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Spain’s Prince Felipe recalls Gibraltar at state dinner for Prince of Wales
Spain’s longstanding claim over the sovereignty of Gibraltar looked destined to continue into the next generation of Spanish politics as the heir to the Spanish throne, the Prince of Asturias, used a state dinner for the Prince of Wales and Duchess of Cornwall to reiterate Spain’s desire to ‘progress’ on Gibraltar. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesIt seems that everyone is jumping on the band wagon,
Apr 02nd, 2011 - 08:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and the reply is, [the lion is still asleep]
as the American president once said, [Britain,, a nation of lions, led by donkeys‘] so, nothings changed then .
I am not afraid of an army of lions led by a sheep; I am afraid of an army of sheep led by a lion.
Apr 02nd, 2011 - 09:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Alexander the Great
poor Greeks
Apr 02nd, 2011 - 11:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0jajajaja !!!!
Apr 03rd, 2011 - 12:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0It seems the tables are finally starting to turn.
Apr 03rd, 2011 - 05:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0Sometimes you have it good at the beginning, sometimes at the end.
The UK will not have it good at the end.
Quite apart from the rights of the people of Gibraltar, the Spanish would get more respect in their claim if they “returned” Ceuta & Melilla to Morrocco. Keep dreaming about tables, Martin.
Apr 03rd, 2011 - 09:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0Comment removed by the editor.
Apr 03rd, 2011 - 10:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Can anyone remind me what the result was of the last referendum that Gibraltar had about joint rule?
Apr 03rd, 2011 - 10:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Wasn't it awfully similar to the previous referendum on Spanish rule?
The number 99 springs to mind, can't think why...
“We have at times been bounded by trade, by politics, by Treaty and by marriage. And, at other times, we have been divided by war, by religion and by economic rivalry. But I think I can say without fear of contradiction that throughout the centuries, one thing we have never lacked is mutual respect and admiration, irrespective of the side of the argument on which we have found ourselves”
Apr 03rd, 2011 - 11:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0Now that's the way to set the tone for reconciliatory activities - so much can be learned from the old world and it's innate politenesses.
“It seems the tables are finally starting to turn.”
Apr 03rd, 2011 - 01:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0....How? Spain has been moaning about gibraltar for longer then you lot have about the falklands.
They even signed it away, legally.
Oh dear Martin, and I've just seen you crying ignorance by Islanders and Brits over Argentina :)
Apr 03rd, 2011 - 08:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Now my turn to cry ignorance by you over Gibraltar :)
Argentina has alot to learn from this situation, Spain has turned off the aggression and is now actively wooing the Gibraltarians, Spain has got further in the last 10 years with this policy than in the last 300 years with the previous policy of bitch slapping and isolation.
In fact when you go to Spain, the Rock or La Linea, the whole place is marked by the absence of any dispute and hard feelings, it is as one local put it “The hobby horse of the political elite”, another one said “where else would I get duty free wine and cigarettes so close to home”.
Perhaps its time Argentina should start extolling the benefits that Islanders would have under Argentina, instead of rhetoric....you want the UK to negotiate, well offer something constructive then, other than ”You are terribly naughty for not negotiating or listening to a now (de-funct) UN assembly resolution, if you don't negotiate with us we will say naughty things about you and prevent Argentina companies from drilling in our waters, oh yes and we don't recognise the islanders because they are a mighty inconvenience and this self-determination thing is tedious as it denies us sovereignty” and so on and so forth?
Why do I get the impression sometimes that Argentina has evolved slightly isolated from the rest of the world? The maximum international interaction you have at the minute is with....eeer? Other former Iberian colonies....
Today Britain sends 600 royal marines, and 4 ships to give humanitarian
Apr 03rd, 2011 - 09:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0help to the people in libya who need it, another example of the good guys trying to help the little guys
@12 is that the reason or ...let's be sure that the oil keeps flowing, the country gets back to normal so the price of gasoline goes down? Here the gallon is @ 4 dollars wtf !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Apr 03rd, 2011 - 09:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0hahaha... briton you're so full of shit
Apr 04th, 2011 - 07:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0Let's just stick with the subject.
