MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
Unasur letter supporting Argentina’s Malvinas claims delivered to Ban Ki-moon
Foreign Affairs minister Hector Timerman met Wednesday with United Nations Secretary General Ban Ki-moon and reiterated Argentina’s sovereignty claim over the Falklands/Malvinas and other South Atlantic Islands this time reinforced with a formal request from the Union of South American Nations, Unasur leaders in support of Argentina’s “historic and legitimate rights”. Read full article
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Apr 07th, 2011 - 08:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0Another “little nail” in Great Britain's diplomatic coffin in the South-Atlantic.
mind your thumb :-)
Apr 07th, 2011 - 09:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0Of course ,Everyone can write extraordinary- admireable comments here about all kinds of subjects also in very detailed..how? just simple !
Apr 07th, 2011 - 09:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0First you have a computer ,already you have , you can come to all
the World's details easily..too many blogs, bloggers, sites , documents,
wikileaks, wikipedia ,articles etc etc. you would copy their noteworthy
related sentences and transfer to your comments.No need to be wiseman.
Doubtless , You must start to Think what you are going to write,
Think again is it right or wrong...Think to decide write or not write...
TWIMC
Apr 07th, 2011 - 09:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0The venue whereby sovereignty disputes may be settled in a binding legal judgement is the International Court of Justice. A place where Argentina will never go as:
A) The claim that Spain transferred sovereignty is untrue.
B) The claim that Argentina sent Jewett to take possession is untrue.
C) The claim that Argentina established effective control is untrue
D) The claim that Britain expelled an Argentine population is untrue.
E) The claim that Argentina has continously protested is untrue.
And a couple of doozies:
Argentina relinquished all claims when it signed the Convention of Settlement in 1850.
Argentina published maps recognising the Falklands as British territory, the same maps that recognised Chilean sovereignty over the Beagle Islands.
So if I were Ban Ki-moon, my reply would be simply
“Take it to the ICJ, why are you bugging me”.
But we all know why Argentina will never do that, it will lose, and we all know why Argentina makes these claims. Nothing to do with their (il)legitimacy but for domestic reasons to create something to “unite the people”. As Argentina has done for its entire history.
The problems of its own making are always blamed on outsiders.
Thinks empty coffin and Argentina have something in common. Empty vessels make the most noise.
Apr 07th, 2011 - 10:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0More sad letters and more coffins from the Sulky Patagonian wasteland.
Apr 07th, 2011 - 11:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0Meanwhile: More Succulent Fish, More Happy Cruise Ships and More Black Treacly Oil Prospects from the beautiful and industrious Falkland Islands.
“Be serious” @6, you should immediately change your nickname then!
Apr 07th, 2011 - 11:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0This is the exact same story that was posted a week back..
Apr 07th, 2011 - 11:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0This coffin of Thinks is full of nails by now, funny how nothing has changed.
Beef/
Apr 07th, 2011 - 01:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Le Think can not hear you beccouse he is very busy, wistful
and speaks by himself guy here !
The coffins that Twinky needs to be concerned with are the 237 that contain Argentine corpses. Plus the big metal one in the South Atlantic.
Apr 07th, 2011 - 01:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#10/ is the evidence of #9/ !
Apr 07th, 2011 - 01:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yul @ 9. Lost in translation i think. Whatever you mean i am sure you wrote it with the best of intentions.
Apr 07th, 2011 - 01:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Beef/
Apr 07th, 2011 - 02:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When you catch up the Think you would ask somethings to him...
for example :
Do you still think ,the Aussies are spot on and mainly favored
Australia adobting US model ?....
(13) yul
Apr 07th, 2011 - 02:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The ultimate answer is……................................. 42
(Google it :-)
#6 Justin - You wrote (for domestic reasons to create something to “unite the people”.) In this case it is more likely “for personal reasons to help her re-election drive this year.”
Apr 07th, 2011 - 02:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0??
Apr 07th, 2011 - 02:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Think/
Apr 07th, 2011 - 02:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We know that the Capitalism was invented by British & Dutch
not Italians ! don't say it otherwise please !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hp_0D143ZEw
Apr 07th, 2011 - 03:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 016 Forty two - The number of laws in the game of cricket, much loved by the author of “Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy”. Read it, its fun.
Apr 07th, 2011 - 04:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0BTW another Great Briton.
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Apr 07th, 2011 - 05:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You forgot few letters in your name..
You don't forget two log in -accounts are enough,no need more..
good luck .....
by the way , don't gamble with-- artillero601-- Ok !
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I am zero in sport subjects .
