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Financial Times: Argentina-Uruguay: too close for comfort?
By Jude Webber - On Thursday 14 February the prestigious Financial Times published a piece pointing out the influence of Argentina on Uruguay and its economy. The article is simple and straight and is valid because of the Financial Times unquestionable opinion building capacity, and thus merits reproduction. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesUruguay will always be the second province in Argentina ..
Feb 15th, 2013 - 11:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am shorting Argentinean company shares. When the crash comes should be quids in.
Feb 16th, 2013 - 12:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0@1 Eff off you arrogant porteno. Just try it mate and you may find you have bitten off more than you can chew
Feb 16th, 2013 - 12:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0'Today, Argentina is imploding… the product of years of disastrous government policies heading for yet another full-blown currency crisis. And as the Argentine economy suffers, it is bleeding into Uruguay.'
Feb 16th, 2013 - 01:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0This^
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Feb 16th, 2013 - 01:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0”The tourism sector (Uruguay’s mainstay) is dominated by Argentine vacationers.“
Feb 16th, 2013 - 01:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0Malvinas dispute is a passion in the heart of a great great number of Argentine ”vacationers”. As we all know.
There will be a late spring/early summer when a proper strong direct call is made to specifically not allow cruises in any way associated with Malvinas into Montevideo. It will be front page in all Argentine and Uruguayan newspapers. With a S.A solidarity angle. 'Don't let us down good friends and neighbors' type deal.
The tourism cash implications will decide where Uruguayan loyalties lie.
And that'll be the end of 90% cruises to the ....islands.
(P+O excepted)
#5. Spot the obvious mistake in the name... clue 'It's a zero'
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Feb 16th, 2013 - 01:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0@7 Usual Sussie trick. She should really stick to her own professional tricks
Feb 16th, 2013 - 01:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0#8 utterly utterly pathetic, trying to hide behind another name, do one.
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Feb 16th, 2013 - 01:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0#11 C0nquerorConqueror
Feb 16th, 2013 - 01:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0Do ya see that, yellow?
6 vestige- what planet are you on? Montevideo is doing very nicely thankyou as a result of Buenos Aires silly attitude over cruise vessels.
Feb 16th, 2013 - 01:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0Mujica backs Arg claim- yes - but also he is on public record stating that he will have no part in any economic blockade as it would be against human rights.
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Feb 16th, 2013 - 01:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0What planet?
Feb 16th, 2013 - 02:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0You really don't see the connection between Arg's attitude and influence on small/medium Uruguayan tourist business - and falklands cruises reliance on that one port?
You don't think its a realistic scenario that if the opportunity arises the Uru govt opposition* might use such a possible event to swing votes?
*or next presidential candidate, he's 77 (i.e wont be coming back) and elected in 2010.
Montevideo is doing very nicely?
Nicely enough to laugh about a drop in tourism? (world first)
Granted its only a possibility - but - its a viable option.
New presidents due in both countries.
“human rights” quote not guaranteed to return at that time.
Which planet you say.
He/she doing what they always do, making threats, only he/she is forgetting why most of them are now going there in thethe first place! $US.
Feb 16th, 2013 - 08:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0Vestige shows not even a vestige of intellect if he / she thinks even Pepe is that stupid to endanger the cruise tourism industry: it's worth many times what we will get off the argies this year.
Feb 16th, 2013 - 10:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0Subsidised IVA, special rate for the arse wipe, special rates in hotels, special rates in supermarkets, all these benefits are not accessible by the locals.
It must have worked because I do not recognise the comment recently that there were fewer argie cars in Punta Del Este. I tried to park on Tienda Inglesia at the Shopping Centre and had a right job due to argies cars littering the place.
Why is it that not only can they not drive on the right but they cannot park their cars within the lines. Probably got something to do with their arrogant attitude.
@9 Does that involve ping pong balls in some way?
Feb 16th, 2013 - 10:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Vestige- try some facts then:
Feb 16th, 2013 - 01:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0One majot cruise line has already blacked all Arg ports because of their threats.
2 others have warned BA that if trouble continmues then they will move all their operations from BA to Monte or south Brazil next summer.