Apr 04th, 2011 - 09:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0Gibraltar will NEVER be Spanish. Why? Because the people of Gibraltar don't want to be Spanish. They see so many things they don't like on the other side of the border. As witness La Linea's inability to pay its own employees because it is broke.
Quite a parallel with the Falkland Islands actually. People who have been in place for eight or nine generations look over the water and want none of what they see. Even without the threats, the breaches of the UN Charter and the breaches of international law.
and in neither case will Britain back down. Not in 5 years, not in 50 years, not in 500 years.
@7 Martino, so by your reckoning, its alright for Spain to keep 2 cities near Morrocco's coast but not alright for Britain to keep one city near Spain's coast? Hypocrite! Are you Spanish?
Apr 04th, 2011 - 10:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0When is Argentina going to return the land it stole from Paraguay? Soon?
14 Martin_Fierro (#)
Apr 04th, 2011 - 10:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0hahaha... Martin you're so full of shit
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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-04-03/britain-to-send-600-navy-marines-ships-to-libya-times-says.html
this is what was sent, but if that’s shit, then so be it, but at least its British shit, and not Argentinean cowardice, where’s your contribution , hiding under Christina’s skirt as usual lol
15,
Apr 04th, 2011 - 02:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Because the people of Gibraltar don't want to be Spanish.”
Cut the crap already...
16,
“not alright for Britain to keep one city near Spain's coast”
NEAR Spain's coast??? It is ON Spain, leave it at that and revise your statement if you want me to answer your question.
Paraguay? Really?
17,
Why would Argentina send troops to Libya? Because you think they should? Your comment was simply stupid.
And why is the comment stupid why
Apr 04th, 2011 - 02:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0are you then saying all others are stupid, it would not hurt argentina to offer some help , but then again having friends like hugo, , [now thats stupid]
We have peacekeeping missions in Haiti, Chipre (Cyprus?). From 150,000 army troops in the 80's now we are down to 25,000. Who do you want us to send? would it make a difference? .... just a thought.
Apr 04th, 2011 - 03:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 019 briton,
Apr 04th, 2011 - 03:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“but then again having friends like hugo”
Lets see, he offers military help in the event of a war, and invests heavily in Argentine shipyards. Yeah.. he is clearly an enemy of the state. Shut the f@ck up briton.
Chavez buys weapons to protect himself from a possible invasion by the US, which is pretty much possible if he stops the flow of oil so I don't see the monkey (Chavez) helping us in any other issue rather then election money for Cristina .....
Apr 04th, 2011 - 04:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't think there's gonna be a war so we'll never know. I don't think putting a twist on every single issue can be justified either, artillero, but that's just me.
Apr 04th, 2011 - 05:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0i agree
Apr 04th, 2011 - 05:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 024,
Apr 04th, 2011 - 05:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Have you seen this video? It's really good.
1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYlQpmJEuso
2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYlQpmJEuso
ya los habia visto y gracias por mandarlos de nuevo .... no solo me da tristeza pero una tremenda bronca !!
Apr 04th, 2011 - 06:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0very good video Martín
Apr 04th, 2011 - 06:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 026 & 27
Apr 04th, 2011 - 06:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks...
It's just unbelievable
oh !!! pero siga la joda !!!!!!!!!!!
Apr 04th, 2011 - 06:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0martin you winker.
Apr 04th, 2011 - 07:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0that’s what all winkers and degenerate maggots do look to Hugo another winker.
martin the degenerate idiot who backs losers, so fxck you.
shit face,
not nice to be insulted is it maggot, so complain and always be a smelly maggot shit turs.
isn’t nice to say nice things .
Thats quite right Martin...that video is unbelievable as you quite rightly said, because virtually none of it is factual, its a good outlet for the Argentine outrage bus I will grant you that, but nothing more nothing less :)
Apr 04th, 2011 - 07:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0.....meanwhile back on planet earth.
