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Argentine Coast and Border Guards conflict unchanged in its fourth day

Friday, October 5th 2012 - 06:10 UTC
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Argentine Border and Coast Guards members were moving into their fourth day of conflict despite the fact the government of President Cristina Fernandez had deposited their full pay-checks that had been ‘mistakenly’ severely cut, based on Decree 1307. Prospects are that the conflict could extend until Tuesday. Read full article

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  • Rufus

    But if the coastguards and border guards are on strike, who is going to harass the Falkland Islands fishing fleet?

    Oct 05th, 2012 - 09:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @1

    Nevermind the FI fishing fleet, who is going to enforce the dollar clamp on exiting tourists?

    You know, the one TMBOA says doesn't exist!

    LOL

    Oct 05th, 2012 - 10:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • KretinaKK

    Kretina's day of reckonig is coming.......stay tuned.......!
    www.facebook.com/events/467367073303989
    www.facebook.com/events/315644108534028

    Oct 05th, 2012 - 10:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    She doesn't want the people with the guns protesting.
    Knock Knock
    Please come with us
    Is Peron's island in Tigre still available?

    Oct 05th, 2012 - 11:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Idlehands

    Is this a window of opportunity to get your cash out of Argentina?

    Oct 05th, 2012 - 11:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    Ahhh now Falkland flagged ships you can storm into port!!!!!!!!

    Errrrrr, I forgot, there's nothing in the Argentine ports those ships need.............

    Oct 05th, 2012 - 11:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pgerman

    Ahhhh now Falkland, UK and Chilean flagged planes you can take advantage and fly over Argentine space and land !!!

    Errrrrr, I forgot, there a lot in the Argentine space those planes need.............

    Oct 05th, 2012 - 01:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Franco Álvarez

    You are all english fools, this is just a brief industrial dispute, will be gone soon and all will be back to normal.

    Oct 05th, 2012 - 01:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • brit abroad

    Im not english u twit

    Oct 05th, 2012 - 01:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    Anyone want to start a book on how long KFC has left...... gone by Christmas I reckon.

    @8 and 10 ... brief industrial dispute? Government employed people with guns protesting in the streets.... sounds like a serious breakdown in law and order to me.... but hey... you are used to that aren't you.

    Oct 05th, 2012 - 02:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Frank, I've been thinking something will happen when the “extra” salary payment is due in Dec. The Provinces don't have the $ to pay it. So they need to get it from Fed, if Fed denies it they'll have to print Script to pay it.
    Then it the financial crisis should hit home for every Rg.
    We'll see it is very hard to predict when a collapse will happen.
    She or Maximo may have an “accident” before the collapse too
    Who knows in a place like that

    Oct 05th, 2012 - 03:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @11 Yankeeboy

    Good thinking.

    I would hope if it's not the two of them they get rid of FatBoy, because his mother would give up and there is no 'Prince of Darkness' waiting to take over.

    Oct 05th, 2012 - 03:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JB

    My country is a wreck. Please read this amazing article by Danny Leipziger. It's great. Great summary.

    Tall order to erase Argentina’s errors

    From Prof Danny Leipziger.
    Sir, In your editorial “Cry foul, Argentina” (October 1), you are correct in your view that current economic policy is doing the country a disservice, but wrong in arguing that “it would not take much to put the country back on track”. Not so, unfortunately. On the contrary, it would be a tall order to reverse the cumulative negative effects of years of capricious policy making driven by the twin goals of short-term economic opportunism and the desire to inflict maximum damage on political opponents.

    The most conspicuous adjustment would clearly be to allow the exchange rate, overvalued by at least 35 per cent, to find a realistic market equilibrium without capital controls; this may be technically the easiest step, although it will be a shock to the already underreported inflation rate. Recognising the cumulative effects of inflation that is currently running, according to independent analysts, well above 20 per cent will have major fiscal consequences. It would require further adjustments to pensions and inflation-indexed domestic debts. Equally damaging for fiscal management and domestic politics would be ending subsidies for utilities that are unsustainable, but have become social entitlements. Even Argentina’s productive agricultural sector cannot finance these expenditures for ever.

    The next challenge would be to reverse the infrastructure deficit that is crippling the transport sector in particular, but also causing depreciation of the private sector’s capacity to compete. The energy sector is another area that will require time and effort in order to restore confidence and attract the investment needed to reverse the energy deficit that costs precious foreign exchange.

    The most daunting challenge, however, could well be to restore the integrity of institutions – regulatory, central bank

    Oct 05th, 2012 - 04:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Welsh Wizard

    @11

    Undoubtedly the Christmas bonus in December will be the sticking point. BA province didn't have enough to pay up a couple of months ago and it won't have enough again...add to that Cordoba, Santa Fe etc. Although, I expect that nothing much will happen. The governors again will say they can't pay, there will be a stand-off and then the federal govt will pay. I expect that the printing presses are getting warmed-up as we speak to meet the payment.

    Oct 05th, 2012 - 04:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Simon68

    13 JB (#)
    Oct 05th, 2012 - 04:00 pm

    Carry on.

