Members of the United States Congress have sent letters to Secretary of State John Kerry and US Attorney-General Eric Holder calling for the sanctioning of Argentina for its ties with Iran. Read full article
I recall your words Yankee. However, Kerry was my Senator and as useful as tits on a bull. However....the chants against Argentina are starting. But tobi does not mind losing 28 billion a year in exports to the USA.
Obama is politically on thin ice in the USA with the public, republicans and the world. He needs to be very careful in his actions over the next few months. It's going to take a near miracle for him to turn around and considering supporting Argentina in the SCOTUS action, assuming SCOTUS takes it will be the final straw.
We won't. Embargoes don't work in this day and age. And the USA is not the economic power it used to be. In the 50s and 60s, when you were 55% of world consumption perhaps a US sanction was fatal, but today that you are only 18% of world consumption and dropping each year, you can't do anything without the support of AT LEAST Europe-UK, but better yet Russia, China, Mercosur, and Asean/Japan, as well as OPEC.
Notice how you had sanctions on Iran for many years but only when they were really tightened (and the Europeans and Japanese joined in by banning oil imports), did the Iranians really start feeling anything.
Look at Cuba. 50 years of sanctions and no change in policy, since first the USSR and then Europe and today China invested there.
The chances of such a tight worldwide set of sanctions against Argentina, a democracy that grants full rights to women, minorities, children, gays/lesbians, handicapps, indians, etc... and that has no nukes or controversial weapons programs, and are essentially 0.
Oh yes, like Obama will begin sanctions against Argentina at the moment, when the whole of S A is openly bating the US about being spied on. What we can expect from him is an extended period of cringe worthy ass kissing to smooth things over with them.
Tobi the tit sucking troll get out of mendoza and see the real world. Hell....to to cuba, venezuela or north korea and take a look at tomorrow's argentina.
Of course the USA is not what is once was in pure trade power, the world developed (save for argentina). However the USA is a 2.8 trillion dollar export market for most countries in the world. That figure alone is more than the sum of a hell of a lot of countries combined GDP. You are foolishly immature to think that countries in the world scoff at the USA market. When you combine the USA market with the EU.....your are talking 1/3 of the world......free world should I say.
As for sanctions.....cuba survived ONLY from the USSR, then they collapsed and venezuela supported them.....again never has cuba supported themselves. Sanctions on cuba will be gone in two years and markets systems will flourish like Chian. Yes and we see how well you ally iran is doing. You need a wheel barrel of rials to go to buy eggs.
Wake up, grow up and get of momma tits.....you always get drunk off her lactations.
sometimes the jewish community make a great disservice to the united states. heck they are the reason the united states has had *allies* and *enemies* for the last century.
whilst other countries pursue interests and common ground with nations around the globe the united states congress spends its time worrying about argentina's commercial links with iran.
perhaps if most of our agricultural products werent bound to restrictive access to the US market then we wouldnt have to go selling to iran in the first place.
@6 Just as a matter of interest, how do you think Italy, where you thieved its citizens' money, Spain, where you stole a company, and the UK, where you invaded its territory, held its citizens hostage and started a war, are going to feel? Perhaps you'll understand more when you get to 15 or 16 years of age!
@10 You have a lot of growing up to do. Who can tell what motivates the US Congress? But, day after day, argieland shows itself to be rogue. There will be Congressmen who remember, and didn't like, the invasion of the Falkland Islands, there will be others who don't like the seizure of YPF, there will even be others who don't like the deceit of the argie debt restructuring. There will be others that dislike the posturing of CFK and Tinboy. Then, the Americans demand quality. What does argieland do? It contaminates its crops with chemicals, it contaminates its livestock with drugs, it probably has difficulty inserting tongue A into slot B. Iran is currently being sanctioned and argieland weasels its way around. It might be complying with the letter but not the spirit. Get rid of viveza criolla http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viveza_criolla
Try things like honesty and integrity. How long will it take you to look those words up and comprehend what they mean?
