MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
Falklands “opening” ceremony to celebrate clearance of mine-fields left by Argentina
Next March 26 the Falkland Islands will be holding an ‘opening’ ceremony to celebrate the release of another 3.5 square kilometres which have been cleared from mines and other explosives planted by Argentine forces during the 1982 invasion. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesArgentine positions which required slow and deliberate clearance of trenches, some of which were full of water and RG poo
Mar 02nd, 2012 - 07:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0Hmm, the the RG bloggers always state that their Soldiers were sent to war without ammunition.........
Mar 02nd, 2012 - 09:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0”A large number of un-fired ordnance was located in this area including M67 90 mm High Explosive Anti-Tank (HEAT) ammunition, Air to Surface Rockets, Hand and Rifle Grenades and small arms ammunition.”
I believe that statement proves them wrong yet again.
I think our Argentinian friends should read this and reflect. It may have some bearing on the Falklanders reluctance to have anything to do with Argentina
Mar 02nd, 2012 - 09:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0@1,2,3 I think history shows clearly that you cannot trust an Argentinian with the management of objective facts. Basically, they lie until they die.
Mar 02nd, 2012 - 09:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Better just clear the mines, feel sorry for their war dead and get on with being prosperous, because I can bet you any money, the Argies won't be.
@4GreekYoghurt,
Mar 02nd, 2012 - 10:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0l think that they don't know that they are lying.
Like in SE.Asia, its all about saving face.
A lie is justified if it stops them being embarrassed(they think).
Then, of course, if you are not of their clan or family then its quite ok to lie to an outsider.
They will never admit to being wrong, as this is, to them, a sign of weakness.
And so, they lie.
They know that the Falklands are not theirs.
But they've started lying about it and cannot stop.
Because to do so would be to admit that they are wrong & they would “lose face”.
They are just lying scumbags
@5 You're right, I once used a lyingscumbag-o-meter on an argentinian and it screamed, the pin bent around the top limit and then it melted onto the floor before bursting into flames.
Mar 02nd, 2012 - 10:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0It's what I expected, so i wore oven gloves.
Don't suppose you'll see many Argentines commenting on how they littered their beloved islands with thousands of unmapped landmines.
Mar 02nd, 2012 - 10:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0'Always look on the bright side'... they can never invade cos they don't know where the minefields are...' always look on the bright side of life....'
Mar 02nd, 2012 - 11:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0I know it's not a thought that we should hold, but is there any way one could get them to invade but channel them over the mine-fields by just moving the signs around. Then they'd have another failure and we'd get the mines cleared again and have more dollar-spending arg tourists coming to see their war dead?
Mar 02nd, 2012 - 11:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0I'll just leave that one there for the minute.
The entire Argentine government should be forced on their hands and knees to clear every single mine, with their own hands, while explaining to the people of the world how they justify their actions.
Mar 02nd, 2012 - 12:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Saw something recently (think it was a news clip) where an Argentine veteran is attempting to sue the UK for war crimes over the well documented incident where a POW set off one of the booby traps left by the Argentines that engulfed him in napalm and he was shot.
Mar 02nd, 2012 - 12:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I reckon that an appropriate “opening” ceremony would be to have 5,000 argies skipping hand-in-hand across the “cleared” minefields.
Mar 02nd, 2012 - 12:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@12 ... and think of the social benefits delivered!
Mar 02nd, 2012 - 01:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@11 Good luck to them with that, I'm sure the POW would have appreciated a longer and more painful death by slowly being consumed with fire, rather than the immediate release from life he had at the hands of the British, who could do nothing else except watch him burn or shoot him.
Mar 02nd, 2012 - 01:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Who brought the Napalm to the Islands, and who set up the booby trap?
@6 GreekYoghurt
Mar 02nd, 2012 - 01:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You're right, I once used a lyingscumbag-o-meter on an argentinian and it screamed, the pin bent around the top limit and then it melted onto the floor before bursting into flames.