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Apr 04th, 2011 - 08:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Chavez
Apr 04th, 2011 - 08:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0is all mouth and no trousers, only fools and supporters of dictators and murderers , think he is anything but, isn’t that right martin,
the world is changing and their is no place for these degenerate murderers, they care nothing for the innocent, isnt that right martin, the man who never cares, and a staunch supporter of dictators,
[now i may be wrong] perhaps martin is not a degenerate gutter snake
perhaps he does like the freedom of America, a freedom that his friend Hugo would sfuff up his arse, but only the great martin can tell us, unless of course we are all idiots, martin,,, the greatest thing about a comment is that its free, alas in some places they would put you up the wall and shoot you, , the difference is martins opinion, ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh shittttttttt,
[nice video martin ,,nice video ]
Wow Brits, the video had a bigger impact on you than I ever would have thought possible..........
Apr 04th, 2011 - 08:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Truth hurts, and you're sure as hell showing it.
Sorry I interrupted you....... please, keep ranting. : P
Thats ok, time over, back to the drawing board lol
Apr 04th, 2011 - 08:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0on the other hand, US policy (and allies) supported and supporting for years dictators such us : Gaddafi (Lybia) , Mubarak (Egypt), Shaikh Khalīfa (Bahrain), etc, etc for the sake of keeping the region stable without obviously caring for the people without mentioning Noriega, Sadam Hussein and the most popular Osama Bin laden.... so again, are we having a double standard??
Apr 04th, 2011 - 08:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sadly my friend you are correct, mmmmmmm
Apr 04th, 2011 - 08:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0but that’s politics for you, we may object, but our governments have more fingers in pies than a kit-kat. their answer is always, better the devil you know, I do not agree with it, and probably none of you do, but as far as corruption goes, a deals a deal ,
lol!! ...so FOR THE RECORD .... Cristina doing business with “el mono” (Chavez) is as bad as US (and allies) doing business with the people I just mentioned., is that correct? Thank You ! that's all I need to hear
Apr 04th, 2011 - 08:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0lol
Apr 04th, 2011 - 09:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It looks like Briton and I can solve the Malvinas - Falklands issue. Are you ready? here is the proposal : You can keep Tevez and I will throw Messi for no additional cost to you and You give me my islands back. what do you think?
Apr 04th, 2011 - 09:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Messi for those ugly.. barren god forsaken islands?? You're nuts
Apr 04th, 2011 - 09:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They can keep'em!!
haha
haha
Apr 04th, 2011 - 09:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Look at the photo above... the one of Felipe and the clown.
Apr 04th, 2011 - 10:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Felipe: 'te voy a dejar el culo hecho un florero'
Clown: 'oh shit'
Martin,“ Look at the photo above... ”Felipe: 'te voy a dejar el culo hecho un florero'
Apr 04th, 2011 - 11:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Clown: 'oh yes'
http://www.usatoday.com/life/2003-11-10-prince-charles_x.htm
Is he related to Dan4??
Apr 04th, 2011 - 11:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 044,
Apr 05th, 2011 - 12:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Look at those dreamy eyes... “ahhh... Felipe, Felipe!!”
More misinterpretation
Apr 05th, 2011 - 12:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0I say basically the world is corrupt in part, and you think we can solve the Falklands crises, if only it was that simple,
Argentina wants what it does not own, so you cannot barter on that item.
as for you two
batman and robin, , and Christina as cat woman , boy what a trio lol
too busy watching TOP GEAR .....Good Night !!
Apr 05th, 2011 - 01:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0i0RXMvzMs&feature=player_embedded#
Apr 05th, 2011 - 02:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0artillero601
Apr 05th, 2011 - 02:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0Martin_Fierro
malen
Marcos Alejandro
Kiwisarg
Gotey
ed
JustinKuntz
Some may ask why these above dislike the British so much,
For their remarks are nothing short of degrading at the best of times
We are not perfect by any standards, but these ,would surly have to be considered for the noble support prize, for no others will you find support for everything that is bad in this world, they twist turn manipulate and try to down beat anyone that opposes them their ideals are more worthy of the street than, of respect or honour, isn’t it a shame then that they have the undying honour to be not only matched by the best, but beaten by the best, some would say their biggest mistake was trying to insult the British,
Rather than the usual riffraff they abuse and mistreat, for one might feel they should be honoured to be in the presence of such sophisticated noble people, that not only lead by respect, but once in a while chastises such rude unrespectful men,, they call themselves Argentine, but most decent Argentineans would not touch them with a barge pole, ,so they cant be the best, they cant beat the best,
they cant even be decent Argentineans, so they reduce themselves to insulting and browbeating others
Then get upset when their insults back fire,. For these above are most certainly rejected by all decent bloggers, I could of course be totally wrong, perhaps we have misunderstood them, perhaps underneath they are decent people, perhaps even decent caring and understanding,
[but then perhaps not,] perhaps just some of them are deluded fools, , and the Falklands
[when hell freezes over ] for ever will they remain British, just a thought .sleep tight ???
