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Cristina Fernandez booed when she visited site of a tragic building collapse
Argentine President Cristina Fernandez was booed and insulted when she visited on Wednesday afternoon at the site in the city of Rosario where at least ten people died when a several stories building collapsed following a major gas leak explosion. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesThats nothing to the boo,s you will hear when the economy collapses.
Aug 08th, 2013 - 03:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0This is what happens when you practise fake politics with fairy tales like the Malvinas and issue policy by press release instead of question and answer sessions. And neglect the country you are meant to serve. Is there an Argentine Paxman?
Aug 08th, 2013 - 04:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0shh!! ssshhhh!!!
Aug 08th, 2013 - 04:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0Can you hear that? Your cover has been blown!!! A change is coming...
Better put Tango1 on 5 minutes warning.
'but there were also a few who said it’s normal the president turns up when a tragedy of this magnitude.'
Aug 08th, 2013 - 04:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well she didn't turn up at Once when the train crashed....
“Hello Maximo? It's your mother.
Aug 08th, 2013 - 05:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0Is there any diesel in the buses?
Yes!
Ok listen very carefully. I need you to find as many brain dead unemployed La Campora members and bring them ......
What's that? Yes! Of course they will be paid the normal fee..... Yes yes a Happy Meal at McDonalds.
Those that cheers loudest can also have a sundae.
Hurry now. Santa Fe Government House. Also can you stop at the hardware store on your way? Mama needs some more spackling and No-More Gaps. It was difficult looking concerned and sad. It's taken its toll and mama's face cracked a bit.”
This must all be lies, everyone loves Cristina.
Aug 08th, 2013 - 05:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0It's called RENT A CROWD, all 3rd world countries do it. The first 3 rows are bussed in so the cameras are directed on them, police descretely in the background to make sure no reasonable person can jump to the front and spoil the show. I hope I am not being insensitive but if they take holidays when something like this happens then no work would be done in Argentina, let's just say this a one off because of the primaries, shall we.
Aug 08th, 2013 - 05:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0I recall when Mr Blair won power, a crowd 'spontaneously' gathered to clap him in to Downing St, they were all bussed in Labour people. It's not just the Third World where this goes on.
Aug 08th, 2013 - 05:53 am - Link - Report abuse 05Anglotino
Aug 08th, 2013 - 05:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0LOL!! Happy meals!
I thought the same about the crowd.
Anglotino
The trolls are getting angry and frustrated.
Personal attacks on US and Brit posters are quite frequent now.
“A-Turd of Heinie” is accusing you of being another identity, but won't risk being wrong by saying who :-)
“A-Turd's” big gambit about having a place in Pennsylvania, is particularly funny.
He's been caught out several times and changes his story.
You seem to be the most hated - I wonder why???
Keep it up
They shouldn't insult their leader when all she was doing was seeing what she could do to help them. They'd have been even angrier if she hadn't bothered to turn up and rightly so.
Aug 08th, 2013 - 06:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0Terrible disaster.
They booed her because they do not trust her intentions. They do not trust her because she has lied so many times to them. It happens and I am sure CFK's skin is thick enough to take it.
Aug 08th, 2013 - 06:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0Condolences to the families of the deceased and disappeared, but getting angry with CFK about this is unfounded. Do they not realise that if they stick with CFK gas leaks may well become a thing of the past in Argentina? These people clearly do not know what is good for their country.
Aug 08th, 2013 - 06:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0If Argentinian's do not realise that CFK is the mother of the nation, then she will have to seriously consider not trusting them with a vote on the matter.
Kirchner's for 10 years. Do they not realize that is she has not changed things by now she never can. With asslips kirchner as the mother of Argentina, Argentine's should get a blood transfusion.
Aug 08th, 2013 - 07:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0@11 More like her skin is so rubbery and elastic, the insults just bounce off her.
Aug 08th, 2013 - 07:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0@9 Troy
Aug 08th, 2013 - 07:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0I know!
