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Puerto Madryn welcomes all cruise vessels; Ushuaia tourism industry blasts the governor

Saturday, March 3rd 2012 - 04:37 UTC
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The Patagonian province of Chubut said that contrary to what happened earlier this week in Tierra del Fuego, there is no ban on any cruise vessel flag and all are welcome to dock and make use of the provincial ports’ services, particularly Puerto Madryn which belongs to the South Atlantic sea tourism circuit. Read full article

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  • Lord Ton

    Oh good - a 'united' front :-)

    Mar 03rd, 2012 - 04:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Beef

    As Think said “fasten your seatbelts”. I presume he meant for the Argie infighting?

    Is this what you meant Think? Chuckle :-)

    Mar 03rd, 2012 - 07:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    Think's very, very, very cunning plan.
    Is it as cunning as a fox what used to be Professor of Cunning at Oxford University but has moved on and is now working for the U.N. at the High Commission of International Cunning Planning?

    :-)))))

    Mar 03rd, 2012 - 07:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Falklands are British

    The guy is making perfect sense. Banning ships could leave the region stripped of cruise business. The cruise companies don't mess around. The interpretation used in Ushuaia of the Gaucho Rivero bill was grossly twisted and everyone knows it. Stopping cruise ships was not its intent.

    Mar 03rd, 2012 - 07:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (2) Mr. Beef

    As Think said “Fasten Your Seatbelts”….. He meant for the Argie In-flight!

    Chuckle chuckle©

    Mar 03rd, 2012 - 08:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    DO THESE PEOPLE ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING?????

    Surely you either ban all shipping bearing the Jolly Roger, or it's derivatives or you don't. It's that f*cking simple people.

    Actually we'll just avoid your ports while you sort it out.

    Mar 03rd, 2012 - 08:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Beef

    Ambitious Thinking Think. Although i doubt your inflight service will be anyway near that experienced on the top-deck of that Emirates A380, hmmmm, nice : -)

    It does seam that your dear leader has burnt the bridges though, so i suggest her recent 3hr homily will turn out to be more hot air and you will continue to be led in ever decreasing circles.

    Mar 03rd, 2012 - 08:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JuanStanic

    I said this was happening. And so starts the end to the Ushuaia ban on cruise ships.

    Mar 03rd, 2012 - 09:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Beef

    Are the seat belts being unclipped Juan?

    Mar 03rd, 2012 - 09:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Be serious

    LMAO.

    Mar 03rd, 2012 - 09:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    Pedal then back-pedal then pedal then back-pedal then pedal then back-pedal then pedal then back-pedal then pedal then back-pedal then pedal then back-pedal then pedal then back-pedal then pedal then back-pedal then pedal then back-pedal then pedal then back-pedal then pedal then back-pedal then pedal then back-pedal then pedal then back-pedal then pedal then back-pedal then pedal then back-pedal then pedal then back-pedal then... repeat ad nauseum.

    Mar 03rd, 2012 - 09:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    Think's own province too!
    Hows your solidarity with TDF, comrade?
    Snigger, snigger ☺☺☺☺.

    Mar 03rd, 2012 - 10:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    Seriously though, is that a photo of a man or a lady? i can never tell with argies.

    Mar 03rd, 2012 - 10:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Teaboy2

    If its a Woman then she mst use the same plastic surgeon as CFK by the looks off her lol

    Mar 03rd, 2012 - 11:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    TWIMC

    The Cruise Ship “Gambit” has been tested and it has proven quite effective…
    The Cruise Industry has been warned and they will be ”gently reminded” in the near future in Miami.
    No reason to throw good money out of the window :-)

    PS:
    (8) Nice to have you still on-board, Mr. Stanic.
    We are showing the “turnips” how diverging ideologies coexist perfectly in today’s Argentina.

    Saludos and may a lot of Brazilians rain on you this winter season…..
    El Think

    Mar 03rd, 2012 - 11:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Falklands are British

    15 Think

    Have you figured out what our alternate option to the LAN flight or KFC's dreamland Aerolineas Argentinos offer of flights is yet? Chuckle.

