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Unasur condemns presence of HMS Montrose in the Falklands
The Unions of South of American Nations, Unasur, rejected British military presence in the Falklands/Malvinas Islands and again reiterated their full support for Argentina’s ‘legitimate claims’ in her dispute with the UK over the sovereignty of the South Atlantic islands. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesA single small warship to protect the Falklands, compared with the Argentine Navy?
Oct 31st, 2011 - 10:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0What a load of tosh.
Wow, we are quivering in our boots- a sideline statement from Unasur! Reality is that HMS Montrose may even go on to exercises with the Chilean Navy on the way back to UK in 2012 - they have 2 or 3 sister ships as it is!
Oct 31st, 2011 - 10:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0Think will be busy with his fantasy nails!
If Arg is so peacefull then can someone over there please explain why the RAF Typhoons scramble every 4 weeks or so to ward off FAA Aircraft that head out towards Falklands airspace- on a mission of course to see how close they get before they meet a response?
Well, one frigate, one patrol boat, an icebreaker, probably a small oiler (Rover class?) and the possibility of something nasty tooling round with a full load of Spearfish and Tomahawks.
Oct 31st, 2011 - 11:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0I was wondering the might Continent and its continental parliament, Unasur, would speak, following its heralded Summit last week.
Oct 31st, 2011 - 11:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0What pronouncements for the future of the nations of the Continent?
Summarising: “We don't like you defending territory that we would like”
How about this from Unasur:
“We are the one part of the world that does not need defense capabilities; we are forthwith going to stand-down all Spouth American armed forces, dismantle our military machines and 're-mould then into ploughshares'”
“He shall judge between the nations, and shall decide disputes for many peoples;
and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks;
nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war anymore.”
Isaiah 2:4
Now THAT would be Really Something!
Get it into your thick heads you brainless idiots our British Navy like any other Navy can go anywhere in the world in international waters or even underwater. Oh and another thing you gormless brainless idiots we don't have to negotiate anything we have found a peaceful solution, its this the Islands are ours and there is nothing NOTHING at all you whinging morons can do about it now fuck of or that small little ship of ours will send a message to the Wicked Witch of the South in the form of broadside. Hows that for a little bit of diplomacy. Get the message yet
Oct 31st, 2011 - 01:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Union Jack flying in the Falkland Islands this morning like every morning for the rest of time....enough said.fk
Oct 31st, 2011 - 01:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Poor Unasur. Still haven't caught up, have they? “is contrary to the region’s policy committed to a peaceful solution to the sovereignty controversy”. There is no controversy. Britain has no doubts about its sovereignty and the Falkland Islands have no doubt about their country. See? No problem!
Oct 31st, 2011 - 02:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Of course, HMS Montrose, together with HMS Clyde, might not be there if Argentina hadn't invaded and started a war in 1982. Or if it wasn't currently engaging in an attempted economic blockade.
HMS Montrose is, of course, an accomplished pirate-buster. Lovely ship with some nice guns, the Sea Wolf surface to air missile system, the Harpoon anti-ship missile system, torpedos and a Merlin helicopter equipped for anti-ship, anti-submarine and anti-personnel warfare. In November 2010, HMS Montrose engaged and destroyed a Somalian pirate ship while on patrol off the coast of Somalia. Shouldn't have any problem with anything that wants to get aggressive in her new patrol area then, should she?
Gibraltar has survived over 300 years of blockades and it is surrounded by Spain and Spanish waters, survived two world wars, a Spanish Civil War and over 40 years of threats from a fascist mad man called Franco.
Oct 31st, 2011 - 06:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We are so scared of you Argentina, we quake in our shoes at all your bullyboy tactics. It makes us strong. Keep it up.
Gibraltar has survived over 300 years of blockades and it is surrounded by Spain and Spanish waters, survived two world wars, a Spanish Civil War and over 40 years of threats from a fascist mad man called Franco.
Oct 31st, 2011 - 06:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We are so scared of you Argentina, we quake in our shoes at all your bullyboy tactics. It makes us strong. Keep it up.
Exept that the last 300 years you had an empire.....Now uk has nothing,except debt.....
@ 8 you start quaking, because our pistol is big and hard for you babe
Oct 31st, 2011 - 09:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 02 Islander1 “If Arg is so peacefull then can someone over there please explain why the RAF Typhoons scramble every 4 weeks or so”
Oct 31st, 2011 - 09:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes Kelper, the British pilots are afraid of Argentinean fog.
http://en.mercopress.com/2010/06/04/falklands-thick-fog-forces-two-raf-typhoons-and-tanker-to-land-in-punta-arenas
“Those Who Forget History Are Doomed to Repeat It” in 1982 the Argi's were saying that the UK is week the UK can not the UK will not, you best remember just how far of the mark you were then, as for argi fog just shows how good the Typhoons are when even argi fog turns and runs from them.
