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Growing frustration and recriminations in Uruguayan cabinet over economic policy
Relations inside the Uruguayan cabinet remain tense with some ministers in non-talking terms even when President Jose Mujica cancelled the Monday full ministerial turnout for three specific areas, security, social affairs and production meetings, which function every two weeks. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesWell its become quite clear that Mujica has spent his time in office concentrating more on Argentine appeasement, than the economic welfare of his own people.
Apr 15th, 2013 - 12:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What are you talking about?
Apr 15th, 2013 - 12:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Uruguay has not fared better since... ever!
Plan Ceibal, social programs, legal abortion, gay marriage, reduction of poverty, local production, employment...
What ARE you talking about?
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@2 What are you talking about? Did you not read the word “economic”? What has Plan Ceibal, abortion, gay marriage to do with the economy?
Apr 15th, 2013 - 01:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And here is the current profile of the Uruguayan economy. http://www.indexmundi.com/uruguay/economy_profile.html . So let's see;
the GDP - real growth rate is dropping year on year. Let's call it 18% of the population below the poverty line. Unemployment UP. Expenditures higher than revenues. A budget deficit. Industrial production growth rate negative. Current account in debit. Exchange rate headed back up again. And this is GOOD? Must have really been bad in the past. And two halves of government that don't agree! Excellent. And, along the way, your good “friend” argieland still isn't getting those channels dredged. Because it's in ITS interest not to.
Here's a thought. Are you too close to it? Do you, as we say, not see the wood for the trees?
Throwing money at poor people has never reduced poverty over the long term.
Apr 15th, 2013 - 02:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why don't these idiots know that by now?
How stupid are they?
Is the guy in the photo Charrúa or Puelche?
Apr 15th, 2013 - 03:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He looks implanted. Cacique K should act on behalf of all Latam against this colonist threat.
Not many Charrúas left, Condorito.
Apr 15th, 2013 - 04:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'll tell you the story.
Back in 1816 a lot of things happened in the southern cone. Argentina declared independency, the Brazilians were 6 years from doing so. That means a very unstable period in the area.
In Banda Oriental, declared 1810 and what would finally be Uruguay in 1828, there was war too. Two characters that are very interesting in this regard, are Fructuoso Rivera, caudillo from San José, and general José Artigas, Montevideano.
Rivera fought under Artigas until 1820, when Rivera joined the Portuguese side that currently occupied la Banda Oriental. That very same year, Artigas was exiled to Paraguay and never saw his birth place ever again. 2 years later, Brazil delcares independency and Rivera joins the Brazilian ranks. During this period, he founds the Colorado party. In 1825, Uruguay declares independency and Rivera switches side again. 1826 he escaped to Santa Fé, he was sough for having switched side, again. When finally gains independency, 1828, he returns. He gathers old friends, Charrúas and Orientales, Uruguayan all, and marches towards Montevideo. 1830 he is elected President.
1931, in Salsipuedes (literally Get-out-if-you-can) he gathers all Charrúas under the deception that the land is to be shared. He offers them wine to celebrate their victory. When drunk, they kill the men and spread the remaining women and children in order to kill not only their people, but also their culture and their languge. Something he was successful with. He then sent his niece, Bernabé Rivera to kill those who declined to attend the meeting.
Our prócer is José Artigas. He was another type of man
Just look at his Escudo Federal
http://www.chasque.net/vecinet/Escudo_3.jpg
Look at the scales.
To the right, a sword. To the left, a bow.
To the right, a drum. To the left, an arrow.
The wreath is half laurel, half pitanga.
And on top of it all, a crown of feathers.
“Back in 1816 a lot of things happened in the southern cone.”
Apr 15th, 2013 - 05:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They certainly did. And a lot of things happened in the 300 years previously. It is a nice escudo that, a token gesture to the original inhabitants is far better than the open celebration of their subjugation (as per your southern neighbour) - at least we have that in common.
That was no token gesture Condorito, that escudo is from before Salsipuedes.
Apr 15th, 2013 - 05:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If that little rat of a shapeshifter wouldn't have had as much charisma as he had lack of balls, Uruguay could've have seen a Charrúa actually play football...
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Apr 15th, 2013 - 06:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well it is a sad story.
At least your Artigas got to live out his days in a country that has maintained much of its indigenous culture, language and heritage intact.
I can only take comfort in that I've never agreed on Colorado politics. Not then, not now.
Apr 15th, 2013 - 06:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We've lost many battles to the oligarchy in the past, but that particular one, was a costly one.
Returning to the subject, it seems Mujica's losing control. The real bosses of the Frente Amplio are the Communists, despite their small number of votes.
Apr 15th, 2013 - 08:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@6
Apr 15th, 2013 - 10:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Back in 1816 a lot of things happened in the southern cone. Argentina declared independency”
But Argentina was not formed till 1853??????????????????
Interesting post though.
Argentina declared its independency from Spain 1816, the fact that some military juntas followed, makes it hard to talk about independency.
Apr 15th, 2013 - 10:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0One thing is when you declare independency, another is when you gain it.
Either way, it's not a particular day that does it, it's a process over time.
Stevie aka Guss,the Denmark skulker
Apr 16th, 2013 - 12:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yes Rivera was a turncoat and should not be honoured in our country
Before you condemn the Colorados as oligarchs
it was old Pepe Battle who introduced the welfare state to Uruguay on the back of the wool boom. Teachers were retiring on full pension at 28 years old at that time
Old Battle y Ordoñez... yes, good man. Another Colorado worth mentioning would be José Pedro Varela.
Apr 16th, 2013 - 01:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0But that's also it, isn't it?
@12. Argentina declared independence in 1816. But then there was war between the provinces and Buenos Aires as there was no agreement on whether the country should be federal or not (the provinces wanted a federal country, Buenos Aires didn't so they could keep ALL the revenues from the port). During that time, each of the provinces was its own independent country. The Constitution was signed in 1853 by all provinces except Buenos Aires, which joined Argentina in 1861 after Buenos Aires was defeated in a war.
Apr 16th, 2013 - 09:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 016 Magnus perhaps Buenos Aires could be “persuaded” to secede from Argentina? Not many of those who the porteños call provincials have much love for the arrogant people from the current capital of Argentina
Apr 16th, 2013 - 10:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0redpoll
Apr 17th, 2013 - 12:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0I take that comment back about José Pedro Varela being Colorado. He wasn't. He merely served under a Colorado regime...
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