in advance, as they have done for 28 years, establishing a safe zone per IMO regulations and 28 years of testing going off without a hitch is grounds for complaint.
Or is it just someone being a prat?
Liars need not reply. Take the hint El Thicko, the liar.
(79) Says:
Dec 06th, 2010 - 09:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0”Thou shall not steal is not an acceptable answer.”
and:
”So easy for my intellect, not so easy for a dumbkampf reactionary who gobs his mouth off before thinking.”
Who does this Rhaurie guy remind me of ???
Ohhhh. Yessss…. The proverbial Black Knight :-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjEcj8KpuJw
(80)
Yaaaaaaawn..............
Actually El Thicko you've often reminded me of the Black Knight, having your claims and arguments regularly debunked, then coming back with empty threats and insults.
Dec 06th, 2010 - 10:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0Much like Argentina's claims to the Falklands went the way of the Norwegian Blue back in 1982.
Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's ass.
Yes think of course....
Dec 06th, 2010 - 11:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0remind me again whose the idiot who still thinks that a PHD brought from a fake university= the title of doctor, and a 12 page “dissertation” of the same academic quality as AS level coursework is concrete proof of a oppressed academic colossus in the same vein of Darwin, or still continually wishes to believe the nutty rantings of an individual with more character flaws and lies under his belt than Tony Blair.
Its just very unfortunate that Bingham happened to have the word Falklands next to him when you found out about him.
Otherwise you have dismissed him for the lunatic he is.
Black knights eh? I think you follow the analogy far better than myself, far better.
There are some so blind, who simply must in spite of all fact against them, that they must believe they can see.
You are one of them Thunk.
Now back to the question:
Which law states that:
“The islanders may not exploit any mineral wealth or fisheries for their own benefit within their own administrative and territorial boundaries”
Something 20th - 21st century would do fine (That is if such a law exists lol :)), biblical scriptures do not tend to govern international law makers rational. Otherwise we should be setting upon Bhuddist and Hindu nations with much vigour for violation of the commandant: “Thou shallt not create brazen images”.
B-gger back to square one eh? think.
Piece of Cake...........
Dec 06th, 2010 - 06:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Higest Law of my Country.
The Argentinean Constitution.
(Ammended recently ;-)
#84 UN Resolution 31/49
Dec 06th, 2010 - 08:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“4. Calls upon the two parties to refrain from taking decisions that would imply introducing unilateral modifications in the situation while the islands are going through the process recommended in the above-mentioned resolutions; ”
We've heard a lot about 31/49 of late from Argentina about Britain's “unilateral” action. Tell me is incorporating an illogical irrendentist claim into the Argentine constitution not a unilateral action?
Two faced and hypocritical bigotry, eh, El Thicko?
And the Falklands not being Argentine territory, you can pass whatever stupid laws you like, they don't mean a thing.
Good point.
Dec 06th, 2010 - 09:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But I'm yet to find the paragraph and section which relates to my above question.
There's a very very obscure amendment added in 1994 which makes a reference to claiming some islands and their corresponding maritime space.
But nothing to suggest a violation of international law in the vein you and morecrap have been arguing.
And anyway, the forceful application of that amendment seems to have issues, in that ..... eerm, they have yet to be put into practice? I think section 6 of your own constitution demands this doesn't it?
oh yes and who could forget the democratic defecit? The territory in question didn't exactly get the option to vote on the proposals did they?
I beleive there is actually a law against that:
Article 1 in both the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR)[12] and the International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights (ICESCR).
Both read: “All peoples have the right of self-determination. By virtue of that right they freely determine their political status and freely pursue their economic, social and cultural development.”
Having a vote on incorporating the islands in your constitution without the free consent of their peoples sounds a bit like your depriving them of the above rights?
Funny how I can come up with potential breaches of actual ratified law, and the best tweedle dum (think) and tweedle dee (Morecrap) is a generalised reference to the word law and breach.
Ahh, the mythical 31/49
Dec 06th, 2010 - 11:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.falklands.info/history/unresolutions.html
Of course the only binding resolutions (and even then, arguably) are those issued by the Security Council.