I was there when they gave that letter to Ban Ki-moon, It was so funny, he took it of the delegation and politely smiled, they had a few words together and when the Argentines left the room, he turned to his aids with a bemused look on his face and asked them who the hell were those people? They just shrugged there shoulders and said, well you know what they' are like, we had to let them in to give you that letter or we would never have got rid of them.
Apr 07th, 2011 - 05:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ban Ki-moon took a peek at the letter again and said, I know where Argentina is, But where are the Malvinas, when they told him they were the Falklands, he nearly fainted, when he gathered himself together he asked for a trash can where the letter landed. Then he went to dinner where he had a good dinner with real diplomats with real problems.
He then put his hand in his jacket pocket to pay for the dinner and came out with a fist full of $, where has that lot come from he said, with raised eyebrows his aids said those dam Argentines they have done it again, we will give the money back tomorrow boss.
Britishbulldog:
Apr 07th, 2011 - 06:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I followed some time your profile is really unfortunate comment, your true personality shines through, are worthy of pity. I do remember throwing coins Judas before committing suicide. You have no respect or dignity with British countrymen who fight for justice and a better world. I am nobody to give you advice but I suggest you do a good examination of your conscience. God help you.
@20 don't gamble with-- artillero601-- Ok !... wtf?
Apr 07th, 2011 - 06:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 021,
Apr 07th, 2011 - 08:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Check yourself in at the nearest mental hospital, you've got a severe problem buddy...
The islas Malvinas doesn't celebrate, the british illegal aliens in the island celebrate pirat day, that will end, soon after Argentina closes and expropiates UK embassy in Bs As and every britsih firm including their allyes on Argentina's main land, under the banner national security, they have my support.
Apr 07th, 2011 - 10:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#21
Apr 07th, 2011 - 11:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Best comment. . . . . . . Nothing like a good spoof
Geoff.
A good spoof, it had that ring of believability about it.
Apr 07th, 2011 - 11:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0don't you feel like there is going to be a war? hmmmm
Apr 08th, 2011 - 01:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0@Xbarilox - Not much point in war though, as we all know the outcome will be the same as it was 1982. :)
Apr 08th, 2011 - 02:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0@ 29 Would you bet your woman's holes?
Apr 08th, 2011 - 02:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0Xbarilox #30 your comment is entirely inappropriate not to mention sexually offensive.
Apr 08th, 2011 - 03:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0No i would never make bets that involve gambling on an other persons body assets/parts both sexual or non sexual, as doing so is immoral and inhumane. Would i bet my own arsehole on it, yeah i would and i have no intention of having male on male sex, or in the event your female, then i have no intention of betting with my penius or having sex with you either - Though regardless of the bet, i may reconsider if your one hell of a beutiful lady :). In anycase, am pretty confident the UK will not lose in a future war over the falklands to Argentina.
@ 31
Apr 08th, 2011 - 04:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Would i bet my own arsehole on it, yeah i would” I didn't want to know that much, but don't be too anxious, just relax and wait, cuz I'm sure there's something going on. Can't you feel it? Would you mind if the islanders suffer or not? I wouldn't mind some argentines suffering if you ask me, I think sometimes that's the only way, but what do you think about some islanders being roasted by the heat of explosions? Can you imagine Isolde's roasted body? haha
@32 - I don't think even argentina would be stupid enough to deliberately kill civilian islanders doing so would be a war crime, and may likely lead to the UK's NATO allies joining the UK in any war against argentina. Though saying that, if the argentina government is half as stupid (twitterman as an example) as some of the argentine idiots we see posting on here, then i wouldn't be surprised if the did attack civilians.
Apr 08th, 2011 - 07:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0If Argentina launched at other invasion of the islands then the UK will defend them, if argentina attack (military) and/or murder civilians, then we will likely not only repel the argentine invasion, but also this time take the war to argentina itself (possible invade argentina not just bomb it into submission) and bring the people responsible for such war crimes against the islanders to justice in the international court. In fact i believe invading argentina if, and only if argentina invaded/attacked the islands again. Would be in the best interest of the argentine people, as well as the interests of the islanders. Think about it, britain could bring a stable economy, better infastructure and education (re-education for the brainwashed idiots we see on here) which would result in higher standards of living for all, and better higher paid jobs, once we have fixed the broken argentina economy. Within 10 years the argentine people will no longer see us as their enemy but as the savouirs from repression, curruption and bonified idiots calling themselves politicians (such as twitterman and CFK and her cronies).
With the gap in technology now it would be a very one sided encounter. They would first have to throw everything they had at the islands and just getting there would cost many lives. Then on the ground they would not only have to put up with our better trained troops but also superior equipment; Javelins, Apaches and challengers. Theres no way they would be able to take MPA in under 24 hours and by then reinforcements would be arriving. It's just not really possible with what they have. But people like xbarilox can always dream.