    Mar 03rd, 2012 - 11:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Beef

    Yes Think, it was quite effective at making ordinary Argentines lose money. I assume this is compliant with your socialist ideology of making sure everyone is equally poor?

    Mar 03rd, 2012 - 12:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Sergio Vega

    There are some people that use their heads to think yet in Argentina......Chubut is understanding that it´s not the right way to pressure through the cruise vessels industry.

    Mar 03rd, 2012 - 12:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    TWIMC

    The South-Atlantic Cruise Season is soon over……
    The “Gentle Reminding to the Cruise Industry” will continue in Florida on a forthnight….
    The results of this Gambit will first show in December….

    Much more interesting events coming up the next couple of weeks though….

    1) A long overdue Rockhopper’s CPR.

    2) The first BOR result ( BTW; their shares dropped 4,5% yesterday… a bad Omen…. A Duster?.... Let’s hope so…..)

    Mar 03rd, 2012 - 01:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Doveoverdover

    I'm with Think on this one. All these initiatives are designed to influence the risk calculation of an oil major joining in the exploration process around the islands. Regarding this I was struck by the almost total lack of press coverage on CFKs order to the FM to warn off stock markets to this effect.

    Mar 03rd, 2012 - 01:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @20 I'm not so sure about that. I personally thought they might be manipulate share prices in order to buy into the oil companies once the oil starts flowing.

    The one economic control they have over the islands is risk, I think we're all agreed on that one. But I think she'll try to do a YPF-Repsol here, and it's a part of a long term play involving the Acquisition of aforementioned company.

    Mar 03rd, 2012 - 01:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    @21 GreekYoghurt

    A long term play with the CFK gov means to the end of that day.

    YPF will have to be nationalised in the end, because they are trying to run a business and she is running a popularity contest, and the two are not compatible.

    As for the Falklands oil, the oil industry is quite used to operating in conflict zones, this spat in the south Atlantic will not bother them one iota. Only the size and accessibility of the deposits will have any real impact on their thinking.

    The way it work with the cruse industry is they tell a port what they want and expect, and the port agrees and makes it happen, or they go somewhere else, it is not a negotiation in any sense of the word. Puerto Madryn seem to realise this, Ushuaia clearly does not.

    It will be interesting to see what happens when larger and larger numbers of ships and rigs start arriving in the S Atlantic for the Falklands oil fields, if places like Puerto Madryn even keep to the ban on oil vessels.

    I somehow doubt Montevideo or Punta Arenas will ban all that business, probably get rich on it instead.

    Mar 03rd, 2012 - 03:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Xect

    Brilliant, more comical activities in the ministry of clowns.

    Such staggering incompetence is just hilarious to watch!

    Its hardly surprising their international strategy and politics is such a shambles.

    Mar 03rd, 2012 - 04:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Doveoverdover

    @21 and 22. The fact that all these things are happening now combined with a growing expectation, fed by the reports of corporate jets flying in from the north, that something is about to happen on the farm-out front is IMO not a coincidence. The flights offer is a classic. It says to the oil industry “look how much easier and economic it would be to service the oil industry if crews and contractors could fly in an out from BA” . If the C24 and the GA can't convince the UK to negotiate perhaps the US and their home oil industry can? I don't say its right, I don't say it will work, I'm just saying it may be a part of what's happening.

    Mar 03rd, 2012 - 05:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (24) WhiteCliffsofDover

    I “Think” your ideas are very much influenced by your ownership of RKH, DES and perhaps BOR shares.....

    Mar 03rd, 2012 - 05:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @24,25 I agree that these things aren't a coincidence. Although I agree these oil companies are used to working in some pretty pokey war zones, the only factor the Argentinians can use is to manipulate the political risk on the islands. Offering up three flights a week, is attractive to the oil industry, and the cruise industry to be fair, because it provides a huge number of bums-on-seats for their failing airline. Makes it a lot more comfortable for them to operate out of the FIslands.