@18 Martin_Fierro. yes, really. When do you plan to return the land that your country stole from Paraguay? You do want to do the right thing and return it to its rightful, legitimate owners, do you not?
Apr 05th, 2011 - 10:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0Quite correct, angry Martin. Gibraltar is on Spain's coast. Made a double slip there, must have been tired. However you are very quiet regarding the two cities that Spain occupies on Morrocco's coast. Well?
#50 Not so sure why you include me in that?
Apr 05th, 2011 - 10:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0JustinKuntz hi
Apr 05th, 2011 - 12:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0it was just a comment, and i did say only some of the above were bad,
for if this does not include you, [you dont hate us]
then it will not concern you, it realy is meant for these who hate so much, to you and others who feel a good argument is ok, then it is not intended for you.
its good to comment and good to argue, just not to insult straight as a reply, but thank you for asking,
Actually I don't hate anybody just the Internal Revenue Service. Do I believe that Malvinas belongs to my country, Yes! Do I agree with the 82 conflict, No. Do I believe in any history written by men, Hell no. Did I post any inflamatory stories of war to degrade the enemy, Hell no. I always try to debate the issue in an amicable way, making jokes most of the time so if I offended anybody, I do apologize. Anything else sir???
Apr 05th, 2011 - 01:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It only concerns those who hate , no hatee no problem.
Apr 05th, 2011 - 02:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Anything else sir???
yes please write one hundred times, the falklands are free people who have a right to choose who they wish to be, and as an argentinian I will respect thier choice, thank you, you may now have a cuppa
Can I copy and paste?
Apr 05th, 2011 - 02:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Most of us do at some time or other Artillero601.
Apr 05th, 2011 - 02:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0briton
Apr 05th, 2011 - 03:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You do realise I'm British don't you. I certainly don't hate the British but I will equally criticise British posters for being assholes as much as the Argentine posters who are assholes. I have a low tolerance of assholes or warmongers.
#50 Briton's list , you are right, Kuntz is a spy, not a real British. He works for Gaddaffi and his family came from Spain.
Apr 05th, 2011 - 03:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do we have a double agent now? this shit is getting more interesting every time !!!
Apr 05th, 2011 - 04:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0JustinKunt, sorry i had no idea your were british, like i said we all make mistakes, if im wrong i say im wrong, boy i said soory more times than i would like to, but hey, if im man enough to admit my error, im sure other do the same,
Apr 05th, 2011 - 05:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Rock of Gibraltar is yet another beautiful British possession.
Apr 05th, 2011 - 05:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Long may it remains so.
Tut tut Martin :) I may not be literate in Spanish, but I understand the spoken word quite a bit.
Apr 05th, 2011 - 06:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As far as I could tell (obviously correct me if I'm wrong), the programme is peddling the little known conspiracy theory this side of the South Atlantic that the UK in 2009 intended to annex virtually all of the coast line of Patagonia to get all dem lovely barrels of oil and dem lovely fishies :)
It then went on a bizarre tangent which involved the EU grand conspiracy theory, that the EU intends to use the Falklands and other disputed UK possessions as an entry point into Antartica and a strategic control of eeer ummm the Cape Horn passage? The most infamous and treacherous sea route known to man kind which any sensible commercial sea captain avoids like hell fire?
Obviously the film makers have never heard of the Panama Canal
Of course all this was meant to have happened well over 3 years ago :) have the invasion plans been postponed or something?
And anyway why was Argentina so frightened? You claim the UN is on your side repeatedly, well it is a UN body who approves all these EEZ things innit? Was Argentina worried they might not agree with Argentina's ”we have de sovereignty over territory (we have never controlled or possesd)”, given they also ignored your EEZ claim to 3 times your own landmass, we must conclude that the UN at least in the maritime sense is not filled with idiots.