Apr 08th, 2011 - 09:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0@33Teaboy, you're too advanced for them.l've half-heartedly suggested more or less the same thing, but no takers so far. l'm sure we could get the country on its feet(with a commission of...say, 10%!).
Apr 08th, 2011 - 09:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0@32Xbox, not much of me to roast, niño. You would have to catch me first.
22 Raul (#)----24 Martin_Fierro.
Apr 08th, 2011 - 03:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Seems I hit a raw nerve, well I do aim to please, not you pair of course. Lets face it Argentina is one of the most corrupt countries in the world, and it must be so galling to you all to be so little respected by all on the world stage.
Probably if Argentina was not so corrupt the Government would not have had to ask for help from the IMF.
And even the ordinary working class people are corrupt, Pickets’ leader demanding extortion sum from Clarin captured on video. So my observation of Argentina's diplomats bribing can be seen as quite real.
You really are quite a dishonest nation that will stoop to even greater deprivation to get what you want. Hence the lying letter to Ban Ki-moon who probably did sigh with exasperation at your lying cheek. In private of course, Ban Ki-moon is a honorable person with impeccable manners who would not dream of insulting another nation even when it lies through its back teeth. Perhaps your country's leaders could take a leaf out of his book and start to give other nations respect, then and only then will you get respect back from people like me. But I wont hold my breath on getting respect, why should you change a habit of a life time.
we will not kill civilians mostlikely UK will sink the ship in route to UK with all ilegal aliens on board they might even die in the cold waters do to UK stuborness, yes we can have it your way but I am sure the illegal aliens will not like it, I suguest we settle it at a table like the UN asked us, NO ? I read about a boat in turkey full of jews who almost died the same way, history repeats itself.
Apr 08th, 2011 - 03:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0NEVER FORGET.
Pirat your talking a load of gibberish again, We offered to take the matter to the ICJ in the past, argentina refused. The UN can not decide on whos right and whos wrong, as they must uphold the islanders right to self determination and/or the judgement of the ICJ as per the UN charter for which the UN was founded upon, so you lot going crying like babies to the UN won't do shit, and is more likely that the UN will forward the matter to the ICJ only for argentina to refuse to take it to the ICJ again. Why? well because they know their claim is full of holes and they would not stand a chance of proving their claim over the islands at the ICJ.
Apr 08th, 2011 - 03:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And another thing - Why on earth would the UK sink ships carrying falkland islanders, that statement alone along with must of your post is simply obsurd.
@ 38 “we offered” you offered? You offered what? You're not British, you can't offer anything.
Apr 08th, 2011 - 04:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“they would not stand a chance of proving their claim over the islands at the ICJ.” We know that already, because the current composition of the ICJ, except for Brasil, is a place where only thieves can win. Let's wait for a new ICJ with latinoamericanos, not only Brasil (Mexico doesn't count as latinoamericano cuz they are a hoe for the USA) and we'll go to the ICJ and see who will win.
“Why on earth would the UK sink ships carrying falkland islanders, that statement alone along with must of your post is simply obsurd.” Simply because they don't want the islanders making it to Britain, or do you think they say they want to protect las Islas Malvinas because they love the islanders? haha
36 Britishbulldog (#)
Apr 08th, 2011 - 04:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Maybe the leaders of your country could take a leaf from his book and start giving respect to other nations, then and only then will take you back the respect of people like me”
You did not understand anything. With respect I say you have the speech and language of the “guardians of the temple” (People As One) and that comes through in your mind and do not register. You deal with many prejudices and adjectives in your arguments.
With all humility I tell you that you have enough culture to realize it.
“Even ordinary working class people are corrupt, leading pickets” very demanding extortion Clarín captured on video. So my observation of diplomats from Argentina, bribery can be seen as very real. “
Generalize, too. See too traditional television and take it as dogma. Do not be surprised, in your country also go worse, as the humanitarian bombing in Libya.
”But I will not hold your breath on getting respect, why should I change a habit of a lifetime?”
Do not get angry but you wonder Do you see that the problems of others can be yours? I am nobody to tell you, but did you ever think about changing your habits? It's great to see things from other planes and perspectives.