    I think there are other things going on here though... if it becomes economic to have significant numbers of people flying out of USA, then surely a US carrier would be on the case.

    I guess something else is afoot, fuelled by the bitterness that FIslands might have oil.

    Mar 03rd, 2012 - 05:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • gaby11for

    GreekYoghurt Perhaps you don't know the difference between a man and a woman yet lol. Probably if you lived in Argentina you would learn a bit more but I completly agree with you that the governor apparience is a bit confussing and yes, Cristina is Miss Surgery.

    Mar 03rd, 2012 - 06:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    @24 Doveoverdover

    Any company, oil or otherwise, thinking of getting involved in developing the S Atlantic will not be planning on doing anything via Argentina. This can be taken as read.

    Hard nosed oilmen are not going to be moved by any such gestures by CFK, they probably know people who work for YPF. They also know the agreement of the Islanders is required for there purposes, and CFK’s is not

    I have no doubt you are right that CFK is trying to affect things in some way, I just doubt that she now has any influence whatsoever over the events in motion, in the S Atlantic anyway.

    Mar 03rd, 2012 - 06:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @27 So is it a man or a woman? I know they thinks they rule the whole of the People's Republic of Antarctica, but they could dress a little bit less ambiguously.

    Mar 03rd, 2012 - 06:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    No more cruise liners to argieland. RN interception and warn-off in international waters. “Hello, Captain. If you dock in argieland, you will be sunk when you leave. You might want to increase your lifeboat drills.” It's called “divergent ideology”.

    Mar 03rd, 2012 - 06:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    24 Doveoverdover

    From my short time in the oil business in Nigeria, NO oil company will regard CFK as an ally.

    If anything oil companies fly their people in to a large International airport and use private planes (who are far more pliable to the oil industry needs) to fly them into the local strip.

    I can easily see Uruguay MVD becoming a player here.

    Mar 03rd, 2012 - 06:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Millet

    Looking at the picture of Tierra del Fuego's governor Fabiana Rios, are all Argentinian women as poorly looking as Mrs. Rios? She looks like she still has a hangover from the night before. Perhaps, Mrs Rios will reimburse the tourism board with her own money to make up the $1,000,000.00 dollars they lost by banning the two ships..

    Mar 03rd, 2012 - 06:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Doveoverdover

    @25
    And I think your frequent use of EPIC TLAs and oil industry speak indicates that yours are too.

    Whether we do or we don't hardly matters. In my case I lived on the islands for periods in the 1980s and 1990s, have visited Chile and Argentina and worked in a political analysis role in the UN during the 2000s. This experience has had a more profound effect on my interests and thinking than the venal prospect of boosting the value of my SIPP (important though that is to Mrs dod and the little dods).

    And just to be clear. I'm a 100% supporter of the rights of the present FI population to determine their relationship with the rest of the world, a 100% supporter of Argentina's right to use diplomacy to advance its own interests under international law but, more fundamentally, I'm a 100% supporter of the value of discussion to understanding the other persons point of view as a starting point to help resolve conflict.

    You can see you stung me!

    Mar 03rd, 2012 - 06:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    I think KFC has a rule... all females in government positions must be fuglier than her.... a hard call be she seems to be managing that if nothing else.

    Mar 03rd, 2012 - 06:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Doveoverdover

    @31
    I don't think you can call Mount Pleasant Airport a local strip but I take your point. As a single gesture it will not make much difference, I just say it might be why its being done at this time with other similar gestures.