@11 It's not that she has “thick skin”, otherwise she wouldn't have INDEC create false numbers, or try to silence the opposition media. She's callous and deluded.
Aug 08th, 2013 - 08:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0People starve and suffer around her, and she just looks for ways to increase her popularity and fortune. Her administration is being held together by the greed of her followers. When the spoils are gone, they will likewise become her enemies.
Gollum, OMG , that bloody woman, another day another PR disaster! All my trolls not know how to make anything of this oh dear oh dear oh dear
Aug 08th, 2013 - 08:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0“For over 20 years I have come to the Martin Fierro Awards and but I have never saw such political division in the audience. There is an irreconcilable division in Argentina that I call it ”a crack“ and I think it's the worst thing that happens to all of us because it will transcend governments. Florencia K, or Máximo K, might rule the country and the crack will follow. It’s a cultural issue in an extended meaning and it is related with the way we see the world. This cark also split friends, siblings, partners and co-workers. In the recent past I came here and more people greeted me in the past than now. This story that who is against the Government is a traitor to the country is wrong since we can be against a Government and not being a traitor. The last time a similar thing happened in the 50s and sadly that crack generated at that time lasted another 50 years. I think we are all the country and no one has the copyright of the motherland. Argentina is not a political party. Hopefully someday we can overcome this rift because two half Argentinas does not add up one Argentina as a whole.”
Aug 08th, 2013 - 09:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0Jorge Lanata speech this week
Poorly designed European gas pipes are to blame for this. Does that continent make anything worth a peanut anymore? What a joke, 700 million people good for nothing.
Aug 08th, 2013 - 09:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0@19
Aug 08th, 2013 - 09:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0sounds more like poorly educated Argentinian heating engineer.
There were NEVER any such explosions in Argentina when the equipment was Argentine and the technicians too. Only since it was all privatized and imports allowed?
Aug 08th, 2013 - 09:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0PRIVATIZED TO WHOM AND IMPORTER FROM WHERE...?
19. Yeah sure since there are buildings blowing up all over Europe from poorly constructed gas pipes.
Aug 08th, 2013 - 09:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0You are an idiot
Is your brain eaten by pesticides?
This explosion was caused by cheap construction and a bribe paid to the building inspector
simple as that
A bad workman blames his tools.
Aug 08th, 2013 - 09:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0The first sign of adulthood is acceptance of the responsibility of you actions. Grew up with the rest of argentina tobi. Funny with EU 20x the size, they should be blowing up everyday. I would be stunned if a troll here ever accepted responsibility for their inept actions.
Aug 08th, 2013 - 09:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yankee he is eating GMO their are selling to China.
Argentina is never to blame for anything, it is always someone else's fault!
Aug 08th, 2013 - 09:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0Probably using pipes that weren't meant for the application but kinda worked sort of as long as nobody noticed
Aug 08th, 2013 - 09:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0It is much cheaper to pay bribes than do it right in Argentina.
All of those multi story slums are a disaster waiting to happen.
As long as we have CFK in power, we'll not have many more of these gas explosions, very soon we will not be able to import any gas as we are running out of U$S to pay for it!!!!!!!
Aug 08th, 2013 - 09:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0Tobi - I was wondering about that destroyer that sank? Who put that together do you think? And then what about the train crash, do you Think it was them foreign Sepoys? Do you think these sabotage merchants are British?
Aug 08th, 2013 - 09:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0Or, do you think you have developed a persecution complex?
@28
Aug 08th, 2013 - 10:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0The answer is quite simple. More inflation, corruption and poor management of pubvlic and private infraestructure.
With the inflation people run short of money so they save it by not investing in their own homes so this kind of accidents will be regular ones.
Fatal accidents happen daily in the shanty towns with gas, electricity for heatting.
Trains, ships and any other public ser5vices suffer the crisis as private ones.
#19 Englands Prince Phillip has the answer : Peering at a fuse box in a Scottish factory, he said: “It looks as though it was put in by an Indian.”