#38 the british illegal aliens have self determination, they have determined all by themselves they are all british and I agree, they can go back home as soon as possible, that's the end of that and if they insist in having selfdetermination we Argentines want selfdetermination without british occupation maybe the decolonization commitee can deside when will the 1807 british occupation of Argentina will end, we want to be free of occupation or are we not white enought yet ?? oviouly you didn't understan that if british illegal aliens refuse to get visa's they will be deported like thier cousins in USA do to mexicans and as UK does to Romanians, the dubble standards is ovious and we should put an end to it by putting all this illegal aliens in a boat and back to their mother land, my intentions is to send them back home but they can be sunk on the way, become collateral damage and Malvinas Argenina will once again be free of any pest, I hope the illegal aliens are all good swimers UK is far, one way or another we will get Islas Malvinas back I think we should do it UN's way rather then UK's we WOULDN'T want britards to die in the ocean, or do we ?? LOL
Apr 08th, 2011 - 05:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0NEVER FORGET.
@41, we haven't forgotten either,“I”. And you are still wasted space.
Apr 08th, 2011 - 06:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Are you legally in Canada? Why don't you return home? Your motherland needs talent like yours. Why you might even meet up with Xbox. l'm sure you two would have lots to talk about.
#42 I am in my motherland, I am an American from the south, I might even consider ckicking white Canadians out if they keep pesting me, fortunatelly for europids in America they stoped pesting me otherways I was going to start sending them to the GOD's without a day in court, I am sure they wouldn't like that, There is a good medicine to cure british and pirats both at the same time, only a single doze is needed, home made remedies for brits. warning the medicine might cause light headed, neck pain and/or headaches, if you experience any of this sign don't be alarmed it's normal, to find out about it check the link bellow..
Apr 08th, 2011 - 07:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6190477/ns/world_news-mideast/n_africa/
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Apr 08th, 2011 - 08:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That's quite frankly beyond sick.
Apr 08th, 2011 - 09:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Zethee you reported my comment hahaha what a loser hahaha
Apr 08th, 2011 - 11:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm a looser. I not the one talking about autopsying lsolde, what's wrong with you?
Apr 09th, 2011 - 12:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0@ 47 man, I laughed my socks off “autopsying Isolde” lol that's a good one haha
Apr 09th, 2011 - 01:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0@48Xbox, you wouldn't stand a chance. Lets see you outrun a 7.62mm.
Apr 09th, 2011 - 07:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0l'm a pretty good shot too.“if hes facing you aim for the belt buckle, if hes running away aim for his lower back”-golden advice from my instructor.
Not going to tell you where l learned to shoot though as that would set the unwashed off on another tangent.!!
Lets just say that they had more guts than you keyboard warriors.
(49) Isolde
Apr 09th, 2011 - 10:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0You say that you:
”Aim for his lower back!….”
”Aim for the belt buckle!...”
Aim for ”the unwashed?...”
No wonder the boys are crazy about you..
You keep talking ”dirty” to them :-)
@ 49 woman, you're so fine haha “the unwashed” funniest comment ever lmao your instructor knows what he's talking about, follow his teachings lol
Apr 09th, 2011 - 03:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0lsolde: Falklands defence training?
Apr 09th, 2011 - 05:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not much info about them, is it primarily training with the UK forces or independant/based on it?
Also, is it based within MPA or in stanley? Coming to visit hopfully end of year but always curious.
DON'T TELL HIM............. PIKE!
Apr 09th, 2011 - 07:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0:-))))))))))))))))))))))
@52Zethee, no.not Falklands(but our instructor was ex-British Army)
Apr 10th, 2011 - 06:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0@50Think, l didn't say “aim for the unwashed”.(its a pun, you prob wouldn't understand & l couldn't be bothered to explain it).
(54) Cher Isolde
Apr 10th, 2011 - 08:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0You say:
”Think, l didn't say “aim for the unwashed? (its a pun, you prob wouldn't understand & l couldn't be bothered to explain it)”
I say:
I know…..........That’s why I included a ”Question Mark”…. .....I was just pulling your pretty leg, baby.
I assumed you where referring to the ”Unwashed and Uneducated”
Curiously that topic has been mentioned by Geoff and me a while ago!
http://en.mercopress.com/2011/03/21/obama-says-brazil-s-transition-to-democracy-an-example-for-the-arab-world /Posts No. 6 and 8
Anyhow………..
Thank you for confirming what l suspected. You know what I mean!
A misandrist among Anglo hemba-women in an isolated cold Island, you must really be in your element.
;-)
@55 Cher Think,
Apr 10th, 2011 - 10:25 am - Link - Report abuse 01) l am not a misandrist, far from it! The opposite is true. However l do not like men who mistreat women physically or mentally. l consider such men to be cowards. Would they treat a big strong man the same way? lf not, why not? Because they are afraid of a beating?
2) What is/are hemba?
