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The Guardian: “Britain is asleep over Argentina and the Falklands”
In a piece published last week in London daily The Guardian, and referred to the recent Mercosur support for Argentina in the Falkland Islands dispute, Richard Gott argues that a new scenario has emerged with South America growing in strength, increasingly united and no longer looking to Europe for support and advice which means a different framework for the Falkland Islands s sovereignty dispute. Read full article
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Dec 26th, 2011 - 11:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://falklandsnews.wordpress.com/
Its really good to see more realism in the City press.The guardian joins the Independent.The ultra conservative Telgraph admitted England cant defend the islands today.
Dec 26th, 2011 - 12:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But CFK has no intention of invading anywhere shes far too busy directing Argentina threw the stormy waters of the world crisis with 9% growth in 2011 and over 5% in 2012 projected even by La Nacion.
In the meantime The UK heads for recession at best,its breakup whenever Salmond pulls the plug and its complete isolation in Europe.
Dream on O'Gaga :-)
Dec 26th, 2011 - 12:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Id say your nigghtmare will be long big boy
Dec 26th, 2011 - 01:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is not the same Latin America as it was 20, 30 or 40 years ago. Latin America is rising as a world power. The old powers of the United States and Great Briton can no longer dismiss LA as a bunch of Mickey Mouse countries. This is the beginning
Dec 26th, 2011 - 02:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0'Big Boy' ?? What are you ??
Dec 26th, 2011 - 02:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0is funny how biased Mercopre$$ finish the article repeating twice something that original article in Guardian just put once and in the context of explanation....
Dec 26th, 2011 - 03:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Sources of oil under the South Atlantic seas are now, of course, part of the equation..”
honestly------the most important reflexion of the article directly from The Guardian and without bias is...
“South America is growing in strength and increasingly united. Britain must wake up to this new reality”
and...
“..common sense would suggest that the two countries should meet to negotiate a solution, and that is exactly what Argentina's president, Cristina Fernández de Kirchner, has often suggested..”
Enjoy the truth.....
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/dec/22/britain-asleep-over-falkland-islands?INTCMP=SRCH
and you Clown Lord Ton...start to write your CRAP for falklandsnews.wordpress......c´mon...w´re wating just for laugh.
Argentina is making noise to wake the sleeping beauty up...
Dec 26th, 2011 - 03:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0England every time you are more alone, those outside the European Union, Latin America hates you, you surpassed Brazil economically, China will not support you. U.S. with each passing day leaves you alone. Your empire is sinking! HAHAHA
Dec 26th, 2011 - 05:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#9
Dec 26th, 2011 - 05:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Please learn some geography: by “England”, I assume you mean the “United Kingdom”. England has not been an independent nation since the Act of Union in 1707.
The USA will always be the UKs ally, whether you think so or not (if it make to feel good to think otherwise, then carry on).
It make no ddifference whther China supports the UK or not.
We know that Brazil has just overtaken the UK as the 6th biggest economy in the world. We contratulate Brazil on ther success. It does not mean that the UK economy is getting any smaller. What it does mean is that Argentina is becoming less and less significant in South America.
Please also learn some more history - the British Empire hasn't really for about 50 years now, so there's nothing to sink.
None of British press is reliable.
Dec 26th, 2011 - 06:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When learning where neither gas nor oil around Malvinas
they try to change their glance , Afterthat ? they don't know how and
what will be .
We're asleep, we've got our feet up, and the land of nod beckons, and apart from flatulence (aimed generally at Argentina), nothing stirs.
Dec 26th, 2011 - 07:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Assure yourselves that when you do wake us up, you'll be getting a good hiding, like last time.
Now fcuk off, I'm trying to sleep.
do not neglect to drink your milk before sleeping.
Dec 26th, 2011 - 08:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So thoughtful, yes I need something to produce the flatulence.
Dec 26th, 2011 - 08:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Crackpot the UK has as much significance as the USSR.Russia completely dominated the latter as England does the former which is merely a flag of convenience for London domination.Ireland got rid of the UK in 80% of its territory almost 100 years ago with the last bit still to escape.Scotland is on the same road
Dec 26th, 2011 - 10:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There are many eho have been brainwashed by Murdoch and the BBC to beleive otherwise but this is the reality perfectly recognized in spanish as Inglaterra is almost always used to refer to the large island
Something tells me, that this piece of cheese, is just a little bit to big, for you little mousses,
Dec 27th, 2011 - 01:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0Keep nibberling, and the mousee trap will be the least of your problems.
O'gaga - even Eire has given up attempting to get Northern Ireland back. As for the Scots, Salmond keeps putting his referendum off to some future date. He still has little better than a 50/50 chance. That's the reality.
