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Celac ratifies full support for Argentina's Malvinas “legitimate sovereignty” claim

Thursday, January 30th 2014 - 06:35 UTC
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The Celac summit in Cuba underlined in its final declaration its determination to strengthen the regional space among Latin American and Caribbean countries and at the same time ratified its full support for Argentina's claim over the Falklands/Malvinas Islands. Read full article

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  • Anglotino

    OMG I WAS RIGHT!

    Woohoo I WAS RIGHT.

    Bahahahahaha I WAS SOOOOOOO RIGHT.

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 06:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redrow

    “Better get the minister out of bed Hargreaves...oh no hang on, this is what they always say. Put the kettle on Hargreaves.”

    Glad to hear about their respect for self-determination, in which case bang goes Argentina's “legitimate rights”.

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 06:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    @1 Anglotino Your exaltations are well-earnt!

    You are THE man! Proved correct!
    ”it expresses “its strongest support for the LEGITIMATE rights of Argentina in the sovereignty dispute over the Malvinas, South Georgia and Sandwich and surrounding maritime spaces, as well as a permanent interest that such a dispute is resolved peacefully and through negotiations, according to Resolution 31/49 from the UN General Assembly”.

    Because we all know the RGs have No LEGITIMATE Rights. The language of diplomacy reigns supreme... They all could agree without committing to anything concrete! In UK slang it's known as 'wriggle-room', the way one might agree, yet slide out of it.

    Anyhoo, no-one in the real world gives a damn what CELAC says... As if this statement wil even cause a ripple...

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 06:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Vulcanbomber

    The whole thing makes me chuckle over my cornflakes

    Lets look at the main points

    “We Celac country members are committed to continue working in the framework of the rule of the law and more specifically Resolution 1514 from the UN General Assembly (14 December 1960, so as to achieve that the whole region of Latin America and the Caribbean become a territory free of colonialism and colonies”

    And yet they are looking at Argentina wanting to Colonise the Falklands, ignoring self determination

    ”Celac is based on 'unrestricted respect for the purposes and principles of the UN Charter and International Law, the peaceful solution of controversies, banning the use and threat of using force, respect for self determination, sovereignty and territorial integrity'

    Hang on, banning threat of force, and yet what has been threatened over oil drilling and cruise industry? Respect for self determiation and yet they wont even acknowledge the existence of the islanders.

    Sovereignty, hang on I cant even keep this up, as everything invalidates each statement, even sometimes within the same paragraph.

    The only thing of interest here, is how many Commonwealth countries supported this along with their paperwork to leave

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 07:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    @4 Vulcanbomber
    Yup, you got it correct - “as everything invalidates each statement, even sometimes within the same paragraph.”

    'nuff said. Enjoy your cornflakes!
    BTW; 100s of thousands in Argie-beta-tina and Venezuela can only buy Kellog's products at $10 a box, and there is no fresh milk to pour, and no toliet roll to... oh well, you get the picture...

    The real people would probaly welcome a touch of 'old-school' colonialism right about now....

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 07:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Boovis

    The most recent resolution (a binding one, unlike the ones spouted by Argentina et al) was resolution 502, which Argentina ignored.

    Nothing to discuss here.

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 08:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    Agreed Boovis!

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 08:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    Who cares, Celac?
    Make as many ridiculous statements as you like.
    What a fizzer!

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 09:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund

    Personally, I'm surprised. After all the build-up, it seems that an assembly of their implanted colonial cousins has offered Argentina nothing but the usual anodyne, lowest common denominator, motherhood and apple pie statements that nobody could possibly object to. It 's no doubt good enough for maintaining the more clueless Malvinistas in their preferred state of neurotic indignation, but as support for Argentina's claim, if that really is what the aim was, it should be seen as a diplomatic disaster.

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 09:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    “the final resolution which originally was said to hold over eighty points.”

    I am amazed these twats could count that far.

    “We want a McDonalds in Cuba” was number 5, I bet. Well it would be if the “citizens” had a choice in the matter, but probably “can we shoot the Castro twats” in reality.

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 10:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lord Ton

    CELAC - a vegetable composed of tin-pot dictatorships and banana Republics said ..........

    And no-one listened.

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 10:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Boovis

    They made essentially the same statement in 2011 so it's good to see some progress is made, moving from just talking about it to discussing it now to chatting about it. How much does it cost to host these things? I'm glad their economies aren't screwed or anything otherwise it might look, to some, as a bad directing of state funds.

    http://www.sela.org/attach/258/default/Special_communique_on_the_Malvinas_Islands.pdf

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 10:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • downunder

    ”........ banning the use and threat of using force, respect for self determination, sovereignty and territorial integrity'.
    “We are committed to work together for the prosperity of all in such a way that discrimination, inequalities and marginalization, violations of human rights and transgressions of the rule of law are eradicated”.

    If Argentina signed this document it means that they must lift their embargo on the Falklands, stop trying to marginalize the Islanders and start respecting their human rights.

    Oh thats right, I forgot there arent any Falkland Islanders they are all non people!

    Does the UN have a category for non-people?

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 10:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    So all Argentina has to do now is PROVE that they have legitimate sovereignty.

    Oh wait, Argentina can't PROVE that they have legitimate sovereignty, if they could they'd've been at the International Court of Justice in the 1960's, or the 1970's, or the 1980's, or the 1990's or even the 2000's.

    In fact, Argentina has had over a century to PROVE that they have legitimate sovereignty, but cannot produce any evidence beyond 'because we want it'.

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 10:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Falkland Islands

    and now? we carry on as usual.

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 10:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Faz

    Every thing is fine...Gollum has topped up his cigar box, the odious dictators have made long speeches, and KFC has developed Lumbago. Hahahahaha!

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 10:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • brasherboot

    Great! We've got your oil. Come get it

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 10:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Room101

    Running out yawns.

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 11:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Oder 1001

    Celac! the last horse in the race there will always be some punters backing the losers

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 11:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • jaydub

    Another meaningless talkfest. Who cares?

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 11:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • nigelpwsmith

    It amazes me that these tin pot politicians don't see that they are being made to look fools in front of the rest of the world, for supporting one thing in their declarations, yet doing the opposite in fact....

    Hypocrites anyone?!

    When are they going to enter the real world and realise that Argentina has no legitimate claim?

    Or better still back the Argentines by paying for them to go to the International Court - to put their money where their mouth is?

    If they honestly believe what they say, then they would seek a legal appraisal of the Argentina claim, which would tell them that they have no claim.

    They say that they believe in Self Determination - but not for the Islanders, who apparently do not exist as far as they are concerned.

    And whilst they are enjoying this little jolly....

    In many of the member countries, the people are suffering great hardship caused by economic mismanagement. The World Cup and the Olympics are due to be held in a country at odds with their public. They are paying for stadiums (which are only half built) when they cannot pay the benefits to people who are starving. No wonder there are riots.

    One has to wonder of all the CELAC countries start falling like dominoes when Argentina falls into anarchy and the military take over.

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 11:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @1

    On the nail- just how do you do it Anglotino?

    Crystal ball? (heh heh) :-)

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 12:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Caribbean countries
    All or any that supports this loony bunch and gets money from Britain,
    Should be ashamed,

    And Britain should withdraw any money that it gives,
    But we won’t?

    But to ignore these fools may seem nice,
    But it could come back to haunt us,
    The time will come,
    That sitting on our hands will not be sufficient...

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 12:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    now, which is more important?
    the desire of 2500 squatters living in a 3rd class colony, or the decision of 33 sovereign nations?
    probably things will remain as they currently are.
    but no doubts, the islets will be more and more isolated in the future.
    so those crazy ideas about trading with uruguay and brazil can be discarded for ever.
    it seems you will need british taxes for a long time more.

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 12:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    @24
    Usual contrarian view, only to be expected. The most important thing is SELF DETERMINATION and that is exactly what the FALKLANDERS have, I hope the Oil companies find huge quantities of oil so they then can claim Independence and move forward without a backward country trying to claim them. As far a isolation is concerned, they will find oil and most countries and Argentina ( after she who must be obeyed ) has left for her enforced exile.

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 12:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Teaboy2

    @25

    Firstly Celac said in respect of self determination - So no effect on the falklanders trade with soutth american countries that are willing to trade with them.

    Secondly, the islands are economically independent from the UK and UK Taxpayers money only pays for the upkeep of the military base and defense of the islands. But once the Oil begins to flow the Islanders will likely contribute towards that cost of defense themselves, therefore reducing the UK Tax Payers costs. The islanders pay for all other services themselves.

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 12:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    “On Tuesday, U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon said he had spoken to Cuban leadership and pressed them on human rights, free expression and freedom of assembly.”

    http://news.yahoo.com/latam-leaders-declare-region-39-zone-peace-39-170423412.html

    Then Castro responded.......fuck off Ban Ki, what does human rights, free expression and freedom of assembly have to do with out Spanish only peace zone?

    What a bunch of monkeys playing adults. Cuba seems to be to role model for the rest of Latin America. I only hope Chile, Colombia. Mexico and Paraguay can manage to stay out of the sludge that the Bolivarian commies manage to have to keep their people poor and repressed.

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 12:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ljordao

    @24:

    Since states have no natural rights, this is a no-brainer. Your message shows how culturally backward Latin America is. Falkland Islanders are not squatters, and their home is not a colony.

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 12:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    #28 paulacita can think what he wants, afterall we treasure freedom of speech and thoughts wherein Latin America....it's programmed. What is more important than his irrelevant thoughts is actual actions and we all in this world know what actions took place, are happening and will not happen.

    In the meantime, paulacita will have to continue to cry, whine and stomp feet...“ I want...I want ...I want”. Nothing will change and the status quo will continue into the foreseeable future until they take it to the ICJ in which they will not because they will lose and will have to shutup at that point.

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 01:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    “In the meantime, paulacita will have to continue to cry, whine and stomp feet...“ I want...I want ...I want”.”
    capitana poop.
    the last thing I want are the islets.
    it would be the worst business ever.
    you know, they are just a pair of rocks with 2500 lazy isleños to maintain.

