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US urges Argentina to normalize relations with international financial community
US Department of State Assistant Secretary for Public Affairs Mike Hammer urged the Argentine Government to normalize its relations with the international financial community and confirmed President Obama’s administration intention of having “the best possible relations” with Argentina. Read full article
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Jul 27th, 2012 - 06:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0urges Argentina to normalize relations with international financial community = pay it's creditors !!!!!
Jul 27th, 2012 - 08:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0The current situation is pretty normal for Argentina's relationship with the International Financial Community isn't it?
Jul 27th, 2012 - 10:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Wild, random economic policies, protectionism, trade imbalance, non payment of debt, lying about inflation rates....sounds pretty normal for Argentina.
Because typical RG politicians are blowhards they have no idea how serious this really is, once USA starts to talk publicly about a problem that means they have reached the end of their rope diplomatically. I can see serious sanctions being implemented shortly.
Jul 27th, 2012 - 11:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0Didn't the Botox Bitch say “who cares about a few lemons” when we dropped them from GSP....yet they filed a complaint, apparently she cared cared more than she spoke.
Jul 27th, 2012 - 11:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0She needs plenty to suck on to maintain that look so was probably concerned about a shortage at home.
Jul 27th, 2012 - 11:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0@5 According to my Argentine friends she is well-known for making irrational outbursts in a fit of pique and then doing the complete opposite when her meds kick in. I asked them if it bothers them but they just kind of shrugged and said they don't take much notice of her.
Jul 27th, 2012 - 11:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yes my friends also said she seems to ramble senselessly when she bursts onto TV to say something meaningless. My friends are truly freightened by their future.
Jul 27th, 2012 - 12:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The USA needs to check on its own behaviour first.It armed Afganistan,Iraq, Iran,Eygpt and other countries.They supported Mubarack,Pinochet,and other criminal leaders.They created Al-Queda and supported it.
Jul 27th, 2012 - 12:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Clearly some of their judgements are directed at what best for them,interferring in the affairs of other countries(Honduras?),so any attempt to reconcile bi-lateral exchange must be viewed as of equal value,not as a criticism of another countries.
Unless its a threat of course!
I was checking hotel rates in BA yesterday. In the nicer hotels they cost roughly the same as NYC and 2x Miami!
Jul 27th, 2012 - 12:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How in the world in a country where on avg the people make 1/5 of what they make in USA charge the same in Hotels? BA is not NYC.
One night in a good hotel in BA costs as much as a typical RG makes IN A MONTH!! Gads.
It is no wonder tourism is down 12% yoy. I told the RGs a long time ago this inflation was going to kill their tourism and they were overbuilding hotels.
Oh well.
More unemployment on the way but who didn't see that coming!!
Stagflation...hyperinflation...depression
When the Americans are trying to be kind and to help you,
Jul 27th, 2012 - 12:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0One would have to wonder [why]
Are they really trying to be helpful to you, and genuinely trying to help you, give up the dark side of the force,
Or fattening you up for the butcher shop,
Perhaps if you listened, instead of dismissing everything they say,
You may well turn to the good side,
And stop acting like everyone owes you a favour,
They are giving you good advice,
They are asking Argentina to behave like a normal country!
Jul 27th, 2012 - 12:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@12
Jul 27th, 2012 - 12:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Might as well ask a pig to fly.
@13 -fully agree :)
Jul 27th, 2012 - 12:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think they have lived outside the norm for so long that they don't know the advantages of being inside. And you can see the drip, drip, drip of brainwashing cooming out in the posts from the Kirchnerites. They think they have no responsibility to settle their debts. Just as they feel no responsibility to pay taxes to develop their own country. I don't think the idea of the Social Contract ever took root with the CFKC supporters which is very strange as they claim they are socialists.
Jul 27th, 2012 - 01:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@9 You have to understand that argieland is a “nothing” country. Nothing it does can, in the medium term, adversely affect either the US or the UK. On the Falklands issue, it is an irritant. An irritant that could be “removed” in hours or days. Just think that 100 argie pesos = £14 sterling. US$22. I see the median monthly argie disposable income is £492.88. Close to a quarter of my British pension. Aren't argies poor? And that's why argieland is “nothing”.
Jul 27th, 2012 - 01:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have traveled extensively, and having recently traveled Argentina, I can say Argentina is literally the #1 worst managed country in the world. Considering its size and mineral wealth, it should be fairly well off, but instead its headed straight towards North Korea status.
Jul 27th, 2012 - 01:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina is a beat up old pickup truck doing 125 mph, and reality is a concrete wall, and two are about to meet.
Avg Rg wage is $3300/mo, if it is a real job ie Union Truck Driver or Teacher.
