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Saudi dairy farm buys 30.000 acres of prime land in Argentina

Monday, January 2nd 2012 - 06:21 UTC
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Saudi Arabia's largest dairy company announced it was buying Argentine farm operator Fondomonte for 83 million dollars to secure access to a supply of animal feed. The acquisition will give Riyadh-based Almarai Co. control of roughly 30,000 acres of farmland just ahead of tough new limits to be imposed by Argentina's government on foreign ownership of productive land. Read full article

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  • GeoffWard2

    “The law limits individual foreign ownership of rural land to 2.500 acres per titleholder, and bars any more purchases by foreigners once 15% of Argentina's land is foreign owned.”

    So 30,000 acres is OK then, as long as 12 different arabs have their names on the title deed.

    And is it 15% of the agricultural land, or 15% of all the lowlands, Andes, deserts, marginal lands? If the latter, 15% would give up ALL the fertile land of Argentina into foreign hands.

    ....................

    “No one knows just how much Argentine land is already in foreign hands. The law is mandated to create a nationwide land registry to establish who owns what. Cristina Fernandez has said the law would not take away land already owned by foreigners.”

    Wouldn't it be nice if the Argentinian Government actually attempted to find out how much of their country has been sold off, and if that which remains in Argentinian hands is ideal for supporting the development of the nation.
    Perhaps the government is acutely aware of the answer and has a vested interest in keeping quiet.

    Jan 02nd, 2012 - 09:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    You mean, is someone getting their palm greased, Geoff?
    l find that hard to believe in such a Paragon of Virtue, like Argentina!

    Jan 02nd, 2012 - 10:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Valle Ricardo

    Argentina NEEDS foreign investors to buy land. So many abandoned farms. All owned by Argentines but doing nothing. Producing nothing. When Foregners come in they spend and get them producing again. How can this ever be a bad thing?

    Jan 02nd, 2012 - 12:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • O gara

    Saudi investment in English and Irish agriculture is huge so whats the problem in Argentina.If you took time to read the artcile the purchase took place BEFORE the new law

    Jan 02nd, 2012 - 12:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Sir Rodderick Bodkin

    Yeah, lets continue to sell lands indiscriminately.

    Jan 02nd, 2012 - 12:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    Has Almarai bought land,an argentine company that has land,or the ability to control the produce of an area of land.Why the fuss about the sale of the land from critics of argentine nationalism.There are some inconsistent reaction here.It's capitalism ,business,mutual trade,protectionism,all these things but the opposite,limiting the sale of land will also be open to criticism,probably from the same people.How much land do the Yanquis own in central America? And what was the effects of that ownership?

    Jan 02nd, 2012 - 01:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    That is a pretty stupid purchase, foreigners are going to be restricted on exports just like the Argentinian Farmers or possibly more. It doesn't do your population a lot of good if the products are thousands of miles away and trapped in customs.
    I heard Argentinians traveling abroad are limited to U$65/day atm withdrawals at the “gov't exchange rate”. I guess there won't be too many RGs in EU, UK or USA this year. You can't even get a decent lunch for that...

    Jan 02nd, 2012 - 04:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Fido Dido

    “I heard Argentinians traveling abroad are limited to U$65/day atm withdrawals at the “gov't exchange rate”.”

    It's worse than that. The bill they passed (I do not know if it's already signed) is almost a copy of the NDAA Bill, emperor obozo singed on new years day..which is even worse.

    Argentina anti terror law
    http://www.interaksyon.com/article/20691/new-argentine-law-adopts-broad-definition-of-terrorism

    vs

    USA NDAA
    http://www.interaksyon.com/article/20691/new-argentine-law-adopts-broad-definition-of-terrorism

    Jan 02nd, 2012 - 05:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    #8,
    Over Christmas, Argentina enacted a law providing a wider definition of terrorism that allows the state scope to jail people for up to 15 years for activities such as marching in protests or pulling their own money out of banks.
    The key problem with the legislation is its purposeful ambiguity – it allows the state to do pretty much anything it likes, because it defines ‘terrorism against the state’ to cover any action or expression that the government dislikes.