Aug 08th, 2013 - 10:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0Perhaps the faulty gas pipe was put in by an Indian?
Oh no! You killed them all off didn't you?
@29 pgerman: “The answer is quite simple. More inflation...”
Aug 08th, 2013 - 10:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0The coco bean was a good anti-inflation currency used in the Americas...perhaps CFK should kick the pesky Europeean peso out and bring in the coco bean?
Are they expecting trouble at the elections ?
Aug 08th, 2013 - 10:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0More than 87 thousand troops will guard the operation of elections.
http://www.cronista.com/economiapolitica/Mas-de-87-mil-efectivos-custodiaran-el-operativo-de-las-elecciones-20130808-0096.html
A European lecturing on train safety and an American lecturing on gas leaks.
Aug 08th, 2013 - 10:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Now that's comedy.
“Poorly designed European gas pipes are to blame for this.” Haha of course that's the problem, nothing to do with lack of proper maintenance. If that was the reason here's an idea , don't buy cheap shit when gas is involved.
Aug 08th, 2013 - 10:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0Hasn't there been like half a dozen train wrecks all over Europe last two months, and haven't their been at least three gas explosions in the USA, two of them obliterating entire neighborhoods?
Aug 08th, 2013 - 10:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0F'sssks sakes who are these morons kidding.
@35
Aug 08th, 2013 - 10:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0And they were all the fault of Argentina.
Just face it agent, I am too well informed, too intelligent, too cunning, to devious, to irresistible, to win an argument against. That is why I am the most famous Troll online... and also because I actually speak the truth as I troll. I don't just “lie”, all my “trolling” is based on facts.
Aug 08th, 2013 - 10:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0Which I guess does not make it trolling after all. So focus on the Truth part.
35. There is really something deeply wrong with your society that you must always say.. look you had X which is way worse than what happened here.
Aug 08th, 2013 - 10:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0No other correlation just x against y and in your pea brain it is the same.
I can't think of any other people that do that.
It is really very sad you never take responsibility for your own misery.
tobi.......doesn't your momma know that they have milk machines when you get dopey from tit juice deprivation? Give momma nipples a healing chance before they chafe.
Aug 08th, 2013 - 10:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0The collapse is nearing getting larger by the day. I am thrilled that the last of the in laws will be making their escape this fall.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jerry-nelson/argentine-courts-work-to-_b_3289972.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jerry-nelson/argentine-courts-work-to-_b_3289972.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jerry-nelson/argentine-courts-work-to-_b_3289972.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jerry-nelson/argentine-courts-work-to-_b_3289972.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jerry-nelson/argentine-courts-work-to-_b_3289972.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jerry-nelson/argentine-courts-work-to-_b_3289972.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jerry-nelson/argentine-courts-work-to-_b_3289972.html
Argentina is so loved......feel the love.
What misery?
Aug 08th, 2013 - 10:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Not my fault your entire argument is based on a false premise.
If I claim you are living in the streets, and build an entire narrative around it, why should you be forced to counter any statements made therein, when the premise to start with is fallacious?
You think I live in misery, that I'm a government lackey, etc. It is not my job to disabuse you.
I never said you were living in the streets, I said slum. You're the one who posted the Mendoza neighborhood where you pretend to live and it looks like a slum to me. Sorry if that offends you but I would never walk around there.
Aug 08th, 2013 - 10:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0You consistently blame Rg misery and troubles on the big bad northern countries keeping the good decent and honest people of Arg poor and desperate.
It is frankly boring and sad
Your whole society needs to grow up and take responsibility for your misery. Nobody else has put you there. A series of disastrous gov'ts for the last 100 yrs has taken you from one of the richest well run countries in the world to a basket case, scofflaw and rogue nation.
How in the heck can you be going into ANOTHER balance of payments crisis ALREADY!! Gads you people are dumb.
Funny I just googled “dorrego” mendoza, and got mostly pictures of brick homes, interior of houses (not lavish, but clean and confortable), backyards with cut lawns, mountain views, cars, and shopping malls. And admittedly a disturbing picture of a poor dog that seems to have been attacked. And a map of the province.