Puerto Madryn has made it clear it welcomes ALL flags etc - it is business!
Ushuaia this year has calmed down - has a “pirates” sign up - but quietly signs ships in and out to and from the Islands - it is Business.
Punta Arenas is getting increases in cruise numbers - and further port improvements underway.
get the real picture? - Buenos Aires are being silly.
@18 Steve Would know about the ping but the balls it posts certainly pong!
Feb 16th, 2013 - 01:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@1 Oh dear, yet another war you lost! Trying to grab Uruguay from Brazil.
Feb 16th, 2013 - 02:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@5 Not me. First time I've come to this article! Same for 8, 11 and 14.
@17 Have to admit that I would no more visit Uruguay than I would argieland. Same reason. Too many argies. At least where I live, there's little chance of an argie being within 40 miles. It seems Londoners aren't so picky.
In conclusion the benefits surpasses the minuses. All this reports challenging Argentina's self determination will only drive a wedge between the Latins and English, this is good for Latin Americans to open their eyes and confirm who their real enemy is. CIA is having a field trip with the cocain trade in Colombia and Mexico, while the english man is worried about the mighty economy and the dollars he sends to pay for his cocaine trade. I think drug trafficking is much more of a problem then the economy BS we get spoon fed, getba life people there are more important things to deal with like gun trafficking and drug trade.
Feb 16th, 2013 - 05:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yawn!
http://investigativereportingworkshop.org/investigations/gunrunners/story/romania-mexico-arizona/
What is it like horse meat?
Feb 16th, 2013 - 06:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.clarin.com/mundo/Enviaron-caballo-escuelas-hospitales-britanicos_0_866913448.html
Oh I figured I was next.
Feb 16th, 2013 - 06:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Someone could send me these stamps by mail? Prepay by “Paypal”, I have a verified account in USA ..
Feb 16th, 2013 - 06:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.penguin-news.com/index.php?option=com_flexicontent&view=items&id=507:falkland-islands-referendum-stamp-issue-released
@26 Philately will get you nowhere! ;-)
Feb 16th, 2013 - 06:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@24 you should know its sold in argentina as spicy sausage, salami, pastrami, chorizo, Some Argentine chorizos include other types of meat but not “typically” beef, along with donkey. oh didnt you know?? thats right your government has no checks on your food so you believe your eating beef, so you tell me how did it taste?? EEEEE-AWWWW!!!
Feb 16th, 2013 - 06:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Since Horse has been detected in ever so tiny amounts i have been buying burgers by the dozen as i have always wanted to try horsey burgers and personally i am glad this has come to light, Im sick of eating steaks,angus burgers, beef caseroles....
I want Horse! two thirds off the world are eating it, and the rest like XAVIERV dont know they are eating it.
@28
Feb 16th, 2013 - 06:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sorry to tell you but Europeans mislabelled the mislaballed beef. It is not horse but rather donkey.
@29
Feb 16th, 2013 - 07:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Confirmation of burgers for sale in BA
All our horse burgers contain horse meat, we do not add beef to our horse burgers.
Why do you foreigners always have to lie or bring stories about Argentina when there is bad news about your countries? Don't you find it a bit defensive and lacking self-esteem?
Feb 16th, 2013 - 07:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just admit you have f-ing problems, don't bring the problems of others in order to compensate by trying to say “see, you are also screwed”. It shows such lack of confidence.
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Feb 16th, 2013 - 08:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We've told you loads of times that of course we have our own problems and we discuss them, defend them, criticise them, cry about them. shrug our shoulders about them or whatever. All on the news sites that cover them You seem intelligent enough to find them yourself but let me know if you'd like some links.
However, this is Mercopress and its scope is the South Atlantic and in particular South America and the Falklands. That's why we talk about it. I only talk about Argentina because of its stance against my country. A stance I know you don't support.
Get over your self-pity and grow a pair.