3) The lslands are not cold to me & not too isolated. lf you think they are then why do you want them, knowing of course that they are not yours?
4) l am in my element wherever l go.
5) The unwashed & uneducated was refering to Argentine lnvaders( l'm not going to tell you where l learned to shoot because that would start you lot off on a new subject).
(56) Cher Isolde
Apr 10th, 2011 - 10:59 am - Link - Report abuse 01) You have made this point abundantly clear in various occasions! What has it to do with me, if I may ask?
2) Oooops. Did I type ”hemba?”... I meant ”hembra” is kind of a........ ”lesser abled Macho”.
3) Them Islands ARE cold and isolated……….................. Just MY kind of place.
4) Me too............, kind and adaptive by nature :-)
5) Another of your secrets struggling to surface…. You may keep it.… Women are usually crappy MarksMEN anyhow………………
Ah, Hembra - with all the lesbian allusions . . . .
Apr 10th, 2011 - 11:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0Hannah Wilke and Louise Fishman, 1970-1973.(Critical essay)
I knew you had misspelt but thought you meant Himba .
. . . which took me back to my very early adolescence and The National Geographic Magazine (as it was called then) - all those greased and clayed bronzed-breasted 'nubiles'.
In the days when the NGM was on the bottom shelf and all others of interest were out of reach.
. . . smiles of faded memories ;-)
Check out the Amazons; - nothing to do with S.A., but going a-mazos certainly helps them with their markspersonship.
@57 Ah Thinkus,thou art devious
Apr 10th, 2011 - 01:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 01) Well you brought it up.First you tell me l am a misandrist, then when l refute this, you say l've made it abundantly clear that l'm not. What are you trying to say? Are you confused, old timer? l am.
2,3&4) ok.
5) Admit it, you'd love to know! but l'm very good at keeping secrets.
pop onto my island uninvited & you'll see how good a marksman l am!
Let’s clarify Cher Isolde
Apr 10th, 2011 - 01:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 01) I used some some innuendo…… but I was mostly referring to your insistence on mentioning ”Men who mistreat women physically or mentally”.…. I very much doubt that a priviledged Anglo Alfafemale as you ever has experienced that sort, except through a Betty Mahmoody kind of pamphlet.
5) My Island? Hmmmm…… Small, medium or large one?
And yes……….. I’m eager to hear a well-to-do lady’s stories about their experiences with their shooting, golf or tennis instructors :-)
The British Isles - says it all really. Each Isle loved equally and protected just as fiercely.
Apr 10th, 2011 - 04:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hate freaks who mistreat women including supercilious old goats squatting in occupied Patagonia.
Rule Britannia.
again mr.twitterman tries to influende he UN,doesnt he know,probably he will,that the westen nations dont take argentina seriously ,they only consider serious nations Brazil,Chile and maybe Uruguay.That why many argies when they travel to europe or USA ,use a community passport ,as many have european grandfathers,in order not to have trouble with the inmigration if they show an argy pass
Apr 11th, 2011 - 12:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0Tea Boy your deluded I admire your foolishness to believe that the Britts would be so lucky again, Argentina's advantage lays in its mistakes it made last time, but they won't be sending there conscripts any longer and a bunch of commandos, instead they will send there entire Special forces units and some other sectors of the Armed Forces that your little head wouldn't know about, you parasite your brain must be the size of a walnut.
Apr 11th, 2011 - 09:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Tea Boy your deluded I admire your foolishness to believe that the Britts would be so lucky again, Argentina's advantage lays in its mistakes it made last time, but they won't be sending there conscripts any longer and a bunch of commandos, instead they will send there entire Special forces units and some other sectors of the Armed Forces that your little head wouldn't know about, you parasite your brain must be the size of a walnut.
Apr 12th, 2011 - 02:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0This time will do it better: Tigre: We will go to london and finish them for good.Anyway,they have nothing valuable there,and uselles people like ladybug, typhoon,etc,very little resources,anyway they are finish!
“instead they will send there entire Special forces units and some other sectors of the Armed Forces”
Apr 12th, 2011 - 03:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0And im sure it would be a lovely trip for them but they would be going back to Argentina.
will send there entire Special forces units and some other sectors of the Armed Forces that your little head wouldn't know about,
Apr 12th, 2011 - 07:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0More like special needs if Tte Estevez is anything to go by
@#63 + #64
Apr 12th, 2011 - 11:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0LMFAO - Your saying am deluded. Well i got news for you, your special forces are like Regular soldiers compared to the SBS and SAS, you need ships to get to the Falklands, which you do not have - So just how deluded do you think you guys sound when your on about invading the UK LOL. On top of that you have virtually no Ammo to even fight a war, you have no Air force as your pilots haven enough flying hours in, and your best naval ship is at the bottom of the Atlantic, where its been since 1982. So what you going to do, row to Britain and the islands in rubber dingys? shoot at us with pea shooters and paint ball guns, our air pistols,rifles. What about grenades, yeah plenty of stones in Argentina to fill your dingy's with.