That's a good one, just my sense of humour.
p.s. I wonder if any Argies will leave comments on this thread?
Actually I think this fairytale needs to go here instead. Far more appropriate and still utterly delicious.
Mar 02nd, 2012 - 01:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“It seems that most here are too young to remember the war, or even the commonly reported facts leading up to it. It also seems that the only things taught about it since is a one eyed propaganda story.
Here is what even the BBC would talk openly and honestly about at the time.
Only five extended families lived there before and during the war. They were sheep farmers and because of the remote position, their mutton and wool was far too expensive to pick up. England organised ships to pick up the products, in effect subsidising the Falklanders unproductive lifestyle farms.
No one wanted the pathetic chunk of dirt. The Iron Lady tried to give it to Argentina. Argentina refused. A year later Argentina believed a small propaganda coup was possible by annexing them peacefully and claiming victory over England as England would not defend it as they wanted to be rid of the place.
The Iron Lady desperately wanted a propaganda coup herself, and beating Argentina in a spat war was the perfect opportunity, believing that no or few losses would result. They even sent a Royal to heighten the propaganda frenzy. They lost two warships including a troop carrier filled with troops. It was only a matter of luck that the Royal was not onboard. They immediately withdrew the Royal.
England sent more ships. Only possible because the Commonwealth sent spare ships to patrol the waters the English ships patrolled.
Through force of numbers, England pushed the tiny number of Argentinian forces out.
At the time there was a lot of support on the Falklands for Argentinian rule. That support has continued for the following decades. Only recently, after a large number of English military has been stationed there has the ”opinion polls“ changed. Interesting since the Military now outnumber the tiny number of farmers”.
Bless..............
Annexing them peacefully ? There's a thought !!!!!
Mar 02nd, 2012 - 02:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You have to admit. It is a novel idea.
Mar 02nd, 2012 - 02:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 011 Idlehands
Mar 02nd, 2012 - 03:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Multiple war crimes committed by the Argentines during the Falklands War, most using the white flag and then firing on British troops who tried to take the surrender.
The MILLIONS of mines laid in the Falklands by the Argentines during the war are also a War Crime defined by international law and the Geneva convention. They have to be mapped and cleared by those responsible for laying them.
The entire Falklands War was an act of aggression on behalf of Argentina and was itself a war crime perpetuated on a small island people by a fascist military junta, with the blood of as many as 100,000 Argentines on their hands (Argentina's left wing youth, raped, tortured and dumped into the Atlantic with no know grave, ofter with any children who were present at the time of their arrest as they were witnesses).
Men like Argentine Falkland hero and coward murdering scum Alfredo Astiz, who during the surrender of his garrison on South Georgia (without a fight) led the surrender party through a mine field covered in anti personal mines and booby traps for helicopter born troops.
Most fanatics are also cowards. The Argentine's being made up of 75% fanatics are largely also cowards.
Only a nation of coward scum would lay claim to a small island people, against their wishes.
Ahhh the 60 day mine update by MercoP. Shame on those Brits that they rather to keep those mines after 30 years risking people lives. Argentina offer to remove all the mines in the past but propaganda is more important for them.
Mar 02nd, 2012 - 03:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Before the thread gets taken over by 'Chaff' as an Islander can i say thankyou to Mr Swanson and the deminers. Not only are you doing a fantastic job, but you are also really nice polite people too. A credit to you company and to your Country. Thank you..
Mar 02nd, 2012 - 03:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 020 Marcos Alejandro
Mar 02nd, 2012 - 03:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your coward scum laid them, come and clear the fuckers up fascist scum.
It would have been more useful if you hadn't put them there in the first place.
Mar 02nd, 2012 - 03:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@21 Mr Swanson and the deminers get three cheers from me.. hip hip hooray, hip hip hooray, hip hip hooray!
Mar 02nd, 2012 - 03:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@20 I'm not even sure how you have the nerve to come onto this thread considering the amount of 'peacefulness' you foreskins dealt out by laying these mines.