Dec 27th, 2011 - 01:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0“progressive and nationalist agenda” but Nationalism must be founded on truth, not fantasies. The islands belong to those who live there, the Falklanders. If our country Argentina really owns the islands, then why is that the United Nations never said a word about that? That's why Cristina de Kirchner is not saying that the islands belong to Argentina, because that is the truth, the islands are British. This psycopath we have as president will pay for this.
Dec 27th, 2011 - 02:05 am - Link - Report abuse 018 'This psycopath we have as president will pay for this.'
Dec 27th, 2011 - 05:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0I reckon she is more of a sociopath....
Anybody else seen 'Guard' yet?? Worth a look....very funny
@18 xbarilox: “The islands belong to those who live there” Say it to the conservative members of the Parliament in London, who recently they said: “the Falkland Islands are British; they are Her Majesty’s territory”.
Dec 27th, 2011 - 06:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0Who can believe that in this situation the islands belong to those who are living there? The resources are taken away from SouthAmerica!
17 As usual you are wrong.The Republic of Ireland has entered into an international treaty with England recognizing the head of state will remain the Queen with a coalition government in the North bewtween English and Irish and with Dublin having a serious say in the running of the province.
Dec 27th, 2011 - 10:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0It is agreed that when a majority so wish that the north will return to the Republic which is 100% Irish government policy.With Sinn Fein in government in the North and very likely to be in the next government in the republic the situation is likely to be fluid to say the least.
If Scotland chooses independence it wont be long until Ireland will also be united and free of the City after 800 years of terror.
I agree Salmond will have a 50 50 chance no more but he appears very capable contrary to the great majority of all European politicians right now
18 you are simply a deluded right winger who no doubt supported the military coups in the past against elected governments as in 76 with the support of Clarin and la Nacion.Wake up baby
Argentina is a democracy since 1983 and your far right wing delusions have no place anymore because 2-3% is all that support such claptrap
Argentina may have held elections but it is far from a democracy with all the corruption and payments made out of the budget - check my post on another topic for the Argie Govt facts about that.
Dec 27th, 2011 - 10:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0What it is turning into is a 'Dynasty'. Once Old Turkey Neck has flown the coop with her suitcases stuffed with USD (watch out for the sniffer dogs CFK) then her fat boy son will be in charge, once he gets over the suicide of his star pupil.
What a fcuking country!
@21 Ogara,
Dec 27th, 2011 - 12:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't you know anything about this site's loose cannon, Xbarilox?
He's not right wing or left wing or any wing.
He is Xbarilox, and he is unique. As a matter of fact, l enjoy his postings!
Sometimes he is more of a malvinista than you are, other times he is so pro-Falklands that l think he has a union jack on his underclothes.
l think it depends on what he has been smoking/drinking.
l like him & you should too. He makes me laugh & isn't that what it's all about? Peace♥
@21 Ogara
Dec 27th, 2011 - 12:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As far as I am aware, “England” does not have any international treaties with anyone.
The British Lion may be asleep, but don't you worry, he always wakes up at the right time! And he can be extremely dangerous! I have watched him for many years.
Dec 27th, 2011 - 01:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0FYI: Mr. Richard Gott is a senile, retired Soviet spy. Remember “Cuban” che Guevara? Comrade Gott admired him deeply because, as some of you may remember, he was the KING OF THE PAREDON!
Cheers,
Philippe
23 cheers Isolde i will keep that in mind
Dec 27th, 2011 - 02:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 021 Sorry i should have said the USSR sorry sorry UK
22 Christy from the land of honesty where the press can bug thoudands of phones and the police have a blind eye,where the lords can have their moata cleaned at parliaments expense,where the prime minister sacked his anti corruption chief because he was getting too close to the truth.I love the holier than thou hypocrit you are.England is hardly a democracy on your terms either is it Christy?
26 Ogaga
Dec 27th, 2011 - 05:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And how do you know all of this?
The answer is you read it in our papers! That's right, our papers, even your favourite the Sun carried it, the expenses corruption by our parliament was out in the open because of the Daily Telegraph: NOT the Gruniad (joke) NOT the Independent (another joke) but a conservative newspaper.
Shortly Argentina will not have any independent newspaPers or media because of the dictatorial new 'Law' (sure it's not a Decree by Old Turkey Neck?) that will control newsprint and set the price and who can by it.
Freedom of the Press? NOT IN ARGENTINA!