Jul 27th, 2012 - 01:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 03300/6.5 = U$550 /1.57 = 350 pounds a month for a full time job.
What for?? Doesn't Argentina have a national bank?? Last time Argentina got loans the Argentine population got stuck paying the debt for money Argentina never got. We learned our lesson and we will not be coming back to IMF nor will we borrowing dollars anymore ever if we can have a say, we are hoping USA will borrow pesos from now on.
Jul 27th, 2012 - 03:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Given the Argie propensity to think they lead the world in everything, how on earth does Hammer think they will ever change?
Jul 27th, 2012 - 04:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's like expecting a child to let you have their lollipop: it will never happen while a Peronist government is in place.
#20 Argentina did change can't you see?? Up to a few years ago it was Argentina begging IMF for cash and now not even USA can get us to borrow from them, Argentina doesn't need cash, Argentina needs to borrow from the national bank and collect taxes from every multinationals or liquidate their assets to the highest bidder. US is broke and jobless they need to collect interests on loans desperately.
Jul 27th, 2012 - 04:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@21
Jul 27th, 2012 - 05:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Unfair taxation and liquidating the assets of multinationals is a very, very short term (and short sighted) policy.
Ah Pirat, given what you've said what do you think about the billions of dollars you've borrowed and continue to borrow from the WCB?
Jul 27th, 2012 - 05:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hey as long as we stand on the other side of the US, UK, and EU, I'm good. If that means being outside the system, so be it. But never partners with those harmful countries.
Jul 27th, 2012 - 06:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Toby, The first thing you could do is to not speak our language and stick to your own. That would teach us!
Jul 27th, 2012 - 06:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Tell me, if you hate us as much as you claim why learn English? You don't need it to get along in Mendoza do you?
@ 10 yawningmouth
Jul 27th, 2012 - 06:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What the average USA citizen making the minumum wage $8.00 p/hour can afford? Getting in debt using credit cards.
$320 p/week= $1,280 salary is not enough to pay a $650 monthly rent, $600 on food, clothing, telephone, helath care insurance, transportation, cable tv.,etc.
A room in the most economical motel cost about @65 per day or one day work earnings.
A meal at any fast food restaurant just for one person is about $8 dollars.
Food prices keeps increasing every day.
Obama is unable to find economists to present a solution. The fact is that USA citizens are suffering Obama's inability to relieve the hunger the 24 millons unemployed and 26 millons american living below poverty level.
The Salvation Army is asking for donations of food and clothes for the USA disable veterans found in the streets begging for food.
The USA continued borrowing monies from third world countries like Bangladesh is shameful. The USA is sinking, can the UK bailout the USA?
Sussie, I doubt you live in the USA, you've probably have never been here. If you live here you obviously have a terrible job because you barely speak English. I will guess maid or cook.
Jul 27th, 2012 - 06:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My advice is, if you are really living here and don't like it is to go back to whatever 3rd World Sh*thole you came from. Nobody likes a whiny maid.
@19 Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. I can fish stuff that looks like argie pesos out of my toilet every day. And it's worth more!
Jul 27th, 2012 - 06:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@21 What's the matter? Hasn't CFK told you she wants a loan from the IMF? And you sticking up for her all the way from Canada! Well out of the way in the best traditions of argie turds.
@24 You don't stand “on the other side”. You squirm underneath. Where we can spit on you, and piss on you and crap on you like you deserve. Sorry, I forgot about Sussie. Still making only $10 a trick. Less than 7 tricks a day? You have to feel for her. It's tough at the bottom. Would she be better off back in “her” country? 10 pesos a trick can't be bad. Have you been down to see her? I'm sure she'd welcome you with open ........
How,lackeys to the carrot,does Argentina affect the USA.Who are the ones that are concerned.The Yanquis are scared of a dominio effect in south American refusal to be subservient to a troubled 'superpower' that is no longer at ease with its self.Multiculturalism and the growth of the former colonial states confidence in their own independence is unnerving the politicos of the yanqui state.
Jul 27th, 2012 - 07:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Can they not allow Argentina to take it own path unlike Ireland and Spain who attack their own people for the sake of the creators of failed economic theories.
Bow to your phantom masters you suckers,Argentina will protect its sovreignity
@27 yawningmouth
Jul 27th, 2012 - 07:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”barely speak english? Hey, I am bilingual. I don't need to work. I live in the USA and Argentina when I feel like it.
@28 ConQUEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
gg.Briton, 112 Tintagel Castle, Cornwal UK, Post Code PL 34 OHE, Tel.White Hall 1212 is arranging the R&R for you with Conor Lauden-Brown for you to ejaculate......puuuufffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
remember that can help you last another day, old man!
