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Timerman denies any Argentine government plot to discredit election of Francis
Foreign Minister Héctor Timerman rejected allegations about an alleged “discrediting operation” by Argentina’s ambassador to the Vatican Juan Pablo Cafiero to stop the election of former Buenos Aires city archbishop Jorge Mario Bergoglio as the new pope and denied that the government has changed its opinion about now Francis. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rules“We have never changed our position towards the Pope. We thought we had to take part in something that is a great honour to Argentineans and a great thrill for those of US who are believers,” Timerman pointed out.
Mar 23rd, 2013 - 11:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0So Timerman is now saying he's now a Christian and a Catholic. No wonder he was so eager to stab Israel in the back.
Gollum reminds me of the Vicar of Bray sir - something the trolls on here will have to look up, but with which the Falklanders and Brits are well aquainted.
Mar 23rd, 2013 - 11:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0Pope Belgrano is a force for backwardness, its absolutely right he should be an Argentine.
I met Timmerman a few years ago and he made my skin crawl. He is also plainly stupid and very arrogant.
Mar 23rd, 2013 - 12:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not heard Mr Pope make any public announcements on the Falklands yet, despite being asked to do so by his president. Her time is running out and her patience is wearing thin, she won't wait long for him to say something. More comedy to come.
Mar 23rd, 2013 - 12:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Shan't be loosing any sleep over this story; more Timmerman garbage, and showing up the Argentine regime for what it is - a slimy, double-faced, corrupt and not to be trusted bunch! Let's leave the Argentines to their own in-fighting - they are exceptionally good at it.
Mar 23rd, 2013 - 12:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“We have never changed our position towards the Pope”, said Argentina’s Foreign minister
Mar 23rd, 2013 - 12:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Look at the picture, look at the picture!!! Feel the warmth of his sincerity!!
I wonder why no one believes a word he says....
@4 He won't be allowed to say anything
Mar 23rd, 2013 - 12:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What are they scared of I wonder? Is it the spilling of many beans about the truth of how f**ked up Argentina is by a man who now leads millions of catholics and had many 'run ins' with the present RG Government, could be interesting, or there again, no surprises and not at all interesting.
Mar 23rd, 2013 - 12:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He looks tired.
Mar 23rd, 2013 - 12:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@3
Mar 23rd, 2013 - 01:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Those seem to be a prerequisites to get a job in the government!
@8
Mar 23rd, 2013 - 01:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How is Argentina BLEEP up my child?
It is now a very highly developed nation in humanity. I do not comprehend this compulsion for dishonesty by the British people my child. Are you ever capable as a people of truthfulness?
I will troll for you.
A Jewish catholic... More incense my boy, only 40 pesos a shot! Bet Belgrano is over the moon with new pals like Gollum and the reformed Botox Queen! Not pals because of any religious affiliation, no doubt just cosying up to popery to see what they can get out of it. #1 on agenda, get grubby little Rg mitts on those mythical Malvinas (and all that oil and gas of course) at last.
Mar 23rd, 2013 - 01:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sorry Argies you are stuffed... 1690 1765, 1833, 1850, 1982 and the islanders 2013 referendum.
11. Are you too young to remember how the last bout of Hyperinflation started?
Mar 23rd, 2013 - 01:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do you remember the Austral?
How many zeros were lopped off to create the Peso?
You are either blind or stupid not to see the path these Criminals have put Argentina on.
@13
Mar 23rd, 2013 - 02:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My child, do not hold grudges on those that refuse and will refuse for eternity to adopt your personal or national values and philosophies. Let others live as they so wish. May the only judge be the supreme O.
.......hope he can achieve a meaningful task for the region”.....
Mar 23rd, 2013 - 02:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thats not in the Pope's job description.
Oh Nostrils your new favourite toy is the HDI of Argentina.
Mar 23rd, 2013 - 02:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Firstly, its built on Argentina's false statistics. Do we wish to discuss those? Dent think so.