@30
Feb 16th, 2013 - 08:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why should we not show lack of confidence in your country, it's going down the pan and you know it
The mere mention of the lunatic Simon Black in the financial time makes the whole article ludicrous. A homeless stateless paranoid schizophrenic like his contemporary in Argentina, Dave vonKleist. The sovereign man. Hahahaha. If he is so sovereign and America hating, why does he price all his whack job seminars with the US$? Hypocrite and liar. Shame on the usually unreliable Financial Times for having reached another low
Feb 17th, 2013 - 01:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0@30 Arifu/TTT
Feb 17th, 2013 - 01:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Just admit you have f-ing problems, don't bring the problems of others in order to compensate by trying to say “see, you are also screwed”. It shows such lack of confidence.”
We could say exactly the same to you.
God, this is exasperating. Shut the h£ll up!!
Every thread with you in it, has you goading the UK/US Alliance with wacko or inciteful barbs to get our attention or pity!
Have you no dignity???
You are like a child flopping himself down in a supermarket aisle, pouting or having a tantrum, “ look at me !! Feel sorry for me!! Everyone is mean to me!! I am smarter than you!! Why can't I have this???”
I think the response is, “if you want to be taken seriously, and you want to treated like an adult - act like one!”
Nobody is prepared to listen to you anymore. Nothing changes.
You threaten to “go away”, with a pouty,“ I'm gonna leave and never speak to you again, then you'll be sorry!!”, but you never do.
The next screaming fit is, “ we don't need you, Argentina doesn't want to play with you - go away!”
God, it's too funny, but you never stop.
Anglotino has seen you for what you are and has stated he'll never bother to respond again. The rest of us are about to follow.
Honestly, Ivthink you are so addicted to Mercopress and the attention here, that you can't live without us. How's that for irony.
Go get a girlfriend, or at least a hobby - snort cocaine, do anything!!
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Feb 17th, 2013 - 03:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0They've been crying all day today due to the fact I humiliated them this morning by exposing their puerile, prolix, and emotional multi-paragraph harangues for what they were: cries of impotence and sour sports.
Feb 17th, 2013 - 03:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0@36 TTT/Arifu
Feb 17th, 2013 - 04:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0“They've been crying all day today due to the fact I humiliated them this morning”
Sure you did.
How many times did we slam-dunk you today, alone?
Was it 3 ? or 4 ???
LOL!!
Good night.
Persecuting after me all over this site like you, yankeeboy, and Elaine are doing just further prove that I left you three with your noses bleeding and now like a poor child that lost the fight is trying to chase after the winner after the fight is over and is too late to recover your reputation.
Feb 17th, 2013 - 04:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0Little 1st world losers losing to a 4th world child that has never left his village, and who speaks English as a 3rd language.
hahahaha
Oh, such playful trash talk LOL!!
Feb 17th, 2013 - 05:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0Always the victim, right??
Desperate to save face much??
Need to save face??
Trying to impress Sussie?
Feel better, now?
Here is a recap of your most recent disgrace:
http://en.mercopress.com/2013/02/14/fitch-ratings-downgrades-argentina-and-venezuela-prospects-for-2013#comment218537
It's all good, but posts 65 and on are the best!!
Enjoy!
Don't dribble any Dulce de Leche on your shirt.
That's it, not wasting any more time on you. You can't change your humiliation.
Good night.
It used to be said that when the Argentine economy caught a cold that of Uruguay contracted pneumonia
Feb 17th, 2013 - 02:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0However the restrictive practices on imports by the Kirchner governments have forced Urugay to seek other markets for its products so while any recession will have effects in Uruguay hopefully they wont be as bad as last time, always provided that Uruguay follows a reasonable economic policy, something which seems to be in doubt at present
@41 Uh lookee lookee!! Another Argentine skarecrow!!!! Dressed in rags probably. What happens to you when the Brit crows shoot back?
Feb 17th, 2013 - 05:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@39 Keep chasing me like a wounded puppy... poor “soul” (word soul used insultingly loosely).
Feb 17th, 2013 - 06:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just give it up, I sent your reputation to ignominious irrelevance by calling you out on talking all this time about Argentina and yet never hearing about Havanna products.
Ever since then you can't let it drop and persecute me around this website, as any embarrassed moron looking to save face normally does.
Keep it up.
yawn
Feb 17th, 2013 - 08:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You act like your country is owned by a nearby broken fascist state, and what do you expect?