    Jan 02nd, 2012 - 06:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    So what’s to stop her, letting foreigners buy lots of land, then
    Nationalising them .
    .

    Jan 02nd, 2012 - 07:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • O gara

    Yankee you are just a troll machine.I would ask all the pro Argentine posters to simply ignore this boludo who has shown once too often he is simply a troll.

    Jan 02nd, 2012 - 08:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    I would not recommend anyone to buy or invest in Argentina. It is much to volatile with a President clearly being advised by Chavez. What will come next?

    Jan 02nd, 2012 - 08:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • livin' in argentina

    11 O g IRA lover you are just a troll machine.I would ask all the pro Falklands posters to simply ignore this boludo who has shown once too often he is simply a troll.

    Jan 02nd, 2012 - 08:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    Thought the issue was land purchase in Argentina.Aren't there other threads where posters can discuss what they are interested in.What does terrorism laws have to do with Almarai's purchase?
    Yankeyboy have you not realised that Almarai probably know what you know.That this purchase will have a long life.

    Jan 02nd, 2012 - 10:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    O'g you never answered my question are you Irish living in Argentina?

    If I am trolling at least I am giving accurate and timely info can you say the same?

    14. Time will tell...Saudis are looking to feed their growing, lazy population and preparing for when their oil $ runs out.

    Jan 02nd, 2012 - 10:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • livin' in argentina

    No yankeeboy, not Irish.

    Jan 02nd, 2012 - 11:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @3Valle Ricardo,
    Where is all this vacant land, just waiting to be snapped up?
    l have few dollars just doing nothing.
    Something to occupy our talents.

    Jan 03rd, 2012 - 08:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    Yes yank that's what the Saudi will be doing.Point.
    Isolde there is some in the south Atlantic but you don't have enough money,do you?

    Jan 03rd, 2012 - 09:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirat-Hunter

    #9 USA has similar laws and people are held in places like wantanamo without charges, evenb in Canada you are guilty untill proven inosent. I don't think we should expect Argentina to do any better, if you don't believe me see how USA and UK treats Mexicans and Gypsys and how Argentine treats the british illegal aliens in Islas Malvinas Argentina, it all depend on perspective and who writes all the BS we read.

    Jan 03rd, 2012 - 09:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    #19
    So true.
    And the 'common man' should say “Up with this, we will not put!”

    Jan 03rd, 2012 - 10:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirat-Hunter

    #20 if Argentina's trades with the UAE, Saudi Arabia, China, Pakistan or India isn't a way of telling the old european regime “up with this, we will not put” I don't know what other clues they need.

    Jan 03rd, 2012 - 02:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    21. Wow thanks for correcting me! I thought Soy was a worldwide commodity mostly sold thru the CME. Wow I don't know how I could have been wrong for so many years. How is EU feeding their cattle with out Argentina's Soy? Are they all dying? What a shame.

    Is Argentina exporting Cars to Europe too? Have they denied that trade to The EU in lieu of sending them to China? I bet they're crushed.

    Gosh what an idiot you are...

    Jan 03rd, 2012 - 03:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    No yankeyboy no cars are exported to Europe but European and yanqui car makers not exporting so much to Argentina.
    Are general motors doing well in their slimmed down version.Strange how all these US and European car makers have had their difficulties.Surely you can enlighten me on these matters,and food prices in the US and how they are holding up.

    Jan 03rd, 2012 - 09:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • O gara

    Yuleno Argentina exports of cars were almost 40000 cars to europe in 2011

    Jan 04th, 2012 - 08:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    Apologies for the error O'G.I was more concerned with the yanqui arrogance,as if its down to his efforts

    Jan 04th, 2012 - 09:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    “The law limits individual foreign ownership of rural land to 2.500 acres per titleholder, and bars any more purchases by foreigners once 15% of Argentina's land is foreign owned.”