#22 don't forget accountable, efficient, legal, productive and healthy for the economy policy....
Jul 27th, 2012 - 07:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0lol unfair taxation?? Only in southamerica! is that a joke? Damn right short term (EFFICIENT ) policy. I guess you don't know what a tax sale auction is.
#23 I will like to know what happened with that money as well. Let us know how it goes and who's swiss account was the money deposited, am sure the bank has contracts to show for it, let's open the books. WCD? No deposit from them in my chequing account yet.
#24 well said boycott UK, EU and US. I hear China has one billion consumer's ready to fill the void, this is not even counting Pakistan, India or Russia.
Sussie, My maid goes back and forth to Peru often too, good for you. Her English is a bit better than yours though.
Jul 27th, 2012 - 08:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My advice is to stay in Argentina next time you go back. I hear it has become a Paradise over the last 9 years. You should put all of your available U$ into the Peso as the President recommends too.
Let me know how that is working for you in a year or so.
32 yawningmouth
Jul 27th, 2012 - 09:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You guys, the UK team “agents” keeps making wrong observations about me. The Arizona Republic stated that most USA citizens visiting the UK for the Olimpics simply cannot understands the UK english unacceptable way of speaking and repulsive accent.
It does not make any good for the UK team “agents” to keep picking on my way of expressing in english.
You want some one to pick on bad english, do it on former US president Bush. He could not pronounce, write or read english, but your former UK PM Tony Balls supported him for years. Now what you to say?
@11 briton
Jul 27th, 2012 - 10:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“...Americans are trying to be ...”
Actually, it's the US. People in South America are americans too.
keeps making wrong observations about me
Jul 27th, 2012 - 11:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Um No my observations are spot on. You are a 3rd world illegal. I can spot them a mile away.
You need to keep up with your ESL classes. Your spelling and grammar are simply atrocious. Do you want to talk to my maid?
BTW I am from the USA my family has been here since the late 1600s.
@25
Jul 27th, 2012 - 11:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The concept of learning for the sake of knowledge is clearly a WHOLLY foreign concept to your self. No doubt a product of your culture: if you see no financial benefit in doing something, it must a be worthless effort.
That may bring a society a halcyon period of illusory fulfillment through wealth (I won't deny such system creates wealth), but soon that period ends and you are left with an empty shell. That is what US society will end up as eventually unless it changes its moral center FAST. You see it clearly in how empty people's lives are becoming in your country, by the increasing mass shootings, teen suicides, bullying, depraved behavior. People eventually realize that working for the mighty $ generation after generation is meaningless if there is not a greater desire that transcends it.
I learned English for the same reasons I learned German, French, Portuguese and soon Chinese, to expand my world.
You have no idea what I'm talking about because it is like talking to a man who is blind and can't smell about the color of the sky at sunrise by the ocean with the smell of the sea at morning.
That's you... as a monolingual you trully live a handicapped life, you may object to what I just said all you want, say that you don't require another language, blah blah, but what I just said is COMPLETELY true and anyone who has learned another language will aver completely to my metaphore.
Hope that answered your question.
34 ArmitageShanks
Jul 28th, 2012 - 12:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0tell me something,
R U American,
or are you what you would like to be call A united states American.
are you an american , or south american,
you tell me,
ferkin hell, if you can not pay it back. don't ferkin borrow it, where i come from they call it fraud and throw you in jail!!!!
Jul 28th, 2012 - 01:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0@38
Jul 28th, 2012 - 01:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0Really? So where you live only the borrower is fully responsible for any wrongdoing?
Now I understand why banks in your country commit massive fraud, and a couple of years later DO IT AGAIN. They are immune from any prosectution as fraud by the lender is completely legal... it is up to the borrower to spot any skullduggery. Charming system.
Then you wonder why the UK's economy is contracting year after year for half a decade now??
“Hey as long as we stand on the other side of the US, UK, and EU, I'm good. ”
Jul 28th, 2012 - 01:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0.... because standing on the side of pro-democracy open government is BAD.
...because fighting National Socialism was BAD.
..because not “nationalising” companies when you feel like it, and paying your debts is BAD
Yes, I can see why your stance appeals T3... short-sighted, blinkered, ignorant of history and rather dumb.
You're CFK aren't you!? ¬_¬
@40
Jul 28th, 2012 - 01:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0You think you are open-government democracies, how cute. (looks askance)
You have no idea what your own government is doing at this moment. The atrocities only come out decades later when anyone prosecutable is dead. How open is that?
@24, only side you're gonna be on, is the wrong side of poverty
Jul 28th, 2012 - 02:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0You've got a MASSIVE wakeup call coming in 2013. I hope you've got weapons ready to fight for scraps of food in the street.