    Mar 03rd, 2012 - 07:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pepegalleta

    Hey you greek yoghurt are you a kelper?. If you want to talk about woman, let me educate you , we have beatiful woman here in Argentina, really beautiful, not like tha fat ass that you have in Malvinas

    Mar 03rd, 2012 - 07:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (33) Mr. DoveoverDover

    Well…………….
    If half of what you say is true, then I must say……..
    Welcome!
    Nice to have you on these pages!
    Your kind is sorely needed! (As you probably have already inferred :-)

    And just to be clear…..:
    1) I’m as poor as a church mouse.
    2) Even f I wasn’t, I would sooner slash my wrists open with an eraser than buy any speculative shares.
    3) My use of “EPIC TLAs” and ´”Oil Industry Speak” are just a consequence of its relevance in the current phase of the “Malvinas Issue”

    Looking forward to some intelligent exchanges….
    Respectfully
    El Think, Chubut, Argentina

    Mar 03rd, 2012 - 07:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Doveoverdover

    @36 One mustn't snigger and thus put off posters whose first language is not English but I can't resist the idea that you are beating your beautiful Argentinian wife! All I can say is that when Mrs dod was living there she was much admired for the pertness of her derrière.

    Mar 03rd, 2012 - 07:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @36 Sorry, where is Malvinas? I looked on a map and couldn't find anything called that.

    Mar 03rd, 2012 - 07:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Doveoverdover

    @37
    Thank you. If the flurry of initiatives continues into the next week as it has this one I think more exchanges are guaranteed. Meanwhile I'm now off for my supper.

    Mar 03rd, 2012 - 07:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JustinKuntz

    Miami?

    I don't think so...

    http://www.bis.doc.gov/complianceandenforcement/antiboycottcompliance.htm

    The antiboycott laws were adopted to encourage, and in specified cases, require U.S. firms to refuse to participate in foreign boycotts that the United States does not sanction. They have the effect of preventing U.S. firms from being used to implement foreign policies of other nations which run counter to U.S. policy.

    Mar 03rd, 2012 - 09:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Enjoy your tea......... and a good night for all you Dodos ;-)

    Mar 03rd, 2012 - 09:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @41 so what precisely are the Argentinians planning to do to coerce US and other based cruise companies in Miami that may or may not contradict US laws and policies?

    “The Cruise Industry has been warned and they will be 'gently reminded' in the near future in Miami”

    So what are the Argentinians planning on gently reminding them that will contradict US antiboycott laws? Can THINK be more explicit because we're all a bit stupid here.

    Mar 03rd, 2012 - 09:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @37LordHaughtyness,
    l think you're telling more porkypies.
    You live in the countryside l guess.
    You have access to a computer
    You have horses
    You have dogs
    You have been on holidays to Scandinavia & ltaly
    Then you say that “you're as poor as a church mouse”!!!!!!
    Unless you were telling fibs about where you've been & what you've got.
    ln either case l believe that you are handling the truth extremely carelessly.
    à bientot & have a good evening.

    Mar 03rd, 2012 - 10:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (44) Isolde

    Story of my life……
    Not enough with trying to keep all those sweet mature widows at bay…..
    Now I even got an uncouth, young infatuated British cyber-squatterette howling after my attention!
    What part of my “NO” don’t you understand, dear Isolde child?
    I know it’s difficult ma chérie, but…Try to forget me ;-)
    Sweet dreams to you too.

    PS:
    It’s an affluent parish

    Mar 04th, 2012 - 01:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Millet

    pepegalleta, you say Argentina has some good looking women. So far I have not seen any. Maybe all the ugly ones are in government.

    Mar 04th, 2012 - 03:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pepegalleta

    Or may be your taste for woman is the Uk taste that means fat ass girls,
    the problem is that if you live in those islands the only girls that you can see are all fat ass

    Mar 04th, 2012 - 03:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JORGE1982

    @46 Don't talk like that about our women. You have Susan Boyle there who is the average british women! LOL

    Mar 04th, 2012 - 05:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Now now, Mr. PepeGalleta
    That’s a gross exaggeration…............
    World famous kelperettes as D.H or L.W. have some quite well proportioned derrières….

    Mar 04th, 2012 - 06:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pepegalleta

    Go to Pinamar in sumer time and you ll see good butts, then you let me know

    Mar 04th, 2012 - 07:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    I imagine all Argie women look like Freddy Mills,what with all that wife beating going on there

    Domestic Violence Deaths Rise 40% in Argentina

    http://www.laht.com/article.asp?ArticleId=360379&CategoryId=14093

    Mar 04th, 2012 - 08:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Ay Ay Ay….Aysén

    As MercoPress doesn’t seem to be interested in publishing anything about the troubles in my beloved Aysén, I will do it….
    http://ilovechile.cl/2012/03/04/cruise-ships-cancel-visits-due-aysen-protests/49658

    Fuerza Chile!