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 01:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    Paul

    Which is more important the wishes of 33 sovereign nations or the clear majority vote of the UN General Assembly in 2008...interestingly the same 33 made up of the majority losing that vote to over 60 opposite opinions.

    So, paul, I am sorry...but the wishes and interests of the islanders are supported by the majority of States...the same miority of “failed states”, “corrupt states” “failed communist shit-heap states” can “gob-off” as much as they like.

    Nothing will change...as for isolation...yep..isolated from thieving Latinos and embraced by the adult countries of the world.

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 01:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Oh yes I almost forgot your position up there in the wine country of mendoza......how's momma's milkers doing? You still biting?

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 01:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    wine country of mendoza?
    no poopy. you are wrong...again.
    luckily i´m from san isidro,

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 01:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    At 30
    Better than 10 million lazy Argies to maintain

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 01:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    Personally, what stood out for me was this part of the declaration;
    “especially [...] the Riviera Maya Summit, Mexico, 23 February
    Summit of CELAC, 2010, which are part of the historical heritage...”

    Oh Stop it, please! “historical heritage” oh my,!
    Celeriac (sic) was inaugurated a couple of years ago...
    Britian was 'colonised' by the Romans in 4 A.D! Heritage!
    PMSL!
    Should the UK ask the Italians for 'repatriation $$' ?
    well we could, but they are skint! Best we just get on independently as always!
    “historical heritage” oh my,!
    please stop! too much! rotflmao...............
    classic comedy!

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 01:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • so_far

    “Celac ratifies full support for Argentina's Malvinas “legitimate sovereignty” claim..”

    ”...Celac is based on 'unrestricted respect for the purposes and principles of the UN Charter and International Law, the peaceful solution of controversies, banning the use and threat of using force, respect for self determination, sovereignty and territorial integrity'.

    in contrast UK behaviour:

    Britain sending advanced warship to Falklands:

    http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/01/31/10281166-britain-sending-advanced-warship-to-falklands?lite

    Royal Navy sends new warship to islands

    http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/01/31/10281166-britain-sending-advanced-warship-to-falklands?lite

    LatAm has spoken......sorry UK, your wargames are not wellcome in this continent. Your only chance for continuuing killing innocent women, childrens and civilians are in Middle East....

    Get out of LatAM pervert people

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 02:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GFace

    Gee Paul, I thought the islands meant little to you.. How sad you sit there with your sour grapes in a country that can't stop letting you down that, in turn, can do nothing to destroy the islanders spirit while you sulk. You're almost as pitiable as Racist Pathetic Hopeless Antisemetic Toby Nostrils (in any language (now in German) Brownshirt Bait.

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 02:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    @8 Isolde “fizzer” liking your style lady! you outclass these fools 10/1

    @36 sofa-potato
    “LatAm has spoken......sorry UK, your wargames are not wellcome in this continent.”
    Not welcome? You have no say, nor any choice in the matter. Wake up, smell the coffee! Not welcome? HaHa!
    What you gonna do when tha po-lice come you, rude boi?

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 02:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    This is called poly-determination...

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 02:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @24 Oh, that's easy. The desires of 2500 legitimate inhabitants of course. How could anybody consider the wishes of 33 useless, impoverished, murdering, genocidal wannabes? Question for CELAC; When you were incorporating your little glee club, did you bother to include any conditions, such as intelligence?

    How often do you have to be told that the Falklands doesn't receive ANY British taxation? The joint British forces on and around British Overseas Territories in the South Atlantic are paid for by British taxes. But then they would be paid for by British taxes wherever they were. They can be in the Falklands etc, Bermuda, Jamaica, Buenos Aires, anywhere. And, don't forget, the defence of the Falkland Islands against a belligerent, bigoted, corrupt, criminal, deviant, genocidal, larcenous, mendacious, rabid neighbour is covered by 0.3% of the British defence budget. 0.3%! Bet CFK would love a defence budget that size. But that's why the argie air farce only has 25 combat aircraft whilst the RAF has 230, why the argie navvys have ships that dive and submarines that don't and why the argie army has main battle tanks that, compared to the Challenger 2, are like Minis. And you should have seen what the Challengers did to Soviet/Russian tanks during the Iraq War.
    @30 Yeah, and so much better off than you!
    @33 San Isidro eh? Nice place for a missile attack. Anywhere within a thousand miles of the Atlantic Ocean is within range. Submarine doesn't even have to surface!
    @36 Still there. Still coming. Still patrolling. Still ready. And what are you going to do about it? CELAC can stick its head back up its arse. You might “upset” us!

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 02:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    @36

    There are no “war games” just the defence of a people who YOU INVADED.

    A defence of land that has unmapped minefields YOU PLANTED

    A defence of a people whos schools YOU BOOBY-TRAPPED and who were used as a human shield BY YOU.

    so, the day when we take morality lectures from YOU....is not going to happen.

    Take your colonialist, facist doctrines and stick them up your arse.

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 03:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • slattzzz

    @24 isolated by whom? Never isolated by Britain which is where your deluded argument falls over because as long as Britain supports the Falklands you can rant and rave as much as you like because nothing will change and all the countries in the world know that hence the just agree attitude and then the wankers sign behind rgenweeners back. Cant you idiots just realise these countries just agree with you so they can get to the bar quicker. No news here folks

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 03:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    42
    guess britain will get tired to maintain those lazy isleños sooner than later.
    and it will be funny when britain import food from south america to export to the islets, located in...south america.
    must be expensive indeed.

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 04:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Evil Colonialist Pirate

    #42
    If they're the Queen's subjects, living on the Queen's sovereign territory, anywhere in the world... Britain will protect them. However much it costs, however much effort it takes.

    Still, it's interesting to see how a bunch of Argentina's friends gather around to make a statement of support for Argentina. Can't see it making a difference in practical terms though.

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 04:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #30
    the last thing I want are the islets.

    Your wish HAS and will continue to be granted.
    Thank you for your unequivocal support.......greatly appreciated !

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 05:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    45
    you are welcome

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 05:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • so_far

    #42 smart one said :

    “...it's interesting to see how a bunch of Argentina's friends gather around to make a statement of support for Argentina...”

    These are the “bunch” of countries that support Argentina position:

    CHINA, RUSSIA, USA, UNASUR, OAS, UNITED NATIONS, C-24 DES-COLONIZATION COMITTE, ARAB LEGUE, RIO Group, ASA (South American African Countries), MERCOSUR, CELAC , BRIC and Group 77 + CHINA:

    Afghanistan, Algeria, Angola, Antigua and Barbuda, A rgentina, Bahamas, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Barbados, Belize, Benin, Bhutan, Bolivia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Botswana, Brazil, Brunei Darussalam, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Cambodia, Cameroon, Cabo Verde, Central African Republic, Chad, ChileChina, Colombia, Comoros, Congo, Costa Rica, Côte d'Ivoire, Cuba, Democratic People's Republic of Korea, Congo, Djibouti, Dominica, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, Egypt, El Salvador, Equatorial Guinea, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Fiji, Gabon, Gambia, Ghana, Grenada, Guatemala, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Guyana, Haiti, Honduras, India, Indonesia, Iran , Iraq, Jamaica, Jordan, Kenya, Kiribati, Kuwait, Lao People's Democratic Republic, Lebanon, Lesotho, Liberia, Libya, Madagascar, Malawi, Malaysia, Maldives, Mali, Marshall Isls, Mauritania, Mauritius, Micronesia (Federated States of), Mongolia, Morocco, Mozambique, Myanmar, Namibia, Nauru, Nepal, Nicaragua, Niger, Nigeria, Oman, Pakistan, Panama, Papua New Guinea, Paraguay, Peru, Philippines, Qatar, Rwanda, Saint Kitts and Nevis,
    Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Samoa, Sao Tome and Principe, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Seychelles, Sierra Leone, Singapore, Solomon Islands, Somalia, South Africa, Sri Lanka, State of Palestine, Sudan, Suriname, Swaziland, Syrian Arab Republic, Tajikistan, Thailand, Timor-Leste, Togo, Tonga, Trinidad and Tobago, Tunisia, Turkmenistan, Uganda, United Arab Emirates, United Republic of Tanzania, Uruguay, Vanuatu, Venezuela, VietNam, Yemen, Zambia snf Zimbabwe.

    IN contrast UK supporters (Canada, NZ & Australia)

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 05:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    So far (up your own asre)

    On the contrary, the last time the UNGA voted on the matter of whether as Argentina wanted “a sovereignty dispute removed the right to self determination of NSGTS” the vote was 60:41 in the UKs favour

    In favour:  Albania, Algeria, Armenia, Australia, Austria, Bangladesh, Belgium, Belize, Botswana, Bulgaria, Burundi, Canada, Croatia, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Guyana, Haiti, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Jamaica, Kazakhstan, Kenya, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Mongolia, Montenegro, Netherlands, New Zealand, Nigeria, Norway, Oman, Pakistan, Poland, Saint Lucia, Samoa, San Marino, Sierra Leone, Singapore, Slovenia, South Africa, Sweden, Switzerland, The former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia, Trinidad and Tobago, Turkey, Uganda, Ukraine, United Arab Emirates, United Kingdom, United Republic of Tanzania, United States, Zambia, Zimbabwe.

    Against:  Argentina, Belarus, Bolivia, Brazil, Central African Republic, Chile, China, Colombia, Costa Rica, Cuba, Democratic People’s Republic of Korea, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, El Salvador, Ethiopia, Guatemala, Honduras, India, Indonesia, Iran, Malaysia, Mali, Mauritius, Mexico, Mozambique, Myanmar, Nicaragua, Panama, Papua New Guinea, Paraguay, Peru, Russian Federation, Senegal, Spain, Suriname, Syria, Tunisia, Uruguay, Venezuela, Viet Nam.

    Abstain:  Andorra, Angola, Antigua and Barbuda, Bahamas, Bahrain, Barbados, Benin, Brunei Darussalam, Burkina Faso, Cape Verde, Cyprus, Djibouti, Dominica, Egypt, Equatorial Guinea, Fiji, Gabon, Gambia, Ghana, Greece, Grenada, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Japan, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Libya, Madagascar, Malawi, Malta, Morocco, Namibia, Philippines, Portugal, Qatar, Republic of Korea, Republic of Moldova, Romania, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Saudi Arabia, Slovakia, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Swaziland, Thailand, Togo.