@42
Jul 28th, 2012 - 02:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0Oh yes, I'm ready to watch you in Europe and the USA fight for food next year. I have my choripanes ready.
Btw, we did notice the 'snub' of Argentina at the opening ceremony. Just because we don't give a hoot about the UK's petty usage of the OP to get at us, doesn't mean we didn't notice.
@43
Jul 28th, 2012 - 02:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0lol @ Argentina having to import beef from Uruguay, and tiny Uruguay exporting more beef than Arg for 4 years running now.
Yea, you got PLENTY of food...........
@44
Jul 28th, 2012 - 02:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0We are not interested in selling beef to other countries. Let the Australians, Paraguayans, Uruguayans, Brazilians, Russians, Americans, Japanese, etc, do that.
lol, well you won't have to be DELUSIONAL too much longer, reality is gonna kick the sh*t outta you next year
Jul 28th, 2012 - 02:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0@35 yankeeboy
Jul 28th, 2012 - 03:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yankeeboy stop with the elitist bullshit. SussieUS speaks rather good English as a second language and it's irrelevant what she does for a living, it's likely that she is not a domestic worker but if she was SO WHAT. It's an honest job.
As for the US economy and your useless president Obama, well....... Not looking so good pal. Your enormous government debt of US$15.8 trillion and your total debt of a staggering US$56.9 trillion has doomed your country. There is NO way to repay this money you will either default or pay it off through a drastic devaluation as it's dollar denominated debt. Either of these options will be catastrophic for the US and its people and if you thought that 46.5 million Yanks on food stamps currently was bad, well it's going to get a lot worse. So you may have to release your Peruana maid and do the dishes yourself.
As for the Argentine economy it is NO WHERE near as bad as the US economy. In fact the healthy central bank reserves their, perhaps high income tax rates and rather low Gov. debt, their somewhat reasonable industrial base, their enormous agricultural sector, their large agro industrial sector, their hugely abundant natural resources and their well educated and large workforce ONLY NEED A TUNE UP and two to three years of pain as they go cold turkey from a centrally planned, high Gov. spending and interfering model to a gradually opening free market economic model. With the right management Argentina could easily realize its enormous potential and at the same time propel the rest of the southern cone into an era of great development. It would be fantastic for us all.
Sadly for the Yanks I fear it may well be too late, the interest on the debt alone is a staggering US$ 3.8 trillion SO FAR THIS YEAR ONLY. In conclusion your days as an ELITIST are numbered pal.
@47
Jul 28th, 2012 - 03:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0Finally a post that makes sense. People here from all over the world harp on Argentina's economic inbalances, but high inflation and import restrictions are rather simple problems to tackle.
Europe and USA have problems that took DECADES to develop. In fact it could be argued that Argentina by not having “the benefit of the doubt”, was forced into crises more often which flushed out imbalances.
But Europe and the USA have been “kicking the can down the road” for 40-50 years through borrowing, and more borrowing, unsustainable pensions, unsustainable social programs, and a massively over-extended military machinery that costs the USA 1 trillion plus to maintain.
Their economic problems are far more intractable and difficult to write off because it is not a matter of changing policy like in Argentina, it is a matter of working through decades of postponed hard choices....
As Nouriel Roubini said... 2013 perfect storm for the north. South America will be fine, we are used to having lean years and are much more prepared psychologically. They aren't.
@48 Truth_Telling_Troll
Jul 28th, 2012 - 03:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0I agree with you. The Yanks have run a budget deficit every year since 1961 bar 1969 & 3 yrs from '98 - 01 (Clinton), that's 4 surpluses against 47 deficits. They have an atrocious record of fiscal ineptitude. These are HARD CORE structural problems that will need the destruction of the US economy before they will be attended to. The Europeans are in a better position and their troubles are only a decade or so old so fixing them will be easier. They are making inroads to fiscal consolidation and within the next 5 -7 years we will see them begin to grow healthily again. Argentina and to a lesser extent Brazil simply need to withdraw the governments interference in the economy and let markets set prices. Their problems pale in comparison to the US or Europe.
lol, USA prints gold, the US dollar, which EVERY nation uses for its reserves and for trade with other nations. We also have the greatest military in the world. We don't need to have surpluses or growth, we win no matter what.
Jul 28th, 2012 - 03:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0@50
Jul 28th, 2012 - 04:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0This is the part where everyone goes: “MWHHAAAHAHAHA”.
The greatest military financed by the China Platinum Card. Check the expiration date... pretty soon they won't need you.
@37 briton
Jul 28th, 2012 - 05:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0No need to get your knickers in a knot.