Oct 31st, 2011 - 10:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As is read, unsure, she is unsure what to do,
Oct 31st, 2011 - 11:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But sadly she cannot do anything, and again Argentina is looking very silly, they are in international waters and are patrolling Falklands waters,
And all south America can do is talk,
but as sure as their is a sun in the sky, Argentina will sooner or later, start something that she will regret for decades to come,
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XPERVE why are you again being such a dirty perverse gutter rat,
Where do you get of insulting women, nothing but a disgusting degenerate gutter snipe?
You should get on your knees and beg for forgiveness insulting, [8 Rachel ]
And others, if there is any human left in you, you should apologise,
You’re a bloody disgrace, you have gone downhill lately.
Marcos, no idea what the connection is that you are on about? That happened last year I think. Please enlighten me- what relevance has that to the aircraft scrambling regardless of weather to turn away routine FAA “probes”
Nov 01st, 2011 - 12:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0perhaps she is hoping that unsure will come to her rescue,
Nov 01st, 2011 - 05:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0or perhaps OAS will ask obama to send the fleet to protect a fellow member who claimes to be threatend,
interesting that this tiny little island sends shivers down the spine of argentina, lol.
Islander1: It doesn't. He just keeps a bookmark collection of storys he thinks are funny and randomly posts them by the looks of it. Makes no point whatsoever.
Nov 01st, 2011 - 07:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Marvin - at least we pay our debts!
Nov 02nd, 2011 - 01:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0Talking of ships, no sign of Ailing Arg these days? Pity. I have news about those 'Orders' for Jewett that he posted - the references don't stand up. Poor forgeries it seems.
Wonder if he was the forger or took someone elses work? No matter, took a while but the records have been checked.
Now here's a trick question - in the 1700's, who named Port Louis, 'Port Louis' ??
If Argentina is truly committed do using peaceful means only in its attempt to gain possession of the Falkland Islands, then I find it hard to see what its problem is. As it has shown that it cannot be trusted on this issue we have no choice but to send our military to the islands. We have no interest in invading Argentina, so in theory at least Argentina had nothing to fear from HMS Montrose. If, on the other hand, it tries any monkey-business in the Islands, then it will have HMS Montrose to answer to.
Nov 03rd, 2011 - 12:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0HMS Montrose will be re-called to Uk before being reployed to the Iran Gulf.
Nov 03rd, 2011 - 03:10 am - Link - Report abuse 02012 is going to be a year to remember.
@19fantasy,
Nov 03rd, 2011 - 10:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0Really? fantasy. Don't get your hopes up just yet.
@ 18 SamSalzman
Nov 03rd, 2011 - 12:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“If Argentina is truly committed do using peaceful means only in its attempt to gain possession of the Falkland Islands, then I find it hard to see what its problem is.”
The problem is that increasing the presence of the military goes against the world call to solve the conflict peacefuly and only reaffirms your position: “We are here, not because we have the right to, but because we have weapons”.
“We have no interest in invading Argentina.”
You already did.
21 Islas Malvinas ------Look you thick twat I am increasingly getting a bit pissed of with you lot of morons who have twisted history to fit your silly bombastic ideas. The only invasion around your neck of the wood was in 1982 when you did a bit of the usual skulduggery and invaded the Falklands. We all know, the whole world knows that, whats the name of the insignificant country, oh yes Argentina did not exists when we British landed on those Islands, so wtf are you going on about?
Nov 03rd, 2011 - 05:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 22 Britishbulldog
Nov 03rd, 2011 - 08:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Can you speak in the proper English way showing the English gentleman you are? Thank you.
“The only invasion around your neck of the wood was in 1982 when you did a bit of the usual skulduggery and invaded the Falklands. We all know, the whole world knows that...”.
If these words are true, then why isn´t the world asking Argentina to stop claiming sovereingty over the islands? Why is the world asking the UK to sit and solve the sovereignty dispute peacefuly if they don´t think there is something to negotiate?
Any thoughts?
23 Islas Malvinas------ Firstly you will find that I am no English Gentleman just an English man telling you how it is and putting you right on a few points. Secondly, there is no need what so ever to sit down with anyone over the Sovereignty of the Falklands. The easy way your dispute, notice I say your dispute as we are not disputing anything is to take your case to International Law which you have had the chance many times and have backed out as you know full well you are in the wrong and would get a judgement not in your favor and that would be an end of the matter. Thirdly, the only country in your neck of the woods who invaded peaceful islands was your country 1982 a most shameful act of aggression that saw your country rightly humiliated. And still you have no shame on the matter and brainwash your children into thinking that Argentina have a legitimate claim even though Argentina was not even a country when we took possession of a barren few Islands.
Nov 03rd, 2011 - 09:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Warship and Warships that sails in those waters is a constant reminder to you that we can never trust Argentina not to once again do another shameful act of aggression, The military force that is on those islands is again another reminder what to expect if once again Argentina invades the Falklands.
You could if you wish live peacefully with the Islanders and share the rich rewards that will come out of those waters in the future, however you have to stop this ridiculous charade of posturing that they belong to you. Do that and you will find that the Warships will disappear not overnight but in the future years.