By the way, we also have secret military projects and squads that you pea brains do not know about too. So send your so not so special ammo less forces, if you dare. You learnt from your mistake last time you say, well if that were true you'd know the islands will never be yours - EVER. So you wouldn't yet again be threatening to make the same mistake again now.
Your the deluded ones, not me.
A special forces team is too expensive for a nation with such a small budget. Calling them special forces doesn't automaticly put them on par with the Seals or SBS.
Apr 12th, 2011 - 01:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Doubt if they would be as well trained as a normal RM.
Not sure how getting Ban-ki Moon involved is gonna help. He doesn't control the UN he's just the secretary-general. He is also strongly criticised by parts of the UN such as United Nations Office of Internal Oversight Services as he seems to be pushing the UN further and further towards complete irrelevance. So I'm not sure that even if he suddenly declared support for the Argentine Malvinas claim he would really be noticed. Why not just go to the International Court of Justice?
Apr 12th, 2011 - 05:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0After the Islas Malvinas conflict The Argentine Military and Naval forces created several Special armed forces Battalions both Naval, Air and amphibious task forces these aspects are facts so TeaBoy keep playing your gameboy and persevere in talking crap out of that mouth of yours, I pity you your polluting the air with that tongue of yours.
Apr 12th, 2011 - 05:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Britt Air craft carrier wont be ready to 2015 also the jet fighters for that air craft carrier wont be ready for another few years LOL what a joke?
64 Tte Estevez Viva La Patria hermano los ingleses se van a cagar. : )
They may have created “special” groups. Doesn't automaticly make them any good. Like it has already been stated; Keeping a good special forces group requires more money than your budget has.
Apr 12th, 2011 - 05:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't need an aircraft carrier to keep you guys off the islands. You could not reach the islands currently. It would not be possible except for landing special forces by subs. 150 of your special forces aren't going to take a base of 1500 men in under 24 hours. Not going to happen. Our normal troops likely have a higher degree of training than your special forces anyway.
The Britt Air craft carrier wont be ready to 2015 also the jet fighters for that air craft carrier wont be ready for another few years
Apr 12th, 2011 - 05:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAF_Mount_Pleasant
Not going to happen ? lets hope not Britain was lucky last time and times have changed since then? and that number forecast is a sheer fantasy you came up with, lets hope the Brits don't name one of their ships INVINCIBLE again LOL nothing remains Invincible for long.
Apr 12th, 2011 - 06:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@#73 - Well it lived up to its name didn't it? As the invincible was never sunk!
Apr 12th, 2011 - 07:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Also out military is ranked 5th in the world; yours is 1 place behind the Philippines in 33rd spot - Says it all doesn't it! Also i do not see how we were lucky in 1982, more like better trained, better soldiers, and a hell of a lot more guts then you lot. As for gameboy, that's so outdated.
Your an idiot Tigre, if you think you can beat us then bring it on, it would be a pleasure to give you lot yet another arse kicking.
As for not having a carrier till 2015, well we have mount pleasant, and the Ascension islands where troops can be transported to reinforce mount pleasant and bomber jets can come bomb your arse, remember the VULCAN. We have the capability to refuel jets on route within hours of your attack on Mount Pleasant will be reinforced with men, Armour and fighter jets. Oh and within 3-4 years we will have this unmanned transcontinental stealth fighter bomber jet. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1294037/Taranis-The-143million-unmanned-stealth-jet-hit-targets-continent.html - Compare that to your A-4AR FightingHawks (30 in all) the main plane in your air force.
Your such a dreamer Tigre, i on the other hand say it how it actually is.
By the way, we also have secret military projects and squads that you pea brains do not know about too. So send your so not so special ammo less forces, if you dare. You learnt from your mistake last time you say, well if that were true you'd know the islands will never be yours - EVER. So you wouldn't yet again be threatening to make the same mistake again now.
Apr 12th, 2011 - 09:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0AHAHAHAHAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
If you survive,Mateboy!
The way the thing are going,you will be lucky if they do not nuke you in pieces,considering is a brit military base.
Probably they will nuke uk,then the bases around them,like christchurch,St Helena,asencion,Diego Garcia..
No chance you will survive,so stay out of my sigth!
Looser!