“ ... Most experts[1] consider most General Assembly resolutions to be non-binding. Articles 10 and 14 of the UN Charter refer to General Assembly as ”recommendations“; the recommendatory nature of General Assembly resolutions has repeatedly been stressed by the International Court of Justice.[2] However, some General Assembly resolutions dealing with matters internal to the United Nations, such as budgetary decisions or instructions to lower-ranking organs, are clearly binding on their addressees...”
http://www.falklands.inf
Argentina does love to rely upon the unreliable :-)
75 Justino, I was not able to open your link but so what, he married more than once, he was married to Elena (Chilean) that is a fact.
Dec 07th, 2010 - 05:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0“On the international arena the Falkland Islands Government were exposed and humiliated. Despite attempts by the British and Falklands governments to prevent the British press running the story, the story did hit the headlines, from London to Buenos Aires. The Falklands was exposed as an outpost of political greed and corruption, where politicians lined their pockets with money from commercial fishing, whilst penguins starved. Gone was the pedestal of moral superiority from which the Falklands had looked down on their South American neighbours for so many years. It had now been officially declared by the Supreme Court that the Falkland Islands Government were corrupt, committing human rights violations in an attempt to cover up the damage which commercial fishing was causing to penguin populations.”
Faced with eventual imprisonment at the hands of corrupt government officials in the Falklands, or working with the support of three governments in South America, the choice was easy.“
”Working in Chile and Argentina was such a joy. Both countries held a genuine concern for the protection of wildlife, not a desire to set up a phoney front to give the impression of doing something, as was happening in the Falklands“
”Whilst the Falklands Regime tried to frame, deport and even threaten to kill anybody who conducted independent research into their handling of the environment, the governments of Chile and Argentina openly welcomed independent scrutiny. Their conservation efforts were genuine. They had nothing to hide, and hoped to benefit from outside scrutiny that could improve the work they were doing.“
http://www.authorhouse.com/BookStore/BookDetail.aspx?Book=246718
86 Rhaurie-se Cagawell , “All peoples have the right of self-determination...”
Like the Chagossians?
You are not only a liar but also a hypocrite.
Well spotted MoreCrap .. the Chagossians do have the right to self determination .... it's possession that they're actually having a problem with !
Dec 07th, 2010 - 06:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0More crap :) The last time I looked we were talking about which law prevents the islanders from drilling.
Dec 07th, 2010 - 07:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0Not about your erotic fantasies about Bingham and the Chagossians.
...so do be a good chap and stop avoiding the question :)
I am neither a hypocrite, nor a liar, I am very clever use actual academic sources, and well used to wiping the floor with gobby Malvinist amatuers such as yourself :D
ps. Quite funny you should use the Chagossians, can we assume that because you Malvinists are opposed to self-determination you actively supported their eviction?
If so why the indignant outrage and calling me a hypocrite....
More crap your not a hypocrite, but your a contradiction in evolution :)
Unless you are avoiding uncomfortable questions
It's funny how Marcobobo sees no problem with the Chagossian's right to self determination yet at the same time denies that right to the Falkland Islanders. It's one of the other, it can't be both... but then again, we're dealing with Argentine “logic” here...
Dec 07th, 2010 - 08:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Margot,
Dec 07th, 2010 - 10:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0His girlfriend was Argentine, keep on digging. The link proves it in his own words.
BTW Margot the Supreme Court said no such thing, in fact the Supreme Court was less than complimentary about Bingham commenting that in many ways he was the author of his own misfortune.
And Margot, were his claims correct, then the Penguin population would be now extinct but rather embarassingly they're thriving.
PS Yes the Chagossians enjoy self-determination, if you support that position and I do (hence my photo call at that demonstration you posted so mant outrageous racist comments about), then you would also support the Falkland Islanders against both the British and Argentine Governments and I do. I view the FCO with as much suspicion as I do the prats in the Casa Rosado.
If on the other hand you don't support the right to self-determination, then bringing up the Chagossians is nothing but moral hypocrisy. Seeing as you'd happily do the same to the Falkland Islanders as would the FCO.
“the Chagossians do have the right to self determination ”
Dec 07th, 2010 - 04:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I didn't know that The three Stooges is on again, What Self determination are you talking about! That is their land!. They were forced out of their homeland like they did in Malvinas in 1833 and that's against any law that you can think or admit. Thieves never admit that they stole anything.