It still does not justifying a blockade of FALKLANDS boats their only link to a continent for trade it is an illegal attempt to terrorist the people there, whom if it was not for use British people would live under a dictatorship. FREEDOM IS THE ISSUE here oil is really what they have raised the question of ownership of the FALKLANDS. We as an island ourselves have managed to stave off invasion and twice been blockaded in two world wars yes we don't seem to learn our lesson do not put your egg's in one basket and rely on Europe for everything. The FALKLANDERS know this and want to be self efficient and know not being isolated they have Britain (this is aimed at comment 2 O gara) http://en.mercopress.com/2011/12/21/the-thuggery-of-argentina-s-falklands-claim#comment80100 (comment 93)
Dec 28th, 2011 - 07:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.mercopress.com/2011/12/21/the-thuggery-of-argentina-s-falklands-claim#comment80100 (comment 98)
http://en.mercopress.com/2011/12/21/the-thuggery-of-argentina-s-falklands-claim#comment80100 (105)
The thing is one a bully always a bully and after talks he will turn and hit you every kid learns this at school it just on a bigger scale.
O'gaga isn't even Irish, he's still quite silent about telling us when he moved to Buenos Aires :)
Dec 28th, 2011 - 11:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0The British should not assume the Americans are abandoning them. Hilary made a typically politically neutral statement “Britain should talk to Argentina” only because of the recent Wikileaks scandals, and desire for cooperation on drug trafficking. The US is, and always has been, officially neutral regarding the Falkland/Malvinas. But the special relationship trumps all. In 1982 the US gave significant intelligence and satellite imagery to assist the British, and took up the slack on some HMS naval patrols, so the British could focus on the Falklands war. My dad was part of it, so I speak with some knowledge.
Dec 31st, 2011 - 05:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0All of this talk is very cheap, indeed. The British do not need significant air craft carriers to keep the Falklands. They have superior drone craft, satellite imagery, battle hardened troups, night vision capabilities, and other technology to overwhelmingly defeat ARG. They also have backdoor support from the US, that CFK will never dislodge.
Argentines can disregard the Falklanders' right to self determination, but about 50% of Argentine citizens can only trace their roots in the country for less than 100 years. These were immigrants from the great wave of the late 19th century, when Eastern Europeans, Southern Italians, etc fled Euoropean poverty and pogroms. Many more came in the 1930's to escape Spanish fascism and the Nazi invasions. Odd, that they can self-determine their nationality in Argentina, but deny Falklanders the same rights.
While Argentina has claimed the islands for nearly 200 years, they certainly didn't do a darned thing about it until 1982 when the Junta needed a distraction. Now CFK needs a distraction from her runaway inflation (let's face it, 29% is the real annual number).
Any of the South American former colonies could claim the Falklands: Bolivia, Paraguay, Uruguay and Brazil: they were all once part of the same administrative system as present-day Argentina.
@30 Jayne Birkin,
Dec 31st, 2011 - 09:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well spoken, Jayne.
The main trouble with these maco-men is they hate the fact that they lost.
They always have to win & lifes not like that.
We have lost many times, but we've won a lot too.
You just have to get over it, learn from your mistakes & move on.
Thank you for your observations.
@30 Jayne Why doesn't the UK put this to international arbitration. You seem to have a pretty soled case. This would put the whole thing to rest. I read that Arg did this when there was a border issue with Chile. It resulted in a peace treaty. Why can't this happen in this case?
Dec 31st, 2011 - 02:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@32Livingthedream,
Dec 31st, 2011 - 08:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0lts up to Argentina to take us to court(the ICJ).
This they refuse to do, why?
Anyway, they will not accept the court's decision if they don't like it!
Some Argentine posters here have openly stated that they will take it to court only when they can stack the court with their friends!
How's that for corruption?
Their only other option is war, & at present they don't have the means to do this, hence their running around trying to drum up support from other(disinterested)countries.
l think that they want another country, like Brazil or China to do their fighting for them!
Either that or they're trying to talk us to death.
Peace.
29 Rhaurie-Craughwell
Jan 01st, 2012 - 01:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I agree about O gaga not being Irish. I know quite a few genuine Irishmen and all of them can speak and write English (their Constitution is wriiten in English) far better than O gaga, try as he might. Their use of grammar is also vastly superior to the banal efforts of the Pretend Irishman.
He might be an Argie with a bigger than usual superiority complex and thinks being 'Irish' is the way of demonstrating it.
mercopress always true to their bias nature, never missing an oportunity to miss an oportunity, Islas Malvinas Argentina have always bing an issue otherways Luis Vernet and the 1982 war would have never come into being part of history, sure the theft of resources will add insult to injury, but to portray oil as the sole reson for Argentina's stand is highly questionable, you have to wonder what kind of mind waste their time writing such crap, to talk ocean drilling without mentioning the latest british petroleum disaster or the extreme weather conditions in the south Atlantic or even that it refers to of the richest and healthiest fish supply in the world is an ignorant political analisys of the issue, maybe that's why the blame was put on the guardian right from the get go.
Jan 01st, 2012 - 02:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ah, one more fantasy in circulation these days for the gullible to swallow:
Jan 01st, 2012 - 04:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“That Argentina has claimed the Falkland Islands for nearly 200 years”!
This is what I call history upside down, invented by the injusticialistas.
Philippe
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