@ 75 - Lol Really, and just who exactly is going to Nuke us BRITS eh Tevez, surely not poor old Argentina who do not have any NUKES?
Apr 12th, 2011 - 09:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do your self a favor Estevez - go see a shrink; or better still disappear.
74 Teaboy2 “ remember the VULCAN”
Apr 13th, 2011 - 12:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, useless British Bomber that failed to destroy the runways in Stanley.
“Yes, useless British Bomber that failed to destroy the runways in Stanley.”
Apr 13th, 2011 - 02:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0It hit the runway and stopped you from using fast jets from the runway even after it was fixed and that allowed us to easier destroy your aircraft who had to come from the mainland. Pretty successful.
It hit the runway and stopped you from using fast jets from the runway even after it was fixed and that allowed us to easier destroy your aircraft who had to come from the mainland. Pretty successful.
Apr 13th, 2011 - 04:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0Really,you are like mateboy.They never enlarged the runway.There as no intention,because they believed in a diplo solution.The brits did not know the hercules were suppliying the Island until the war ended.You did not know that?
Is all in the US navy report,Admiral Trent..
Yes Mateboy,they are going to nuke,and as always God is Argentinian.All the enemies,and the people you have trashed over the centuries,they will come back and pull you down.
Bye bye,england.......
“The raids did minimal damage to the runway and damage to radars was quickly repaired”
Apr 13th, 2011 - 04:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0“A single crater was produced on the runway, rendering it impossible for the airfield to be used by fast jets.[9] Argentine ground crew repaired the runway[10] within twenty-four hours,[11] but only to a level of quality suitable for the C-130 Hercules and Aermacchi MB-339 jets.[1
Many sources claim that fake craters confounded British damage assessment”
Jets took off from their mainland bases and planes took off from Stanley until the last day of the war.
Yes, useless British Bomber that failed to destroy the runways in Stanley, one was forced to land in Brazil and was impounded until the 11th June following damage to its refuelling probe.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Black_Buck
Good to see Tte Estevez has returned, obviously he has been away obtaining a few more degrees so he can dazzle us all with his non-informative knowledge. He has also brought a friend from his indoctrination schooling, in the form of a loud mouth child with no factual bearing on any reality.
Apr 13th, 2011 - 04:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0So, according to the delusional masses, Argentina now has the most up-to-date, specially trained, top secret, unbeatable military force in the world, and could wipe Britain out in no time at all???
lol, yeah ok, the world is flat, the sun orbits the earth, laddiddaddidda.....
Your medication isn't working, no matter what way you look at it, Argentina could not possibly defeat Britains military force, who have experienced front line action for many decades. Who also have the greater weapons capabilities, and technologies.
So, if you wish to put your theories to the test, then by all means try it, but i warn you, that you will fail, horribly.
“Yes, useless British Bomber that failed to destroy the runways in Stanley
Apr 13th, 2011 - 06:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0But it sure made a mess of the argies pants when they shit themselves,it also was a wake up call to the argies who still thought the UK wasnt going to take the Falklands back
@#80 Lol Marcus - Tut tut, You should know by now that posting links to wiki pages, that you Argentinians have edited and re-edited to suit your side of the argument doesn't fool us, nor does the wiki pages Argentine editors false facts i.e out of 21 1,000lbs bombs dropped hit the runway, i find it highly unlikely that only 1 hit the runway and it was repaired in such a short amount of time. Especially when you can clearly see at least 4 creators (black dots) on the runway area 2 of which are directly on the runway itself in the photo on this webpage - http://www.britains-smallwars.com/Falklands/vulcan.htm link to image itself - http://www.britains-smallwars.com/Falklands/vulcan.htm
Apr 13th, 2011 - 07:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0As for hercules landing their, well the whole mission was to stop you using the airfield as a launch sit for your jet fighters, we didn't care about the hercules transports as they where no threat to us neither was the cargo of outdated equipment that they were supplying. Also, the Hercules would have been easy targets for our harriers. 1 of which was actually shot down by a harrier.
Its funny how you and Estevez think having Hercules land at Stanley makes the Vulcan missions unsuccessful when their objective was to prevent the runway being used by your fighter jets, therefore making it successful regardless of the Hercules still being able to land.
@Estevez - Again - How are you Argentinians going to nuke us when you have NO nuclear weapons?