    Absent:  Afghanistan, Azerbaijan, Bhutan, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Cambodia, Cameroon, Chad, Comoros, Congo, Côte d

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 05:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • so_far

    Forgot to include SPAIN European Country that support Argentina position explicitly:

    In contrast UK oulaw position is NOT supported even in Europe:

    EU parliament Lawmakers:

    “British sovereignty over the Islands as such, is not accepted by the European Parliament”

    http://en.mercopress.com/2013/06/15/falklands-british-sovereignty-over-the-islands-as-such-is-not-accepted-by-the-european-parliament

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 05:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Leiard

    @49 so_far from the truth.

    “The Falkland Islands are associated with the European Union as an overseas territory of the UK in accordance with Articles 198/204 of Part Four of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European
    Union”

    http://ec.europa.eu/europeaid/where/octs_and_greenland/index_en.htm

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 06:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    So far....yep Spain voted with Argentina in 2008.

    Oddly though a whole chunk of the others you “claimed” voted with the UK.

    In fact, aside from Latino states and some dodgy African military regimes...there only seems to be countries trying to claim territories around the world where the majority of inhabitants wouldn't want that.

    Whereas 60 countries supported the Uk....not the 3 that you claimed.

    Odd how real facts undermine Argentine lies.

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 06:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Oder 1001

    36 so_far (#)

    Britain sending advanced warship to Falklands? countries send their warships to patrol their territory, there is no UN restrictions on such matters, on the other hand Argentina is in direct contravention of UN resolution which states no amount of threat or coercion is to be used against them Argentina in violation of the UN articles, regardless of how wrong the British are in latino`s eyes its only the laws, articles and rule, of the UN the UK needs to adhere to.

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 06:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    48 monkey
    italy?
    http://en.mercopress.com/2012/05/15/italian-lawmakers-support-a-more-relevant-role-for-argentina-in-the-malvinas-dispute

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 06:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    40 countries supporting Argentina

    22 Latin Countries
    Iran, Syria, North Korea (lol)

    Just 15 others....all that bluster for 15 (central African republic, Mali, Myanmar)....oh dear oh dear

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 06:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    48 monkey
    ireland?
    http://en.mercopress.com/2013/06/16/falklands-irish-lawmakers-support-un-resolution-2065-and-dismiss-recent-referendum

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 06:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • so_far

    Priceless...

    Want to make truth your dreams ?

    Want to invade countries ?

    Want to subjugate nations ?

    Stop wasting time in your Play station killing virtual people.....be a real !

    innocents women, childrens and civilians are wating you...

    PROTECTING OUR NATION'S INTERESTS

    ROYAL NAVY

    LIFE WITHOUT LIMITS

    http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/Careers/Royal-Fleet-Auxiliary/How-To-Join-the-RFA

    priceless site for ap'lication

    LIFE WITHOUT LIMITS

    luv that part.....

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 06:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    Paul

    you are talking about individuals within countries...not the official position as voted at the UN.

    There are individuals in all countries who may have an opinion...but when push came to shove.....61:40 in the UKs favour....and 22 of the40 were Latin.

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 06:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @53 paulcedron

    How desperate you are! LOL

    You pull up a story about a small group of Italian 'lawmakers', who DO NOT speak for Italy.

    Italy voted against Argentina's attempt to remove the Falkland Islanders UNIVERSAL RIGHT to SELF DETERMINATION.

    Truth hurts, doesn't it?

    The only way that Argentina can gain sovereignty of the Falkland Islands is if the people who live there wish it.

    So what does the Argentine government do? Do they show the Islanders that they will respect their rights? Do they show the Islanders how their lives could be improved if they voluntarily joined Argentina?

    No. Argentina doesn't respect them or their rights as human beings. Argentina cannot offer them anything that they can't get for themselves.

    And because Argentina can't give the Islanders a better life, one that would also respect and protect their rights as human beings, you resort to bullying, threatening, crying, crawling and BEGGING.

    It's pitiful behaviour. Argentina is a pitiful country, run by thieves and gangsters.

    I almost feel sorry for you, but then again, you stand around and cheer the crooks on, don't you Paul?

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 06:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    @56

    More priceless...join the Argentine Navy.

    We will send you under-equipped to fight a pointless battle....and when due to the governments inadequacy...you are sunk by the enemy...we will further dishonour you by claiming you were running away....needing the brave Captain of the ship to tell the world the truth.

    Join the Argentine navy...we will send you to your death and then dishonour you.

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 06:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    “How desperate you are! LOL”
    yo?
    not at all.

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 06:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #55
    That was the Argentines usual statement after visits from other countries.
    The whole world supports us !!!!

    At the time, we asked about your confirmation of this statement from the Irish government. If I remember correctly, it was never confirmed !!!

    Can you direct us to any source in the Irish press confirming what was said ?

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 06:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    If you look at the list, the only two countries that I am genuinely disappointed to see supporting Argentina are India and Malaysia.

    India has its Kashmir position to defend...Malaysia, I don't know that one, shame.

    However, the 60 supporting the UK....hmm...lots off so-fars list....and Paul's list...and erm....oh there it is....the good ol US of A.

    Hmmm interesting!

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 06:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    clyde.
    no.
    lol
    the uk govt is pretty alone in this matter.
    not even roger waters or morrissey support the uk govt´s claim.
    http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/mar/02/falkland-islands-belong-argentina-morrissey
    http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/mar/02/falkland-islands-belong-argentina-morrissey
    i guess most of the british must think like them

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 06:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    Brasil and all CPLP support Argentina.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0SdKPv_LsQ

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 07:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    64

    We know...they are included in “the 40”.

    However 22 Latin States, the three most corrupt and broken countries outside Latam, and a bunch of non-democracies with appalling human rights records, doesn't make “the whole world”, it doesn't even make a majority, or even a close run thing.....

    So far....was “so far” from the truth

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 07:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Why you not complain abt all the foreign navies that visit South American countries,
    Yet condemn the British,

    If you have all these powerful dedicated and loyal countries behind you,
    Why not you come and take them,
    The reason is simple is it not-?

    MAN or MOUSE,
    Squeak squeak ..lol
    CFK all mouth and no dignity..

    .

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 07:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • so_far

    # 64 obrigado Brasileiro, we know that Brasil and Argentina are togheter for ever...

    oi.....that doesn´t means Neymar will beat Messi in world Cuo 2014

    eso não va a suceder, amigo

    :-)

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 07:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    Portugal abstained from voting because of the Treaty of Alliance with England. The remaining CPLP countries follow Brazil in any vote.

    Obrigado so_far.

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 07:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    @68

    So what?

    22 Latin countries.....plus tin pot dictatorships, non-democracies...and Syria...lol

    How proud you must be.

    However 60 countries didn't...looks like you lost again...and “the world” doesn't support Argentina...in fact very little of it does!

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 07:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Spain does not really support Argentina,

    Its only a ploy, and because they have fallen out with Britain at the moment,

    It is not in spains future interest to support Argentina,
    Especially whilst she has two bits of territory on the Moroccan coast..

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 07:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Monkey

    Celac. Taste it.

    Celac. Feel it.

    Celac. Hear it?

    No? Great!

    By the way. Keep borrowing and don't pay your debts. You convinced me.
    I think some 20 Trillions is optimal. I'm not sure though, ask Obama...

    ;)

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 07:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    And we're back to trillions of debt.

    Next..... shooting 4 year old girls. *sob. I mean I look into my daughter's eyes and .......

    Blah blah blah

    2014 Falkland Islands are STILL British.

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 07:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • so_far

    tic tac

    tic tac

    http://www.debtbombshell.com/

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 07:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    sounds like celery,
    green , soggy, and to many bugs on it,

    a bit celac really.

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 07:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    stevie....you really have a serious issue comparing apples to oranges. You confuse expanding debt with not paying debt. Argentina is the one not paying debt. We all know you are programmed with a communist slant wrapped around anti-capitalism, but the UK, USA , EU are paying there debt........you my dear are analyzing the P&L to the balance sheet and that does not work. You can say it all you want deep from within your hatred of the developed world, but we are not going away.......ever in your lifetime.

    One more thing.......defaulting and refusing to pay contractual obligated debts is not reducing debt by managing finances. Argentina is going to implode and my biggest fear is that I will be there when it happens. Scarier than being in a firefight with a central american covering your ass.

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 07:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    Celac....corrupt failed states
    celac....massive inferiority complex
    celac...achieved nothing

    Stevie...keep having sufficient amount of wealth with the people to allow government borrowing to help grow their pensions.

    .....or...your way...keep the people piss poor, or the money with the government...miraculously disappearing offshore...then borrow from foreign states and refuse to pay it back...

    Yep, Stevie you convinced me...I want to be a Uruguayan peasant with delusions of grandeur...just like you

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 07:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redrow

    @ Paul

    When an article refers to “lawmakers” it generally means members of the national parliament but not necessarily members of the government or even the opposition. Therefore if you can find 2 left-wing MPs with Che t-shirts to support Argentina then you can rightly claim you have the support of lawmakers from that country. For the UK, you could try Galloway or Corbyn - but anyone claiming that UK lawmakers support Argentine colonisation of the Falklands just because you can find a handful, would look pretty foolish given that the other ~600 are against, as are all the mainstream parties. Now that you understand this you may wish to reconsider whether to bring up Ireland, who voted with the UK (see 48 above) when it mattered and whose government (or indeed opposition) has yet to issue support for Argentine colonisation to my knowledge, despite your link.

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 07:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    No, no, no....@77

    Stevie speaks for “the rest of the world”, he told us...not interested in UNGA votes or democracy...just ask racist turd Stevie for “the world view”.

    He also believes he has discovered “free energy” and his mission is to revolutionise Uruguays energy industry followed by a Nobel prize for Physics.

