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Russia, Ukraine, China block plans in CCAMLR to create Antarctica marine reserves

Sunday, November 3rd 2013 - 12:07 UTC
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Russia, Ukraine and China are being blamed for a failure of plans to protect almost 3 million square kilometers of ocean in Antarctica. After two weeks of discussions behind closed doors, the Conservation of Antarctic Marine Living Resources (CCAMLR) has failed to come to an agreement on new marine reserves. Read full article

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  • Anglotino

    Typical Russian and Chinese intransigence.

    Two northern hemisphere countries that are nowhere near the Antarctic and should have little say in what goes on there.

    Nov 03rd, 2013 - 01:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Turnip at (1)

    Please include the English in that list of northern hemisphere countries that are nowhere near the Antarctic and should have little say in what goes on there.

    Thanks in advance.
    El Think, Chubut, Patagonia Argentina.

    Nov 03rd, 2013 - 01:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Oh yeah that's right...... yawn!

    Nov 03rd, 2013 - 01:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    Dozy Scarecrow at (2)

    CCAMLR is part of the Antarctic Treaty System. A system argieland would abolish if it could. The Convention has been ratified by the following: Argentina, Australia, Belgium, Brazil, Bulgaria, Canada, Chile, China, Cook Islands, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, India, Italy, Japan, South Korea, Mauritius, Namibia, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Pakistan, Panama, Peru, Poland, Russia (ratified as the Soviet Union), South Africa, Spain, Sweden, Ukraine, United Kingdom, United States, Uruguay, and Vanuatu.

    Now let's look behind Twinky's racist comment. When did argieland make any sort of “claim” in Antarctica? 1942. In the middle of the most extensive war this planet has ever known. In which argieland took no part. Except that it supported Nazi Germany. Hitler and Peron were pals. So Hitler told Peron to claim any parts of the British Empire he fancied. After Britain had been defeated, he could take possession. What a shame that Britain wasn't defeated. What a shame that Hitler is dead. Did he die leading the battle? Of course not. He died by his own hand cowering in a bunker. Any honest, or even half-honest, state would have dropped such claims at the end of the war. But then argieland is corrupt and criminal. Just as a thought, when did the United Kingdom claim the British Antarctic Territory? 1908! Hang on a minute. Doesn't argieland have a history of stealing or trying to steal other people's territory? Started well. Stole from Spain. 1825-8. Tried to steal Uruguay from Brazil. Failed. 1864-70. Stole part of Paraguay. 1878-1884. Stole Patagonia. 1982. Tried to steal Falkland Islands, South Georgia and South Sandwich Islands from Britain. Failed. Still trying. Still failing. But then, in reality, argieland is a Nazi state. It just has a veneer it likes to call “democracy”. But look with whom it has allied itself. Libya and Iran spring to mind! And how many other terrorist states?

    Nov 03rd, 2013 - 02:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Room101

    “No” from two of the most “powerful” nations (?) in the world.
    Greed is their need.

    Nov 03rd, 2013 - 05:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #2
    I thought that as a (progressive nation ?), Argentina would have welcomed such a move to protect the marine habitat in this so far pristine environment.
    Sorry, I forgot, you own all the continent of Antarctica and it's surrounding seas so you can plunder it until it is lifeless.
    I suppose it fits in with your national psyche.

    Nov 03rd, 2013 - 05:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DennisA

    “Australia, the European Union and France”

    Why a separate mention for France? Does the EU not speak for them, like it does for the UK.

    This is more Agenda 21 stuff, where vast areas are to be shut off from human use. “Conservation” is a catch-all phrase, after all who would argue against looking after the environment? However, they are not presenting any evidence of damage by current practices and this is just an attempt to put millions of square miles of open ocean under the control of the UN in its Global Governance agenda.

    Nov 04th, 2013 - 08:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    'Apparently Russia, the Ukraine and China question the legal status of the reserve, and are also worried that their access to valuable fishing stocks would be limited unduly by the new protected areas.'

    It really says all we need to know.
    'Conservation' in this Antarctic/subAntarctic area is designed to protect, not just the fish stocks, but the total marina biota and the food chains necessary for its healthy survival.

    Dennis, the evidence for destruction is seen in every sea and every ocean of the world, in the historical and contemporary data of fishing and overfishing practice on virtually every fish stock, everywhere.

    Protecting the last refuges for the last species is not too much to ask, Dennis, surely.

    Nov 04th, 2013 - 01:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Falkland Islands

    China will link up with Argie land and plunder Anarctica, you see.

    Nov 05th, 2013 - 03:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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