Aug 08th, 2013 - 11:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0I still don't get what you gain by making up insults that are so easily debunked by a 2 second google search “dorrego mendoza”, which anyone here can do right now.
@42
Aug 08th, 2013 - 11:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0I think you missed the point of Yankees argument TTT, Argentina is responsible for its problems and no one else.
Yeah I did the same search.
Aug 08th, 2013 - 11:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0I wouldn't walk around there and it's not meant to be insulting
as I said sorry if that offends you
I think in general Mendoza is pretty dangerous. Even in what is considered to be the nicer areas seemed sketchy to me.
I think TTT forgets that many of us have witnessed Argentina first hand, whereas he has no life experience.
Aug 08th, 2013 - 11:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0Last time I was in Mendoza, a few months ago, we were repeatedly warned that crime had increased and to take great care. My friends from Buenos Aires were somewhat fearful when I led them on a walk that strayed from the centre. However, I have to say I did not feel threatened. But they have witnessed the increase in crime and therefore have reason to feel afraid.
I haven't been to BsAs for a year and my friends have told me that it has changed a lot in that time. They are fearful.
TTT, there is nothing wrong with being patriotic about one's country. You, however, think every comment made here is a personal insult to you. That is nationalist thinking and you need to grow out of it.
I think you are mistaken, I am the least nationalist here. Argentina receives insults here compared to other countries at the rate of 98 per 100, and the rest of your countries combined split among each other the other two. Yet those 2 drive you lot through the ceiling.
Aug 08th, 2013 - 12:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Unlike yankeeboy who got all indignant when I mentioned how some people I know found NYC the smelliest place in the world, and quite creepy to walk around, with all the drug addicts, bums, and religious fanatics holding signs accosting you. It seemed to them like an urban wasteland.
When I cycled down through Mendoza to Ushuia a few months ago the local police stopped me just before the outskirts and gave me an escort all the way to my guest house. They said I wouldn't get a few hundred metres before I would get attacked and robbed of my bike and possessions. When I left the guy in the guest house ran me to a safe spot to the south in his van. Apparently the locals know a lot better than our teen troll. I suspect he has never been there because I was entering from the North of Mendoza and that's where he says that he lives! Tosser!
Aug 08th, 2013 - 12:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0HERE! Yes, here on threads about Argentina. This comments board is not the whole world.....get some perspective. Get out a bit.
Aug 08th, 2013 - 12:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@47
Aug 08th, 2013 - 12:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Of course if you are coming from the North (which is known as the rough part), the police may have wanted to be nice. No, that's not where I live, try again (though I know people in Las heras and they are very nice).
My best friend's cousin was fingered in London, by two guys. You know nothing about your own country.
I know nothing about Mendoza so I Googled it.
Aug 08th, 2013 - 12:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It depends what your query is as to the reply you receive.
Any Downsides?
One thing you should bear in mind is security. There were several armed robberies around Mendoza during 2007-2010, some at upscale hotels and others at restaurants, so we would advise you to check the latest situation, to ask your hotel what security measures they have in place, and not to walk around after dark (take cabs instead).
http://www.virtualtourist.com/travel/South_America/Argentina/Provincia_de_Mendoza/Mendoza-1537521/Warnings_or_Dangers-Mendoza-TG-C-1.html
Try this site for a tourists perspective. It's not all beauty and fun.
Perhaps TMBOA won't pay for the dosing of the CNG so that you can smell it when it is leaking.
Aug 08th, 2013 - 12:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In the as won state Methane is odourless.
@50
Aug 08th, 2013 - 12:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Where did I ever say it was paradise? Quote me and you'll get me to leave forever.
@49 “My best friend's cousin” Why not get some real experience of your own.
Aug 08th, 2013 - 12:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, there were armed robberies in tourist hotels. Most worrying from the reports I read of the people robbed was the reluctance of anyone at the hotel to call the police. (Maybe the robbers were the police) It appears they try to cover up these crimes so as not to alarm the tourists. As I said, crime has increased over the years I have visited.
