United States President Barack Obama has announced that he will pay his first visit to Brazil and other South American countries in March. Read full article
but no visit to Argentina then, and we all know why, but having said that he is most certainly up to something,
does not some of these places fly the flag,
either way I dont trust him, sorry
“In Brazil, Obama will meet with new President Dilma Rousseff to discuss areas of mutual interest and contribute to developing the “excellent relationship” between the two countries, Hammer said. Among the areas where US-Brazilian ties are strong, he cited clean energy, global growth, assistance to Haiti and development efforts.”..........
Brasil would be well pleased if Rousseff were able to get:
(i) REDD+ monies from the USA to ‘Carbon-offset’ against forest protection (Cancun Agreement).
(ii) Biodiversity agreements firmed up bi-laterally, to agree on the profit-sharing from secondary pharmaceutical (etc) developments originating from eg Amazonia.
The USA responds well to hard-headed business meetings where both parties can be seen to turn a profit; and the US needs contact with ‘Dilma’s Brasil’ so it understands that hard-headed negotiation is the way things will be here and now.
And if the USA can regain markets and sphere of influence in South America from a rampant China, this will be no bad thing.
South America is changing FAST, and the USA will need to change the paradigm and its modus operandi if it is to regain its former influence.
Apparently the Arg embassy here is going crazy over this! CFK is furious! I have been saying for a long time Argentina is like Bolivia , irrelevant and forgotten.
I do think the treatment of Bush will not be forgotten, but what you don't seem to understand is that was an embarrassment for your country not The USA. Uncle Hugo bribed the Ks, got his march, the protesters destroyed a lot of private property and The Ks were blacklisted. Was it worth it? Maybe when CFK is in jail the USA and Argentina can try to reestablish relations but it will take a very long time.
Dishonorable and Graceless and you reap what you sow.
Better for EVERYONE! Carter 2 will be gone in 2 years.
The campaign will start shortly and this time there are 10s of MILLIONS of people that will try to elect anybody but obama.
Plus the new census map and the majority of new Repub Governors has made it much more difficult for him to get reelected. Pretty hard to campaign in a state when the Governor doesn't support you and the state is leaning Republican. It is a whole different ball game this time.
Please remember that your visitor (or otherwise) will be *The President of the USA*, it will not be John Doe, Joe Bloggs, or Barack Obama.
He has visited Mexico and T&T, and will visit Brasil, Chile and El Salvador to forge new alliances, to strengthen old ones, to develop excellent relationships, and create bi-lateral and regional co-operations.
His specifically declared agendas are clean energy, global growth, helping Haiti, stimulating development, nuclear security, crisis management, supporting economic developments of ex-pats living in the USA, and BRIC partnerships.
The President of the greatest economic force on earth, the leader of the most important hegemony in the world, and (by far) the greatest donator of aid – the President brings these agendas to the table.
The President is holding out his hand where previous Presidents did otherwise. Try not to maul his outstretched hand before he reveals his specific points of partnership, development and aid.
Ha ha who needs the president of US when you can talk directly with his boss Fred?
@GeoffWard
“The President of the greatest economic force on earth, the leader of the most important hegemony in the world, and (by far) the greatest donator of aid – the President brings these agendas to the table.”
You forgot to mention the president of the biggest debtor country in the world, with higher liabilities to be pay in human history (150 t) and with U6 unemployment close to 18% and close to 60 million poor.
The rest Wow are you talking about 20 year ago???
Geoff come on get back to planet earth please you sound like the Pomies talking about the British Empire. Then cannot assume that was gone.
Obama is making a lot of mistakes when choosing his allies and priorities, even if his actions like upsetting the Brits is good for us or ignoring Argentina in his agenda, all has consequence even though for USA. You should have learned that from bush experience.
In teasing you can sometimes find a little truth.
My post at #10 was largely a restatement of the article to enable me to add a rider.
My rider Try not to maul his outstretched hand before he reveals his specific points of partnership, development and aid was a useful bit of guidance.
The UK got a bit huffy at not being first in line at earlier Presidential meetings, but they understand the concept of a queue. The *order* of the queue is part of the political message that becomes part of the package.
Argentina is not in the first five countries for very good and very sound political reasons - reasons rooted in recent historical relations. These will pass with time, and 'normal', 'friendly' relations can resume across the Americas - for Argentina, Christina just has to work out what the appropriate signal is.
Just a thought though - best not to pass it via the normal diplomatic channels, Wikileaks is still being fed, and the Argentinian population would not be happy with her back-channel conversations with Mrs Clinton.
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Disclaimer & comment rulesI guess he doesn't like Cristina
Jan 27th, 2011 - 12:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIXNYpsFYUc
but no visit to Argentina then, and we all know why, but having said that he is most certainly up to something,
Jan 27th, 2011 - 01:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0does not some of these places fly the flag,
either way I dont trust him, sorry
He's a liar. But unfortunately, I'm sure that one day he'll come to Argentina.
Jan 27th, 2011 - 01:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0Obama is cornered in US and even his wife tries avoid him in public haha.
Jan 27th, 2011 - 11:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0The fear of Obama is to have a reception in Argentina like W. Moron Bush in 2005.
Anyway I like the part of...
“Chile.. has quickly become a regional leader in the area of nuclear security”
Wow and he forgot to say stronger ally and stronger friend too.
I just will wait to see what is he going to say when visit Trinidad and Tobago, best and stronger business partner perhaps?
Good Riddance Mr Oreo man.
Jan 27th, 2011 - 11:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0your absence will not be missed.
In fact, we don't need you.