I notice the video also did not hit upon the other theory, that it was nothing more than an attempt by the UK to challenge Argentina sovereignty claims over the afor mentioned areas, seeing as we got the first punch in it worked, Argentina was wrong footed and looked slightly silly when you bleeted that we were going to claim half of Patagonia, and then tried to treble your landmass haha tuff look tuts ;)
I just watched the video, I did not understand the lingo, but the union jack all over the south Atlantic was very impressive, a conspiracy theory perhaps, but looks ok, pity we cant claim it,
Apr 05th, 2011 - 07:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Perhaps a referendum of that , Patagonia to be British may be considered,
If it is only a conspiracy theory , it’s a good one, ,just a thought.
61 briton (#)
Apr 05th, 2011 - 07:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“ JustinKunt” :-))))))
Marcos Alejandro ,
Apr 05th, 2011 - 07:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 051 lsolde,
Apr 06th, 2011 - 09:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Gibraltar is on Spain's coast. Made a double slip there, must have been tired.”
Nah... you're fine, you're just a liar that's all.
@67 Martin_Fierro, What lie have l told? l admitted l made a mistake.
Apr 06th, 2011 - 10:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0So am l correct in assuming that you have never been mistaken?
You, o paragon of virtue, still have not answered me. Why are you avoiding the questions?
When, if ever, do you intend giving the land back to Paraguay that you stole off them? You country stole it, now is the time to return it. your country would like to steal our land too. You cannot because of our British protection. You hate that, don't you? Well suck it up baby.
Spain does control 2 cities ON Morrocco's coast. Don't you think that it would do their case a lot of good about the“return”of Gibraltar, if they “returned” those 2 cities to Morrocco?
lf you don't agree with this then why not?
And please, no lies now.
68 lsolde,
Apr 06th, 2011 - 12:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina stole land from Paraguay? How exactly did you come to this conclusion liar?
“Don't you think that it would do their case a lot of good about the“return”of Gibraltar, if they “returned” those 2 cities to Morrocco?”
Surely a country still claiming 14 colonies wouldn't have any moral qualms about Spain's claim on Canary Islands, would it?
Between 1811 and 1976 Spain has granted full independence to colonies in over 20 different countries. How many colonies has the UK granted independence to?
Spain can return their two North African colonies if they want but Gibraltar is British and will remain British. And thats all there is to say about that.
Apr 06th, 2011 - 12:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 070 Be serious,
Apr 06th, 2011 - 01:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0About as much of a response as I expected. lol
“How many colonies has the UK granted independence to?”
Apr 06th, 2011 - 01:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The commonwealth lists 54 nations, some have left. 57 give or take a few. About one third of the worlds population.
Because Britain went bankrupt at the end of WW2.
Apr 06th, 2011 - 03:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 072,
Apr 06th, 2011 - 04:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 054 nations, if you say so. (don't think you had that many to being with)
What about the other 14?
Spain only has 1, Canary Islands... I mean since lsolde brought it up, lets really put things into perspective.
....and what have the other 14 and the Canary Islands got in common?
Apr 06th, 2011 - 05:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0c'mon Martin....you know what it is.
74 The British Empire was the finest Empire the World has ever seen and you begrudge us a few islands. Whats the matter with you?
Apr 06th, 2011 - 05:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“don't think you had that many to being with”
Apr 06th, 2011 - 06:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Easily. The commonwealth is a group of nations who were given independence, some didn't join the commonwealth.
“What about the other 14?”
If they want to stay with us they are welcome to.
so basically the concept of conquering people against their will is OK? because you guys are fine?
Apr 06th, 2011 - 06:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 078 Not really. Thats what Argentina wants to do to the Falkland islands.
Apr 06th, 2011 - 07:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Are we playing dumb or my “Google Translate” is not working properly??
Apr 06th, 2011 - 08:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“so basically the concept of conquering people against their will is OK? because you guys are fine?”
Apr 06th, 2011 - 08:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The islanders want to be british, nothing we are doing is against there will.
Be serious is right, what Argentina wants to do is rule these people against there will.
You could ask yourself the same question.
Actually I was referring to the Fine British Empire .....
Apr 06th, 2011 - 09:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 076“The British Empire was the finest Empire the World has ever seen and you begrudge us a few islands Whats the matter with you?”