    (I) So 30,000 acres is OK then, as long as 12 different arabs have their names on the title deed.
    ANYBODY KNOW IF THIS IS THE WAY IT WORKS?

    (II) And is it 15% of the agricultural land,
    or 15% of all the lowlands, Andes, deserts, marginal lands, urban lands, etc?
    If the latter, 15% would give up ALL the fertile land of Argentina into foreign hands.
    ANYBODY KNOW WHICH IS CORRECT?

    Jan 04th, 2012 - 10:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @18 Yuleno,
    You have no idea just how much money(& assets)that l & my family have.
    Don't like to skite, but we could probably by an estancia at least.

    Jan 04th, 2012 - 10:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    23. Which of the car manufacturers are Argentinian hq, GM, Ford, Peugeot or Fiat? What you don't have your own car mfg companies? You just mfg other peoples cars because your labor force is somewhat cheap? I bet you thought those were Argentina's factories! Naw RGs are too dumb to invent anything and history has proved that pretty well.
    BTW I think we have some food inflation here but it is such a small part of the avg USA family monthly spending it is irrelevant to most. Not like there huh? 50% of your population make less than U$1000/mo so people do care what tomatoes cost don't they? Food is a BIG part of your monthly expenses.

    Jan 04th, 2012 - 01:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    27# I don't know your wealth Isolde but it was a question.You might be shareholder of teaboy's business.
    28# you are an asset yankeyboy.We all know that GM is not an argentine headquartered company but I think it's ownership is global institution to a great extent and it's major asset is it's workers from the bottom up.The value of the company is its liability.You are neither are you?

    Jan 04th, 2012 - 05:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    2. Comrade, GM was founded and is HQ in the USA, yes it is global but all that means is there are sales and production all over the world, the profit all comes back to the USA eventually.
    BTW did you know USA companies directly employ 100+K in Argentina and contribute 4+% of your GDP?
    You can thank me anytime.
    USA USA USA!

    Jan 04th, 2012 - 06:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    So now you see that the Saudi are now getting in on the act
    That is a pretty stupid purchase, foreigners are going to be restricted on exports just like the Argentinian Farmers or possibly more
    14. Time will tell...Saudis are looking to feed their growing, lazy population and preparing for when their oil $ runs out.
    So does any of this apply to the yanqui or are they special.Oh yes of course you think they are don't you.
    Now are the Saudi investing in Argentina or buying land for the sake of it?

    Jan 04th, 2012 - 10:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    I think as a country The USA probably the largest landholder in Argentina (probably all of SA), although we don't export food back to the USA. Your beef is prohibited and we have more Soy and Wheat than we know what to do with. So we didn't buy this land to secure food supplies like the Saudis are doing all over the world.
    Most of the land that is held in Argentina are vast private pleasure estates held by rich Americans. Monsanto, Cargil etc. land holdings pale in comparison to Ted Turner and Douglas Thompkins (Chile).
    Plus Monsanto and Cargill have owned farms in Argentina for 100+ years they know how the game is played and will be there long after CFK is dead.
    Try re-reading the post again maybe you'll get it now.

    Jan 05th, 2012 - 12:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    good info #32

    Jan 05th, 2012 - 12:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    That is a pretty stupid purchase, foreigners are going to be restricted on exports just like the Argentinian Farmers or possibly more
    You said this about the Saudi purchase.Why is it stupid and yanqui leisure purchases aren't.Not that I agree that Cargill or Monsanto purchases don't have a business motive.You don't get rich lying around and you don't stay rich relaxing.
    Now get real and stop the imperialist posturing because it does convince since you lost vietnam and north Korea still rattles with your military

    Jan 05th, 2012 - 08:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @30yankeeboy,
    l just love Chevrolets.
    l have owned two & my partner owned one.
    Also we had a Holden(Australian GM car) in NewGuinea.