“In Brazil, Obama will meet with new President Dilma Rousseff to discuss areas of mutual interest and contribute to developing the “excellent relationship” between the two countries, Hammer said. Among the areas where US-Brazilian ties are strong, he cited clean energy, global growth, assistance to Haiti and development efforts.”..........
Jan 27th, 2011 - 01:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Brasil would be well pleased if Rousseff were able to get:
(i) REDD+ monies from the USA to ‘Carbon-offset’ against forest protection (Cancun Agreement).
(ii) Biodiversity agreements firmed up bi-laterally, to agree on the profit-sharing from secondary pharmaceutical (etc) developments originating from eg Amazonia.
The USA responds well to hard-headed business meetings where both parties can be seen to turn a profit; and the US needs contact with ‘Dilma’s Brasil’ so it understands that hard-headed negotiation is the way things will be here and now.
And if the USA can regain markets and sphere of influence in South America from a rampant China, this will be no bad thing.
South America is changing FAST, and the USA will need to change the paradigm and its modus operandi if it is to regain its former influence.
Apparently the Arg embassy here is going crazy over this! CFK is furious! I have been saying for a long time Argentina is like Bolivia , irrelevant and forgotten.
Jan 27th, 2011 - 04:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I do think the treatment of Bush will not be forgotten, but what you don't seem to understand is that was an embarrassment for your country not The USA. Uncle Hugo bribed the Ks, got his march, the protesters destroyed a lot of private property and The Ks were blacklisted. Was it worth it? Maybe when CFK is in jail the USA and Argentina can try to reestablish relations but it will take a very long time.
Dishonorable and Graceless and you reap what you sow.
the sooner this guy goes the better for great britain
Jan 27th, 2011 - 04:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Better for EVERYONE! Carter 2 will be gone in 2 years.
Jan 27th, 2011 - 04:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The campaign will start shortly and this time there are 10s of MILLIONS of people that will try to elect anybody but obama.
Plus the new census map and the majority of new Repub Governors has made it much more difficult for him to get reelected. Pretty hard to campaign in a state when the Governor doesn't support you and the state is leaning Republican. It is a whole different ball game this time.
Please remember that your visitor (or otherwise) will be *The President of the USA*, it will not be John Doe, Joe Bloggs, or Barack Obama.
Jan 27th, 2011 - 08:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He has visited Mexico and T&T, and will visit Brasil, Chile and El Salvador to forge new alliances, to strengthen old ones, to develop excellent relationships, and create bi-lateral and regional co-operations.
His specifically declared agendas are clean energy, global growth, helping Haiti, stimulating development, nuclear security, crisis management, supporting economic developments of ex-pats living in the USA, and BRIC partnerships.
The President of the greatest economic force on earth, the leader of the most important hegemony in the world, and (by far) the greatest donator of aid – the President brings these agendas to the table.
The President is holding out his hand where previous Presidents did otherwise. Try not to maul his outstretched hand before he reveals his specific points of partnership, development and aid.
@fredbdc
Jan 27th, 2011 - 10:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“I do think the treatment of Bush will not be forgotten” ha ha ha
and so what?
What are you going to do?
Anyway don’t worry your boss was well received here in Argentina with all honors, I mean president Hu Jintao.
http://www.elpais.com/fotografia/internacional/presidenta/argentina/Cristina/Fernandez/homologo/chino/Hu/Jintao/pasado/julio/elpdiaint/20110102elpepuint_16/Ies/
http://www.elpais.com/fotografia/internacional/presidenta/argentina/Cristina/Fernandez/homologo/chino/Hu/Jintao/pasado/julio/elpdiaint/20110102elpepuint_16/Ies/
I see Obama did very well also http://www.elpais.com/fotografia/internacional/presidenta/argentina/Cristina/Fernandez/homologo/chino/Hu/Jintao/pasado/julio/elpdiaint/20110102elpepuint_16/Ies/
Oh please put a pillow or something before the poor guy hit is heat on the floor.
http://www.elpais.com/fotografia/internacional/presidenta/argentina/Cristina/Fernandez/homologo/chino/Hu/Jintao/pasado/julio/elpdiaint/20110102elpepuint_16/Ies/
Ha ha who needs the president of US when you can talk directly with his boss Fred?
@GeoffWard
“The President of the greatest economic force on earth, the leader of the most important hegemony in the world, and (by far) the greatest donator of aid – the President brings these agendas to the table.”
You forgot to mention the president of the biggest debtor country in the world, with higher liabilities to be pay in human history (150 t) and with U6 unemployment close to 18% and close to 60 million poor.
The rest Wow are you talking about 20 year ago???
Geoff come on get back to planet earth please you sound like the Pomies talking about the British Empire. Then cannot assume that was gone.
Obama is making a lot of mistakes when choosing his allies and priorities, even if his actions like upsetting the Brits is good for us or ignoring Argentina in his agenda, all has consequence even though for USA. You should have learned that from bush experience.
: )
In teasing you can sometimes find a little truth.
Jan 28th, 2011 - 11:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0My post at #10 was largely a restatement of the article to enable me to add a rider.
My rider Try not to maul his outstretched hand before he reveals his specific points of partnership, development and aid was a useful bit of guidance.
The UK got a bit huffy at not being first in line at earlier Presidential meetings, but they understand the concept of a queue. The *order* of the queue is part of the political message that becomes part of the package.
Argentina is not in the first five countries for very good and very sound political reasons - reasons rooted in recent historical relations. These will pass with time, and 'normal', 'friendly' relations can resume across the Americas - for Argentina, Christina just has to work out what the appropriate signal is.
Just a thought though - best not to pass it via the normal diplomatic channels, Wikileaks is still being fed, and the Argentinian population would not be happy with her back-channel conversations with Mrs Clinton.
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