Defence Secretary Philip Hammond has become the second cabinet minister to say he would vote for Britain to leave the EU if a referendum were held now. But, like education secretary Michael Gove, he said David Cameron must be given a chance to bring powers back from Brussels before deciding. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesTwo Tory ministers prepared to vote for Britain to leave the EU
May 13th, 2013 - 04:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0Leave Argentina too, go home.
Marcos
May 13th, 2013 - 06:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0There is no British territory within 300 miles of Argentina, it used to be not within 1000 miles, but you decided to colonise Patagonia in 1880 and massacre the rightful owners.
When are Argentina going to withdraw from Patagonia, or even Buenos Aires and go home to Italy or Spain?
Retard!
Bye Bye Europe.
May 13th, 2013 - 08:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0VOTE UKIP!!!!
What are you talking about, you silly little boy? Is this a reference to your stupid idea that, somehow, the FALKLAND ISLANDS belong to argieland? That's sad. Because it's been proven, many times, on here that they don't. Nor will they ever. Argieland should be grateful. A few hundred miles away, there is a country setting an example that argieland could aspire to emulate.
May 13th, 2013 - 10:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0What has this got to do with the Falklands? Lol
May 13th, 2013 - 10:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0It seems some elements of the Tory party aren’t out of touch with the people after all.
Europe is a mess, even the Germans know it hence printing deutsche marks just incase the euro collapses. I can’t wait to cast my vote if we get the chance, I’d crawl to a voting station on my hands and knees and vote to leave the EU if I had to.
Get that anchor off of your next before it drags you down.
May 13th, 2013 - 12:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What a horrible failed experiment
I hope EU gets dismantled rather quickly before it is in chaos.
Allowing, through democracy, politicians to voice their own opinion contrary to that of their party in government is a concept largely unknown in South America.
May 13th, 2013 - 01:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Even in Europe this can be a career-limiting move, but it IS important. It flags-up the degree of disquiet with government policy which, in the UK at the moment, is grappling with the unconstrained 'freedoms' written into the Maastricht Treaty of the EU.
The UK Parliament is in the hands 0f a governing coalition and this means that the running of the countries is a lot more complex that the luxuries of simplistic solutions proposed by UKIP - a party without a single member in parliament.
People like simple exhortations promising simple solutions but, in Europe (the UK is part of Europe), they normally have sufficient sophistication to vote for parties that stand a fighting chance of running the countries of the UK, etc.
Yes, it is messy but it is messy within the rules and guidelines of a thousand years of governing proceedures. The EU has - for better and for worse - rocked the boat of UK governance.
Life is not easy anywhere in the world at the moment, and the Developed world is wrestling with problems at least as intractable as those here in South America.
In out-in out-shake it all about
May 13th, 2013 - 01:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0do the right thing and pull right out
and leave em to go down the drain.
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they will be better of without us,
their is no logicle point in dragging and pulling a screaming nation into something it just does not want to go.
they like us not, so we would be better happier and british running our own country.
let us start afresh, and go it alone,
and make argiland and spain worry with fear..
This is a fishing exercise by Gove and the other twat at the behest of Camoron, nothing more. Gove is of course the best mate of The Failed One.
May 13th, 2013 - 03:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Cameron must be given a chance to bring powers back from Brussels before deciding. is the key to this charade. Promising a vote AFTER the next election is easy to do because the Cons WON'T BE ELECTED.
Camoron himself says today in the Daily Telegraph “The problem with the status quo is I don't think that the status quo in the EU is acceptable today, and he still does not get the ire of the people towards NOT having a “YES, we stay in” or “NO, we leave immediately” vote right now, not in several years time because that will never happen.
And the reason the politicos don’t want the vote is very simple, they want the gravy train to keep going full speed ahead.
@7 What does it matter that UKIP doesn't have a single member in Parliament? Do you listen, or read, what Richard Branson says? How about the Governor of the Bank of England? How about Barack Obama and Vladimir Putin? Ignore everything they say, do you? There is a principle called Occam's Razor. The simplest answer is probably the correct one. Think!
May 13th, 2013 - 04:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@8 Agreed. Without the restrictions imposed by the EU, half of the Spanish Navy and the boats of the Guardia Civil would probably be rusting at the bottom of the Bay of Gibraltar. No such problem with argieland. Their boats sink themselves!
@9 You think? Sorry. Let''s make that...You believe? Can you not conceive that some British politicians have started to listen to the British people? I realise that concept may be difficult for you. After all, the attitude of most latino governments toward their people is What can we con the numpties into next? Since I'm here and you're not, take my word for it. The people of Britain are getting progressively more angry watching £53 million a day being pissed down the drain. The British are not prone to revolution. But if we are pushed too far.........
@10 Conqueror Guess what revolution will happen in 2014?? Possibly the end of the UK? Perhaps. Good thing is that we won't have to put up with the shite from Westminster, and the hurled abuse from people like yourself ;) . Want to know another good thing? There's a significant chance that the UK won't be recognised as a continuing state, and if that was the case, you can kiss goodbye the permanent seat at the Security Council, something that pro-unionists dearly love.
May 13th, 2013 - 05:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Conq. #10, re #7
May 13th, 2013 - 06:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0try explaining why my argument is over-complex.
A promise from a one trick pony is usually worth less than the trick,
and believing that Farage could build an electable party, win an election, manage the dismantling of the Union, disengage the British Isles from the European Union, and govern England to a profitable future is like chanting I DO believe in fairies. I do! I do!
Only one person in my lifetime did it and he created his own circumstances; of course his name was Hitler.
come come
May 13th, 2013 - 06:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Inpatients is a virtue not a right,,
2014 , wait and see,
Enough said on that one..
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EUROPE
Mr Cameron says= let me be mosses, I will climb mount imposable and bring back
The impossible, ??
Now who can count, just my opinion,
26 nations and one
Does he really believe that France and Germany and the rest are just going to sit there and say OK Britain,
We will do this, but Britain will do that,25 nations will obey these rules, and Britain will not,
25 nations will do that, but Britain will not,
Utter crap, we will do what the rest agree to, or we will leave,
Nobody and we mean nobody is going to allow great Britain to have special privileges whilst the rest have to follow the rules, anyone who thinks we are a special case is nuts,
Mr camaron should give us this referendum before the next election,
How can he defend democracy but deny us this right,
Why do others have a vote, but we are denied this right.
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Sod Europe we need out, and the billions and billions we save can be spent on the british people, British hospitals , roads , railways , British industry , shipbuilding ,steel and the rest of it,
Now who the hell can disagree with that, British money for British interest.
Just my opinion.
10 Conqueror
May 13th, 2013 - 07:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0WTF are you going on at me for.
Have you actually read my post @9?
Oh! these stupid Brit politicians turn to be more fun than a concert of The Clash
May 14th, 2013 - 08:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0Should I stay or Should I go?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1vwKZiDsY4
At least The clash could fill an Stadium ha ha
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1vwKZiDsY4
Take a decision and leave us alone please, UK is like these hysterical girlfriend always saying...
Look I gonna leave, I gonna leave...
Uff come on leave ASAP please and we will save a lot of ink and text to read about Brit wanting to leave from EU.
BTW how long do you thing Argentina will wait after you leave the EU to invade the Island again?
2, 3 days perhaps?
Anyone know what he is going on about?
May 14th, 2013 - 01:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0nope
May 14th, 2013 - 06:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0his on the funny fags again.
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