    Mar 04th, 2012 - 10:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    So have we decided, is the self-professed ruler of all of Argentina's Antarctic Colonies a gentleman or a lady?

    Mar 04th, 2012 - 10:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    47 pepegalleta

    Well, as you have probably never been to Britain how would you know?

    But that is better than the fat headed Argentines who talk nonsense as you do.

    Have a bad day. :o)

    Mar 04th, 2012 - 12:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    Hmmm. Interestingly beauty in the Southern Cone seems based on how Northern European the woman looks. Just take a look at the adverts.

    Mar 04th, 2012 - 12:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    It seems bizarre and against precedent that the Argentinians insist on splitting the North Atlantic and the South Atlantic up into two geographical areas, simply to serve their expansionism. The British and Irish are island nations in the Atlantic. Other Atlantic Island nations include Iceland and other territories include, Canary Islands, St Helena, Ascension Island, Tristan da Cunha, Falklands, South Georgia, Orkneys, Shetlands, Faroe Islands, South Orkneys.

    Like in the Pacific, no one seems to say 'you're in the north pacific, so unrelated to the people in the south pacific' because they're all Pacific Islanders. The Atlantic Island nations seem to have far more of a close cultural precedent and relationship than corruptionist mainland South Americans casting their greedy eyes over the sea, to see what they can take, but to be fair, it does sound like the Spanish.

    Viva la fraternity between the Atlantic Islands, and screw the mainland corruptionist scum.

    Mar 04th, 2012 - 12:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Millet

    pepegalleta, I can read from your posts that you are a crude individual with a very limited vocabulary. - Millet USA

    Mar 04th, 2012 - 06:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pepegalleta

    Millet 57 , this is for you

    If I have a limited vocabulary is becouse english is my second lenguage, do you speak spanish or Italian?, if not, go and start to learn to use your brain, when you said crude, What are you talking about, becouse in all this mess the only ones that are crude are the Kelpers,
    Did you visit Sud America, Asia, Europe?, I did, then after you learn some basic other lenguage try to be far from me.

    Mar 04th, 2012 - 06:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Xect

    Pepegaalleta, I think by crude he is maybe referring your constant use of the word Kelpers which we know is disrespectful of the people of the Falkland's islands.

    Crude is often used to describe rude, disrespectful or uncouth language.

    You also say 'see some good butts' which could be described as crude.

    I hope this helps!

    Mar 04th, 2012 - 07:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pepegalleta

    59 Xect
    Kelpers is the way that British people named people from the islands, then way are you argued me about when the term KELPER. Why don t you go and ask british about it.
    To me are Kelpers, is the british deffinition

    Mar 04th, 2012 - 07:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @60 Actually we call them Falkland Islanders or Falklanders. But we call the Argies morally-vacuous ideologically-brainwashed untrustworthy sociopath liars, if that helps.

    Mar 04th, 2012 - 07:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Xect

    Pepegalleta, that was a nickname however a lot of people suggest its meaning is now something different and is disrespectful in the same way sassinak is to the English or the N word is to coloured people.

    Mar 04th, 2012 - 07:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    To be (a Kelper) or not to be (a Kelper)

    I had this discussion about the nick “Kelper” last year, with a turnip called Justin(hishead)Kuntz, aka Wee Curry Monster….

    He had written a Wikipedia Article on “Kelpers” in which he postulated:
    “This term is not used much by themselves, largely because it is used in a derogatory manner by Argentines; most prefer “Falkland Islanders” or even “Bennies”, a nickname given to them by British soldiers during and after the 1982 war.”