Feb 17th, 2013 - 09:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Chris R - you say a lot without actually making an argument.
Feb 18th, 2013 - 12:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0Islander - say what you will, but the islands' cruise business is in Arg hands if not for Montevideo. If they make a deal with Arg, which is not incredible, you can kiss those ships goodbye.
If a cruise company has threatened Arg in any way then thats a truly stupid decision, financial Russian roulette, if I had shares in them and they did that I'd be calling for heads. Arg will still be around if it loses a few cruise liners. Whereas a cruise company will lose a full country and possibly more given the mercosur....death for the business....or just an advantage to new rivals.
@46 Vestige
Feb 18th, 2013 - 12:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0“If a cruise company has threatened Arg in any way then thats a truly stupid decision”
How could they “threaten” Argentina.
The most they could do is chose not to call in Argentine ports.
Does Argentina feel “threatened”?? By a mere Cruise Line?
Sounds like YOU are threatening the Cruise Lines, and the Fslklanders.
Are you that spiteful, or that afraid of losing the business??
I bet you are having regrets now about your thugs and bully tactics.
You are very transparent.
45 Vestige
Feb 18th, 2013 - 10:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0I disagree, my post had far more considered thoughts and facts in it than your opinionated, ill thought out and Kircherist 'logic' drivel.
Even TMBOA cannot afford to have cruise ships passing AR by: where will she get her kick-back money from?
Also the cruise ships have alternative ports to go to: The Falklands (there are STILL no Malvinas you Twat), Montevideo, Punta Del Este and for the south the ports belonging to Chile.
You are not only very transparent but also very stupid.
46 - you'll have to ask islander how a cruise company could threaten/warned argentina.....he's the one who suggested it in the first place. ....lol
Feb 18th, 2013 - 08:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0oh yes I can see a punta del este to malvinas cruise and back being popular :)
@42 Poor snotty being chased like a wounded puppy. Poor diddums!! You been weaned yet puppy dog? Or has the rabid bitch who suckles you run out of milk? Only yourself to blame you arrogant mendocino juvenile deliquent. Whats happened to your thesaurus? Supermarket run out of toilet paper?
Feb 18th, 2013 - 09:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@48Vestige
Feb 18th, 2013 - 09:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“46 - you'll have to ask islander how a cruise company could threaten/warned argentina.....he's the one who suggested it in the first place. ....lol”
@45 “If a cruise company has threatened Arg in any way then thats a truly stupid decision,”
No, no, it seems that you were making a definite statement, and you were not using the word “warning”, either.
Are we to expect more 'retaliation' from Argentinian mobs for business decisions by cruise lines, again?
As Islander says, Uruguay won't participate in a blockade of the Islands. We consider Argentineans our brothers but most people in Uruguay don't sympathize with the Argentinean stance about the islands. Much less, with the Argentinean approach to get them. We don't sympathize with the idea of the UK claiming to control Islands so far it's mainland, either. But forcing people living there for generations to accept another rule, would be seem too rude and anti-democratic for the Uruguayan culture. It would be unthinkable for us. No matter this people is some millions or a few thousand.
Feb 18th, 2013 - 10:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@51 Nice post with which I entirely agree with
Feb 19th, 2013 - 12:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0@51 mCuezi
Feb 19th, 2013 - 07:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0“We consider Argentineans our brothers”
Argentina and Uruguay brothers?
We know that Uruguay is the smart brother.
51 MCuerzi
Feb 19th, 2013 - 11:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0“We don't sympathize with the idea of the UK claiming to control Islands so far it's mainland, either.”
But Uruguay and Argentina were controlled by Spain! From the south of the UK to the north of Spain is only 770 Km (478 miles).
I think you have a bit of a problem pushing that idea when the facts are considered.
BTW, ALL my friends in Uruguay CANNOT stand the Argentines, but there again they are all professional people capable of thinking for themselves not just banding together for some ethereal, fantastical 'reason'.
50 - childish nitpicking, warn, threaten....have a look at the context.
Feb 19th, 2013 - 10:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@47
Feb 24th, 2013 - 07:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0The WoW is accepting bribes again. Why is this allowed to continue?
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