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There will be a Grand Prix in Argentina “when I can deal with serious people”

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There will the Formula 1 Grand Prix in Argentina “when I can deal with serious people” said the industry’s pope, Bernie Ecclestone following on Argentina’s aspirations to be included in the competition’s coming calendar. Read full article

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  • Boovis

    I'm sorry, Bernie, no serious people in the Casa Rosada, just some hispanic Miss Haversham like witch who'd rather run after lost causes than help her own people.

    Sep 24th, 2012 - 06:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • brit abroad

    I am not a great fan of Bernie, however round of applause in this case!

    Sep 24th, 2012 - 07:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Xect

    Good old Bernie as ever, saying it like it is.

    I've always enjoyed his open and frank opinions on racing even if he has often been highly controversial.

    Sep 24th, 2012 - 07:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Usurping Pirate

    In a few hours , there will be a camporista on here , claiming that Argentina invented motor racing in 1670 and that the British stole it from them .

    Sep 24th, 2012 - 07:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Idlehands

    Can you imagine what it would be like? With import and currency restrictions they'll probably insist that all the cars and teams source their parts and labour in Argentina and leaving fans will be frisked down at the airport for dollars.

    Sep 24th, 2012 - 08:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anbar

    “In a few hours , there will be a camporista on here , claiming that Argentina invented motor racing in 1670 and that the British stole it from them .”

    lolol

    Sep 24th, 2012 - 08:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Usurping Pirate

    Buenos Aires GP of 1973 . Local hero Carlos Reutemann leading by over 20 seconds , till he ran out of petrol .
    Sums the place up really .

    Sep 24th, 2012 - 09:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • malicious bloke

    @7, WE'RE WINNING!

    oops...

    Sep 24th, 2012 - 09:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin Woodhead

    More likely port stanley grand prix MPA to Stanley anyone? :)

    Bernie wants lots of cash up front and no akward questions about taxes

    Sep 24th, 2012 - 09:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    Who's here from the Islands? How about a suggestion to your Government? Do you have the roads? Would the Army help out and build a few in time for 2014? Wouldn't it be fun to get a F1 GP before argieland?

    Sep 24th, 2012 - 11:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Idlehands

    Why not just hold a GP in Antartica and be done with it!?!? Would certainly be a different spectacle than the usual dross.

    Sep 24th, 2012 - 11:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Sergio Vega

    An Argentine F1 GP would be an opportunity for the Southern Latam people who like the motor races to enjoy with this spectacle.....the top one of the world´s circus, BUT........with the bad present conditions that affect the country, not only in economics but in social stability it will be very difficult to have a chance of a race near us until some reliable Gvt. policies have been taken which means the change of the current for a progresive (right wing) one....pitiful, don´t you think....

    Sep 24th, 2012 - 12:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    we thought you argies wanted nothing to do with us,

    or is it the publicity you seek.

    Sep 24th, 2012 - 12:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    Such an elitist sport for CFKC to covet.

    Sep 24th, 2012 - 12:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Condorito

    Mercopress: “the industry’s pope, Bernie Ecclestone ”
    I wonder how Bernie feels about being Catholic?

    @4 like!

    Sep 24th, 2012 - 01:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    But Elaine, you overlook how progressive TMBOA is!

    LOL

    Sep 24th, 2012 - 01:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    I find it very troubling that the announcements of “what is coming” to Argentina from Prez that never materializes is astonishing! I don't know how she (her minions) can announce projects, events etc that will never come to fruition and her subjects never call these idiots out on it? They think talking about something is doing something. It is very very odd.
    They are a strange people.

    Sep 24th, 2012 - 02:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GFace

    Goodness gracious, we have someone to fill the lead role in the upcoming Penelope Pitstop movie! (Really that's an almost Dukakisesque photo op! And who knew that Andy Warhol was still alive - or ever was)

    Sep 24th, 2012 - 02:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    Bernie Ecclestone is a crook, unless one still believes that Tony Blair is a “pretty straight guy”...

    #18 Yes its a lovely picture, looking cool and glamorous in all she does =)

    Sep 24th, 2012 - 03:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Idlehands

    It would seem that CFK made the announcement at the time as a simple expediency. It didn't really matter weather it was actually true or not. Hosts have to pay F1 for the right to host an F1 event. Where is CFK going to get the cash for that? I'm pretty sure Bernie won't accept a lorry full of freshly minted pesos.

    Sep 24th, 2012 - 03:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    They do have to pay to host but generally walk away with a £20m profit per race. (If it is handled well) That is a lot of money to spirit away.

    Brazil do it well enough for SoAm.

    Sep 24th, 2012 - 03:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @19 She (It) looks like a pencil rubber. And we know where the pencil goes!

    Sep 24th, 2012 - 04:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • agent999

    “Getting Formula 1 back to Argentina is something we deserve in order to be able to show the things we have.”

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/98025

    We deserve it, it is our right, it is ours, we have treaties to prove it - what a deluded woman !