I bet these aren't mentioned in your schoolbooks on argentinian peacefulness.
Shame on those Brits that they rather to keep those mines after 30 years
Mar 02nd, 2012 - 03:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Shame on the argies 30 years to bring the people responsible for the dissapeared to justice
Thank u MORRISEY,
Mar 02nd, 2012 - 03:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.clarin.com/espectaculos/musica/Malvinas-Morrissey-Roger_Waters_0_656334551.html
OCUPPAS, GO TO UK!!!!!
25 Wrong, they are in jail or in the way there, inform yourself.
Mar 02nd, 2012 - 04:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Argentina former leader Jorge Videla jailed for life”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-12064831
“Argentina's Last Dictator Will Finally Go to Jail for Crimes Against Humanity”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-12064831
'Blond Angel of death' Alfredo Astiz is jailed for life“
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-12064831
”Menéndez sentenced to life in prison for crimes against humanity”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-12064831
@27
Mar 02nd, 2012 - 04:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Did you read my post?
Sorry, who is Morrisey ? I genuinely do not know.
Mar 02nd, 2012 - 04:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 028 Ah ok, well nobody had the balls to put them in jail, Cristina had plenty.
Mar 02nd, 2012 - 04:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Comment removed by the editor.
Mar 02nd, 2012 - 05:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@31 Claudio. Again, no one here is poor, we don't know what you're saying.
Mar 02nd, 2012 - 05:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@30 Marcos Alejandro
Mar 02nd, 2012 - 06:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“well nobody had the balls to put them in jail, Cristina had plenty”
It only took around 25 years and not for crimes against humanity, but for being a loser, now that tosser Kirchner is taking your country down a similar ruinous road to distract the people while she robs you blind, poor deluded fools
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Mar 02nd, 2012 - 07:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@34. Either comment in English or you are breaking the rules of the site!
Mar 02nd, 2012 - 07:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0On the telytext the government is looking into the claim by Argentina, to wear the Falklands flag and calling them Malvinas, on their Olympic shirts,
Mar 02nd, 2012 - 07:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0To see if they can be banned,
[suggestion]
If the Argies want this logo on their shirts,
Why then cannot the Falklands have a shirt, with a picture of Argentina on theirs, with the words [British Falklands] blazoned across the shirt, that may well make them think twice,
Justa thought.
.
@29 Clyde15
Mar 02nd, 2012 - 08:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He used to be the lead singer of the Smiths (prog rock band 1982-7), now on Yet Another Comeback Tour.
Comes complete with the usual line of radical left wing to bonkers animal rights loony politics, doesn't like Canadians or Chinese...
I'm going to go and have something cute and fluffy with big brown eyes flame grilled in a bun (with extra bacon) on principle.
20 Marcos
Mar 02nd, 2012 - 08:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ahhh the 60 day mine update by MercoP. Shame on those Brits that they rather to keep those mines after 30 years risking people lives. Argentina offer to remove all the mines in the past but propaganda is more important for them.
Your leaders from 82 should have thought about that before they laid them all.
The mines have been managed safely ever since the UK resumed control. The Royal Engineers have done a sterling job keeping us all safe. Since June 14 1982 there has only been one casualty and that was a military Royal Engineer officer who lost a leg. There has not been a single civillian casualty in that time.
Listen to yourself Marcos. Your country was responsible for laying almost 120 mine fields in our country and all you can say is that we're milking the propaganda potential.
Give up before you die a sad, bitter old man.
20 Marcos
Mar 02nd, 2012 - 09:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 038 The Falklands are British
Maybe if Marcos is so worried about the negative public relations affect of millions of mines left behind for the Falkland Islanders by his military, he would agree that his government should have cleared them up after the war.
Ah but they they weren't properly mapped! A war crime.
27 Marcos Alejandro
Mar 02nd, 2012 - 09:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How long did General Galtieri spend in prison? He didn't go!
How long did Major General Antonio Domingo Bussi spend in prison? he didn't go!