“But what about the Falklanders? One would not wish them to suffer a similar fate to that of the Chagossians; and the fact that Britain upholds the 'principle of democratic self-determination' for the inhabitants of its small remaining colonies only when that accords with the UK's economic and strategic interests does not by itself prove that the claim of the people living on the Falklands / Malvinas islands should be given no moral or political credence”
Ah Margot, ignoring the fact he and his master El Thicko were caught lying again.
Dec 07th, 2010 - 05:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yeah, what the British Government did to the Chagossians was wrong, illegal and immoral. I have admitted that, time and time again. I do in fact belong to the organisation campaigning for their rights to be restored.
There was no one forced out in the Falkland in 1833, the people living there continued to live there. What Argentina claims is a lie.
There is a theme emerging here, Think lies, Margot lies and what the Argentine Government claims is a LIE.
The UK has no economic or strategic interests in the Falklands and right up to 1982, it was withdrawing and drawing down on its commitments. The current British presence is there solely because of the continuing threat from the regional bully whose invasion fleet would be on the way the moment the British indicated any intention to leave.
But Margots utter moral cowardice and hypocrisy is shown when he would happily repeat what the Chagos islanders experienced, claiming the rights of Falklanders have no “moral or political credence”.
Bare faced and utter hypocrite.
Talking of thieves, do you plan to return Patagonia to its native peoples, seeing as you stole it during your genocidal “War of the Desert”?
“In the process which followed, which was that of the forced expulsion of the population of the Chagos from the islands, the islanders were offered no recourse to self-determination. Dispossesed of their homes and their means of livelihood, the democratic choice offered to the Chagossians was to become slum-dwellers on the Mauritius mainland. For the inconvenience of having to accommodate these refugees, the government of Maurituis was compensated with the princely sum of three million pounds.
Dec 07th, 2010 - 05:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Like the Falklanders, the Chagossians were approximately two thousand in number. Unlike the Falklanders, they were dark skinned and not of British ancestry”
Justino The Liar “The UK has no economic or strategic interests in the Falklands”
The unprinciple of self-determination
”Almost three decades later, new advances in petroleum prospecting and extraction technology have made drilling for oil in the area potentially profitable; the UK's justification for authorising drilling, however, is fundamentally similar to that which was used to win support for the war in 1982: the population of the Falklands (now risen to 3,140 civilian residents, plus 500 British soldiers) regard themselves as British, so the hydrocarbon resouces under the sea bed which surrounds the colony must therefore belong to Britain”
95 Marcos Alejandro:
Dec 07th, 2010 - 07:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So...You either support Self Determination...And the Falklanders should be left alone.
Or you don't support Self Determination...And you support what was done to them.
Need to make up your mind Marcos. At the moment you're a walking contradiction.
96 Zethee
Dec 07th, 2010 - 08:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There is not point of talking about self determination, used as an excuse by London to justify their wrong doing in the past and selfish interest.
Chagossians must be allowed back to their homeland and Malvinas must be return to Argentina. If the islanders wish to stay is fine with me and most of Argentina, however Britain should go back where they belong, in Europe of course.
Margot the proven liar, who seems to think that accusing others is of itself enough. Funnily enough every time you lot accuse me of lying you end up with egg on your face.
Dec 07th, 2010 - 08:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Look at the track record. The FCO would have happily sold out the Falkland Islanders too. What was different was the Falkland Islanders managed to organise a Parliamentary lobby to stimy the FCO plans. Skin colour played no part in it, as I said the FCO would have sold out the Falklanders just as cheaply given half a chance.
Again the UK has no ecomomic interest. Revenues go to the FIG who issued the licenses. Don't you get it yet. The resources and revenues go to the islanders.
Again look at the track record, in 1982 the UK was scaling down and withdrawing from the South Atlantic.
Strategic interest. Track record, UK was scaling down and withdrawing.
OK stick a fork in this one, he's done.
Justino The Liar, FCO would happily sold out their own mother if they could.