I'm neither US American nor South American. I'm European.
And I'm just pointing out the 'american' includes all of the continents of america.
What snub to Argentina at the Olympic opening ceremony? They were given the same TV time as the other teams and the team looked very happy and excited to be there.
Jul 28th, 2012 - 07:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0TTT why were you watching something you claim you and 40m Argentines have no interest in at all? BTW I was chatting to my Argentine and Chilean friends throughout the ceremony and they LOVED it. 4 billion people watched it.
Some interesting comments here.But you have to notice who is posting unrelated rubbish.Like the Olympic games is a key factor for relations within the financial world aside from its financial success.
Jul 28th, 2012 - 12:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yankeeboy is stuck in his superiority world because he speaks two languages,English and rubbish!eat your us$!
The centre of gravity is dispersing and India and China are very important and to do business with them is so much more important than doing what the yanqui wants.
It is not rubbish to say that the Olympics is also used as a venue for internation trade. It has always been that way. India and China are attenting the trade summits during the Olympics. Plenty of opportunities for meetings.
Jul 28th, 2012 - 01:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do you know that it you put enough influencial people together that trade and deals happen? The powerful countries are represented well at the Olympics event for a very good reason. If Argentina doesn't want to be a part of it, that's fine but don't try to make out it is not important from both a sporting and global trade point of view.
The Argentine athletes looked so happy and excited to be at the opening ceremony, why not support them and take a positive attitude to the event.
@55
Jul 28th, 2012 - 02:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You British are too slick. Argentina's flag was placed at the very bottom level of your flag “hill”, and not just in the bottom at the very back of that row. And not just on the bottom and back, but on the right side (of the hill), which faced the stands and thus blocked the view. The left side of the bottom was at at better angle. That was a very visible snub.
Argentina didn't send any government delegation to the Beijing OP, nor the Athens OP. It is standard policy, nothing about snubbing the UK there. The UK press and some brits felt snubbed because they have an exaggerated sense of self-importance... we had no obligation to go.
Again why does not anyone explain what evidence do they have to call it a snub, since people here love evidence. None of you have any, and the fact that this is normal procedure (so you can't even say well CFK went to Beijing or Nestor to Athens), gives your arguments zero legs of a table. It is thus nothing but a floor wood plank.
I watched the OP simply because I always watch it, to see what values countries have. Your ceremony was good until the children's bed time, then it just got too long and boring. I still don't get why the chopping of your forests was seen as something worthy of celebration. LOL
It wasn't a celebration it represented the major change in Britain during the Industrial Revolution. Before that the majority of the population was country based but after industrialisation we became primarily city based - and very much more wealthy. At that time Britain was the manufacturing capital of the world - like China is now.
Jul 28th, 2012 - 03:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Obviously, you were not going to understand all of the quirks of the show but it was representative of our history and what is important to us. You might have wondered about the large segment about the NHS but it really is something we treasure and hold very dear. Everyone, rich or poor, old or young, had access to free health care and the very best doctors. Danny Boyle was demonstrating a political point that no matter what austerity measures we make, we will not sacrifice the NHS as the public would not accept it. He also used the link with GOSH Great Ormond Street Hospital as the link to our literary heritage as J M. Barrie author of Peter Pan donated all royalties to the hospital.
I thought the music was great especially Arctic Monkeys but why, oh why do they drag out that old has-been Paul?
Then why all the fuss about Brazil, Indonesia, and China and their hewn forests? Can't they be wealthy too. See, that is the kind of hypocrisy which makes me dislike Europeans, and Americans. You say well those 3rd world countries (I mean those with vast poor populations like the ones mentioned above, not Argentina which is not as poor as people here pretend it is in comparison to the real 3rd world), need to do more, but when they do, which is use their resources and open up land... oh no, stop cutting the forests.
Jul 28th, 2012 - 03:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I still don't understand how westerners can be so double-faced and not see the incongruency of their beliefs.
Please no sermon on “well today it is different”. No it is not, to become devepoled you need to devastate your environment. And please no “but today there are other technologies”... who is going to pay for them, you in the 1st world? Ah, I thought so.
@30 Shall we give you “bi”? Anyone, anywhere, any time. How much is a “trick” these days?
Jul 28th, 2012 - 05:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@31 Everything in LatAm is “unfair”. Why don't you go there and find out?
@33 We prefer you. You're a real asshole. There I go mentioning your “product”!
@36 Actually, every time you type something you prove yourself to be a TiT. Look it up. Something on a female animal you can slap around. A small bird. Or a wanker. Who's a wanker?
@39 But we all know about argies. Every one of them is a thief.