    He also claimed to have developed a new politics with prosperity for all, untried in any country ever, which will deliver his Nobel prize for economics, despite the fact he is utterly clueless about economics and thinks the UK owes a foreign government £1 trillion and is refusing to pay!!!!

    I am sure in Stevies mind he is also in line for a peace prize..I can't wait for his next “theory”

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 07:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brit Bob

    More like Argentina's 'Illegitimate sovereignty claims'

    It is about time that Ban Ki-Moon stepped up to the plate in accordance with UN General Resolution 11th December 2013, dated 11th December 2013,

    Paragraph 11 - 'Requests the Secretary-General to continue, through all means at his disposal, to inform world public opinion of any activity that affects the exercise of the right of the peoples of the Non-Self-governing Territories to self-determination in conformity with the Charter and General Assembly resolution 1514 (xv).'

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 07:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    I said he convinced me.
    UK should pay like USA until they paid themselves to a debt of the size of some 20T.
    Towel economics it is called. The more you dry, the wetter it gets...

    20T should be the ultimate receipt... Or you think it's too low?

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 07:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Actually so_far is wrong.

    The UK, Australia, NZ and Canada also support the “legitimate rights of Argentina in the sovereignty dispute over the Malvinas, South Georgia and Sandwich and surrounding maritime spaces”.

    But no one has ever actually shown a single legitimate Argentine right.

    Empty rhetoric is just that, empty.

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 07:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    Stevie

    The size of the debt is set by the amount available at the interest rate you are prepared to pay.

    What is the current rate offered by the UK government on its bonds...and there is £1 trillion of takers.

    Yet Latam can offer 5x that and nobody wants them...nobody wants Argentine bonds at any price...odd!

    So, perhaps it is odd to you that UK “masses” would rather lend their government money and get a return in the future, and world class benefits and services...

    than the Latam model...of give your politicians money whilst they steal it and you live in squalor..

    Poor Stevie, still confused, still lost..still racist

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 08:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    I agree Monkey.
    Let me help out... ... ... Where are the towels at?
    We have 3T to dry wet...

    How about those 1.5T owed to external creditors though? And that nasty 5k/sec interest?

    People ask you know...

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 08:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • so_far

    no matter if you accept it or not...is irrelevent.

    This is the true list of supporters of each side, UK is only outlaw and criminal people in world eyes.

    ARGENTINA:

    CHINA, RUSSIA, USA, UNASUR, OAS, UNITED NATIONS, C-24 DES-COLONIZATION COMITTE, ARAB LEGUE, RIO Group, ASA (South American African Countries), MERCOSUR, CELAC , BRIC plus

    Group 77 + CHINA:

    Afghanistan, Algeria, Angola, Antigua and Barbuda, A rgentina, Bahamas, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Barbados, Belize, Benin, Bhutan, Bolivia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Botswana, Brazil, Brunei Darussalam, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Cambodia, Cameroon, Cabo Verde, Central African Republic, Chad, ChileChina, Colombia, Comoros, Congo, Costa Rica, Côte d'Ivoire, Cuba, Democratic People's Republic of Korea, Congo, Djibouti, Dominica, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, Egypt, El Salvador, Equatorial Guinea, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Fiji, Gabon, Gambia, Ghana, Grenada, Guatemala, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Guyana, Haiti, Honduras, India, Indonesia, Iran , Iraq, Jamaica, Jordan, Kenya, Kiribati, Kuwait, Lao People's Democratic Republic, Lebanon, Lesotho, Liberia, Libya, Madagascar, Malawi, Malaysia, Maldives, Mali, Marshall Isls, Mauritania, Mauritius, Micronesia (Federated States of), Mongolia, Morocco, Mozambique, Myanmar, Namibia, Nauru, Nepal, Nicaragua, Niger, Nigeria, Oman, Pakistan, Panama, Papua New Guinea, Paraguay, Peru, Philippines, Qatar, Rwanda, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Samoa, Sao Tome and Principe, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Seychelles, Sierra Leone, Singapore, Solomon Islands, Somalia, South Africa, Sri Lanka, State of Palestine, Sudan, Suriname, Swaziland, Syrian Arab Republic, Tajikistan, Thailand, Timor-Leste, Togo, Tonga, Trinidad and Tobago, Tunisia, Turkmenistan, Uganda, United Arab Emirates, United Republic of Tanzania, Uruguay, Vanuatu, Venezuela, VietNam, Yemen, Zambia snf Zimbabwe.

    UK

    Canada, NZ & Australia

    Special mention to the support of the Pocklington Mayor’s

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 08:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • cornelius

    The Latam countries are idiots to hang around losers no wonder the Bolivarian and Cuban economies are the most successful in the world so that is why they try to emulate them, what a bunch of losers.

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 08:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • BOTINHO

    CELAC created by a Dictator 40+ years and still in power.

    If Cuba were actually to have freedom of the press, and fair and open elections, it might validate CELAC. But for Cuba to laud Nicaragua in extending the term limits of yet another Dictatorship ( not Somoza this time, but Ortega ), shows what Cuba and CELAC are really interested in promoting.

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 08:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Wow so_far. Argentina has so much support.

    Awesome.

    So what's the plan? I mean it's 2014. Surely all this support actually means something will now happen.

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 08:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    So why did none of them vote with you at the UN.

    Is it because they don't actually support you but your government tells you they do...oh dear more happy clappy for the fascist Kirchner regimes lies ...hehehehehehe

    Stevie...keep trolling...you know the truth..just makes you look a penis!

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 08:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brit Bob

    @84 According to CFK quoted in the BA Herald yesterday Argentina's Malvinas aspirations are supported by ''every global organisation in the world''
    So that must include the WWF, WBC and World Darts Association. Awesome. Lol

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 08:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    “The declaration also rejects the US blockade on Cuba and............”

    And at one stroke, proved the hypocritical nature of the organisation. Proved the worthlessness and lack-of-back-bone of all of its members.

    Shame on you all!! shame on you all!! You denounce the US for blockading Cuba and yet you say nothing about argentina's blockade of the Falkland Islands, Shame on you all!!

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 09:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • been-there

    ignore them... they all belong to a culture of grandiloquents expressions of political leadership, always with the good of the people in mind especially the less fortunate... after that, only emptiness... they haven't found yet how to put into practice all those empty statements, and this is true for any country in Latin America

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 09:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @43 Oh, come on. Who reads out the comments for you and takes down your dictation? Go back to @40 and READ, you ignorant moron. Or is that you can't because your head's so far up your arse that all is DARK?
    @47 Proof? You know, where all these countries are clamouring their support? Couple of tips. First one. Imagine these conversations. “We want something off these tossers. If we let them say that we support them, we'll get it. Later on, we'll deny it”. Next; “It dago-fella say we friends. We like friends. How do Britain respond massa? Oh shit!” Do you deserve points? Depends. Did you copy and paste that list from the website of the argie ministry of lies and propaganda? No points. Did you type it out yourself? One point for effort. Minus five points for lying. And I do think you ought to avoid creating organisations and then saying they support you. You can also exclude anywhere that you bribe, bully, coerce, con, threaten. So you're left with the other pariah states.
    @49 But spain isn't a country. It's a liquid fart. And dragging up the unauthorised words of a spanish liquid fart drip is hardly right.
    @53, 55 Will do as they are told. Both know where the real power is!
    @56 No, we just want to make argieland pay for its 200 years of crimes. What's the right word and operation? Culling 40 million? Destroying bacteria? One genocide deserves another? Warm up the gas chambers?
    @63 Such desperation. Dredging up a couple of pieces of shite. You “guess” wrong! As ever. But if the support of a couple of faggots is important to you......!
    @64 There you go. Shit follows shit!
    @71 CELAC. Be like argieland. Shit on it!
    @83 Where are the towels? Up your arse. Trying to staunch the flow. Shouldn't let half a dozen argies do you at the same time. All six together might make half an inch. And so they are known as pin-pricks. Still, do you have a man with which to compare them? Thought not!
    @84 Nothing else? Just a copy and paste abuse I reported?

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  • Britworker

    Interesting how the rest of the world is actually viewing this ridiculous summit, they seem to be quite surprised Cuba's human rights record didn't get a mention.

    http://internacional.elpais.com/internacional/2014/01/30/actualidad/1391036983_018365.html

    Jan 30th, 2014 - 10:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • St.John

    The Commenwealth ratifies full support for the United Kingdom's “legitimate sovereignty” claim over the Falkland Islands.

    Celac is based on 'unrestricted respect for the purposes and principles of the UN Charter and International Law“ ... ”for the welfare of our peoples“.

    Hilarous nonsense completely disconnected from the reality in most of the Celac countries.

    President Raúl Castro is president of the tropical East Germany.

    I have spent a month in Cuba, one week in Finca Fanguito.
    http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/5257484.jpg
    http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/5257484.jpg
    People who live there acknowledged my personal observations.

    ”strongest support for the legitimate rights of Argentina in the sovereignty dispute over the Malvinas, South Georgia and Sandwich and surrounding maritime spaces”

    I support those legitimate rights too! and the Martians' legitimate rights to Uranus, etc. - unfortunately such legitimate rights do not exist.

    Jan 31st, 2014 - 02:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    I fully agree with CELAC's statement regarding the Falkland Islands.

    'Reiteramos nuestro más firme respaldo a los legítimos derechos de la República Argentina en la disputa de soberanía por las Islas Malvinas, Georgias del Sur y Sandwich del Sur y los espacios marítimos circundantes, así como el permanente interés en que dicha disputa se resuelva por la vía pacífica y de la negociación, conforme lo dispuesto por la Resolución 31/49 de la Asamblea General de las Naciones Unidas.'

    Translated as:
    'We reiterate our very strong support for the legitimate rights of the Republic of Argentina in the sovereignty dispute over the Falkland Islands, South Georgia and South Sandwich Islands and the surrounding maritime spaces, and our lifelong interest in such dispute is resolved by the path of peaceful negotiation pursuant to the provisions of Resolution 31/49 of the General Assembly of the United Nations. '

    http://celac.cubaminrex.cu/sites/default/files/ficheros/declaracion_revedtda_270114_espanol.pdf

    Sounds entirely reasonable to me. Indeed I think it is perfect. And I totally support such a declaration.