Troneas.......you have a 474 billion dollar GDP and sold 28 billion to the USA alone.....that's almost 6% of your entire GDP to the USA alone. How much do you need to export to the USA that we keep hearing you do not need?
10 Troneas
perhaps if most of our agricultural products werent bound to restrictive access to the US market then we wouldnt have to go selling to iran in the first place.
The Dark Country: ALWAYS THE VICTIM!
FFS grow a pair, shoot TMBOA and her crooked government and find somebody, ANYBODY, who understands the International Law and is prepared to stick to it.
Oh, oh, just seen the flaw in that: YOU DON'T HAVE ANYBODY, DO YOU?
@13. how is trading with iran not compatible with international law? please enlighten me here because i have studied international law and i fail to see how what argentina is doing here is illigal.
or are you bringing up the self- determination issue? if you feel that understanding international law means giving up sovereignty over the south atlantic islands (inhabited or not - as is the case with S. Georgia and S. Sandwich), im afraid every single future president of argentina will not pass your criteria.
14 I think you will find that the problem with Iran is not trade or recognition . The problem put simply , so that you can understand , is that Iran wants to produce a nuclear devise to destroy the State of Israel . Which happens to be a democratic country and member of the world community . They have the right to practice their faith as we , or any other country , has . We have fought some horrible wars for that right .
We really know Argentina's position regarding jews and Israel. Can you imagine how it would look in the eyes of Iran if kirchner attended the memorial service? Argentina might not get any rials.
16 .Nice one ! Could it be that , once Iran has a nuclear weapon , Argentina , Brazil, Uruguay and Bolivia will buy one. Paraguay will be full of US bases ! !
@15. iran wants a nuclear device so that the united states, which has military presence all around them (iraq, kuwait, saudi arabia, israel, turkey) doesnt bombard them to the dark ages just like they did with iraq. its the same reason why isreal has nuclear weapons - because they are surrounded by pissed off arabs of your constant land grabbing by expanding settlements into palestinian land... that and treating them like second class citizens on their land.
well the united states wants the oil flowing and hence stability in the middle east; and have shown they wont hesitate to use military force to get what they want.
Iran-contra affair, in U.S. history, secret arrangement in the 1980s to provide funds to the Nicaraguan contra rebels from profits gained by selling arms to Iran
”The Iranian government considers Israel a “Zionist entity” (as well as the United States) and ignores its existence. Not only that: it believes it must “disappear from the face of the Earth” as President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has said.”
did a Zionist write this?, talk about propaganda.
umm.. its like the no-ones hear of mutually assured destruction (MAD)?
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Disclaimer & comment rulesI recall your words Yankee. However, Kerry was my Senator and as useful as tits on a bull. However....the chants against Argentina are starting. But tobi does not mind losing 28 billion a year in exports to the USA.
Jul 15th, 2013 - 04:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Obama won’t listen,,
Jul 15th, 2013 - 06:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He likes her,
The only time he feels like an action man-
Is when he is standing next to a Barbie doll..lol.
Argentina aiding and abetting the rewriting of history?
Jul 15th, 2013 - 06:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How very dare the US suggest such a thing!
I demand a 100% Argentinean nuclear missile system to defend the glorious honour of the fatherland.
The UNSC is going to be a barrel of laughs if the US thinks CFK is now Iran's bitch.
ouch , ouch,, more more ..lol
Jul 15th, 2013 - 06:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Obama is politically on thin ice in the USA with the public, republicans and the world. He needs to be very careful in his actions over the next few months. It's going to take a near miracle for him to turn around and considering supporting Argentina in the SCOTUS action, assuming SCOTUS takes it will be the final straw.
Jul 15th, 2013 - 06:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@1
Jul 15th, 2013 - 07:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We won't. Embargoes don't work in this day and age. And the USA is not the economic power it used to be. In the 50s and 60s, when you were 55% of world consumption perhaps a US sanction was fatal, but today that you are only 18% of world consumption and dropping each year, you can't do anything without the support of AT LEAST Europe-UK, but better yet Russia, China, Mercosur, and Asean/Japan, as well as OPEC.