Why do you keep calling me “Mateboy”; is it suppose to be a funny? As i do not see how such a pathetic attempt as “Mateboy” is anything like a humorous name. Or is i just an example of your poor education and actually meant to be “matey boy”. though either way, here is an example of what is a humorous name “twilight Estevez” after all with the fantasy claims of Argentinian nukes and military capable of beating us Brits, its clear you come from the realms of the twilight zone. our even better one “Twit Estevez” - You two i just so funny LOL
During the Falklands War, Argentina used their C-130s in their primary role, as transports, as well as KC-130s as tankers, but also used the plane as an improvised reconnaissance and bomber aircraft
Apr 13th, 2011 - 12:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0they rolled bombs out the back, needs must when half your airforce is shot out of the sky
80 Marcos Alejandro:
Apr 13th, 2011 - 04:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The bombs were never intended to destory the entire runway. British airforce doctrine states that destroying a runway completely is a waste of time because it can be repaired for slow planes. But one or two(four in this case) bombs at an angle can damage a strip and even after repairs can stop fast jets from taking off from the airport(And having fast jets on the islands would have annoyed the carrier to no end). That was the entire point of the bombs, to stop you from having fast jets on the islands so our carrier could come in range of the islands. So yes, they were successful and you are as usual, wrong.
Marcos and others- as Zethee says correctly. That bombing mission was one of 3 critical events that turned the events in favour of UK winning.
Apr 13th, 2011 - 08:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Those bombs had 2 instant results:
ONE- removed the refuelling possibility of Stanley for your fast jets- this allowed the British carriers to come within range of the Islands to launch harrier strikes and Helicopter missions etc.
TWO- Arg realised that if the UK can bomb Stanley Airport- then they can easily bomb the Casa Rosada, Belgrano naval base etc etc! Result- Arg Air Force frontline interceptor fighters - the Mirages that could have perhaps matched the Harriers in air combat - were withdrawn from the south to guard against possible attacks on the capital etc.
This was a great swing of the odds in favour of the Harriers to thus start to achieve Air Superiority overall in the conflict zone.
The other 2 key moments were:
Sinking of the Belgrano- your Navy realised they had no defence against nuvclear powered submarines - so all major ships withdrew to mainland territorial waters.
The capture of GooseGreen by a force inferior in numbers over a superior number force that had been dug in and prepared for several weeks - that was a bodyblow to the morale of Arg ground forces.
By that day Arg had effectively LOST - all that was left was to decide how many more young lives were to be lost on both sides before the besotted generalissimos saw sense.
People are making a big deal about carriers which admittedly UK shouldn't lose but just recently UK mounted airstrikes on Libya direct from UK using air to air refueling. It would be a push but I think if needed UK could send missions Directly from UK to Argentina if we needed to. Argentina are making so much about ships which would be important but what they don't realise is the RAF would play a much bigger role in any new war they chose to start. Also as has been proved by HMS Triumph again in libya the royal navy now has Land attack missiles on it's submarines the falklands are safe.
Apr 13th, 2011 - 09:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Now I see from where Brutish get their facts:
Apr 13th, 2011 - 09:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvn85FxceRg
Idiot Marcos - I suppose that game is where the MOD Photograph i linked to came from to was it? If you say yes, then your a complete fool, totally brainwashed into believing your governments lies that even when the rest of the world tells you the truth, your still blind to the truth.
Apr 13th, 2011 - 10:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 087 Charle:
Apr 14th, 2011 - 12:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yes except that the mission would take about 24 hours. A carrier sitting 100 miles off the coast can give air support to troops in under 20 mins. The difference between having a carrier and long range missions is HUGE.
Also, not many of these missions can be done because they all require several tankers each to refuel the jet. And another thing is the pilot is less likely to make mistakes on a 20 min flight than a 24 hour one.
Zethee I did actually know that I just wanted to make a point that argentina is vulnerable that's all. Also unless argentina was very lucky there'd be no need for carriers this time because it's doubtful Argies would successfully invade the islands.
Apr 14th, 2011 - 01:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0Aye i don't think for a second it's possible.
Apr 14th, 2011 - 01:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0That would require landing a force large enough to take the 1500 people at the base. Not possible with subs and boats would have to dodge missiles from eurofighters, heavy casualtys before they even land if they manage to.
The only real option is to land large mass of special forces on the islands and hope to take the base. Can't see 1-300 special forces taking a British base with 1500 people air and artillery and all sorts of other equipment there in under 24 hours. After 24 hours the base can be reinforced with thousands more troops. and by that time the game is over.
Stand by for action!!!
Apr 14th, 2011 - 04:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E06cNv55jTs&feature=relate
Ah, Stingray!
Apr 14th, 2011 - 10:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0Marcos, happy memories of young family together on the floor watching yet another saving-of-the-world-as -we-know-it.
It's so much easier when you are puppets, I guess.
Shhhh don't tell the warmongers above.
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