    Sep 24th, 2012 - 04:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ProRG_American

    So IFA joins the Argie bashing wagon now. Another crook yelling crook. Surely he must have had lots of stock invested in Repsol.

    Sep 24th, 2012 - 04:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    Bernie Ecclestone is at best a sharp operator and more likely a complete crook. A crook that CFKC is VERY keen to do business with. Unfortunately, CFKC is too corrupt even for Bernie.

    Sep 24th, 2012 - 05:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @19 BSK

    But wouldn't the crash hat look better if she had it on back to front?

    Ha,ha.

    @22 Conqueror

    But you wouldn't want to lick the tip after that would you?

    Ahh, what a thought!

    AND NOW: A MERCOSUR FIRST!!!

    THE NEW TRACK AND TRIAL RACE AT MER DE PLATA:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSaiaCDqIvs

    ENJOY!

    Sep 24th, 2012 - 05:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ProRG_American

    Lovely sense of humor ChrisR.. F1 will be back in Argentina. It's a matter of time. At least it is being talked about again when as before it was not even addressd for years. It will nbe yet another victory for the Argentine President.

    Sep 24th, 2012 - 05:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • agent999

    @27
    more wet dreams

    Sep 24th, 2012 - 05:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Leiard

    Hi Chris

    an even better view.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LlpzyVGGj4

    The big problem is that they will have to compete with National Sea Festivity, that culminates with the coronation of the Sea Queen and her princesess.

    Sep 24th, 2012 - 05:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    This would just show support for a dictatorship surely,

    Besides can you imaging the embarrassment for Bernie,
    When CFK thanks him and formula one for there support over the Falklands,

    The whole event if it ever happens, should be boycotted,

    Sep 24th, 2012 - 06:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brit Bob

    Well done Bernie . This is just another fine example of the deluded one in charge of Argentina.

    What, the UN is next - can't wait to hear about the meeting held in some obscure corridor and fed to the simple folk back home.

    Sep 24th, 2012 - 07:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Isn't it the responsibilty of the host nation to provide the winners trophy. I can seee it now, the winner standing on the podium and KFC handing him a silver plated plaque of the Falkland Islands enrgraved with the words Los Islas Malvinas Trophy!!!!! Thanks, but, no thanks,

    Sep 24th, 2012 - 07:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Steveu

    @30 it hasn't stopped him in the past (allegedly!)

    Bahrain is hardly a “friend of the people”

    Sep 24th, 2012 - 07:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • KretinaK

    Here in Argentina we are heavily protesting the Kirchner administration, their endless corruption in every corner of the government, stealing of public funds, outright lies to the public about everything from security to the economy to official inflation figures.
    Today we start a new protest in Argentina - it's called the “ANTI-KK campaña”. In our language “KK” is pronounced KaKa, and that is what we think of the Kirchner administration.
    We ask all citizens against the Kirchner “KK” regime to leave a bag of excrement or bring your dog to defecate on the steps of Congress, on the steps of the Casa Rosada, or in front of the door of any office of “La Cámpora” or another militant organization of this joke of a president called “Kolina”.
    Leave bags of excrement, or garbage or any other repulsive, non-dangerous item that stinks on the steps of or in front of any of these government related places. This is a peaceful protest, non-violent, and will send a strong message to the “KaKa” government that is destroying lives in Argentina.
    KK para todos en el gobierno!.......forum.iop.harvard.edu/content/public-address-her-excellency-cristina-fern%C3%A1ndez-de-kirchner-president-argentina.......This is how much her own people HATE her.......
    .......www.facebook.com/RepudioACFKEnNuevaYork#! .......http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyPC0SD0PGw

    Sep 24th, 2012 - 07:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    33 Steveu
    very true.

    Sep 24th, 2012 - 08:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ProRG_American

    Argentina: Supermarket consumption projected to grow by 5%

    Mass consumption of foods, beverages and toiletry products in the supermarket channel will grow 5% this year, predicted industry sources.

    “In volume, the increased consumption from supermarkets this year will be 5%” compared with 2011, said Daniel Fernandez Carrefour network president.

    “Retail is very competitive. Costs are stable if there is no reason to raise prices,” said Fernandez to the press when asked about the request made yesterday by President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner to entrepreneurs for more investment and price stability after announcing an increase in universal allocations.

    He added that consumption is good. “Prices are not moving up and down. The issue is the cost, where we must seek additional efficiencies.”

    On another note, he said the supermarket covers a third of retail sales in Argentina, which determines that is has potential for growth and expansion, the reason why it is penetrating the market with new formats.

    He said that even “in Brazil and Colombia, the development of the sector is greater”.

    On the supply of low-cost food, Fernandez explained that “our responsibility is to try to encourage access to consumption.

    ”This option exists since 2009 and we have been changing every 15 days through various menus. Ther are 40 products, 10 of which have subsidized prices through the chain,” he explained.

    Sep 24th, 2012 - 10:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    As Argentina heartily enjoys celebrating its defeats (although translated into RGtalk, all defeats are really victories), will the GP race track be called' Goose Green', where CFK will insist the Argentines won a great victory by storing Napalm, defacating in peoples houses instead of the toilets, and locking up the unarmed islanders for a month. (She might omit to mention the Parachute Regiment because according to Argentine history they probably lost the battle of Goose Green).