@41 Wanna ask your government what it's doing? I can ask, and get answers, without finishing up in jail or dead!
@43 Me eating so much more than you can afford. Looking foward to seeing argies STARVE!
@45 Go eat it. We don't want your crap! Oh, and I have seized argie beef and had it destroyed.
@48 Love your comment. LatAm is about to DIE! And I will be sitting here laughing.
@51 China is heading down the tubes. It has chosen prosperity. But has no experience. Unlike the West. China will be going with rice and roots. And so will you.
@56 Don't be upset about the snub. It's just that we think you're sh*te. And you are. Your lack of understanding is simply because you're thick. Get it? T_H_I_C_K.
@58 You don't understand because you're T_H_I_C_K. You don't understand that Britain started from nothing and built everything. argieland didn't. Even Spain didn't. They stole. Just like you steal and try to steal. You are, without doubt, the most anal, belligerent, double-faced, genocidal, horrific, ignorant, lazy, mad, mendacious, neurotic, psychotic, queer, rapacious, stupid, tumescent, vicious, wicked states in the world. Do the world a favour. DIE!!! Return to the degenerate slime.
You misunderstand again. The removal of the tree was not an indication of deforestation but a change of scenery from the countryside to the city background. That's all. It was just a scene change showing that people moved from the countryside to cities, the countryside is still there.
Jul 28th, 2012 - 05:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You need to find something else to be indignant about.
LOL USA desperately trying their best to loan Argentina money, no thanks USA we aren't interested. Besides we have Venezuela to lend us petrodolars right here in mercosur. No need for IMF or WTO to try for a money grab we have friends in South America who could really use the opportunity and we Argentines will be more then willing to benefit them.
Jul 28th, 2012 - 05:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@57 Elaine
Jul 28th, 2012 - 05:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm sadly starting to agree - his voice is definitely past it's best. These people can't Botox their way to everlasting youth (I was temped to make a comment there but I won't)
There is a story going around that the organisers were trying to get hold of Keith Moon to play in the closing ceremony. Not sure whether it's apocryphal or not but a good wheeze nonetheless.
@59
Jul 28th, 2012 - 05:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not quite right in your history, unimportant britto.
You started with the Romans giving you law, roads, mail, running clean water, sanitation, trade, and defense, when they left you promptly and immediately reverted to digging holes for housing, drinking water from the animal manger, no trade, no literacy, and dumping your feces in the same water you drank.
Then at around 800 you wankers got hierarchical government and possible trade routes from the Angles, Jutes, etc, you cut them off and your island from the world again for another 2 centuries.
Then the Frenchies brought you back to the fold of civilization and enriched your language immensely, taught you how to dress, eat, and live “humanely”. You tossers didn't learn apparently since your cuisine is not renowned and your fashion deplorable.
Then the Spanish did the hard work of “rediscovering” the New world, as expected you went on your picaroon ways raiding the Spanish vessels for their treasure (which admittedly was itself stolen, but since when does two thefts make an honest living).
Then you louts persecute and expel religious heretics out of your island, you sent convicts to some other place to die, you take over what the Dutch had built somewhere else, and when they all make something out of their their lives in those places, you come in and claim that it was you Brittos that did it for them (USA/Canada), Australia, South Africa.
Of course not forgetting you also claim that it was Britain that liberated Argie, through some of the most anfractuous, tortured logic one will ever be subjected to.
And then we arrive at today, claiming to have built an empire that those whom YOU expelled built (and you then jonnhy come latelies came to North America, Australia, subjugated the Boors, etc and claimed it was you all along... to see what DIRECT British involvement in a country's development yields, see India), but in reality all you did was plant a flag after the hard work had been done.
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@57 ElaineB
Jul 28th, 2012 - 05:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's true - see http://www.metro.co.uk/olympics/898307-the-whos-roger-daltrey-reveals-keith-moon-was-invited-to-play-at-olympics
Sorry to be off topic
@ 64 Interesting. I still think they should have handed over to someone more current if they were trying to 'inspire a generation' as their slogan suggests.
Jul 28th, 2012 - 07:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#64 very interesting.You are sorry for being off topic but,
Jul 28th, 2012 - 08:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 01/who made you post off topic comments.
2/why do you go to a subject area that another poster raised knowing full well that it was diversionary(that poster even tried to link it to a political/ business event,when previously she had commented that politics should be kept out of sports).
It would seem that there is some agreement with Argentina's position and it aspiration to work toward a fairer terms of trade than merely what ever the yanqui wants.
@66
Jul 28th, 2012 - 08:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Dipstick!