    Jan 05th, 2012 - 09:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    34. I know you are dumb but let me tyr to explain it a 3rd time...
    The Saudis are buying up farms all over the world, as you know they have a pretty dry land and can't grow enough food to feed their people, they have bought HUGE farms in Africa and the former Soviet block. This is to secure food for their population not export to the general marketplace. Argentina has strict controls on exports so if they buy a farm here and there is a poor wheat crop (like this year) the Saudis won't be able export it because the gov't won't allow it. They will be forced to sell it a a greatly reduced value to the state so RGs can have cheap bread and pasta. Their motivation to buy is not like someone from the USA. We don't need the produce to feed our population, never have never will. So I think it is a pretty dumb short term investment. Long term who knows but I think it will get worse in Arg before it gets better. I think you need someone like Pinochet to straighten that place out.

    Jan 05th, 2012 - 04:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    Long term who knows but I think it will get worse in Arg before it gets better.
    Your words yankeyboy,and the key words are'i think'.Do you know better than the Saudi or do you think you know better.I'm pretty sure your arrogance is at work here.How would land purchase be a short term investment.How long will restrictions be in place?Why don't the Saudi buy your surplus produce that your government subsidies?You must know the answer to these simple question because you are stating the deal is a stupid one
    And Pinochet was a criminal who couldn't remember why he was.And you are an idiot to suggest that Argentina needs such a yanqui stooge.Get serious why dont you,comrade!

    Jan 05th, 2012 - 08:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    You probably won't believe me but for about a decade I owned 20+/- properties in and north of BA from condos to quintas. I am pretty well informed of your real estate market probably much better than you.

    Real Estate can be a short term investment why couldn't it? I buy and sell property all the time. I got out of the ARG bubble a while a go. I knew I had to get my cash out of that horrible place before the gov't wouldn't let me. I saw that happening years ago and boy was I right and lucky!
    Saudis buy about 12Billion from the USA a year but just signed a contract for 30 Billion in new military equipment and training so I am not sure where you are going with this.

    Arg needs to have the corrupt politicians stood against the wall or thrown from a plane until there aren't any more. It's too bad Peron wasn't Pinochet, think of how rich your citizens would be now!

    Jan 05th, 2012 - 09:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    ln 1900 Argentina had the highest living standard in the world, l read somewhere.

    Jan 06th, 2012 - 07:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    Yankeyboy,you're right I don't believe you.I think you might be teaboy's company secretary,but property owner you never were.
    Isolde what are you muttering about or are you a yankeyboy clone

    Jan 06th, 2012 - 08:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @40Yuleno,
    Merely reminding you of how low your silly country has dropped in 112 years, due to gross mismanagement & incompetence on your part. ldiota.
    You did it all yourselves, too.
    We won't have to go to war with you again, in a few years your country will implode. Should be some rich pickings for a likely lad or lass! lol♥

    Jan 06th, 2012 - 11:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Yoda, Property owner I am! I just got out of Argentina. Whether you believe me or not is irrelevant to me. The only reason I post here is to offer contrary facts to idiots like you that think Peronism is the shining path to prosperity. How some people can be beaten down for 60+ yrs go from being rich to poor AND still keep their current gov't is a form of mass lunacy.
    I think it is fascinating to watch and as soon as the helicopter arrives (again) at Casa Rosada I will probably go down to buy again. It is always good to have U$ when places are unstable.

    Jan 06th, 2012 - 12:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    Lies yank.aren't you supposed to be back in 2 months staying at a hotel with a shanty town outside it.And what happened to the issue at hand,land purchase.You have no comment on that but try to defend your integrity with the same drivel that exposes you.Come on now!

    Jan 06th, 2012 - 01:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Yeah I am probably going in March/April, I don't want to but have to. The Sheraton downtown is directly in front of a huge Shantytown, but I would never stay there so don't know where you got that idea. I think BA is too dirty, dangerous and noisy.
    Last time I went I found a really beautiful hotel in the old part of San Isidro near the Cathedral. I tried staying downtown before I moved to San Isidro but seeing the cartaneros picking through the garbage, the children begging in the traffic and restaurants all the garbage piled on the streets it was just too depressing.