Bussi could serve as the ultimate proof of how short people's memories can be; nearly twenty years after committing crimes against his own people, retired army general Bussi was elected as governor of the province of Tucuman. Argentine writer Ernesto Sabato -- who during the 1980s led the National Commision on the Disappearance of Persons (CONADEP) -- called Bussi's election “a horror,” and pointed out that if it wasn't for the “Punto Final” amnesty law, the former general would be in jail.
Ramón Camps?
In December 1986, three years after the end of the dictatorship, he was sentenced to a 25-year term in prison, but he benefited from the amnesty granted to all but the higher officials by the so-called “Pardon Laws”
I could spend all day going through the list of figures found guilty, sentenced and then “pardoned” or cleared (even though clearly guilty), or not even put on trial at all.
You should all be disgusted by this but clearly mass murder, rape, torture and infanticide is ok. “The Malvinas” is far more important to you people. It truly is disgusting. Argentina is a truly frightening place, that it can forgive these crimes.
http://www.yendor.com/vanished/junta.html
@39 Don't tell Marcos that not mapping a minefield is a war crime, it'll ruin his image of Argentina being spotless and make him cry.
Mar 02nd, 2012 - 09:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ahh.. poor Marcos.
Marcos your people can come over and clear the mines one by one hand in hand stomping over every single minefield that you coward soldiers laid here in 82 so come on over and do it as you are so full of $%&&^ you have not got a clue.......
Mar 02nd, 2012 - 09:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 040 “CameronHighlander”
Mar 02nd, 2012 - 10:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Galtieri died while serving detention under house arrest.
Bussi died, he was serving a life sentence.
Camps died, I saw this animal personally one day when he was under arrest in a very nice place.
Camps enjoyed an effective amnesty with others however only because of dead they escape justice like all the others.
About the mines
“In 1999 the Argentine and British Governments discussed the possibility of removing the mines and the Argentine Government offered to finance almost all the costs of the current Feasibility Study. Two Argentine Government officials accompanied the Cranfield University team, and visited a vast majority of the 120 minefields which are fenced and clearly marked. However the residents of two farms on West Falklands and a farmer on East Falklands indicated their unwillingness to have the Argentine officials visit their land”
British soldiers recovered more than 70 minefield maps from Argentine prisoners-of-war in 1982 while many more were discovered in private homes”
http://en.mercopress.com/2006/12/22/argentine-mines-laid-in-1982-could-be-cleared
The reason they were left where they were because it was technically dangerous and demanding to find plastic mines that move up and down in a peat bog.
Mar 02nd, 2012 - 10:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Also once the minefields were marked they were safe and little pressure on and use in the islands.
The falkland islands Goverment actually asked for the considerable amount of cash be used to help a country where people die from mines.
But the uk would have been in breech of international law if it didn't start.
Remember being on patrol and looking down to find a warning minefield sign sticking out of the mud not a fun moment.
Although goose green had an interesting golf obstacle a mine field
Marcos prove Argentina ever made a serious offer to clear up its dangerous junk.?.
@44 “The reason they were left where they were because it was technically dangerous”
Mar 02nd, 2012 - 11:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They are but doesn't seem to be a major problem for the Zimbabwean workers.
@45 Do all Argentinians find Land-mines funny? Is it some curious machismo joke thing you've got going on there?
Mar 02nd, 2012 - 11:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well kit has moved on in thirty years and the mostly Mozambican crew have a lot more experience clearing mines.
Mar 02nd, 2012 - 11:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Know one of the team leaders lost his leg clearing up after the israelis latest let's spread cluster bombs around Lebanon.
If you had a half competant military most would have been cleared up as the minefields laid by argentine militar engineers were.
The ones spread in a panic by conscripts much harder to clear. As you broke the rules of war by not recording where they were planted.
@47 “If you had a half competant military”
Mar 02nd, 2012 - 11:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well, we didn't nor your gov. officials were really commited to remove them.