52 ArmitageShanks
Jul 28th, 2012 - 09:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You’re European,
Then you should know better,
The only twist is logic,
We say Americans, and we mean Americans,
We say central Americans , we central Americans ,
We say, south Americans, and we mean south Americans,
In British,
You obviously are not,
Besides, from your point of view ho cares,
It this not true,
you interprit, we interprit.
In YPF oil not BP oil which you probably think is British.
Jul 28th, 2012 - 10:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Are you lacking in words or will all your post be so brief
#66.Its all a bad sign of a sulker.
you are 66.69
Jul 28th, 2012 - 10:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0lol the noob comments in here are hilarious, like saying India is taking over ROFL, india actually has scared investors away.....but then you aren't informed, ignorant ones.
Jul 29th, 2012 - 02:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0BTW, Argentine politicians ALL save in US Dollars, not pesos, proven fact.
Lastly, these retarded comments will soon come to an end, as Argies soon won't be able to pay their internet bills. This will become a very quiet forum in a year or so.
Oh yea, and last but not least:
Jul 29th, 2012 - 02:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0I just spent 2.5 months in Argentina, just 3 months ago, and I saw firsthand what a DISASTER it is.
When was the last time you ArgTards were in USA? oh yea, lol, you can't afford to go
Mastershakejb sells his US dollars to the highest black market bidder in Argentina......which happens to be Cristina herself buying my dollars for 7 pesos per dollar, ROFLMFAO
Jul 29th, 2012 - 02:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0@72-73
Jul 29th, 2012 - 03:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0No country is more of a disaster than this one
http://news.yahoo.com/3-shot-dead-pa-girl-taken-found-safe-135829942.html
Is that 6-7 mass shootings in 12 days or so??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate
Jul 29th, 2012 - 04:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0LOL once again facts prove your delusions wrong, Argentina has a higher homicide rate
#75 Are you another Wikipedia informed expert.Or is it that you think you are.
Jul 29th, 2012 - 12:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0India,China Russia and Brasil are seen as the motors of future growth and of the creators of greater demands on the environment.
#72 Your evidence of almost 3months of personal observation of life in Argentina is a useful additions to the true situation in Argentina.It is also good evidence of your viewpoint and the amount of information you find sufficient to make an informed judgement.
To both of you intelligent people,#72 K You shouldn't be so upset that some countries want to take a different road to the one your governments choose for you.Difference isn't always better but you can't be right all the time.And neither are you.
Argentina does not have to take advise from the Americans, or anybody else.
Jul 29th, 2012 - 01:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0she may well do as she pleases,
that way, CFK has only herself to blame if it all goes wrong.
sink or swim.
@Briton
Jul 29th, 2012 - 02:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0American are all inhabitant of the America continent (from Alaska to Tierra del Fuego).
“United Staterns” are the people from United States of North America.
America the whole continent from Alaska to Tierra del Fuego.
Sub continents North America, Central America, South America.
And this has nothing to do with language its just plain geography.
Who cares if the English say “Americans” and “South Americans”, it sounds dumb (since for there to be South Americans there must be North Americans), but if that is how they do it fine, it is irrelevant in its effect on Argentina anyhow, the language here is Spanish, not English.
Jul 29th, 2012 - 04:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In Spanish, you say “estadounidense”, and it is not a contrived term, it sounds perfectly natural. There is no such nationality as “american”, and since that is the language spoken here that is all that matters.
@61 If you kept up, you'd realise that USA is trying to persuade everyone NOT to loan argieland any money. Chavez is welcome to pour ALL his money down the argie drain. How to kill two dumb clucks with one outstretched foot!
Jul 29th, 2012 - 04:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@63 Is that your “version” of history, stupid? Didn't realise your “rewriters” had gone that far back. Pity you have to lie about Frogs and Dagos as well. Never mind. Go DIE all by yourselves.
@66 What would you know?
@74 What a drip! It so happens that the United States believes that its citizens should have the right to defend themselves. It's a shame that the UK doesn't believe the same. The people may have to stand up and demand that right. Argieland couldn't cope with it. Can't have the plebs able do something about what the argie politicos get up to. CFK would be dead in days. And the other muppets would last much, if any, longer.
@76 Are you another argie “informed” expert? How much of what you “learn” on the internet do you discount because it doesn't come from argieland? So many of the argies that get on here refuse anything that CFK doesn't endorse. Take the “issue” of the Falkland Islands. Why do argies insist on seeing nothing before 1833? Why do argies need to deny so much? Do you think argies might benefit from some honesty? Britain has had its low points. Some events we might wish had never happened. But that's a 21st century perspective. Were those events acceptable at the time? Who built no less than TWO empires? What has argieland ever built that compares? Look at the words of some of your compatriots. Desperate. Insecure. Hopeless. Grasping at any straw. Have you got any honesty?