Apr 06th, 2011 - 11:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Are you serious Be serious?
My Island Home - Chagos Islands
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFLhB_SkMIg&feature=fvwrel
My Island Home - Chagos Islands
Apr 07th, 2011 - 05:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0And that is why the UK should not repeat that injustice. by keeping hold of the falklands,still as the argies say about the dirty war “that was a long time ago”
81,
Apr 07th, 2011 - 06:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0“The islanders want to be british, nothing we are doing is against there will.”
Of course it's not against your will, you're all British, you're all the UK.
There are no “Falklanders” as a distinct separate people, it's all a scheme... a FAKE so you can play the “self-determination” card at the UN.
See? Now we're getting somewhere. ;-)
That must have been some pretty powerful crystal ball technology we had in 1833 Martin to concoct this dastardly scheme to play “self-determination” at an international body 120 years later LOL :)
Apr 07th, 2011 - 07:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0Anyway who oh great and glorious one, gave you the divine right and the last word in deciding peoples right to define themselves? Answer..uuum no one!
lets turn this one on your head:
“There are no Malvinas as an integral part of the Great Glorious Peronist Repbulic of Argentina, it's all a scheme... a FAKE so Argentina can play the territorial integrity at the UN”
You such a muppet, a dog turd has far more visible signs of intelligence than your deluded ravings.....
82 We can debate the rights and wrongs of the British Empire if you want. Big subject but then it was a Big Empire.
Apr 07th, 2011 - 07:29 am - Link - Report abuse 085 So you accept self determination is a card that can be played.
You're right we are getting somewhere.
@Martin_Fierro, don't you just love twisting facts to support your ridiculous statements. Your post just reveals your ignorance, liar.
Apr 07th, 2011 - 09:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Check your own history to see where you expanded into Paraguay after the War of the Triple Alliance. You still haven't answered fool. When does your thieving country intend giving the land back?
l was not talking about the Canary lslands. l said in an earlier post the cities of Ceuta & Melilla which are ON the coast of Morrocco.
l asked you if you thought that if Spain“returned”these cities to Morrocco, would it help in Spain's claim to Gibraltar?
You haven't answered that either.
All you did was to TRY to evade the issue & start bleating on about the former British Empire, now Commonwealth.
But thats typical of you Argentines, if you don't like truth you attack the messenger. You sir, are a cad.
“so basically the concept of conquering people against their will is OK? because you guys are fine?”
Apr 07th, 2011 - 11:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0Do i personally agree with it? No. But i am a product of my time and i've grew up in democracy. European empires were a product of there time; as all the rest before.
so why is it that everytime we have a discussion the “Desert Campaign” and the take over of the Indian territories are brought up to the debate .....
Apr 07th, 2011 - 01:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 090 Don't know. What is the “Desert campaign and the take over of the Indian territories”?
Apr 07th, 2011 - 04:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Because Artillero it shows the irony of the pathetic calls about victimhood over the Falklands that Argentine politicians and nationalists make.
Apr 07th, 2011 - 05:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How can any self respecting politician rant about the theft of a group of islands 400 km from your coast.....from within the confines of land that was also thieved, but on a slightly more epic scale.
It just seems to me double standards......Argentina takes over huge tracks of land.....Muy Bueno! No crime ere guvn'or!
The UK takes a very modest slice of the South Atlantic, and suddenly we're worst than hitler with evil henious designs to subvert Argentina and kill all the penguins :)
@92, Rhaurie, exactly! the problem is that they don't like to lose or admit that they are wrong. We've won some & we've lost some. You can't win all the time, but we've got over it & moved on. They don't seem to be able to. They convinced themselves that Britain was going to be a pushover, much like Mussolini with his“decadent effeminate democracies” in 1940. That we fought back & retook OUR land profoundly shook them. Their government fell as a consequence. We all know this of course, just reiterating!
Apr 08th, 2011 - 08:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0What a country going to waste, it should be the showcase of South America.