TTT doesn't know what goes on in the next street. Why anyone would want to form an opinion of a country by reading tabloids and watching soap operas is sad.
Because I have no desire of visiting London or Europe.
Aug 08th, 2013 - 12:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This friend's relative was told to not even bother with a police report. One Londoner told her that the metropolitan police dismisses harrassment reports by non-European foreigners, especially South American women, because the consensus is that “they probably provoked the incident with their naturally raunchy behavior”.
@52 The Truth PaTroll: “...it was paradise...”
Aug 08th, 2013 - 12:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Bye Bye
Chuckle Chuckle
British words don't charm argentines like they fool others.
Aug 08th, 2013 - 12:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I need real proof.
Still here.
Police in Argentina are connected to the crime. Everyone gets paid.
Aug 08th, 2013 - 12:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your sisters cousins brothers aunt probably was staying in the Constitutionales equivalent of NYC and that is why they think it's like BA.
Manhattan is beautiful and EVERY and I mean EVERY Rg I have taken there loves it and doesn't want to leave. They all say “ they have no idea”. Meaning those idiots in Arg that think BA is like NYC. Yeah they have no idea.
Some friends from school went to New York, not my friend's cousin.
Aug 08th, 2013 - 12:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Though this was back in elementary school when they went, during the 1=1. I'm sure NYC has gotten cleaner and better since then... LOL, I doubt it.
@54 LOL!!! You are such a twit. London is multi-cultural. LOL! It sounds like your best friends, cousin's, sister's, uncle had his leg pulled. Probably a taxi driver as they pass the time winding people up.
Aug 08th, 2013 - 12:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No offence but I completely understand that you do not have the money to travel.
How would you reckon I can't travel? Just because I chose not to go to certain places does not mean I can't travel. I just don't want my money feeding the repressive machinery of the UK, EU, and USA. That's all.
Aug 08th, 2013 - 12:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No, you told me. You said you were poor and proud of it. Don't you remember?
Aug 08th, 2013 - 12:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes I do, but of course context is something the eludes you still isn't it.
Aug 08th, 2013 - 01:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Poor in comparison to the rest of you here, who have 1 million dollar homes, go on weekend trips to London, Milan and Dubai, own ocean properties in land's end, were former investment managers with golden parachutes, and or travel the world at will and please. Compared to that I'm poor yes.
But also probably more truthful of my real financial situation.
58. Yeah people with U$100MM condos live in smelly terrible cities.
Aug 08th, 2013 - 01:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Okay
BTW how many foreign Billionaires and Royalty have a 2nd home in BA?
None, One? Probably none.
Surprise.
Elaine why should he travel when he can see every culture in the world through a screen or in person within a few hours drive.
hahaha
Royalty from all over Europe used to come to Argentina, but we wised up and told them to get packing. Heck there was even a time when British royalty would sojourn here, thank God that's never coming back.
Aug 08th, 2013 - 01:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 064. Yeah that was when it was nice, safe and run well.
Aug 08th, 2013 - 01:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0During your great grandparents generation
What a stupid thing to say
Wow, royalty visits the USA! Wow that must make your day.
Aug 08th, 2013 - 01:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I remember a time when Americans would feel pride about putting men in to space. But alas, only China and Russia can do that now.
How the mighty have fallen.
@64 That was back in the halcyon days when your country had some dignity and promise. Not the no-hope crapheap it is right now. Still perhaps after the next few generations of Peronists have snuffed it Argentina might crawl back out of the gutter again.
Aug 08th, 2013 - 01:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 066. As I have said, been there done that 40 YEARS AGO
Aug 08th, 2013 - 01:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We are working on manned mission to Mars now.
Argentina can't even keep trains on the tracks or keep buildings from blowing up.
Why don't you start there
hahaha
From the standpoint of money, Argentina's time has gone by.