    During our debate, many real “Kelpers” expressed their appreciation for the nick “Kelper”
    (Actually, quite a few disliked being called “Bennies” by the “Whenies” :-)
    He later changed his Wikipedia Article on “Kelpers” that today reads:
    “This term is no longer used as commonly as it once was (largely because it is considered insulting by some islanders when used by Argentines). Instead most prefer “Falkland Islanders” or even “Bennies”. “
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelpers

    Truth is that I haven’t encounter (in real or cyber life) one single ”Kelper” that gets offended when called a ”Kelper”….

    Maybe some “Kelpers” in here would like to contribute with their opinion?

    Mar 04th, 2012 - 08:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    I can imagine being called 'fisherman' if you're a fisherman or 'taffy' if your welsh gets tiresome very quickly.

    However, calling people Argie never gets old.

    Mar 04th, 2012 - 08:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pepegalleta

    to me are still Kelprs

    Mar 04th, 2012 - 08:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    Comment removed by the editor.

    Mar 04th, 2012 - 08:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pepegalleta

    who told you that I like CFK?

    Mar 04th, 2012 - 08:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Millet

    pepegalleta, to answer your question---- actually yes I have been to Europe, Asia, Central America, many Pacific Ocean and Caribbean Island countries, plus South America, while I was in the United States Navy, and also later as a civilian. My favorite country, other than my own, was Italy followed by Ireland, and England. I speak very little Spanish, but I have NEVER been anywhere, in any country, that I could not easily get along in English. English is the world's language especially for commerce. - Millet USA

    Mar 04th, 2012 - 09:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @66 Conqueror,
    While l sometimes agree with some of your posts, l have to take issue with what you last said.
    Please show some respect for women.
    All Argentine women are NOT slags etc etc.
    And we don't need to know what you would do to them.
    Argentine women, in fact get some sympathy from me because they have to put up with would be warriors & macho-men.
    There are saints & sinners in every nationalities.
    l will heartily back you though if you confine your insults to stupid malvinistas.

    Mar 04th, 2012 - 09:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @67 you're a weak minded fool, that has been sluiced free of any individual thought. So of course you love KFC, and you'll type any lies you can to support her.

    We're not the stupid ones here.

    @69 the problem that Argentinian women have is that once they become women then they're all too old for Argentinian men.

    Mar 04th, 2012 - 10:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • mollymauk

    @64 - I have lived in the Falklands on and off for 25 years and am married to a Falkland Islander - I do not know anyone here who gets offended by being called a Kelper.

    @66 Conqueror - your posts are getting more and more offensive (particularly post 193 in the previous thread), you are getting ridiculous and sinking to the level of those you are trying to criticise, it does nothing to strengthen our position

    Mar 05th, 2012 - 02:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • tobias

    Ah, this thread is apodictic proof of the “gentlemen” essence of the British male, does it not? Needless to say, I have seen the Brits in action, both in London and on videos... they are just as respectful as any other western male; then there's the chavs.

    I could argue that the Mexicans and Russians have displayed more respect for women when typing online if I juxtaposed the comments here to those where such nationalities are present. And those are real “macho” cultures (Argentina is as much a macho culture in comparison to the rest of Latin America, as water is corrosive in comparison to battery acid)

    And lsolde takes the cake, I must confess (GreekYoghurt, Conqueror, et al are no surprise with their basement musings), with her instance of charientism—thanks for that actually, it allowed me to use that word:

    All Argentine women are NOT slags etc etc.
    And we don't need to know what you would do to them.
    Argentine women, in fact get some sympathy from me because they have to put up with would be warriors & macho-men.

    a) All argie women are not slags (but obviously most are). That is what we can conclude from this utterance, which lsolde so artfully foisted by surreptitiously lending credence to Conqueror's general idea in what appears otherwise to be a sincere rebuttal.

    b) And her sympathy stems from the fact Argie males are somehow outrageous characters in comparison to other nationalities... (which of course is a thoroughly baseless observation and completely confutable like few things in this website are).