    What you will notice is:
    1/ it doesn't say that Argentina has or should have sovereignty
    2/ it doesn't say that the Falkland Islanders shouldn't have self determination

    What many fail to realise is that 9 of 33 CELAC member states (27% of members) have Queen Elizabeth II as their head of state. The same head of state as the Falkland Islands.

    Have they started to realise how worthless that statement really is yet?

    Jan 31st, 2014 - 06:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • downunder

    #95 Anglotino
    ”What many fail to realise is that 9 of 33 CELAC member states (27% of members) have Queen Elizabeth II as their head of state. The same head of state as the Falkland Islands. ”

    Good point Anglotino!

    Jan 31st, 2014 - 09:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    And they STILL support Argentina?

    Quite telling indeed...

    Jan 31st, 2014 - 09:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Yes political free will is amazing and totally contrary to the communist way of thinking.

    Jan 31st, 2014 - 09:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    @97

    Interestingly though, they dont support Argentina though...for our Caribbean Friends..

    In 2008 at the UNGA, Belize and Jamaica aand Haiti and Guyana and St Lucia all voted with the UK

    Antigua and Barbuda, Bahamas, Dominica, St kitts and Nevis abstained and a few were absent.

    Not quite the Universal support you claim is it...?

    In fact....NOT A SINGLE COUNTRY where the Queen is head of State...supported Argentina.

    so...your post at 97...is 100% wrong...like all your posts!

    Telling indeed!

    Jan 31st, 2014 - 10:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Yesterday, they all supported Argentina.

    Quite telling indeed...

    Jan 31st, 2014 - 10:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    Don't think so Stevie..they said any legitimate rights should be resolved through negotiation.

    As there are no legitimate rights and Argentina refused negotiations in London..seems like next time at the UN they will vote the same way again...

    Poor Stevie...

    Jan 31st, 2014 - 10:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #100
    Yes Stevie and the practical result will be ?
    “ and demand the compliance with the aid commitments for development, by the developed countries””
    We don't like you but give us your money ?.

    We Celac country members are committed to continue working in the framework of the rule of the law and more specifically Resolution 1514 from the UN General Assembly (14 December 1960, so as to achieve that the whole region of Latin America and the Caribbean become a territory free of colonialism and colonies”
    So Argentina has given up it's desire to colonise the Falklands !
    I applaud them for this volte face.

    Jan 31st, 2014 - 10:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    Clyde

    indeed. Resolution 1514 talks a lot about the wishes of the people of NSGTs, and the end to them not being able to self determine their own form of government.

    Id vote for that too!

    Jan 31st, 2014 - 11:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    I totally support Argentina in her legitimate rights.

    Just like CELAC did.

    Jan 31st, 2014 - 01:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    I totally support THE FALKLANDERS in her legitimate rights.
    Unlike CELAC did

    Jan 31st, 2014 - 01:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • cornelius

    Paraguay Peru Chile Uruguay Colombia support quietly Britain.

    Jan 31st, 2014 - 01:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ljordao

    CELAC = Community of eternal losers against capitalism.

    Jan 31st, 2014 - 02:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • dab14763

    ”so as to achieve that the whole region of Latin America and the Caribbean become a territory free of colonialism and colonies”

    The Falklands aren't in Latin America or the Caribbean.

    Jan 31st, 2014 - 03:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Gordo1

    “respect for self determination” - very important!

    Jan 31st, 2014 - 05:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brit Bob

    Argie Annual Inflation Rate Now Estimated at 63%.

    http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/letter-editor-inflation-rate-63-argentina

    now 64%....

    Jan 31st, 2014 - 07:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Philippe

    So celac met, of all places in Cuba, the CLOACA MAXIMA of the Americas, which is ruled by “general” Raul Castro. No kidding!
    Then, do not be surprised if the dictator of North Korea, Kim Jong-un is invited to the next celac conference to join Latin America's dictocrats.
    PS. The important thing is to abide by the OAS Inter-American Democratic Charter
    Article 1
    The peoples of the Americas have a right to democracy and their governments have an obligation to promote it and defend it. Etc., etc.
    No kidding,

    Philippe

    Jan 31st, 2014 - 08:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    HMG really worried abour the CELAC decleration.

    Duhh, not!

    Jan 31st, 2014 - 08:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • nigelpwsmith

    64% inflation.

    Holy crap.

    No government can survive with that inflation level.

    I would be shocked if CFK was not deposed in a Coup before the end of this year.

    Given that most of the other CELAG dictators are also suffering riots from discontented citizens, one Coup may follow another....

    And then the dominoes fall....

    Jan 31st, 2014 - 10:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    @63
    “not even roger waters or morrissey support the uk govt´s claim.”
    how or why is this relevant or important?

    ridiculous comment, you use the opinion of a 2 lefty ministrels without any influence to support your 'arguement'?

    BAAAAAAAAAAAHJAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHA!

    Fool!
    @112 RC
    Agreed! They are just blowing in the wind. No 'serious' country will take any notice

    Jan 31st, 2014 - 10:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    @114
    Gotta piss them off that the UK does not even bother to dignify their decleration with a response. At least I have not read one yet.

    Jan 31st, 2014 - 10:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Oh right, rc... We forgot to ask... What do you guys think?

    Jan 31st, 2014 - 11:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Matters not what I think.

    Did I post the Celac decleration?

    Think not.

    Where's the UK response?

    Where's the US response?

    Where's the UN resspone?

    Where:s Chinas response!

    Where's the EU response?

    For that matter, where's anyones response? List one!

    Your as bad as them.

    Child! grow up for fuck sake!

    Feb 01st, 2014 - 12:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    And who cares what they think?

    Did somebody ask?

    Feb 01st, 2014 - 12:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • inthegutter

    #118

    “And who cares what they think?”

    Given that their support is the only way you'd get your thieving imperialist hand on the Falklands I would have thought you'd care?

    Even if CELAC had demanded the Falklands to be given to Argentina it would change NOTHING.

    Pathetic Stevie.

    Feb 01st, 2014 - 07:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    You think so?

    I think it's a matter of time...

    Feb 01st, 2014 - 08:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    @120

    They did ask at the UN Stevie...in 2008. Only 18 non-Latin countries supported Argentina.

    Just 18...

    yet, 59 supported the UK...and apparently (according to you) the whole world hates us....hahahahahahah

    Seems like you are full of shit....

    Feb 01st, 2014 - 09:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Tic tac

    Tic tac

    Tic tac

    Feb 01st, 2014 - 09:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • nigelpwsmith

    It's par for the course and perfectly normal for Argentina to lie when they say the world supports their cause.

    They even claim that the British do as well by rigging the poll in the Daily Telegraph.

    They lie about the history of the Falklands as well.

    They claim that the Argentine Islanders were expelled - they were not.
    They claim that Jewett was sent to the Islands to claim them - he was not.
    They claim that they 'inherited' the islands, upon independence, but they did not.
    They claim that the Islanders are a temporary population & implanted - they are not.
    They claim that Britain seized South Georgia & the South Sandwich Islands from Argentina - we did not.

    They teach these lies and more to all their school children, to make them the purveyor of lies too.

    So what's one more lie to them?

    One more sin they will have to answer for, by persuading CELAC to repeat their lies.

    There will be a heavy reckoning for Argentina when they face judgment.

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  • Anglotino

    What do Tic-Tacs have to do with anything?

    http://www.tictac.com.au/en/

    Feb 01st, 2014 - 11:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    l wondered about the Tic-Tacs too, until l realised it was Steviespeak for tick-tock.
    At least he has stopped hysterically raving about us killing women & children! lol.
    Give me tic tac anyday!

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  • Clyde15

    As Stevie says, tic-toc, the clock moves on and the meeting and resolution drop back into obscurity as all delegates have to deal with REAL problems besetting THEIR nations, the Falklands not being one !!

    Feb 01st, 2014 - 12:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    And stop killing women and children!

    Feb 01st, 2014 - 12:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Oder 1001

    84 so_far (#)
    please clarify how many of the countries have said“ the Falklands are Argentine” I am not asking for the numbers that support “talks”
    but the actual numbers that support the Argentine claim

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  • Captain Poppy

    #128 good luck with that search.

    Feb 01st, 2014 - 02:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #127
    Personally I never have and I do not know anyone still alive who did.

    How about you, when will you stop killing women and children ?

    Feb 01st, 2014 - 03:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    And your debt. Pay your debt.

    4.5T is not ok, regardless of how much Monkey has borrowed...

    Feb 01st, 2014 - 03:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • cornelius

    @127 the left killed more people in Argentina and the world than any other ideology at least 100 million, just in the soviet union 25, ooo.ooo million.
    They killed everybody not just woman and children.
    Just need to read the papers and see the crime the horrors stories that the working people are subjected every day and the impunity that follow every crime, take a look at Venezuela your lefties idiots about 60.000 innocent people filled every year by thugs and government enforcers the red shirts brigade of the Chavez monkey regime now at the hands of and ignorant bastard.
    And in Argentina is represented by another criminal group which is headed son of kretina call “La Campora”
    Bring the military back to clean this mess!

    Feb 01st, 2014 - 06:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    What ideology did Stalin have, you say?

    Is there any ideology at all that states killing off the opposition as the main path to success?

    Are you again being selective?

    Why do I even bother?

    Bring the military back, you say?

    ...

    ...

    What military?

    ;)

    Feb 01st, 2014 - 06:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    Monkeymagic & so-far, don't wory about the Brazzo in #64...he doesn't know his ass from his elbow.....and when he claims that “” Brasil and all CPLP support Argentina”, he's totally wrong...about 75 % of the people don't even know what's going on - they don't read the paper - they use it to wipe their ass, as does Brazzo and his friends....the PT infested federal goverment obviously supports Argentina's claims.....the educated people, excluding the 'pseudo-intelectuals' who, for convenience's sake, publicly identify themselves with Lula and Dilma, don't support CFK's absurd claims...but who gives a pig's ass what the CELAC ratifies...