@48 I think he meant to say “if you weren't morally vacuous little 5h1ts that wouldn't know humanity if it fell on them” not “If you had a half competant military”.
Mar 02nd, 2012 - 11:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just for your information.
Some info for scandalized newbies:
Mar 03rd, 2012 - 08:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina has offered several times, during the last 29 years to send demining teams and remove every single mine.
The United Kingdom (+ the Kelper hardliners) have refused the offer every time.
The minefields are still there in contravention of the Ottawa Treaty, signed by the UK
Not because they are difficult to remove, but because they are a magnificent propaganda tool to get emotional Anglos to react without ”Thinking”
en.mercopress.com/2011/04/22/chilean-army-clearing-antitank-and-antipersonnel-mine-fields-in-tierra-del-fuego (44)Think
I quote MercoPress:
”While Britain welcomed a commitment from the previous Menem Government to pay for the clearance of the mines, it rejects any suggestion that this involves any compromise on the sovereignty claim. The De La Rua Government's official responsible for Falkland’s affairs, Susana Ruiz Cerruiti, is quoted as saying: “Argentina will pay whatever it costs to remove the mines planted by Argentine troops. Removal of British mines will be at British expense”
http://en.mercopress.com/2000/10/27/falklands-mine-clearance-talks-in-argentina
I quote a Kelper:
”There is a very good reason why Argentina is not permitted to pay for the removal of mines in the Falkland Islands. The Ottawa Treaty requires states to remove the mines from their own territory. The Falkland Islands are not Argentine territory. I understand that Argentina was involved in the early stages of planning the demining, but their input was not required in the end”
http://en.mercopress.com/2000/10/27/falklands-mine-clearance-talks-in-argentina (11)Monty96
I would also like to draw your attention to the following book:
http://en.mercopress.com/2000/10/27/falklands-mine-clearance-talks-in-argentina
Seems your good neighbours were in no hurry to remove the argie blockers
Mar 03rd, 2012 - 08:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0According to the report released to the press, Chilean Armed Forces special teams located and destroyed 3.462 anti personnel mines and 1.844 anti-tank mines in the Bahía Azul three areas to the north of Tierra del Fuego. This has been accomplished between December 2006 and June 2010.
Our resident Patagonian Squatter & Argentine Secret Agent @#50 has given lots of reasons for British perfidy(he thinks)over why the mines haven't been removed.
Mar 03rd, 2012 - 09:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0But what he hasn't pointed out to the “newbies” is that none these problems would exist, if:-
HIS INVADING COUNTRY, ARGENTINA, HADN'T PUT THE MINES THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They had no right invading our land & furthermore, they rant on about Britain not observing non-binding(suggestions)UN resolutions but conveniently ignored a binding UN resolution #502.
They caused the problem,
They are the problem,
Also, l don't trust the Argentines to successfully remove them all.
We all know how slipshod they are.
Poltroons
50 Think (clown)
Mar 03rd, 2012 - 09:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0You know as well as everyone knows that Argentina wanted nothing more than the opportunity to milk more propaganda than could've been imagined out of clearing the mine fields. They would've claimed that they had cleared the mines from their own state, bla blah blah.
They are being cleared now and without much fuss. The impact the mine fields have had on our islands was more of a annoyance because they were no go zones and often in places that were favourite recreation areas beforehand. They were not a danger to our children. They were all safely managed and caused no injury to anyone except the one EOD officer in the late 80s.
What on earth were the Argentines thinking when they laid the mines in the first place?
Is there anywhere that Argentina hasn't laid fields of unmapped land-mines? How frightfully peaceful they must be, doing all that illegal stuff.
Mar 03rd, 2012 - 09:35 am - Link - Report abuse 054 Greek
Mar 03rd, 2012 - 10:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0I don't know about where else they have laid mines. I was trained to lay, map, mark and clear mine fields and although, thankfully, I never had the misfortune to do any of those things with the live product, I was taught enough about how sinister they are to realise that I wanted nothing to do with the damned things. Luckily we signed up to the treaty ( or whatever it was; I don't remember) of not using them before I almost had the opportunity to in the 80s.