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 12:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • uruk

    @1
    Unlike Miss Havisham I do not foresee any repentance in K's way... but IMHO burn she will.

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 12:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    I love they way the Trolls (therefore, CFK) call Ecclestone “a crook” and Britain is their “enemy”, and “Argentina does not need them”.

    Now ProBed RG American says:

    “It will nbe yet another victory for the Argentine President.”

    LOL

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 02:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    “There will the Formula 1 Grand Prix in Argentina “when I can deal with serious people” said the industry’s pope, Bernie Ecclestone”

    Bernie Ecclestone said a few years ago that democracy wasn't effective and singled out Hitler as a strong leader, not to mention those British- Nazi style sex orgies.
    I agree, there will the Formula 1 Grand Prix in Argentina when we can deal with serious people.

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 04:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Boovis

    @40: Argentina will be able to deal with serious people the day they stop trying to emulate tinpot nutjobs in berets and faking cancer to get votes.

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 05:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Viva Las Falklands

    @ mark Alexander
    Surely you are confusing Ecclestone with Max Mosley!!!

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 07:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Xect

    Ah Marcos tries another inept swipe at someone who doesn't get on with Argentina.

    There's nothing like taking comments out of context eh? Bernie didn't actually do or say the things in the way you depict them. Not to mention the orgies were related to a member of the F1 staff and not Bernie (he's too old to have sex don't you know!).

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 07:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin Woodhead

    You could probably run a grand prix using bv205's the tracked snowmobiles like things the british army use to get around onion range mostly.
    It would slower but no less intresting than formula one:)
    Not sure the track side models will be quite as alluring bundled up in goretex though.
    Still more likely than formula one coming to argentina until argentina can come up with a suitcase of hard currency Berni will be taking his toys somewhere else.
    Syrain grand prix anyone?

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 08:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Truth_Telling_Troll

    Whether he has a point or not is irrelevant. Fact is, F1 has basically died in Argentina, the country of Fangio, because it has become too elitist, too aloof, to removed from the fans. They are Polo without the charm of horses.

    And the races are BORING.

    That's not something new in Argentina, it's been a process over the last 30-40 years. TC and TC2000 have completely displaced F1 because the fans are close to the action, the drivers completely accessible, and the races are exiting and always come down to the last laps, because of well-thought out rules.

    Add to that the Dakar and really there is not much place for F1 anymore.

    And this is not just my complaint, many fans of F1 have said they agree with me on all the points above, and want the sport to come back down to Earth and also tweak some rules to make it more exciting.

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 04:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Condorito

    TTT
    Were Argies in to Dakar before it moved down here?

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 07:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Truth_Telling_Troll

    @46

    Of course, into the Rally yes. You should know Argentina is a big rally racing country. A stop on the tour is in Cordoba each year since like forever.

    I also forgot to mention TC and TC2000 people can relate to, because they have the same cars and can tweak them. Can't do that with F1.

    I think it is the same reason why NASCAR in the USA is much more popular than cart now. People like to feel part of something.

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 07:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Condorito

    Dakar is popular here too, but mostly because since 2009 it has come through Chile (and Arg). I was questioning how popular it would be in Argentina if it wasn’t for the fact that it now takes place in the country. By extension, I guess F1 would be a lot more popular if it were held locally too.

    Local heroes help too. I can guarantee if there were a Chilean pilot on the podium in F1, it would be on the nightly news for an hour each day!

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 07:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Truth_Telling_Troll

    Rally has always been popular. F1 has declined significantly, though there are of course followers. TC has by far exceeded it though.

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 07:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Condorito

    I take your point on the aloofness of F1, but I still like it.
    It got predictable in the Schumacher era, but since then it has livened up a lot.
    Part of the attraction for me is that it is the premier event – there is no race where the cars go faster (round a track with curves), so you are seeing the best of technology, drivers and tactics.

    I would be in favour of making it no-holds-barred in respect to technology. The constructors have to hold back because of the rules, which I think is a shame.

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 08:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    @47 Truth_Telling_Troll
    “Of course, into the Rally yes. You should know Argentina is a big rally racing country. A stop on the tour is in Cordoba each year since like forever.”

    Since 2009 is 'since like forever'??? You must be very very young......

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 08:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Zhivago

    Troll
    I have to disagree with you, I went to two Argentine Grand Prix, during Menem's time and they were fantastic, a far better show than they put on here in Montreal. Obviously I have no idea how they made out financially but the fans were as enthused as any night I have been at La Bombonera. It really is a shame because Argentina did shine as a country during the festivities. Formula One is a little boring!

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 11:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    42 No I am not.

    Sep 26th, 2012 - 03:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Viva Las Falklands

    @ MA Oh yes you are!!!
    It's Max Mosley who is the nazi style orgy pervert

    Sep 26th, 2012 - 12:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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