    Feb 01st, 2014 - 10:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 133 Stevie
    “What military?”

    In Uruguay you could say the military that took over after they had routed the Tupamaros.

    You know the Tupas, ignorant rabble, most of whom never finished school and decided to take the government by force because there wasn’t enough support for them take it in elections.

    But the laugh was when the military were let off the leash and really started to deal with the Tupas, admittedly in a crass manner, the Tupas RAN AWAY to Sweden.

    You know, like your mom and dad which gave you a proper start in life and you learnt English and a career and earned good money but now you are twisted up inside with guilt over “the poor” and you want “brotherly love from SA”.

    Perhaps he meant that military!

    Feb 01st, 2014 - 10:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Stevie your mantra is always one of the samae.....pay your debt. UK EU and the USA DOES pay their debt. Unless your contention is that nations should be debtfree? SHould that not apply to SA nations as well? Have them stop borrowing and defaulting.....and then trying to issue new bonds.

    PAY YOUR DEFAULTED CONTRACTUALLY OBLIGATED DEBT THAT YOU DO NOT PAY

    Feb 01st, 2014 - 11:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Speaking of debt. Argentina is running its largest primary budget deficit for 20 years.

    Spending more than they earn. Living beyond their means.

    That's norty, norty according to Stevie.

    Feb 02nd, 2014 - 01:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • aussie sunshine

    The Falklands cannot ignore this vote by CELAC!! It is isolated in the area!! NOBODY in The Americas support them.....

    Feb 02nd, 2014 - 02:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Chris
    Oh, THAT military...
    That lot is older than you by now, most of them in jail or running away from justice.

    Nothing a slap couldn't deal with, a so-called tatequieto...

    The Tupas did upset them, didn't they? Taking that photographer was a mastermove, his tongue was so loose they didn't even have to ask any questions...

    4 torturers and murders lives costed the Orga the battle, but look at us now.

    We won the war...

    ;)

    Poppy
    Pay your debts and stop inventing excuses.

    Anglolatino
    You lot are running your largest primary, secondary and tertiary budget defecit... ever.

    Do a Poppy.

    Feb 02nd, 2014 - 05:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • downunder

    On the one hand we have Canada, (a large influential country situated in the Americas) who actively supports the right of the Falkland Islanders to self-determination and is prepared to put its money where its mouth is and help fund that process.
    On the other we have the likes of Venezuela and Cuba who recently supported a rather confusing declaration that pays lip service to Argentina’s colonial ambitions in the South Atlantic.

    The Falkland Islanders have powerful friends, friends who are prepared to pay more than lip service to ensure that they remain free.

    Feb 02nd, 2014 - 08:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    What the hell is a tertiary deficit?

    Or a secondary one for that matter.

    Great comeback Stevie. I mean..... awesome.

    Duck!

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  • Oder 1001

    138 aussie sunshine

    that was and still is happening now, what do you predict? the UK will surrender.... when?.... not in your lifetime sunshine the Falklands have had isolation all their existence, water on a duck`s back?

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  • Stevie

    I never retired, Anglolatino...

    I'm gear to listen to all your concerns on the continent everybody talks about.

    Not that your opinions matters more than a fart in the Atlantic, but see it as good tourism service...

    Feb 02nd, 2014 - 09:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • nigelpwsmith

    @138
    “NOBODY in The Americas support them.....”

    What utter rubbish.

    CELAC does not represent all the Latin & South American states, let alone all the states in the Americas.

    Canada supports the Falkland Islands.
    Bermuda supports the Falkland Islands.
    British Virgin Islands supports the Falkland Islands.
    The Turks and Caicos Islands supports the Falkland Islands.
    Anguilla supports the Falkland Islands.
    Cayman Islands supports the Falkland Islands.
    Montserrat supports the Falkland Islands.
    Saint Martin supports the Falkland Islands.
    The BES Islands supports the Falkland Islands.
    Saint Barthelemy supports the Falkland Islands.
    Guadaloupe supports the Falkland Islands.
    Aruba supports the Falkland Islands.
    Curacao supports the Falkland Islands.
    Bonaire supports the Falkland Islands.

    The United States sits on the fence and won't say either way, but they do support the United Kingdom and did so during the Falklands War.
    Puerto Rico also sits on the fence.
    As does the US Virgin Islands.

    That's quite a list of places in the Americas which support the Falkland Islands and not all of them are in the Commonwealth.

    Argentina claims support from countries who don't even support them. They even tried to claim that the rigged Daily Telegraph poll, Roger Waters and Morrissey was proof that Great Britain supported them - when that is absolute rubbish.

    I suspect that many of the CELAC members did not want to support Argentina either, but were outvoted by the Spanish speaking South American states.

    A vast number of the citizens of most of the South American states do not support Argentina. They hate Argentines. They consider them arrogant trouble makers, cheats. liars and thieves.

    It will be interesting to see how many South American states come to Argentina's aid when the inevitable financial collapse comes.

    Most will want to stand around watching like bystanders at an accident with hands in pockets claiming it's nothing to do with them.

    Feb 02nd, 2014 - 09:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    All colonies supporting a colony...

    There is a reason the population is kept low, you know?

    There is also a reason USA and Canada weren't invited...

    We know...

    Feb 02nd, 2014 - 09:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 139 Stevie
    “We won the war”

    Yes, I think most of us are confused by your definitions in your posts.

    If anything the rump of the Tupas have caused even more damage to the working population of the country when in “government” than they ever did when they were terrorists. Shall we list the achievements that our Glorious Leader Pepe has given the people he “rules” (his words).
    1) an ongoing debt programme that will take at least two generations to pay back, and for what? (see below)
    2) bloated “government” of the lowest class of people who in the most part have not finished school and have no interest in their jobs, road cleaners mostly and other labouring positions. Keeps the unemployment down though doesn’t it? Doesn’t bring any real tax into the system though.
    3) the highest tax loading on the continent and most probably in the world and what do we tax payers get for our money? Cleanish streets, the main ones anyway. Overburdened with labour “services” not many of which see themselves as a service, just the opposite. Er, that’s it.
    4) very important medical departments run by mates of Pepe: the Toxicology Dept for Maldonado run by an ex-pizza manager! The “government” run by ignorant bastards, at least one of whom is a drunkard and braggart (your “close” friend no less).
    5) caved in to The Dark Country’s demand for “tax transparency” when they have none resulting in a major bank leaving the country and Uruguay being known as the pyria of “advanced” countries as far as investors are concerned.

    And, as we all know, I could go on about the Social Inclusion Programme, the one that gives money to the poor lazy bastards and the reason why Pepe was asked to “compete” in the Nobel Prize Programme against a few others, but like the Tupa he is he ran away!

    I won’t even mention the other economic disasters.

    Feb 02nd, 2014 - 10:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Chris
    You sound like one that hasn't been in the country for more than a couple of years...

    It's ok, you wont be for long either.

    Remembered to use your pension this month?

    Every man has a purpose, you know...

    Feb 02nd, 2014 - 11:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @122 “Tic tac”?
    It's a brand of mint. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tic_Tac
    What's the relevance?
    @127 Why? You do. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tic_Tac
    And do you mean “children” like these? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tic_Tac
    @133 Islam!
    @138 Don't be a silly willy. What does CELAC mean to the Falkland Islands or the UK? “Criminal Evil Latin American Countries”. What is CELAC going to DO? Attack? Invade? NOTHING! The UK pays little or no attention to the UN on this subject. 193 members. And you think your little pipsqueaks can make a difference? It can gabble all it likes. The Falkland Islands will remain FREE, DEMOCRATIC and, for the time being, BRITISH. Until the Islanders are ready, in their own time, for independence.

    Feb 02nd, 2014 - 11:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Well... except conqui, of course.

    The meaning with his existance is still covered in mud...

    Feb 02nd, 2014 - 12:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Stevie

    “I never retired, Anglolatino...”
    Never said you did. Is that what the voices in your head said I said?

    “I'm gear to listen to all your concerns on the continent everybody talks about.”
    Umm ok. I'm glad you are here to do that. I talk you listen. Pretty much why I comment. Who listens to you though?

    “Not that your opinions matters more than a fart in the Atlantic”
    Never claimed otherwise.

    “but see it as good tourism service...”
    Perfect. Considering I have told thousands of people to visit Colombia and Chile that is actually a good side-effect. Now that I live with 3 Colombians (a new arrival last week), my house is seemingly always packed with Colombians, Venezuelans and Chileans who study or moved here.

    The word is to avoid Venezuela as too dangerous. I tell people who are going to visit Argentina to take US$ and either offer to pay in US$ or find a dolar blue rate. I definitely tell them to avoid official exchange rates.

    Feb 02nd, 2014 - 12:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    I tell all expats and such to use their pensions in our countries.
    They have a tendency to share their opinions on matters that are way off their reach. I listen and laugh while insisting they should spend more.

    People like you, I don't bother with though, as you have no money to spend and your opinions are just as useless...

    Feb 02nd, 2014 - 01:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • aussie sunshine

    The USA and Canada have been thrown out of the club of the CELAC!!
    They have been issued a _persona non grata- invitation....ummmm!!

    Feb 02nd, 2014 - 04:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #152
    You mean that they can't join a club of LOSERS ? Why would they wish to ?

    As long as the members do not come round with the begging bowl, no harm done.

    Feb 02nd, 2014 - 04:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    USA issued a statement.

    Weird thing to do when you don't care...

    ;)

    Feb 02nd, 2014 - 04:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    What did the statement say ?

    Feb 02nd, 2014 - 07:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Usual crap about Cuba...

    I didn't read it though, waste of time as there was no comment section to laugh at...

    Feb 02nd, 2014 - 07:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JollyGoodFun

    @152 - The only two countries with any credibility had they attended CELAC.

    Unfortunately for SA, the war and hostility towards the North Americans will only go one way. It is not a good time to be in SA.....

    The USA and Canada have both the most loyal, wise and influential nations and institutions backing them, and most importantly are key nations within the Anglosphere. Both nations contributions to progress in the world are only surpassed by a very small select few (and this is without taking into account how young the Lions really are).