Dec 08th, 2010 - 12:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0The statement ”Like the Falklanders, the Chagossians were approximately two thousand in number. Unlike the Falklanders, they were dark skinned and not of British ancestry” is a fact and idiots like you think that taking a picture with them will be enough are full of it. Return their homeland to the Chagossians and Malvinas to Argentina and then take all the pictures that you want you fool.
MoreCrap it's impossible to 'return' something that was never owned by the claimant.
Dec 08th, 2010 - 01:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0The only sovereignty dispute over the Falkland Islands was between Britain and Spain. We went back to reinforce our cliam in 1833, Spain didn't. End of story! Argentina was never a party to the claim and by the time Argentina could inherit anything from Spain in the 1850's the islands dispute was over!
The Falkland Islands are British and no twisting of history or internationally accepted laws is likely to change that fact!
Oh Margot, in your vapid desire to pour forth your racist bile, you inadvertently hit the nail on the proverbial head.
Dec 08th, 2010 - 01:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0“FCO would happily sold out their own mother if they could.”
Indeed yes they would but the hope you'd finally got it was immediately dashed.
Historical records shows in the '60s and '70s the FCO were doing their damndest to sell out on the Falkland Islanders. They did their level best.
I view the Casa Rosado and the FCO through the same jaundiced eyes, don't see much difference between the two of them.
Doing my level best to ensure the Chagossians get justice, if you're so interesting I can post a link to a PayPal address where you can dip your hand in your pocket and support our campaign. Equally I'll do my damndest to make sure the FCO doesn't do the same to the Falkland Islanders.
Lets see if you'll put your money where you mouth is.
Again what you don't seem to get, is you're advocating doing exactly what happened in the Chagos Islands.
Morecrap, do you actually have any opinions of your own? Or are you so pathetically endowed on that front that you have to steal John Pilgers Opinions.
Dec 08th, 2010 - 02:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Lets go and have a look at your morally defunct double contradictions?
You steal Mister Pilgers opinions and display in such a manner that makes you seem indignantly outraged at this violation of self-determination, but you then say that the islanders despite after 180 years of living in the islanders, with many families descended from even Vernetts settlers, don’t have any rights to self-determination?
Wow you are the stooge!
And you haven’t even answered my question LOL!
Which law prevents the islanders from drilling Dumbkampf! Hahahaha can't you think of one? Can't you even name a UN resolution forbidding the Islanders from drilling?
You can’t even answer any questions, you can’t even generate your own opinions!
You are an amateur!
Argentinas claims to the islands are amateurish!
Argentinas methods for claiming them are amateurish!
In short Morecrap, you need a new hobby ☺
“Chagossians must be allowed back to their homeland and Malvinas must be return to Argentina.”
Dec 08th, 2010 - 02:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So you support the Chagossians self determination, but not the islanders?
Contradiction.
Zethee , I support the return of Malvinas to Argentina and Chagos to the Chagossians and the end of British colonialism.
Dec 08th, 2010 - 08:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hey Justin, terrorist murder Abdelbaset Al-Megrahi is still alive in Libya? He was allowed to return to his homeland after killing 270 innocent civilians, oil deal maybe? That's ok, isn't?
Hey Justin, terrorist murder Abdelbaset Al-Megrahi is still alive in Libya? He was allowed to return to his homeland after killing 270 innocent civilians
Dec 08th, 2010 - 10:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Anyone for a nice big slice of Argie Hypocrisy
http://en.mercopress.com/2010/09/20/disagreement-over-terrorist-extradition-could-sour-chile-argentine-relations
So Morecrap, how can you support the end of colonialism, when you desire to colonise the Falklands?
Dec 09th, 2010 - 12:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You support the self-determination of Chagoisons, yet not those of the Falklanders? even though those descnded from Vernetts settlers?
You are such a hypocrite and an amateur!
hahaha its hilarious, keep it up old bean, with warped thought processes such as yourself, the Falklands will be British for ever!
Now which law have the islanders violated which prevents them fishing and drilling for oil in their territorial and administrative boundaries?
Oh wait! You can't can you because no such law exists! hahahah! amateur!
Maybe you could post David Moss and John Pilgers OPINIONS (not facts) and try to pretend they are your words and opinions and that they are facts!
Oh my dear Morecrap, you are a contradiction in thought, word and birth!
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