23 Islas Malvinas
Nov 03rd, 2011 - 09:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 01982 when Argentina invaded the Falklands. We all know, the whole world knows that
If these words are true,????????????????????
Are you proposing to say, that Argentina may not have invaded the Falklands, and the British are just making it up to cause trouble.
Why isn’t the world asking Argentina to stop claiming sovereignty over the islands?
Well for this, you would have to ask the world, [UN] ect, why they don’t demand that the UK
And Argentina and the Falklands islanders sit down and talk,
[Perhaps, the argentines demanding nothing less that full capitulation from the other two, may be a factor ? ]
Perhaps its greed, or just plain anti British, or to get away from her own countries problems,
Or even the fact that she is totally and fatally obsessed with the Falklands,
Demanding like some sort or world stalker,
Or perhaps that the world is not only fed up with Argentina’s demands, but have no wish to get involved with an issues that Argentina utterly refuses to settle, unless capitulation is forth coming,
Perhaps the world is fed up with , wherever Argentina goes, from the international meetings or down to the public toilets, she does nothing but accost people, anyone, everyone, and go on and on and on, like an ariston washing machine,
Or, perhaps you could make you own mind up, and understand that Argentina is totally in the wrong, harassing bullying, and threatening and intimidating, and almost blockading a peaceful tiny island a fraction of argentines size, to get what she wants, Argentina has never owned or administered the islands, who freely wish to remain British, does this help at all .
Just a thought.
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Do Argentineans really need a reminder (every 30 years or so) of what happens to them when they get too big for their britches? It'd be a shame to make soldiers pay for the foolishness of their “patriotic” countrymen, who will limit their patriotism to the purely symbolic, staying home safe and warm while others go to fight. I hope it doesn't have to happen, but if there is no other choice, Britain will have no problem (re)teaching Argentina that particular lesson.
Nov 04th, 2011 - 06:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0@24Britishbulldog & 25briton,
Nov 04th, 2011 - 09:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0l couldn't agree more with both of you patriotic souls.
They definitely have this obsession with “OUR” lslands. Sick minds.
lf they ever managed to get their thieving grubby little hands on our lslands, l wonder who they would go for next? Chile? or Uruguay perhaps? Or maybe the south pole & come out in Australian territory. Grubs.
@26Dan4,
l think maybe they do need a reminder. l believe that they will try again.
purely symbolic, staying home safe and warm while others go to fight. I hope it doesn't have to happen, but if there is no other choice, Britain will have no problem (re)teaching Argentina that particular lesson.
Nov 04th, 2011 - 06:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0better get uk to teach how to employ the huuuge unemployed.in uk.uk is FINISHED!!!..
Next time we will do it better!!
uk out from the South Atlantic!
brits pirats,out!!
It'd be a shame to make soldiers pay for the foolishness of their “patriotic” countrymen, who will limit their patriotism to the purely symbolic, staying home safe and warm while others go to fight.
Nov 04th, 2011 - 07:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0FINISHED!!!..
Next time we will do it better!!
uk out from the South Atlantic!
brits pirats,out!!
Perfect example
27 lsolde ,,thank you
Nov 04th, 2011 - 07:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0as you see [28] nothing but threats.
isnt it great to be part of a proud nation,
rather than a sick obsesed broken plastic one .
Malvinero1:
Nov 05th, 2011 - 07:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0I saw the same attitude in 1982. How did that work out for Argentina?
Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
“Next time we will do it better!!”
Nov 06th, 2011 - 02:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How? You have less equipment, jets, ships and troops. While our Equipment is all new.
Good luck putting your Pucara's against Typhoons.
OK #21,
Nov 06th, 2011 - 04:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What both countries would agree is Argentina, if that makes you feel better
“The problem is that increasing the presence of the military goes against the world call to solve the conflict peacefuly and only reaffirms your position: “We are here, not because we have the right to, but because we have weapons”. ”
As it says, we are not sending out the weapons offensively, only denenfively. If you don't attempt any monkey business with your military then you have nothing to fear from ours. We have no wish for war. But it is the duty of Her Majesty's armed forces and government to protect Her Majesty's citizens and territory from any threat. Last time we tried leaving the islands without a garrison, they got invaded and we had to expend a lot of men and material in their liberation. I think the same would happen again, even though Argentina may claim peaceful-only intentions (No doubt because it had learned its lesson). Certainly no British government would want to take the risk and trust you.
And secondly is it so unusual for a country to plant weapons on its territory when it is threatened or even when it is not? We have weapons on mainland Britain for our defence, and that takes nothing away from our right to live in Britain. Argentina has armed forces and nobody questions its right to its land, even though it used the most appalling of methods to acquire some of it.
UNASUR:
Nov 06th, 2011 - 09:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Por que no te callas”?
Philippe
Phillipe
Nov 07th, 2011 - 10:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0Don't be too hard on Unasur, she says very little - and then to such little effect.
Actions, not words.
If the nations of SA *really* believed in her, the continent could be really 'buzzin''.
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