    The behavior of SA is a kin to a scabies covered mongrel, suffering from malnutrition, barking over a fence at a family building a home for the future and stopping to enjoying a BBQ together. The men of the family try to shoo the mongrel off, alas to no avail.

    The men then throw some meat over hoping to satisfy the dog's hunger.

    The mongrel scoffs the meat and then sets about climbing the fence to attack the children in the garden. The men rightly shoot the damn thing there and then.

    Taking a shovel, they scrape the remains up and throw it back far over the fence.
    The men then follow up with a can of petrol and rightly torch the remains.

    Low and behold the normal animals and wildlife inherit the garden now that the scabby greedy dog is gone.

    A new family sees how beautiful the garden looks and decides to build a nice new home.

    The new neighbors get on well and there's much rejoicing.

    The inevitable crumbling of Argentina is a positive and much celebrated event for the world. We will see which nations go your way.

    Feb 03rd, 2014 - 06:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 151 Stevie

    Oh dear!

    Generalisations again and wrong again! You “told” me to spend my pensions in Uruguay.

    Just a little lesson on how things go. When you are earning the sort of money you do and I earnt a lot more than you, you build your capital up as well as paying for your pension.

    When you retire and you are a capitalist like I am, you invest all your capital and live of the revenue and your pensions.

    You NEVER risk your capital.

    I know this is very difficult for you to understand as you still do not live here and do not understand finance but please try harder to grasp what is going on.

    Feb 03rd, 2014 - 10:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #156
    So, you did not read it but feel qualified to criticise. All you are doing is uttering your in- built prejudices as facts. If it does not conform to your view of the world, it must be wrong.
    I think the USA's attitude to Cuba is unhelpful BUT they are dealing with a dictatorship. Ruled by one family for about 50 years ? Hardly rule by the people which no doubt you expound...or do you ?

    Feb 03rd, 2014 - 11:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • aussie sunshine

    *153 Group of losers!! That is why China has invested billions in the area while The USA and Canada have been left out!!!We are talking about 600 million people in the so called group of losers!! and The UK is running around like a headless chook putting up embassies in all these countries....

    Feb 03rd, 2014 - 12:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #160
    Still 600 million losers..thanks for the count.
    China has no interest in your people...they just want cheap natural resources.
    They will run the show and when the resources have been worked out....bye bye.

    Feb 03rd, 2014 - 12:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • aussie sunshine

    *161 hahahahaha!! love that British humour!!

    Feb 03rd, 2014 - 12:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    157
    Good!
    Stay away.

    161
    That is indeed a possibility with the Chinese, we don't know.
    But we do know it's a fact with USA...

    Feb 03rd, 2014 - 12:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • nigelpwsmith

    TMBOA has already tried to tempt the Chinese to invest in Argentina, but they would rather wait until the country collapses, so they can pick it up on the cheap.

    The Argentine population will be far more pliable when they are reliant on food handouts from their Chinese masters.

    Of course this also means frequent visits by the Chinese Navy to Argentine ports, just to ensure that the Argentines don't try to pull a fast one like they did with Repsol.

    More than likely, any Chinese investment will be guarded by the Chinese Army, making sure that the oil goes where it is supposed to and is not syphoned off from any pipeline. Before long, they will probably be reporting a pipeline explosion, as they frequently have in Nigeria.

    When Argentina collapses, the other CELAC nations will stand around and watch with some satisfaction that the arrogant Argentines are suffering.

    Only Uruguay and Brazil will offer any help, but it will be to try and keep the Argentines from emigrating to them.

    In the meantime, the Falkland Islanders will sit back and watch, safe in the knowledge that not only are they protected, but that they will enjoy a rosy future full of prosperity and peace.

    Feb 03rd, 2014 - 02:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    And all of the sudden, you wake up...

    Feb 03rd, 2014 - 02:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    @160, Aussie Sunshine, just analyze yor statement “”We are talking about 600 million people in the so called group of losers!!“” Might be good to remember that the governments of the CELAC members do NOT represent the entire populations of these countries, far from it....take Brazil for example, a population of 200 million...75% don't even know what CELAC is, nor would they have an opinion if they did....so the fact that the Castro bros, Evito Morales, Nicolás Maduro, Rafael Caldera, Cristina Kirchner , Dilma and a dozen other leftist wannabe dictators, support Argentina, doesn't mean much. So much for your 600 million people...

    Feb 03rd, 2014 - 03:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    You mean the representatives of the countries where they have been elected by the majority of the electorate?

    I don't believe you... ;)

    Feb 03rd, 2014 - 06:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    @167, Stevie, to keep it simple, to be elected, a representative only needs 51 % of the votes...that means that 49% did NOT vote for him...and in underdeveloped countries where it is a notorious fact that the elected representatives only care about themselves, their families, their friends, and in that order, a representaive rarely votes according to the interests of the people....another problem, when dozens of millions live off government subsidies, and form a significant part of that 51%, I don't think a 51% majority is very meaningful....and in Brazil's case, being the country with the largest population in South America, this means that at least 100 million people do NOT support fat-arsed toothiepegs, who, to look good in the photograph, got down on all fours for Fidel ...

    Feb 03rd, 2014 - 08:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    I think you should need to listen to your mate Bush.

    Democracy for the people!

    jaque al rey :)

    Feb 03rd, 2014 - 08:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 164 nigelpwsmith
    “Only Uruguay and Brazil will offer any help, but it will be to try and keep the Argentines from emigrating to them.”

    If only that were so! The numbers of residency seekers is growing in Uruguay, year on year. And guess who make up the larget pool of applicants by an order of magnitude: Argentines.

    Hopefully, these will be the ones with lots of dollars and a brain in their head, we most certainly do not need dim-witted twats that have never finished their schooling because we have enough of those already.

    You will know them as Tupamaros and many of them are in government or stuffed by their mate Pepe into jobs for the boys and girls at the taxpayers’ expense.

    Feb 03rd, 2014 - 08:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • nigelpwsmith

    You're so right about the ones with a brain leaving the country. They know what's coming and they don't want to be there when it does. Scenes reminiscent of Somalia will happen in Buenos Aires with stick thin Argentines pleading for a crust of bread and a bowl of soup.

    It will be a modern catastrophe caused by Campora extremism. An example to all over nations to make sure that they don't vote psychotic bitches into power.

    You have to wonder if someone in the military is already in contact with his counterparts across the border to organise some form of Coup to save Argentina before it is too late.

    Worst of all, it'll cost Uruguay and Brazil a great deal of money to prevent an exodus. You might even have to open refugee camps.

    Not all the people in Uruguay agree with Argentina about the Falklands. Many want to trade with the Falklands and are being prevented from doing so by their own politicians. Let's hope that when TMBOA is finally gone, that the people in Montevideo have a sudden epiphany and open up relations with the Falkland Islanders.

    Feb 03rd, 2014 - 09:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    And a big wave will appear.
    And wash away all sin.
    For forty days blah blah blah...

    We heard it all before...

    Feb 03rd, 2014 - 09:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JollyGoodFun

    Stevie, Stevie, Stevie............. (Takes dissapointed breath)....... You're one crazy rabbid dog......... I've read your comment on here for months before registering. Each time you attempt to deflect the facts of Argentina's imperialist (and made up) claim to the Falklands....... You're like a Sea Gull who constantly swoops down trying to steal food of the unsuspecting...... Little do you realise that people see you coming a mile off.... The world is quickly becoming aware of the factual history of the FI and not the BS you and your RG trolls are indoctrinated with in school...... Argentina never ceases to amaze me with the scale of lies, more lies, and thievery........ It is a good thing for the world that Argentina is/has fallen apart....... I hope the sensible Argentines now take control, route out the Peronists and Malvinistas...... Backwards country needing forward thinking people.

    Feb 03rd, 2014 - 10:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    FI?
    RG?

    U R?

    Feb 03rd, 2014 - 10:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • aussie sunshine

    The only thing I know is that everybody is backing Argentina while The Falklands/malvinas are isolated with no backing.....

    Feb 04th, 2014 - 02:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    @173 ....
    and stevie comes up to eat his biscuit - so expected....
    Good puppy!
    as for 175 ASs - don't even bother feeding, not worth the biscuit. At least stevie will run for a stick that you throw... @175 ArSe will just bark and wimper and then roll over.... Says the same thing all the time because has a brain smaller than a goldfish

    Feb 04th, 2014 - 02:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • aussie sunshine

    Comment removed by the editor.

    Feb 04th, 2014 - 02:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JollyGoodFun

    @176 - And he has a manhood the size of a worms nose to go with the brain (or lack of). I know this as his mother brought it up last night. I told her it was a strange comment and rightly told her she's not my type, that and the fact that she clearly had genital warts (and they were around her mouth).

    I do believe he (aussie sunshine) has threatened you with an act of physical violence. Little do we know that he means it as an act of love and kindness.

    The same love and kindness his mother and father (who is also his uncle) showed to him as a wee pup.

    @177 change your tag name you Argentine Troll - I'm sitting next to several Australians who want to put a bullet in your rabid dog's head.

    Feb 04th, 2014 - 02:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • aussie sunshine

    *178 ohhhhh!! getting to you?? am I?? GOOD!! let me make a suggestion. Save one of those bullets for your silly brain..and put it to sleep!!

    Feb 04th, 2014 - 03:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JollyGoodFun

    @179 - ha ha princess. The only thing you've achieved is not staying on topic.

    Silly Argentinian - A crumbling nation, where only the poor and deprived will exist.

    It is sad that you do not have your countrymen's needs as your priority.

    Feb 04th, 2014 - 03:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • aussie sunshine

    180 I am not argentine and have no countrymen!! I am a lonewolf and only worry about my own hide!!!

    Feb 04th, 2014 - 03:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JollyGoodFun

    @181 - Pull the other one!

    You've already given the game away on many occasions. Lonewolf = Rabid Argentine mongrel!

    So how bad is it in Argentina these days?

    How on Earth has your Regime let it get so bad?

    I imagine social unrest is on a knife edge.......

    I genuinely feel for the normal Argentinians - Not long now for the Malvinistas/Peronists, may they lock you up and throw away the key.