    If you don't understand why I think it was a dumb purchase after 3 explanations you are a pretty stupid and I can't explain it a 4th time. Maybe if you read it in Spanish you'll understand...
    http://www.ieco.clarin.com/economia/Liberaran-millones-toneladas-trigo-exportar_0_622737793.html when the gov't can tell you what you can sell and when to sell it, it is a HUGE problem, if you don't understand that you need to take an economics class.

    Jan 06th, 2012 - 01:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    well isupose if the middle east goes bang,
    perhaps the Saudi royal family, could live there,

    Jan 06th, 2012 - 02:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    45 Briton

    Great post- that would mean two lots of dynastic gangster families vying for the hearts of the Argentina poor, just so they can suppress them more.

    Jan 06th, 2012 - 02:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    Well well the four pillars of wisdom are speaking.
    Perhaps they will realise between them that the Almarai deal is done before any law preventing it taking place takes effect.
    That this purchase is one of many by the Saudi state which is of course not a democracy.Therefore they do not operate the way other business might operate and the goal is long term.To say it is a stupid purchase based on short term considerations is the stupid remark and from a person who obviously thinks his judgement is superior to others and with far less information
    Isolde is only background noise who might at some stage make a valid contribute.Her family is nearly as wealthy as a Saudi sheikh she says!

    Jan 06th, 2012 - 04:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Dont you mean
    Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse ?

    Jan 06th, 2012 - 06:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    If that is the case, I'll be on the pale horse, not to be confused with the white one. :o)

    Jan 06th, 2012 - 07:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    No I know what I mean,thank God.

    Jan 06th, 2012 - 09:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    why does he know what you mean ?

    Jan 06th, 2012 - 09:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    who knows?

    Jan 07th, 2012 - 04:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    Why don't you know??

    Jan 07th, 2012 - 08:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    35 lsolde
    Was the switch from a Holden Guinea gold to a Malvinense sheep traumatic for you?

    Jan 07th, 2012 - 04:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Marcos Alejandro
    trust you to spoil the convo.

    Jan 07th, 2012 - 06:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    54 Marco Alejandro

    No, it is a Holden, in New Guinea. Though I am not surprised you do not know the difference between that and a sheep (a Falklands one - there are no Malvinas).

    55 briton He just cannot help himself.

    Jan 07th, 2012 - 07:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    “I looked, and there before me was a pale horse! Its rider was named Death, and Hades was following close behind him. They were given power over a fourth of the earth to kill by sword, famine and plague, and by the wild beasts of the earth.” Revel. 6:8

    But see Turner’s ‘best of British’ for a real blow-away interpretation: http://www.googleartproject.com/museums/tate/death-on-a-pale-horse-68

    Yul, being a bit younger might think it sounds like an incarnation of immortality or some strange war-game.
    Chris knows better.

    Jan 07th, 2012 - 07:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    And then entered the 600
    On they rode to blood and glory
    Stupidity And Almost most gory
    By sword and by lance
    And returned on course
    Without a pale horse
    Just bloody red glory.

    .well eye tried .

    Jan 07th, 2012 - 08:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    To know others is wisdom
    To know oneself is insight
    To conquer others is to have force
    To conquer oneself is to be strong
    To know what is enough is to be rich
    To forcibly press on is to be ambitious
    To not lose what one has is to last
    To die yet not depart is to be long-lived

    Jan 07th, 2012 - 09:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    Well done, briton! l'm not much of a poet myself but l adapted one of Cecil Rhodes's 1890 Column,
    “When alls said & done,
    We have got,
    These Fair lsles,
    And they have not”
    originally, the 3rd line was “the Gatling Gun”.
    Marcos,
    When the oil starts to flow l am going to get a new Mercedes Benz.
    lts been promised to me♥