@54 You're a braver man than I am. I'm not sure I could cope with shooting a man in face-to-face combat, as my mind would construct a map of dependencies and levels of loss for each of those people, sum it all up and huge levels of guilt would follow. I'd probably just ask them to shoot me instead.
Mar 03rd, 2012 - 10:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0I certainly couldn't cope with the thought of tearing a child's body apart with a landmine while they play with a ball, or a father losing their leg and sight while they go for a walk. It's bad enough that people have to clear these things, when they're unmapped.
I guess Argentinians don't have this problem, because they're pathologically incapable of any kind of guilt or human feeling.
56 Greek
Mar 03rd, 2012 - 10:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0I'm not brave at all and I walked away from it all. Like you said, I was seeing the family and friends associated with each potential man in my sights. It wasn't for me except in a true defensive theatre I hope I might be able to rise to the challenge.
So are all the islanders? should be no problems with the ozone layer! perhaps much ultraviolet put me black?
Mar 03rd, 2012 - 12:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The ironic thing is the minefields proved little obstacle t0 UK forces.
Mar 03rd, 2012 - 12:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@50 Think
Mar 03rd, 2012 - 12:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Argentina has offered several times, during the last 29 years to send demining teams and remove every single mine”
Do you think (of course you don't) that anyone would trust Argentinians to clear the mines, Islanders would for even think they had deliberately left some or planted some more that are harder to detect.
You can't be trusted.
59 Martin
Mar 03rd, 2012 - 12:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The mine fields they laid were mostly used incorrectly. Like you said, they are designed to act as obstacles but the majority of the ones laid in 82 were left to exist independently and that is not how they are meant to work and mine fields left this way will almost certainly always fail. The trouble is the shiralee that the mines became afterwards.
Several times during the war Argentinian units falling back from frontline positions, found themselves retreating through minefields laid by other Argie units behind them, which they knew nothing about. With the resultant casualties. The mines were not totally ineffective.
Mar 03rd, 2012 - 05:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 062 Pugol-H
Mar 03rd, 2012 - 06:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That is the problem with minefields laid by people who don't know what they're doing. The mines don't discriminate. The way a lot of the minefields were laid in 82 was illegal (although, I have a problem with the concept of “illegal” in a theatre of war).
to be honest the reasons you plot a mine field correctly not only so it can be cleared afterwards but so you know where the hell the mines you laid are.
Mar 03rd, 2012 - 09:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0good point .
Mar 03rd, 2012 - 11:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and you should make sure you keep a good eye on them , just to make sure the Viet Cong don't come along in the middle of the night, dig em up, and lay them somewhere else.....
Mar 04th, 2012 - 07:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0TWIMC
Mar 04th, 2012 - 08:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0I can see that MercoPress is intensifying its coverage of the “Malvinas Landmine Issue”.
Until now they published an “Update” about this “Issue” every 48 days or so….
Now they are reporting a “Landmine Celebration” due in about 24 days…..
24 days from now, we can surely expect a full reportage of said “Landmine Celebration”
24 days further away, we may get lucky and get yet another “fact-packed reportage” telling us about that “Landmine Celebration” they hold some 24 days ago.
Brainwash anybody?
@think
Mar 04th, 2012 - 08:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0I can understand why the islanders would'nt want Argentine soldiers on the islands.
Seeing your lot strut about in their uniforms, making tactless remarks about owning the place, calling the Islanders “squatters” and generally making themselves into an unpleasant nuisance would probably bring back unpleasant memories.
Anyway, as had already been stated the big problem was that so many of your little toys were laid in unmarked fields that were not properly documented. If, as Argentine posters are claiming, maps did exist, why were they not handed over during the surrender.
The only reason I can “think” of is to kill locals and British servicemen.