@78 Some real people and two bits of “sh*te”. Anything else?
@79 Unfortunately “spanish” is just gibberish. The “language” of the poor and underprivileged. Of the ignorant who have never learned to communicate with proper people. Notice that, on here, you have to communicate in the most used language of the world - English.
78 DanyBerger
Jul 29th, 2012 - 05:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 079 Truth_Telling_Troll
You had to get technical,
As Custer was once told , [in the film]
The true Americans are little red ones over the hill.
Technically we are all earthlings are we not,
Yeh so who does care,
But then again, we are all galaxyiens are we not .
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Meanwhile, back on blog, and being political correctly,
The united states of America,, Americans ,
Are jus t giving advice .lol.
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@79
Jul 29th, 2012 - 06:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mr TTT, why do you think that Argentina was 'snubbed' at the opening ceremony of the olympics?
The flag of Argentina was placed at the most bottom level of that mound, and placed at the last slot of that bottom level, and placed on the right bottom back, which unlike the left bottom back side that faces more of the field, the right side is extremely close to a side wall.
Jul 29th, 2012 - 06:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The net effect is that it was the only flag of all 204 that was completely invisible in the television feed.
We got the message, thanks for thinking about us, as always.
@83
Jul 29th, 2012 - 07:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Are you sure about that? As I recall I could barely make out any flag on the hill as it was fairly small and the flags as a result were bunched up quite a lot. Not only that but the flags ascended up the hill alphabetically, with Zimbabwe being last followed by the UK flag and then the olympic's flag. So Argentine being one of the first flags on the hill would naturally be at the bottom, so I do believe you are overreacting quite a bit, but any way if the Olympics were being held in BA don't you think Britain would have been snubbed to a much larger extent? After all the majority of you Argentine's hate us British as a result of the hole FI issue. Were as in the UK the majority of the population aren't really aware of the issue so there is a much smaller chance of anything happening as regards 'snubbing'.
lol, for all the ArgTard's attempts, this is really not that difficult:
Jul 29th, 2012 - 07:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0USA/UK = wealthy....rich even
Argentina = poor
China is a growth engine, at the moment yes, India on the other hand has scared investors away in recent months, and their growth is shrinking fast. Yes I am far more informed on.....just about everything than you. Mixing facts I read, with real world experience having seen Argentina first hand for months, just months ago, I'm pretty much your resident expert on the matter.
Yawn!! Is USA desperately trying their best to loan Argentina money, no thanks USA we aren't interested. Besides we have Venezuela to lend us petrodolars right here in mercosur. No need for IMF or WTO to try for a money grab we have friends in South America who could really use the opportunity and we Argentines will be more then willing to benefit them. Good try
Jul 29th, 2012 - 07:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0USA, play again!
#80 Conker Ruhr
Jul 29th, 2012 - 08:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think you're getting upset.Its not good for your heart.After all you've lost two empires and become a satellite of the USA without even having a fight.Conquered by weakness.
#85 Your opinion of yourself is clearly greater than your ability.Besides the internet,which is a highly unreliable font of facts ect,I'm convinced that your unbiased experiences of Argentina are worthy of including on the Internet.A little more dross will be added weight to others who comment on Argentina.
We urge Argentina not to deal with IMF terrorists. They use our money to buy guns for terrorists.
Jul 29th, 2012 - 10:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=26686
but you are in canada,
Jul 29th, 2012 - 10:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0so they are not using your money at all,
and the only puppet on here is CFK to hugo the bear, with brazil pulling the strings.
yes they are and I don't want my money to support terrorists.
Jul 29th, 2012 - 11:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=26686
Chavez a good man get informed.
www.mcclatchydc.com/2009/01/07/59215/venezuela-reinstates-free-home.html
@GeoffWard2
Jul 30th, 2012 - 05:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0I don’t know if I understood you question...
But as far I know Argentina does not tax residents if they don’t have a business what produces some amount of income in ARG to them or properties that exceed the minimum value to be subject to “Bienes Personales”.
''The flag of Argentina was placed at the most bottom level of that mound, and placed at the last slot of that bottom level, and placed on the right bottom back, which unlike the left bottom back side that faces more of the field, the right side is extremely close to a side wall''
Jul 30th, 2012 - 08:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0If this indeed was indeed a snub to Argentina ... GOOD! Argentina is the enemy!
#91
Jul 30th, 2012 - 02:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina taxes it's citizens based on income, not only businesses.
I get a laugh out of those whom refer to IMF as terrorist. But then I suppose they can strike fear and terror into those who borrow money and suddenly realize they have to pay it back! What a travesity of morals......paying back borrowed money.
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