    Jan 07th, 2012 - 09:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Rudyard kipling
    To Robert burns
    The sun shines
    [British]
    If you can keep your head when all about you
    Are losing theirs and blaming it on you;
    If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
    But make allowance for their doubting too;
    If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,

    [Argentine]
    Or, being lied about, don't deal in lies,
    Or, being hated, don't give way to hating,
    And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise
    ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
    The advent is to understand what is not yours,
    Thus you must not claim,
    For if the dwellers of the land, don’t want you,
    Then one must except that you leave them be
    Or suffer the wrath of destruction of what you do have.

    For the righteous British have been chosen-
    To protect the innocent against such peoples-
    Who wish to take what is not theirs, from the rightful dwellers.
    [briton 2012]

    Jan 07th, 2012 - 10:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    You are certainly a romantic Briton unlike isolde who is pure idiot.For a fighter you do have a lot of weakness don't you.Why do you reveal them?

    Jan 08th, 2012 - 12:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    There are few weaknesses of me,
    I was taught 3 things
    That revenge is best served cold,
    A man has nothing to prove
    And being kind and considerate to other s who have less then you,
    Costs nothing, absolutely nothing

    I have been their, done it, and luckily got out alive to wear the [t] shirt
    Enough said,
    We can all be violent or kind if required, but as we are on a computer and 8,000 miles as the crow flies,
    Then why be insulting to a machine, that knows not, or understands what you are, or who you, and probably don’t care,
    Unless you have are luckily to have a tardis,
    I even have a good imagination
    But then im British, what do you expect [a geniuses]
    British will do .lol
    .

    Jan 08th, 2012 - 12:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @62Yuleno,
    Guess you didn't like my poetry. Told you that l wasn't much good at it.
    Or maybe you are cranky because l just pointed out the truth,
    1) That we have possession of these lslands.
    2) That you do not &,
    3) You never will(get possession of them).
    Sorry to burst your bubble. Hope this helps.♥

    Jan 08th, 2012 - 11:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    57 GeoffWard2

    I am also older! :o)

    Until the age of 12 I was the head server to our Priest in the 'High Church' of the 'Church of England' and I know the King James Bible very well indeed. Then I started to read science: I soon became an atheist.

    Most people with a casual knowledge of the bible confuse the Pale Horse with the White Horse (whose rider wears a crown). He is a bit of a pansey compared to Death, the rider of the Pale Horse.

    Yuleno, bless him, sometimes refers to me as 'the creator', I think because he is a catholic and despises atheists.

    Oh well! It takes all sorts. :o)

    Jan 08th, 2012 - 11:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    1/Isolde I've come to the conclusion that you are a bit lightweight.In you are lightweight.Go and read you're south Devon paper.There are some great historical fact to check on.
    2/Briton.I'm not insulting a machine.I respect the machine.You however are lacking in many things.Your maturity as a young man who has faced action dies not seem to reveal it's self.Are you sure you have seen action as you should know your enemy if you wish to conquer him.You reveal weakness and that is not good.
    3/the creator.You were only head server?What in your opinion is the great significance of the St James bible.Or don't you think there is any significant point to it.

    Jan 08th, 2012 - 02:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    66 Yuleno

    I do not understand your ? mark on the end of ‘Head Server’ or are you just being your usual cynical self?

    The KING JAMES bible was the one in use at the time of my religious indoctrination: which bible do you use to continue your indoctrination?

    The clue I gave about the difference between the Rider of the White Horse and the Rider of the Pale Horse was to differential between that which is usually confused. I take it that Revelations is different in your bible?

    To me you see Yuleno, God in all its forms does not exist, a bit like the Malvinas (there are no Malvinas).

    Jan 08th, 2012 - 03:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    60 Isolde
    New Mercedes Benz? To go where? :-)

    Jan 08th, 2012 - 04:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    Well well creator,looks like you are wrong on both issues,God and the Malvinas.You wish to deny it only exposes your knowledge as opinion.We can all have opinions and be like Isolde.Of no significance.Oh and yourself of course,Creator of opinions.