    Feb 04th, 2014 - 03:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • aussie sunshine

    182 I repeat: I am not argentine or have any countrymen or country.I go where I please and have no allegiance to any government!! better that way..believe me.
    Couldn´t care a shit what´s happening in Argie land......or timbuktu.

    Feb 04th, 2014 - 03:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JollyGoodFun

    @183 - It's obvious you couldn't give a shit about your fellow countrymen. Thanks for confirming my original statement.

    You can get paid far more outside of the Kirchnista circle of influence (or lack of).

    You've given the game away far too many times. I feel sorry for you in that you'll probably not get paid once ousted.

    It must be tough for you guys working for the Dark Country Regime. It'll be better once the crash is complete.

    Feb 04th, 2014 - 03:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    @184
    You just 'owned' him completely! Thanks for being a gent too!

    Made him look like a complete fool. Which he is. As I said before “ @175 ArSe will just bark and wimper and then roll over....” Which he did.

    Anyway, back on topic. Something that aussie-arsewipe stuggles with... CELAC ratified... blah, blah. This was hardly reported in the press in Europe, USA or China as no important powerful or influential country gives a damn.
    That is the reality of CELAC, a 'talking shop' invented by Chavez and Castro.
    So let us take a look at the legacy and economic guidelines Ma-Burro and gang wish to provide now for the rest of CELAC,
    A Public Service Announcement * Feb 4, 2014
    --- Official Bolivarian ‘Wonderland’ Exchange Rate in Venezuela ---
    BCV 6.3Bsf / 1USD (SICAD 11.3Bsf /1 USD)
    ----Today’s Reality Cheque --- The ‘Lechuga Verde’ or ‘Blue Dollar’
    81.46 Bsf / 1 USD
    106.97 Bsf / 1 Euro
    See http://dolartoday.com/
    Brought to you by Ilsen Publications ©2014 (*because dolartoday.com website is blocked in Vnzla by the current ‘administration’/dictatorship and the Press are banned from reporting it)

    So, a currency where the USD is worth 12.93 times more on the 'street' and government censorship of economic news websites.
    Sounds good huh?
    Ok more legacy for you.
    24000 violent deaths in Venezuela last year - more than Iraq and their have internal religious/political war. In Venezuela it was just crime... just crime... because the the economy is in freefall.
    I could go on but it might be too many words for the trolls to count...
    So, is this what anyone would want for Argentina?
    remember waht Ma-burro said?
    http://dolartoday.com/

    oh dear, oh dear oh dear. Argentina - FAIL

    Feb 04th, 2014 - 04:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Aussie Sunshine is believe it or not, Spanish.

    Though he may has spent in Australia, he definitely ain't.

    Thank God.

    Feb 04th, 2014 - 06:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Hahahaha!!!

    Let me roll up a bit, to see what nerve I hit...

    Oh yes, we vote, you cry

    In that order.

    Hahahahaha!!

    Feb 04th, 2014 - 08:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @186 Anglotino,
    Thats my conclusion also.
    He's a Spaniard.
    Nothing wrong with being a Spañol, but hes NOT an Aussie.

    Feb 04th, 2014 - 09:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • downunder

    #186/188 Aussie sunshine my arse! Sound more like argentine bs to me!

    Feb 04th, 2014 - 10:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Are you being racist?

    Feb 04th, 2014 - 10:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • nigelpwsmith

    The currencies do not lie. Economic statistics can be 'massaged', but the exchange rate on the street says it all.

    Both Argentina and Venezuela are failed economies. Sure there are plenty of resources, but through economic mismanagement at the top, followed by thieving at every level below, the economic edifice is crumbling.

    No wonder the IMF is so concerned. No wonder that the settlement of the Repsol robbery is taking so long to finalise. They don't want to be stuck with worthless bonds, when the country collapses. They'll step back in and take back what they owned when Argentina is on its knees.

    CELAC is merely a talking shop for third rate bankrupt countries and their neighbours, who would most probably rather not be there, but talking with the proven economies like the United States or Canada.

    Feb 04th, 2014 - 10:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    And... why don't they?

    By all means, accelerate.

    Can't bloody wait til you hit the target...

    Feb 04th, 2014 - 10:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JollyGoodFun

    @185 - no worries, it's a pleasure..... You're right on target with your observations. There's so much manipulation no wonder the Argentinians and Venuezuelans are so ignorant. It's all coming crashing down, yet the official argument is that it's everyone else (and their dogs) fault..... The devoted RG Trolls still attempting to deflect the real issues...... A failed currupt state....... @186 - 100% he's not Australian. He's nowhere near bright enough, his comebacks have no wit, his determination and grit is zilch, nada, nothing! Having lived amongst Australians for 7months I can honestly say they're some of toughest, lovable, loyal and tough (yep said it twice as they are that tough) outward looking people on the face of this Earth. ....... Aussie sunshine shows none of these traits......

    Feb 04th, 2014 - 12:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    You mean as Anglolatino?

    Ha... Haha.... Hahahaha

    Feb 04th, 2014 - 12:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • nigelpwsmith

    @193
    I agree.

    Australians are tough, dependable, loyal, fair minded.

    Aussie Sunshine shows none of these qualities. Just your typical CFK troll.

    Feb 04th, 2014 - 12:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JollyGoodFun

    @195 - God love the Aussies. Let's not mention the thrashing us Englanders got in the cricket though ;-)......... With the RG a Trolls it's brilliant to see how at first they constantly spawned this website commentary with countless baseless crap. They made up history at a whim, attempted to ridicule (famously failing) all who clearly and accurately highlighted their lies, and the numerous trolls having several separate accounts to argue with themselves (it's hard not to cry with laughter at this point).... They then spouted about the official crap that came out of old saggy mouth Cristina (she has paid all her import fees for luxury European goods by mouth, now customs demand cash as she was as bad at oral as she is a president) as being fact..... Now their facade of lies and make believe has come crashing down, they revert to their natural state of brain dead numbskulls dribbling at the keyboard...... While listening to UK music, with a US film in the background, drinking Australian wine (albeit they cannot afford it now) harping on about how they hate the Anglosphere...... not even mentioning Canada, New Zealand, the Falkland Islands and others (apologies to my fellows of these great nations)

    Feb 04th, 2014 - 02:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Don't blame the UK for your flaws.

    Feb 04th, 2014 - 02:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    Stevie , #169..what happened ? run out of something intelligent to say ? you're just the same as the idiot who calls himself “Brasileiro”....spews out crap and when cornered, just sneaks away ??
    You too Aussiesunshine...yr #175 “”“” The only thing I know is that everybody is backing Argentina while theFalklands/malvinas are isolated with no backing“””...You don't know anything....You're much like Stevie and Brasileiro...all turds who repeat the same lies until you believe them yourselves...

    Feb 04th, 2014 - 05:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • nigelpwsmith

    Just read an article in FortunaWeb about the impending megadevaluation in Argentina.

    http://fortunaweb.com.ar/2014-02-03-133991-200-anos-de-devaluaciones-recurrentes-es-patologico-dijo-the-wall-street-journal/

    It seems that the people in charge of the economy have no more understanding of economics than a schoolchild.

    They think that they can control internal prices by increasing imports, but forget that after a megadevaluation it won't be possible to import goods which cost far more than those available locally.

    Farmers will have to take advantage of increased prices in order to obtain the goods they need from abroad, or all agricultural production will grind to a halt due to lack of spares.

    In the meantime, people in the city won't be able to afford the basics, even at controlled prices, because there won't be any 'controlled' goods in the stores any more. They'll only be available on the black market at exorbitant prices.

    The end is nigh for CFK and her bunch of criminals.

    Feb 04th, 2014 - 07:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    Devalued, worthless currency...imports will be too expensive...depend on domestic production to fill the gaps ? not likely, companies closing down, industry struggling along....some exports could work, provided costs don't follow inflation- unlikely....send a few cars to Brazil, agricultural products...what else ? “Havanna's dulce de leche” and “alfajores” would be good........

    Feb 04th, 2014 - 09:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    Oh dear! Premier Oil's chief executive resigns.
    Brit comment
    “Today’s news re Premiers CEO and the markets reaction confirmed what we all knew but probably didn’t want to admit; there is little or no interest/trust/faith in the FI”

    Feb 05th, 2014 - 04:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • nigelpwsmith

    UPDATE 1-Premier Oil's chief executive resigns, shares jump

    Feb 4 (Reuters) - The chief executive of Britain's Premier Oil, Simon Lockett, will step down after nine years in the role, the company said on Tuesday, sending its shares up 9 percent.

    The move comes at a time when the FTSE 250 oil company, with assets in the UK, Vietnam, Indonesia and Pakistan, has been stung by successive downgrades to production guidance in 2013 as well as disappointing forecasts for this year.

    Premier's share price had lost 33 percent since last May before the announcement, with some investors calling for Lockett's resignation.

    ”(This) has been called for by a number of activist investors,“ Sanjeev Bahl, analyst at Numis, wrote in a note to clients, adding that investors often believe a change of CEO can help re-rate the stock.

    Premier currently trades at a price to earnings ratio of 7.46, well below peers at 14.75, according to Thomson Reuters data.

    Lockett also attracted criticism for Premier's management of its Sea Lion project in waters around the Falkland Islands, the operation of which it took from junior partner Rockhopper Exploration just over a year ago. The launch of production recently slipped to 2019 from late 2018.

    ”I think that him (Lockett) moving on allows someone else to come in and do things slightly differently because fundamentally Premier's assets are worth more than the share price,“ Nathan Piper, analyst at RBC, said.

    Lockett, who joined Premier in January 1994 from Shell , will remain as CEO until a replacement has been found, and will also take part in the selection process, the company said. Lockett said in the statement he was ”looking forward to pursuing new business opportunities.”

    During Lockett's leadership, Premier's share price has risen more than 140 percent, outperforming the FTSE 250 of midcap shares, while average production has jumped 56 percent, the company said.

    http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/02/04/premieroil-idUKL5N0L91DA20140204

    Feb 05th, 2014 - 09:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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