Secondly try and look at what happens to Argentina on the Inequality Adjusted HDI. Do we wanna discuss Argentineans inequality? Yeah didn't think so either.
Nice to see how high the 'Anglo' countries rate - especially mine in BOTH! You are the gift that keeps on giving.
PS: Why won't you reply to me on the other thread? You put so much effort into your initial post:
http://en.mercopress.com/2013/03/20/before-his-coronation-mass-francis-talked-to-the-catholics-gathered-in-plaza-de-mayo
Considering I am chasing you all over looking for a reply then it is I and not you that “will troll for you”.
OWNED!
Foolish child,
Mar 23rd, 2013 - 02:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Those were simple questions
Ask your parents and/or grandparents about the 70s and 80s and then post their reply.
BTW the Austral to Peso conversion was 10,000/1 you're far from that for awhile but not if CFK keeps printing. It only took them 6 years to ruin the Austral.
Maybe they'll come out with a Super Austral next.
@16
Mar 23rd, 2013 - 02:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh my child, I do know that the weakest form of argument is to discredit the opponent “statistics”.
My child, Argentina was in the same location in HDI even before any “number” debate could be lodged. Are you know saying the numbers have been falsified for 40 years?
Your hatred of Argentina is eating away your frontal cortex my child.
@17
My child, what concern is any of that of yours?
@12 js
Mar 23rd, 2013 - 02:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Vicar of bray... Haven't heard that hymn in donkeys. My fav... When a knight won his spurs...
@12. “A Jewish Catholic...”
Mar 23rd, 2013 - 03:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well, now this High Church Atheist has now seen everything!
@14
Mar 23rd, 2013 - 03:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Let others live as they so wish”
Oh you mean like the Falkland Islanders!!
Its clear some on the right are trying to make Francis to Latin America what John Paul II was to Eastern Europe; the difference of course is that while the Soviet bloc was authoritarian and falling behind, the Latin AMerican left is democraticly elected and surging forward, and it will take more than a Pope, god willing, to change that...
Mar 23rd, 2013 - 04:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#22 Surging forward ? Could that be into the abyss ?
Mar 23rd, 2013 - 04:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@22B.K.
Mar 23rd, 2013 - 05:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Welcome back B.K. had any more thoughts about C.F.K.the social democrat with 90 million euros in the bank????
Hahaha! Latam democracy = doshing out wholesale bribes to poor voters to get votes, that's not democracy that's bribery. Latams wouldn't know democracy if it hit them round the face like a wet kipper.
Mar 23rd, 2013 - 05:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As for surging forward, 30% inflation, price controls, fast depreciating peso, crime ridden streets, international pariah, cut off by IMF, aircraft and ships in danger of being impounded abroad, sounds like surging forward like Thelma and Louise actually. The abyss is waiting....
@11 You need to search for my explanation of your “illness”. It may help you to understand, temporarily, why your state is not a “nation”. Notably, your state is not part of “humanity”. There are differences between “you” and humanity. As an example, you should examine the pictures in this article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goblin Do you recognise yourself? But it is important to differentiate between the description and images and “gobbling”. An activity popular with many male argies with their male friends.
Mar 23rd, 2013 - 05:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@14 At last! You will, of course, be taking up arms to ensure that those who “refuse and will refuse for eternity to adopt your personal or national values and philosophies” are left in peace without interference. And that you have enough guts to ensure that “others live as they so wish.” There is such a thing as tacit approval. If you don't fight against a dictator, because “it doesn't matter to you”, then you approve the dictator. Much like the Germans and Hitler. “We didn't agree with that”. Okay, but what did you DO? Nothing. Guilty.
@18 Do you think the phrase “my child” gives you some sort of credibility? I think we can agree that you are a “credible” prick. “Incredibly” prickish. Or possibly a fart. How long do others remain in the same enclosed space with you? 30 seconds? 10 seconds. Do they upchuck when they see you?