The minefields are your legacy. You should never have invaded the Falklands in the first place. Proud of them are you?
@67 Think
Mar 04th, 2012 - 10:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0“24 days further away, we may get lucky and get yet another “fact-packed reportage” telling us about that “Landmine Celebration” they hold some 24 days ago.
Brainwash anybody”
Think, one of the classic symptoms of being brainwashed is, the people suffering from it actually Think that it is EVERYBODY else that is brainwashed and not them.
Get help
@67 You cannot brainwash landmines, they're typically inanimate objects. Even if you place them unmapped and against international law, they're still incapable of being controlled by thoughts.
Mar 04th, 2012 - 10:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0their were some maps and those minefields were cleared relativly quickly.
Mar 04th, 2012 - 04:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0the ones that were done in a hurry by the untrained were the ones that cause the problems.
@68 shb
Mar 04th, 2012 - 04:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Argentine posters are claiming, maps did exist”
Didn't know that, truly amazing.
Is nothing sacred to these people
@72 So according to an Argentinian maps exist of the minefields, they just never handed them over? That sounds like an attempt to get out of admitting Argentinians don't fight to the rules, and totally ignore international law when they do.
Mar 04th, 2012 - 08:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My question is, if they thought they would keep the islands, why bother laying so many mines? Seems idiotic.
I think the bulk of the mine laying occured after the British landings and was probably done in haste... prior to that they had mined Gypsy Cove etc expecting a frontal assault... dopey buggers...
Mar 04th, 2012 - 09:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0From post 43 QUOTE ”British soldiers recovered more than 70 minefield maps from Argentine prisoners-of-war in 1982 while many more were discovered in private homes”
Mar 04th, 2012 - 10:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You should have handed over all maps following the surrender straight away.
You have accurately recorded where all the fields were.
And even better than that you should never have laid them in the first place and stayed in your own country.
@70
Mar 05th, 2012 - 12:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0@67 You cannot brainwash landmines, they're typically inanimate objects. Even if you place them unmapped and against international law, they're still incapable of being controlled by thoughts.
Uri Geller could set them off in a beautiful orchestrated display like Sydney Harbour Bridge seeing in the new year.
Oops - made a mistake
Mar 05th, 2012 - 06:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0You have accurately recorded where all the fields were.
should read
You should have accurately recorded where all the fields were.
Pugol- H “Is nothing sacred to these people” . Well nothing was to your lot, you used Port Stanley as a toilet and wrecked the place.
And whats wrong with constantly reminding you, Think?
Mar 05th, 2012 - 07:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0Wouldn't happen & would salve your fragile ego if :-
YOUR COUNTRY HADN'T PUT THEM THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE!
lts like blaming the bank & the bank staff for being robbed.
You Argentines have a very strange logic.
@78 they have logic?
Mar 05th, 2012 - 02:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@77shb
Mar 05th, 2012 - 07:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“your lot” - not sure who you are refering to there.
FYI - I am not an Argie!
@80 Pugol-H,
Mar 05th, 2012 - 10:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0l noticed that also. Maybe shb is confusing you with someone else.
@79GreekYoghurt,
Yes, you're right.
They think like little children one sometimes hears in the supermarket, giving their mothers a hard time by wanting everything that they see & chucking a tantrum when Mum says “no”.
@ Pugol-H
Mar 06th, 2012 - 06:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0Sorry for the friendly fire! I picked up on the “is nothing sacred” part of your post.
I seem to be a bit accident prone on this thread- missing out words and mis-understanding a return post is'nt a fabulous was to go about things.
No worries
Mar 06th, 2012 - 08:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Its the result of rushing before I go to work. Checklist - get cup of tea,- get breakfast (usually toast themed) - annoy malvinistas.......
Mar 07th, 2012 - 10:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Great way of pre-emptive stress relief.
@84 shb,
Mar 08th, 2012 - 06:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0l love annoying malvinistas.
lts not the most important thing in my day, but it is enjoyable. lol
@84/5 ditto...
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