    Oct 05th, 2012 - 04:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Welsh Wizard

    yup, don't leave us hanging like that. Poor show old chap

    Oct 05th, 2012 - 04:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • mastershakejb

    Come on out of the woodwork, out of hiding, Arg trolls! This is too funny to miss your added comedy, thou I can understand your reluctance to discuss this ;)
    mmmm savoring it

    Oct 05th, 2012 - 04:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Joe Bloggs

    10 Frank

    I can't decide whether I think she'll just be clean gone or whether she'll try the old lock-yourself-in-the-office-and-refuse-to-surrender-power trick first. That one's always good for a laugh.

    Whether she stays or goes makes no difference to me. As long as she leaves us alone like she currently is. Anyway, come late-October/ early-November she can do whatever she likes.

    Oct 05th, 2012 - 05:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Ayayay

    Ok, how is it a mistake AND a decree?

    Since it's a decree, then isn't it a 'mistake' of ....? Yeay legislative and judicial checks and balances.

    Oct 05th, 2012 - 05:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • MaxAue

    http://www.facebook.com/TruthTellingTroll?fref=ts

    Oct 05th, 2012 - 05:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @7 What?
    @8 Not unless CFK coughs up. She probably has enough cash in her handbag. After all, it probably all belongs to the argie people anyway!
    @18 I reckon this is an appropriate case to be resolved by a number of sky-diving “incidents”. Perhaps there could be a national argie government high or sky-diving event over the River Plate. No cheating with parachutes! So many possible events. Two and a half double somersault from 10,000 feet. Back flip from 8,000 feet. Swan dive from 7,000 feet. The concrete block handicap from 500 feet. Rescue boats and artificial respiration not available. But if argieland loses, it has to pay reparations to Britain for 1982. Let's say £10,000 per British serviceman killed! And £25,000 per Falkland Islander killed. Plus a straight £1 million for the invasion. And £50,000 per day for the occupation!

    Oct 05th, 2012 - 05:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JoJo

    @6 Pete Bog:

    “Errrrrr, I forgot, there's nothing in the Argentine ports those ships need.............”

    Actually I disagree. Come next year they should have lots of Barley, so we could import this to the Falklands and brew some beer and make whiskey :) May be good for a joint FI/AR business venture!

    Oct 05th, 2012 - 06:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    JoJo, I am sure they will be using the barley themselves to make up for the poor wheat crop, freezing weather and fields underwater is not helping with the planting very much.

    Oct 05th, 2012 - 06:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JoJo

    yeah perhaps, but a loaf of barley bread is just not the same as a nice pint of whatever

    Oct 05th, 2012 - 06:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ProRG_American

    This is just an internal matter resulting from the mis-implementation of a decree by misguided Nilda Garre, a left wing anti uniform, grudge holding guerrilla. Time for her to leave and bring someone like Puricelli in. A progressive and nationalist who is pro defense. Interesting, Mr. Puricelli opted out of implementing the same decree at all in the Defense Ministry.

    Oct 05th, 2012 - 06:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @25

    Ah! But that was only because he didn't know how TMBOA would take it if some of the Army turned up at Casa Rosada with a mean look on their faces and FAL fully automatic rifles at the port (by that I mean how they hold them). :o)

    Anyway I thought the Army had a rise this year, until you take inflation off.

    Oct 05th, 2012 - 07:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • atk357

    It looks like a knock-out on the 10th round. Imagine this....if the Army, Navy and Air Force decide to support their uniformed buddies...well it is all over for her. Will she last another 3 years? seriously doubt it.

    Oct 05th, 2012 - 07:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Ayayay

    But didn't the head of state have to -sign- it?

    Oct 05th, 2012 - 07:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • slattzzz

    I'd put the Falkland island defence force on alert now this has all the hallmarks of 1982

    Oct 05th, 2012 - 08:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @29

    Who says they are not already on alert? :o)

    Oct 05th, 2012 - 08:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • slattzzz

    good point

    Oct 05th, 2012 - 08:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ProRG_American

    29 slattzzz (#) How ignorant can you get?

    Oct 05th, 2012 - 09:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    I'm getting confused with Toby's new nicks.

    Oct 05th, 2012 - 09:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ProRG_American

    This will pass. No posts have been abandoned. This is the result of abuse of administrative loop holes that went arye, as it should have. Heads have and will roll continue to roll. Good thing that Mr. Puricelli had the foresight to avoid this on the Defense side.

    Oct 05th, 2012 - 10:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    @25 ' bring someone like Puricelli in.'...

    Hang on a mo.... I have to get in some beer and popcorn.....

    Oct 05th, 2012 - 11:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @34Arg_fakeAmerican,
    Puricelli is a raving idiot.
    You must be able to come up with someone smarter than him? No?

    Oct 06th, 2012 - 09:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    36. They should hire Toby/Guzz/ProRg...he is the smartest monkey in the zoo. I am sure he could take it all on with no problem.

    Oct 06th, 2012 - 11:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • slattzzz

    @32 not as fookin ignorant as you I was THERE in 82, fake american where were you numbnuts

    Oct 06th, 2012 - 01:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • KretinaKK

    More happy news for Argentina, soon they will be embargoed world wide!
    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/singer_hunt_for_treasures_eBCiGMJEn8gOYhkoux94EJ

    Oct 06th, 2012 - 01:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Looks like the asslips administration is telling the Coast Guard to kiss ass for a measly wage of a 100 bucks a month. With the RG navy at bay in Ghana, that pust the army in an ideal spot to end the slow, painful death to Argentina, if they even cared that is.

    http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/113761/govt-rejects-border-coast-guard-demands

    Oct 10th, 2012 - 02:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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