    Is it not interesting that everyone here is a polymath about Argentina? To the solitary foreigner, all experts on its history, on its culture, on its Indians, on the women, on the men, on the economy, on the politics... The only expertise most here lack is honesty (to be clear, honesty in the narrow sense about their knowledge of my country).

    Finally, not everyone has proficient command of English. I find it tepidly haughty when some expect everyone to.

    Mar 05th, 2012 - 02:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pepegalleta

    is this the Malvinas and Uk democracy?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b04LxdCUZbk&feature=youtube_gdata_player

    Mar 05th, 2012 - 04:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (71) mollymauk
    Thanks for your (half-kelper:-) input.
    It corresponds and strengthens my previous beliefs.
    Kind regards
    El think, Chubut, Argentina

    (72) Tobias
    They are not only polymaths..............
    Most of them are very, very rich, have various degrees from the finest universities, travel constantly throughout South-America (first class, of course) and have many, many Argentinean friends ;-)

    Mar 05th, 2012 - 05:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @72 tobias,
    You read into it what you please.
    l was & am sincere in my sentiments.
    With an attitude & logic like yours, is it any wonder that we don't trust you & want nothing to do with you.
    Que horreur, what a collection of whackjobs.
    Are you one of those wouldbe warriors?
    l hear the squatter from the mountains chiming in.

    Mar 05th, 2012 - 06:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pepegalleta

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    Mar 05th, 2012 - 06:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • brit abroad

    Photos of CFK

    http://www.fanpop.com/spots/alf/images/7617779/title/alf-photo

    Mar 05th, 2012 - 06:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @76 pepegalleta,
    You are just as bad as Conqueror.
    Don't be disgusting.

    Mar 05th, 2012 - 07:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    A 'polymath about argentina' is a contradiction in terms. Polymaths are people who show exceptional abilities in several fields. Someone who shows exceptional abilities in one field is typically called an expert.

    Mar 05th, 2012 - 10:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pepegalleta

    79 that is way we have people working in Nasa, the best hospitals around the world, and much more, what people from the islands did? any NOVEL, ANY Nasa cientific?, any nothing from islands

    Mar 05th, 2012 - 04:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @80 I cannot understand what you just wrote. You were talking about Nasa and hospitals, but the rest was incoherent

    Mar 05th, 2012 - 05:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    80 pepegalleta

    And no abuse this time or I will report you again and have the comment removed. :o)

    Mar 05th, 2012 - 07:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • tobias

    lsolde,

    I don't want anything to do with you (more precisely, I don't need anything from you)... Which means I don't ever have to seek or require any contact with the Falkland Islands for me to be engaged fully in my country and with the rest of the world.

    The problem is, if someday my country's government does indeed mature and recognizes your freedom of sovereignty or at the very least places an indefinite parenthesis on the matter (for all your accusations and opprobrium towards me by you and all others here based merely on my nationality, which is racism by the way, I actually am on “your” side on the Falklands status), we will still not need you for anything. The question shall be, will you be able to pretend you can exist and be fully integrated to the outside world without acknowledging you need relations with your immediate neighbor.

    I read exactly what had to be read; I'm no an idiot that is all. That would be my opinion on one narrow opinion you indited, yet from this you not only seem to extrapolate how all my other views about life must be, but all other argentines? Because you see, you took my one critique of your post and made it out as the definitive guide to all things argentine psyche. Talk about tendencious, prejudicial nonsense (or trolling). :)

    You are in the end no better than the gaudy trollers, for calling us whackjobs for no reason except to insult and deride, and for burning your bridges with sensible people on the other side. You are just a more covert one.

    Greekyoghurt, my juxtaposition eluded you. Of course polymath stands for the definition you provided. As such, and since most of you only talk about Argentina 24/7, in that little world polymath stands for the fact you all swear to be unbiased experts in all the subjects and fields, disparate or not, of the country (economics, culture, politics, history, women, machos, environment). Trust me I've been in arguments in all those.

    The reality is that you are all full of it.

    Mar 06th, 2012 - 01:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    l think that you are fuller.

    Mar 06th, 2012 - 09:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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