Notice how you had sanctions on Iran for many years but only when they were really tightened (and the Europeans and Japanese joined in by banning oil imports), did the Iranians really start feeling anything.
Look at Cuba. 50 years of sanctions and no change in policy, since first the USSR and then Europe and today China invested there.
The chances of such a tight worldwide set of sanctions against Argentina, a democracy that grants full rights to women, minorities, children, gays/lesbians, handicapps, indians, etc... and that has no nukes or controversial weapons programs, and are essentially 0.
You want the executive branch to help out with the appeal and you do what?
Jul 15th, 2013 - 07:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Too deep for me to figure?
Oh yes, like Obama will begin sanctions against Argentina at the moment, when the whole of S A is openly bating the US about being spied on. What we can expect from him is an extended period of cringe worthy ass kissing to smooth things over with them.
Jul 15th, 2013 - 07:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Tobi the tit sucking troll get out of mendoza and see the real world. Hell....to to cuba, venezuela or north korea and take a look at tomorrow's argentina.
Jul 15th, 2013 - 08:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Of course the USA is not what is once was in pure trade power, the world developed (save for argentina). However the USA is a 2.8 trillion dollar export market for most countries in the world. That figure alone is more than the sum of a hell of a lot of countries combined GDP. You are foolishly immature to think that countries in the world scoff at the USA market. When you combine the USA market with the EU.....your are talking 1/3 of the world......free world should I say.
As for sanctions.....cuba survived ONLY from the USSR, then they collapsed and venezuela supported them.....again never has cuba supported themselves. Sanctions on cuba will be gone in two years and markets systems will flourish like Chian. Yes and we see how well you ally iran is doing. You need a wheel barrel of rials to go to buy eggs.
Wake up, grow up and get of momma tits.....you always get drunk off her lactations.
13 or 14?
sometimes the jewish community make a great disservice to the united states. heck they are the reason the united states has had *allies* and *enemies* for the last century.
Jul 15th, 2013 - 09:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0whilst other countries pursue interests and common ground with nations around the globe the united states congress spends its time worrying about argentina's commercial links with iran.
perhaps if most of our agricultural products werent bound to restrictive access to the US market then we wouldnt have to go selling to iran in the first place.
@6 Just as a matter of interest, how do you think Italy, where you thieved its citizens' money, Spain, where you stole a company, and the UK, where you invaded its territory, held its citizens hostage and started a war, are going to feel? Perhaps you'll understand more when you get to 15 or 16 years of age!
Jul 15th, 2013 - 09:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@10 You have a lot of growing up to do. Who can tell what motivates the US Congress? But, day after day, argieland shows itself to be rogue. There will be Congressmen who remember, and didn't like, the invasion of the Falkland Islands, there will be others who don't like the seizure of YPF, there will even be others who don't like the deceit of the argie debt restructuring. There will be others that dislike the posturing of CFK and Tinboy. Then, the Americans demand quality. What does argieland do? It contaminates its crops with chemicals, it contaminates its livestock with drugs, it probably has difficulty inserting tongue A into slot B. Iran is currently being sanctioned and argieland weasels its way around. It might be complying with the letter but not the spirit. Get rid of viveza criolla http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viveza_criolla
Try things like honesty and integrity. How long will it take you to look those words up and comprehend what they mean?
Troneas.......you have a 474 billion dollar GDP and sold 28 billion to the USA alone.....that's almost 6% of your entire GDP to the USA alone. How much do you need to export to the USA that we keep hearing you do not need?
Jul 15th, 2013 - 10:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 010 Troneas
Jul 15th, 2013 - 10:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0perhaps if most of our agricultural products werent bound to restrictive access to the US market then we wouldnt have to go selling to iran in the first place.