@22 If you see moving from one state to another as “progress”, you are no doubt right. Much like moving from “stable” water to “steam”. Insubstantial and largely useless. Until put to use by intelligence. Sadly lacking in argieland. And the SNP. Do you think it would be useful to be able to spell “democratically”? How about thousands of pages of evidence from Alex demonstrating why Scotland won't be a basket case? Not that we English care. Argieland starves to death. Scotland starves to death. Who cares? Not us. On the one hand, we lose an incompetent enemy. On the other, we “lose” an incompetent. It's just “win-win”.
(24 toxictaxitrader2)
Mar 23rd, 2013 - 05:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say...:
“ C.F.K.the social democrat with 90 million euros in the bank”
I say...:
If you have ANY, more or less credible source for this “90 million euros” figure of yours, I would really, really want to see it.....
Would you please be so kind to give us a link?
Thank in advance
El think
Anyone wonder where FatMaxi got his U$2MM to buy his house without having a job?
Mar 23rd, 2013 - 06:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Out of Mamma's reported U$20MM
Nah
Probably a nice wire from Daddy's stolen U$380MM from Santa Cruz
Filthy criminals need to be dragged by their feet through the streets
Stolen $ is usually fleeting in Banana Republics you're only rich as long as you are in power.
#3 “I met Timmerman a few years ago and he made my skin crawl.”
Mar 23rd, 2013 - 06:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Btw I met an Argie in Britain once who knew him when he was young and said he was a very nice man; one reason I would like to see him stand for President if Cristina doesn't =)
#24 What Think at #27 said. But, if she has any Euros at all, she should probably convert them into a more stable currency, like Argie pesos, given what's happening in Cyprus...
#26 How many times do I have to say I don't support the SNP. I am in favour of the same side in the Scottish referendum as the Falklands one - voting No =)
#26
Mar 23rd, 2013 - 06:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hearing Messianic voices again are we ? Do we have a direct line to Queen Victoria telling you to go forth and reclaim the ENGLISH empire again with your English army, Navy and Air force. Are you sure that you are not in the pay of Alec Salmond to raise the YES vote. If you are the typical English man then God help the rest of your country. You won't have a friend anywhere - not even Canada, Oz or NZ.
You are a mirror image of Nos. A pretension of moral superiority with nothing to back it up apart from your own bitter prejudices.
@20 GFace
Mar 23rd, 2013 - 06:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“A Jewish Catholic” who is also cozying up to Islamic Iran.
You certainly have seen everything!
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Mar 23rd, 2013 - 08:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Timerman denies any Argentine government plot to discredit election of Francis
Mar 23rd, 2013 - 08:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Liar liar, pants on fire,
For the fact that he will refuse to indorse CFK and her inglorious empire building,
The CFK government will revert back to its old ways and try to embarrass the pope or ruin him,
Why not , she does to everybody else that disagrees with her,
And the pope is no different in her eyes,
You either agree with her,
Or she refuses to even acknowledges that you exist..
Who ?
What ?
Told ya so .lol.
.
Ouch
Mar 23rd, 2013 - 09:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0True colours shining thru ... Love to see CFK begging for scraps from the new Poe that her husband targeted... Love it true RG styleeee
first he's jewish ...now he's catholic... then he's jewish... what is shylock going to be next?
Mar 23rd, 2013 - 11:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0not unlike tony 'i love newscorp' blair who was any religion he felt like being in order to get more authoritarian power, finally settling on catholicism for the simple reason that he could buy indulgences.
In good King Charles's golden days, When Loyalty no harm meant; A Zealous High-Church man I was, 1 And so I gain'd Preferment. 2 Unto my Flock I daily Preach'd, Kings are by God appointed, And Damn'd are those who dare resist, Or touch the Lord's Anointed. 3 And this is law, 4 I will maintain Unto my Dying Day, Sir. That whatsoever King may reign, I will be the Vicar of Bray, Sir!
Mar 23rd, 2013 - 11:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#35 Anti-semitic (calling him Shylock ffs!) abuse, should be deleted. Also a lot of anti-Catholic bigotry on display, for one thing I don't think indulgences have been on sale for centuries! But perhaps the cruelest cut is to compare a man of integrity like Timmerman to the warmongering liar Blair...
