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Journalist Greenwald promises more revelations on the NSA spying network

Tuesday, September 3rd 2013 - 01:33 UTC
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The US National Security Agency also intercepted text messages by Mexico’s Enrique Peña Nieto in which the then-presidential front-runner discusses two possible cabinet picks, journalist Glenn Greenwald said on Sunday night’s show ‘Fantastico’, citing a 24-slide presentation. Peña Nieto assumed office in December 2012. Read full article

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  • toxictaxitrader2

    Does the U.S.spy?
    Is the Pope Jewish?

    Sep 03rd, 2013 - 03:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    A country spying on another country..... what has happened to the world!

    Sep 03rd, 2013 - 07:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GFace

    Come now. Why the fan dance. If this is so important why not one great big bombshell. Do it all at once. This is major public intrerest stuff that should transcend ego. Or is this more about Glenn feathering his career with his fan base than about what the NSA is doing as compared to what it should be doing?

    Sep 03rd, 2013 - 10:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    Is Brazil trustworthy? Not so's you'd notice. Is Greenwald trustworthy? Let's see now, an American “journalist” writing for a British newspaper, living in Rio de Janeiro with a Brazilian boyfriend who transports stolen secret material for him. So, a criminal, queer, traitorous, lefty wannabe. Is he doing this for free? Or is he making megabucks? And wasn't all the boyfriend's travel paid for by the Guardian? Why doesn't Greenwald live in the UK or USA? Is it “bendy love”? Or is he afraid of the laws against treason? Wonder if he's ever heard of having the “courage of one's convictions”? Why is it that cowards always take refuge with the enemy?

    Sep 03rd, 2013 - 10:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Thought this paragon of the journalistic profession was going to make the UK pay for detaining his ass or was that a donkey, no, no it was his mule. Sorry always get confused, not much of an equestrian.

    Story has nothing to do with him living in Brazil I suppose.

    Hate these guys! Some twat betrays his country hands it all to them and they set them themselves up as the world concious.

    Guy must have come in his pants, not for he first time, when he was approached by what's his name?

    Sep 03rd, 2013 - 02:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toxictaxitrader2

    4+5
    Have you guys never thought that maybe the governments betrayed the people by spying on them!
    Also Governments are not the same thing as countries,would you condemn someone who betrayed the Junta of 1982?
    P.S. Go easy with the homophobic comments could get you banned on this site!

    Sep 03rd, 2013 - 02:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GFace

    I happen to take this seriously, @6. But if Greenwald is going to blow the whistle then he should blow it all now. If he really thinks that the NSA is doing what they shouldn't be doing (as opposed to doing what any reasonable person would expect any intelligence service to be doing) then he should stop the tease, stop the old school burlesque, stop the drip drip drip and let the facts flow.

    Sep 03rd, 2013 - 02:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    #7 it's fairly obvious why he is doing it the way he is doing.......it's for damage intent. To toss it out all at once it;'s over and done with. To piecemeal it out at strategically based times or particular events has more impact on the USA.....at least in his twinkling little mind. He would give himself more credibility to get it out and over with then to play the power game, with can be a dangerous game for him.

    #6 Saying one “hates” gays is more homophobic than calling them queer. It's no different than the SA's calling American's yanqui's, or one calling Mexican's wetbacks. Take exception to all racist remarks or not, unless it's personal.

    Sep 03rd, 2013 - 03:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toxictaxitrader2

    #8
    I agree,labels dont matter,gay queer or as we always said in Ireland bent are just
    shorthand for homosexual(the queer feller,meant something quite different back then)its the implication that a person is less worthy that I object to.

    Sep 03rd, 2013 - 08:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Wtf said he hates gays, is Assange Gay!

    Think not.

    Stop twisting the words.

    I said I hate these guys who obtained this information, as if it was by some sort of award winning journalistic coup! What next Pulitzer prizes? All they are doing is handling stolen data and revelling in the journalistic cudos it is giving them.

    Instead of being handed the stuff on a plate or this case, discs, from traitorous thiefs.

    Anyway, why Brazil? What happened to the British threat?

    What happened to the threat of making them sorry?

    Maybe having had time to cool down he realised how immature his comment was, or more likely America is still the better target.

    Sep 04th, 2013 - 01:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toxictaxitrader2

    #10
    Traitorous ??? is it not treachery for a government to do something illegal,something specifically banned by a democratically elected assembly,have you ever read 1984?

    Sep 04th, 2013 - 03:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Have you ever swore an oath of allegiance or given a written undertaking to carry out a course of behaviour in accordance with a set of rules? Conditions of employment ring any bells with you?

    Treachery is the exact word that applies to these two, there is no such thing as whistle blowing in the intelligence field. If someone finds it abhorrent then they should not become involved in it, that simple.

    Christ sake what is all this indignation about spying, it has been going on for millennia. Some people are acting as if they were unaware that kind of thing went on. What, you think all these nations that expressing their displeasure at being spied on, do not have their own intelligence services?

    You think that Brazil does not spy on Argentina and vice versa? Argentina does not spy on Chile and vice vera. Tell me you are not that naive?

    Let's have some perspective here, it goes on and it will always go on.

    Sep 04th, 2013 - 10:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GFace

    @11/12 Actually, there are legal conduits for whistleblowing for people entrusted with sensitive data. I don't like some of NSA's antics as disclosed here but with any White House administration there are members of congress (Rand Paul in our universe and kid-yourself-not, the likes of an Al Franken in the more fun mirror universe with Spock with a goatee and President Romney who in our universe is just dandy when Obama's administration does such things) who would be deleted to act in the public interest and pants the NSA. Now that saying, I won't discount the irony that that most promised of transparent administrations, aka Obama 's White House, has been uh... transparently hostile to the most dull, unsexy and mundane of whistleblowers -- which provides ~some~ moral cover to Snowden and Greenwald. But separation of powers would have given congress some power to shield an anonymous whistleblower and they always could have done this anonymously. (But neither Snowden, and certainly Greenwald were interested in anonymity as the price to get the facts out to the public.)

    By the way, we still have no response from the likes of Hypatia and the rest here on what they'd think of an Argentine, Venezuelan or other ALBAlicious Snowden or Greenwald -- showing that much of this is affected rage against the “established” western first world countries while others like Russia, China, Venezuela, Cuba, and the rest are expected to rise above nothing along with THRUSH, SPECTRE and KAOS, while western intelligence can't even use the methods archived in ZOWIE's shredders (heck according to Snowden, we oughtn't even hack the people who continually hack us!). Acceptance of “transparency” is always a function of whose sideboob is showing.

    Sep 04th, 2013 - 11:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    BBC carrying a story that German Intelligence have given a briefing to their parliament, saying that they intercepted a telephone call which proved that the Syrian Regime were implicated in the chemical attack.

    Sep 04th, 2013 - 12:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hepatia

    A collection of documents giving contextual and specific infomation on this subject may be found at: http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB436/

    Sep 06th, 2013 - 10:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • St.John

    I am rather shocked by the attitude several posters show, a nazi style 'Recht oder unrecht, mein Vaterland'.

    If a government spies on its own people - are you for or against? Right or wrong, my country. Or?

    If a government builds extermination camps - are you for or against? Right or wrong, my country. Or?

    Sep 08th, 2013 - 12:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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