The Dark Country: ALWAYS THE VICTIM!
FFS grow a pair, shoot TMBOA and her crooked government and find somebody, ANYBODY, who understands the International Law and is prepared to stick to it.
Oh, oh, just seen the flaw in that: YOU DON'T HAVE ANYBODY, DO YOU?
@13. how is trading with iran not compatible with international law? please enlighten me here because i have studied international law and i fail to see how what argentina is doing here is illigal.
Jul 15th, 2013 - 11:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0or are you bringing up the self- determination issue? if you feel that understanding international law means giving up sovereignty over the south atlantic islands (inhabited or not - as is the case with S. Georgia and S. Sandwich), im afraid every single future president of argentina will not pass your criteria.
14 I think you will find that the problem with Iran is not trade or recognition . The problem put simply , so that you can understand , is that Iran wants to produce a nuclear devise to destroy the State of Israel . Which happens to be a democratic country and member of the world community . They have the right to practice their faith as we , or any other country , has . We have fought some horrible wars for that right .
Jul 16th, 2013 - 01:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0We really know Argentina's position regarding jews and Israel. Can you imagine how it would look in the eyes of Iran if kirchner attended the memorial service? Argentina might not get any rials.
Jul 16th, 2013 - 01:48 am - Link - Report abuse 016 .Nice one ! Could it be that , once Iran has a nuclear weapon , Argentina , Brazil, Uruguay and Bolivia will buy one. Paraguay will be full of US bases ! !
Jul 16th, 2013 - 01:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0@15. iran wants a nuclear device so that the united states, which has military presence all around them (iraq, kuwait, saudi arabia, israel, turkey) doesnt bombard them to the dark ages just like they did with iraq. its the same reason why isreal has nuclear weapons - because they are surrounded by pissed off arabs of your constant land grabbing by expanding settlements into palestinian land... that and treating them like second class citizens on their land.
Jul 16th, 2013 - 02:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0well the united states wants the oil flowing and hence stability in the middle east; and have shown they wont hesitate to use military force to get what they want.
so enough with your hypocrisy already.
18 I suggest you go to sleep . The mental strain is too much for you .
Jul 16th, 2013 - 02:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0Did they forget so soon?
Jul 16th, 2013 - 03:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Iran-contra affair, in U.S. history, secret arrangement in the 1980s to provide funds to the Nicaraguan contra rebels from profits gained by selling arms to Iran
Read more: Iran-contra affair | Infoplease.com http://www.infoplease.com/encyclopedia/history/iran-contra-affair.html#ixzz2ZAuHhTT5
Wow 30 years ago Marcos.
Jul 16th, 2013 - 04:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0Right about the time Argentina was invading another country.
Seems some countries disown their past while others aren't allowed.
Double standards much Marcos?
La la la panis et circenses for the masses...
Jul 16th, 2013 - 08:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0The poor guys is overwhelmed by scandals good opportunity to divert attention I guess...
I wait to see the full week of MP article about the war of terror with Argentina and new sized companies and planes from Amexica.
ha ha
Poor Argentina!
Jul 16th, 2013 - 11:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0Panem et circenses indeed.
Unfortunately. Argentina has no flour to make bread and no games because everyone is on strike.
”The Iranian government considers Israel a “Zionist entity” (as well as the United States) and ignores its existence. Not only that: it believes it must “disappear from the face of the Earth” as President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has said.”
Jul 16th, 2013 - 12:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0did a Zionist write this?, talk about propaganda.
umm.. its like the no-ones hear of mutually assured destruction (MAD)?
In the case of iran, I would define it as unilaterally guaranteed annihilation
Jul 16th, 2013 - 06:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Didn't someone say this was going to happen over the last few months? I seem to remember seeing it.
Jul 16th, 2013 - 06:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hmm
I guess none of the rgtrolls will mention anything.
This is going to get much much worse for CFk
1/3 of the Arg GDP is just their own gov now, Poppy. Not a totally real GDP.
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