Aug 08th, 2013 - 01:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thankfully, life is just not money. Although for you in Europe in the USA it is obviously, thus the miserable living in spite of all the “wealth”.
62 The Truth PaTroll
Aug 08th, 2013 - 01:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Poor in comparison to the rest of you here” wah, wah, wah!!!!! poor widdle me, looky at poor widdle me!!!
Grow a pair will you?? stand up and take some responsibility!!
“How would you reckon I can't travel? Just because I chose not to go to certain places does not mean I can't travel”
WOW!!! with an outlook like that, no wonder you are such a well rounded person ( not!! )
It is said that travel broadens the mind...
You must be the narrowest minded person I have heard of.
Someone once described Buenos Aires as a faded old dowager. It clearly was once a great city but is neglected and decaying now. (I am not sure TTT has been there).
Aug 08th, 2013 - 01:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No, TTT, you said it in a completely different context. You proudly claimed to have no possessions, used some cobbled together computer, and didn't need anything. You also claimed not to work. I remember the context when you were trying too hard to make a point and over-egged the pudding as usual.
You too readily assume that everyone outside of Latam was born with a silver spoon the their mouths rather than the reality. They gained a good education, worked hard and used their intelligence to acquire a good standard of living. You are not alone, just about every Argentine I speak to does not understand the concept of working hard and reaping the rewards. This is partly because even if they do work hard, their elected government will piss it all up the wall before they ever get to enjoy any rewards.
@70
Aug 08th, 2013 - 01:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Travel broadens the mind?
Well I guess this forum proves that theory down the toilet!
ElaineB
Aug 08th, 2013 - 01:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Give an opinion about Argentine people taking TTT (or Alex Vargas, Think or Danny Berger) as references is like qualifyng british people using Conqueror as reference.
“just about every Argentine I speak to does not understand the concept of working hard and reaping the rewards” is false, unfair and rather offensive.
Usually people of the Third World work more hours and under worse working conditions to collect poorest salaries.
Oh no pgerman, don't tell me you really thought they respected you because you acquiesced to all their demands?
Aug 08th, 2013 - 01:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They still think of you as a filthy argie. I know it sounds harsh to say that, but it's a fact. Anyone who is not British is automatically inferior. Nothing to envy that evil Third Reich.
@TTT
Aug 08th, 2013 - 01:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is pointless trading anecdotes about people fingered in London vs gas leaks in Argentina. What is more useful to compare are national statistics as these compare populations and not just individual good and bad incidents which occur in every country.
So in terms of economics and national crime and accident statistics, do you feel that Argentina is on the way up, or, on the way down?
The direction Argentina is going is irrelevant to me. I work to better myself. That's all that matters to me.
Aug 08th, 2013 - 01:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ TTT
Aug 08th, 2013 - 02:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'll take that as an “on the way down then”.
The point is that it doesn't need to be like this. Greece and Ireland are two countries with almighty national debts that have earned respect by making tough decisions and sticking to them. They are now headed in the right direction albeit with a long way still to go - in fairness Britain is in a similar situation also regarding total debt and direction of travel. Thus, what the posters above are saying is that if Argentina did the same then it could also recover its self-respect and international position. However, at present Argentina is a basket case merely to be pitied, in my personal opinion.
Argentina's debt to GDP is 40% and falling. Europe can only dream of that.
Aug 08th, 2013 - 02:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is too late for Argentina to “regain its former wealth”. I have NEVER here said Argentina is an economic superpower or that there is any hope of prosperity for all here. It simply would take too long and no one has the patience for that in the 21st century.
I just retaliate insults that's all. Insults stop, I vanish, simple formula really and it is in your side's hands.
@76 that's kirchners thought too.
Aug 08th, 2013 - 02:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@73 Without giving away the nature of my work, I spent a great deal of time with people with no work ethic whatsoever in Argentina. And I did mention Argentines that do work hard only to have their efforts squandered away.