Mar 24th, 2013 - 12:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Calling tinman a man of integrity is a joke in the largest order. Even peronists in Argentina(ever been there to ask a REAL Argentine bk?) think he's an embarrassment to Argentine's and that's bad. But never having experienced the Argentine culture, no reading does't count, you would not know this.
Mar 24th, 2013 - 12:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well, he would say that wouldn't he? Pelotudo de m----a!
Mar 24th, 2013 - 07:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0Just for Think.
Mar 24th, 2013 - 11:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.ripoffreport.com/federal-government/cristina-kirchner/cristina-kirchner-cristina-kir-dc9b0.htm
Whomever wrote that report doesn't like kretina.....lol. It sounds like the line of complaints I hear from my Argentine friends. Perhaps the writer is Argentine. When you buy something there, you get charged the sales tax, but few give you a register receipt so they do not have to report the sale and pocket the tax collected. If you ask for a receipt, they get all bent out of shape.
Mar 24th, 2013 - 01:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wow, the goings on in Argentina 'MythWorld' - Cretina - Wicked Witch of the West slimes her way into the Pope's office , Tinman slimes his way into Moon's office because of Never Never Land (aka the Falklands), Pope scandals and sub-plots, pacts with the devil (Amadinderjad)... make a great film!
Mar 24th, 2013 - 01:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“”But perhaps the cruelest cut is to compare a man of integrity like Timmerman to the warmongering liar Blair...“”
Mar 24th, 2013 - 02:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0crikey - I thought your puppet-master had forgotten about your account.
Amazing that I only mentioned it last week and “as if by magic” you appear.
Lucky us.
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The Pope made CFK crawl on her belly and beg for forgiveness.... and then said no anyway.
Moments later there was a lethal mud-slide in Argentina killing 14 people... but then they realized it was CFKs makeup running and Now TImmerman is blaming it on a foul British plot to undermine her.
A British spokesman said “There's no mine big enough to get under all that makeup!”
And the upturned Santa Fe would make an excellent South American office (like Queen Mary in Hong Kong harbour) for Universal Exports ... aka MI6. Damn it, I should be in the film business!
Mar 24th, 2013 - 06:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just to be clear:
Mar 24th, 2013 - 06:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0a) there is nothing anti-semitic about comparing this catholic to shylock.
b) You cannot feasibly call something bigotry if you don't know perfectly if indulgences are or aren't currently on sale. For pretty much the entire life of the catholic polytheistic church, they have been selling indulgences so without a reason for them to stop selling them, why would they stop?
Just so you're aware of your illogical babble.
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Mar 24th, 2013 - 10:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#41 I thought you said reading didn't count? Well reading that ripoff of a “report” certainly don't...
Mar 24th, 2013 - 11:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#43 “Amazing that I only mentioned it last week and “as if by magic” you appear.
Lucky us”
Don't blame yourself, pure coincidence. I've been drawn back by 3 huge stories on this board - the referendum, Chavez, and the Pope - perhaps if things quieten down, so may I...
“The Pope made CFK crawl on her belly and beg for forgiveness.... and then said no anyway”
Source?!
#45 ”Just to be clear:
a) there is nothing anti-semitic about comparing this catholic to shylock”
!!!
I get it now - looking at the picture it is obvious that the only way to shut him up is to sling him head first into the raging fires of Mount Doom. A silver dagger with a garlic motif will not be enough.
Mar 25th, 2013 - 12:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0BK it's probably from overworking and supporting myself, but I have no idea what....“ I thought you said reading doesn't count” ?
Mar 25th, 2013 - 03:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My statement about sales taxes and reciepts are based on first hand personal experience whenever I am in Argentina. They do not give you an itemized reciept automatically. And when you ask they get pissed off.
@47 And where are your definitive sources that indulgences are no longer put on sale by the Church of Rome, to people like Tony Blair?
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