    Jan 08th, 2012 - 06:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    69 Yuleno your view is as the same, crap and rubbish, you dismiss what you think,
    You are indeed a thief and a coward,
    You steal what is not yours, then try to convince otherwise,
    And a coward, for abusing those who are weaker than you, innocent people suffer you countries theft,
    And you are no better, you take our politeness as a sign of weakness,
    Once again you over estimate yourself, and vastly underestimate the British,
    On the other blogg you called me a thief and a coward,
    Coming from an argie that has no clue as to the crap from his own mouth, your insults are as bad as your countries, disgraceful, and you wonder why, you will never get your hands on the Falklands,
    politeness it seems is returned as insults, the sooner the British wipe that grin of the Argies faces the better,
    You are nothing but pathetic,
    Get lost, thief ,

    Jan 08th, 2012 - 07:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    To all the Brits.

    Do you think it is time to ignore Yuleno? If we all ignore his posts where can he go, what can he do except play the cry baby card and rant and rave: but, that is usual, so no change there.

    I for one am going to ignore him from now.

    Jan 08th, 2012 - 09:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    Briton I said criminal/coward.You need to take more care.You slip up and lose position.Silly boy
    ChrisR the creator.you are also a silly boy.why would all British ignore me,only the moderator can take me off.You need to grow up and start posting sensibly instead of using the street mentality.

    Jan 08th, 2012 - 10:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Sir Rodderick Bodkin

    Street mentality? More like Chav mentality, i say. ;)
    They only resort to insults when they run out of valid arguments.
    I just read them for sh#ts and giggles. :-)

    Jan 08th, 2012 - 10:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Sir Rodderick Bodkin [you are correct]
    ChrisR [you are correct]

    Yuleno [who are you, we dont talk to strangers]

    Jan 08th, 2012 - 10:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    Yuleno, whose's he/she/it?
    Oh yeah, l remember now, thats the joker who was too lazy to research what happened in Amritsar & wanted me to do it for him. Oh well.

    Jan 09th, 2012 - 02:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    Isolde you are the one who didn't know your hero was cout marshalled for his actions at armritsar.I don't research on wikipedia
    or the south Devon press and I learn and not remember.
    CFK is well and recovering,isn't that good news!

    Jan 09th, 2012 - 08:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    76 Who are you?

    Jan 09th, 2012 - 09:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @76 unremembered Yuleno,
    lf you had read my first post about Amritsar, you would find that l said that he was court-martialed. Can't your feeble brain remember back that far?
    Where do you get the idea from that he was my hero?
    l have never said that.
    l also told you that several books had been writen about the affair, never once did l mention wikipedia.
    So you see, unremarkable Yuleno, everything that you have said in post # 76 is a complete tissue of lies.
    Just like your silly country's “claims” on the Falkland lslands etc.
    You people just cannot tell the truth, can you? Sad really.
    btw- what's all this about the South Devon press? l know not, please explain.

    Jan 09th, 2012 - 10:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    Chris/SRB/Brit/Isolde
    Yul is not stupid and, like Forgetit & Sergio, can provide thoughtful postings if we keep our comments 'measured'.
    I disagree with most people on this site frequently; I let them know; but I don't 'hammer' them (well, sometimes I hammer Forgetit, but we've learned to tolerate each other ;-)

    Smile more , guys.

    Jan 09th, 2012 - 10:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    79 GeoffWard2

    You are such a lovely guy to post as you have about Yuleno.

    Although an atheist I do follow the King James bible in certain areas. I ride the Pale Horse when treated as I was by Yuleno, he is a persona non grata as far as I am concerned.

    Jan 09th, 2012 - 04:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    [76]
    the child with no name, [UTTERS]
    utter little child

    Jan 09th, 2012 - 06:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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