Two statements of note always get me chuckling....the first “No Argentine army can lose on Argentine soil”
Apr 08th, 2011 - 01:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0- How wrong did that statement prove to be :)
As the 2 IC of 2 para after Goose Green said: “Despite all the propaganda that this was scared Argentine soil to die for, they just didn't have the fight in them, which makes me think they really did not think this was a cause worth losing their lives over”
the second one: An Intel corps officer when interviewing one of his Argentine counterparts, who gave him an astonishing pre war assessment of the British armed forces: “We we're told time and time again that the British Army is a pathetic spent fighting force, and is rampant with homosexuality, and that Argentine troops were far superior and Macho”....“We also concluded that Britain would not do anything, because of the distances involved and that due to the draw down of forces in the South Atlantic Britain did not really believe the territory to be hers, even up until the point that the task force was sailing of the Malvinas, we still believed this to be an impotent show of force, having based all our assessments on the British reaction form the Goa conflict 20 years earlier”
Need I say more :) If no Argentine army could lose on Argentine soil and the British were inferior soldiers to Argentines, there must have indeed been black magic at work :)
.......hence Martins allegations of the Super genetically modified Dolphin men of the US navy super cobra ninja squad XD LOL!
Yes it did shake them, obviously questions had to be asked, but the most obvious it appears are still ignored......that the UK really does believe this is its sovereign territory and the UK really was looking after its citizens interests.
Of course the simplest explanations are no where near as fun as the mega oil darwin clifton penguin assassin theories that More-crap and the rest of the Goon platoon beleive :)
94 Rhaurie-Se Cagawell “We we're told time and time again that the British Army is a pathetic spent fighting force, and is rampant with homosexuality”
Apr 08th, 2011 - 05:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well, the first part was proven in Iraq and the second one you can see it yourself in the video below, filmed at Malvinas islands.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ljm1oymSv1k
Great video, just goes to show how you can be happy in your work
Apr 08th, 2011 - 05:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0british [gay and happy
argentina, queer and sick ?
yes Mrcos, we've seen this before, but its funny though.
Apr 08th, 2011 - 06:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Trust me ! when you are in a hole for more than 30 days, you start doing weird things to keep yourself entretained ... nothing wrong with that!
Apr 08th, 2011 - 06:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 098 artillero601, Oooohhh, please tell us more, did you post your video in YouTube as well? I am sure Briton and Isolde will love to watch it :-)))
Apr 08th, 2011 - 08:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0lol!!
Apr 09th, 2011 - 05:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0TWIMC
Apr 09th, 2011 - 08:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0Isn't “that” one of the main reasons people choose a military career in the first place?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_the_militaries_of_ancient_Greece
@101 ....I don't think so Mr Think. Some countries allow homosexuals to serve , some don't. In my times (in Argentina) , they were not allowed, now ? I don't know what the policy is. Here in the US, people want to revoke the ” Don't ask, don't tell policy ....will see what happens. if you want to talk about being bisexual in Ancient times, that's a different subject all together
Apr 09th, 2011 - 01:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just pulling your “Macho” leg, Artillero…
Apr 09th, 2011 - 02:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How was that little song?
…..Un canto de honda emoción
a la Patria, de acento viril ……. :-)
jajajaja!!!! I recommend the following songs ...“El Tala” (I have it as my ring tone), Gral Belgrano, Avenida de la Camelias “ and the one I like the most ” La Marcha Libertadora” !!!!!!!!!!!!! you are making me cry Mr Think!!
Apr 09th, 2011 - 02:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What a crappy selection of stuffy military marches!
Apr 09th, 2011 - 04:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Here is something better for you….
Women, Weapons and Values………….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSRVtlTwFs8
Here is another one
Apr 09th, 2011 - 05:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxtwzU0-wPM&feature=related
But I had to admit I like also these two as well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxtwzU0-wPM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxtwzU0-wPM&feature=related
@105 crappy selection???????????
Apr 09th, 2011 - 10:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@106 estamos hablando de marchas miltares y no de canciones marxistas leninistas , para propaganda zurda mejor no opino porque no me quiero calentar .....se entiende?
@105Think, looks like it might be an interesting film. l'll try to get it Cher Think.
Apr 10th, 2011 - 06:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0@106 & @ 105 a ver Marcos si aprendes algo y no me digas que este video no te hace poner la piel de gallina ....sino es que no sos Argentino
Apr 10th, 2011 - 02:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hAVdqhIIu0&feature=related
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