Aug 08th, 2013 - 02:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I could recount endless stories of frustrated businessmen dealing with work-shy employees and having to pay bribes to stay in business. Speak to people in adjacent countries and they will typically say that Argentines don't want to work.
That said, of course there are hardworking Argentines. I know many in my social-circle and they will generally complain about the lazy Argentines they know.
If you are offended, I apologise.
@TTT Yes, it is all about you, isn't it?
That you believe your fellow countrymen lack the patience to grind out economic improvements is a far sadder indictment on Argentina than anything else the posters on here can say.
Aug 08th, 2013 - 02:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As far as I am concerned, very few British people specifically dislike Argentina or Argentinians per se - it is only Argentina's attitude towards the Falkland Islanders that makes us despair of your country. The problem for me is that the treatment of the islanders has been SO bad that it does tend to colour my view of everything else.
I don't lie.
Aug 08th, 2013 - 02:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 078. 40% of Gdp huh, not counting the $ owed to:
Aug 08th, 2013 - 02:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The hold outs
Paris Club
ICSID claims
Repsol
Anses
BCRA
Banco Nacional
WB
IDB
and what do you think the restated GDP will look like when the Ks are retired?
My guess is you'll fall another couple steps down the GDP chart when its restated
and
the real $ owed is over 100%
@73 I really don't think that anyone who puts together “p” and “german” has any ground to stand on. Be it high, low or a swamp. As “Redrow” says, we take what we find. Those that I refer to as “argies” are consistently belligerent, brainwashed, cowardly, criminal, deceitful, degenerate, delinquent, depraved, dishonest, greedy, hate-filled, ignorant, larcenous, mendacious, puerile, rabid, vicious and xenophobic. As are many of their latino c0-travellers. I should let such people think they can walk all over the Falkland Islanders or we British? Not a chance! I tell them exactly what they are and what they can expect. I write constantly to my government to tell them what I expect them to do. Make no mistake. If slugland starts something again, I believe it should be wiped off the planet. There are many, many other Brits who believe the same thing. Argieland has nowhere near paid enough. It cost Britain 255 courageous servicemen and the Islands 3 of its people to throw the argie animals off the Islands. Kirchner LIES. Her cronies LIE. And anybody who follows her line LIES. Not one of them is worth the shit I would wipe off my boots. If all of that applies to you, it's your problem, not mine. I never forget that, during the Second World War while British people were fighting and dying for the freedom of people everywhere, argies were doing nothing of any significance. They didn't even dare transport foodstuffs themselves. Brave people had to go and get it. And then, after declaring war when it was obvious that the Nazis would be beaten, argieland accepted and protected german nazi war criminals. How fortunate for argieland that, after 6 years of war, Britain was tired. I would have gone on. Invaded argieland, sorted through the population, found the criminals, the collaborators, the sympathisers. And shot or hanged the lot! I am reasonable with a proper, honest Argentine such as Simon 68. The rest mean nothing. They can eat each other for all I care!
Aug 08th, 2013 - 03:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Cristina Fernandez
Aug 08th, 2013 - 03:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your job is here, looking after us, our interest, our well being,
Our defense, our health, our people,
Not swanning around making an arse of yourself , making us look stupid , selfish , greedy , uneducated , aggressive ,
So stop crying to the UN and the rest of the cretins out there
And stay here.
Says the people..lol
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They hate her, There is another protest tonight and it is suppose to be a large one. Kirchner is done and is her party and kirchnerites.
Aug 08th, 2013 - 03:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The only way TTT will ever “travel” is by “Total Recall” and then he will only go to BsAs.
Aug 08th, 2013 - 03:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@84 I did say I would not respond to you again but you continue to bunch argies (your description is 100% accurate) in with Argentines. This is wrong.
There are perhaps 15M Peronistas and Malvista scum out of 40M population, using polling figures.
Simon68 and the whole of the family of my next door neighbour fall within the remaining 25M. These people are no different to me, I am not sure about you. They do not deserve the ire that you give them.
Chris I totally agree. I've been to Argentina many times, in laws are there for a while) and other extended family. I not most are decent people.
Aug 08th, 2013 - 04:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I lived there for 5 years and never met anyone like the numbskulls on this site.
Aug 08th, 2013 - 05:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Of course I didn't hang around with many K supporters
Nostrils @ 37
Aug 08th, 2013 - 07:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“I am too well informed, too intelligent, too cunning, to devious, to irresistible, to win an argument against.”
Other than the fact that your English skills slip when you start foaming at the mouth, you are only one of those things!
“My best friend's cousin” is how you present an argument and 'facts' about somewhere. Not very well informed at all.
Of course you are intelligent. However you are obviously not intelligent enough to realise that a high intelligence doesn't equally translate into anything else. It hasn't translated into your other supposed strengths of being devious, irresistible or cunning. It is a guarantee that your high intelligence definitely hasn't translated into sociability or respect. Something you are continually nonplussed by on here and considering your level of bile and frustration it would seem that even at university where intelligence is prized you are only prized for being a pillock.
And c onsidering you have never ever won an argument against me, it would seem that it is I that is “ too well informed, too intelligent, too cunning, to[o] devious [and] to[o] irresistible to win an argument against.”
If I'm wrong, here is your chance to prove it. A simple hyperlink (not too difficult for someone who believes he doesn't need to travel anywhere because he can gain the same experience from surfing the internet) will show the world how much better informed, intelligent, cunning, devious, irresistible you are compared to me.
I am not going to repeat my belief on you seem to lack social skills, however I will say that you have an extremley weak personality. You claim that you act like you do because everyone else does. It just shows you are just a sheep caught up in the mob mentality. Joining them because you can't beat them is a poor way to use your intelligence.
In a crumbling country you keep trying to find sources of pride but they only exist in your imagination.
Argentina is now less free than it once was, not more.
I don't need to find sources of pride. I just call it like it is good or bad. I just said above to another poster “Argentina has no chance at recovering it's wealth status of the past”, how much less subjective can that statement be?
Aug 08th, 2013 - 11:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is you my foreign demi-fiends that cannot tolerate criticism. As I have stated, of 100 insults and negative comments here, 98 are about Argentina, 2 about any other country in Latin America, Anglo America, Europe and Asia combined. So it takes lots of fortitude to be here as I do. That should tell you that the gratuitous insults and humiliation really don't bother me. I only use them as a tactic to excuse by subsequent harangues.
Of course my English skills have declined. I am almost fluent in three new languages now, that is not only taxing in mind and hours (16 a day studying), but also declines your top-sharpness in other skills since the brain will try to economize to optimize operations.
@91
Aug 09th, 2013 - 04:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0No wonder you are so bitter, you have no time to eat, socialise, sleep, but you have plenty of time to post comments on this site, tell me how do you manage? No wonder you are braindead you don' have enough sleep. CHILL. Toodle Pip
Sounds like preparation H for a new persona tobi. Do you not have enough already? With all these languages when will you ever travel to use them?
Aug 09th, 2013 - 05:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0I am thinking Toby has a split personality. He wants to be isolated in his backward country yet he yearns to learn other people's languages.
Aug 09th, 2013 - 06:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0It is a very odd psychosis.
Toby, Instead of taking more worthless language classes why don't you take math and economics instead of arguing with us all the time you'd actually understand what we've all been saying for the last few years about Argentina is actually true.
Cybil.....just call him Cybil
Aug 09th, 2013 - 08:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0They say the poor wheat crop is even worse than expected due to a fungus. So they'll have even less than they expected.
Aug 09th, 2013 - 09:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0They can always buy it from the USA w/U$
What a basket case of a country.
South American Zimbabwe
Soon they won't even be able to feed themselves
Solely due to bad gov't policies
94yankeeboy
Aug 09th, 2013 - 09:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0“I am thinking Toby has a split personality. He wants to be isolated in his backward country yet he yearns to learn other people's languages.”
He yearns at the same time for our approval, at the core of it.
A very odd psychosis, indeed.
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