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Royal Navy will make more regular calls to Gibraltar, says Lords spokesman on defense

Saturday, February 1st 2014 - 04:12 UTC
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Royal Navy has sent additional personnel to Gibraltar to strengthen its Gibraltar Squadron in response to Spanish maritime incursions into British territorial waters. Read full article

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  • GeoffWard2

    About time too - considering the Royal Navy has a huge naval dockyard and provisioning base on Gibraltar!

    Feb 01st, 2014 - 08:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britworker

    She is going to look beautiful next to Gibraltar.

    Feb 01st, 2014 - 09:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    1 GeoffWard2

    Too right!! It should be a permanent base. To my mind, they should never have closed it.

    Still, it's a good thing that the Royal Navy is going to be spending more at Gibraltar. I have to agree with friend “Britworker” at 2, HMS Diamond will be quite a sight when she anchors next to “The Rock”.

    Feb 01st, 2014 - 11:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    @2
    She is going to look beautiful next to Port Stanley LOL

    Feb 01st, 2014 - 11:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    There's a concept I am still trying to get to grips with. The United Kingdom still insists on “scrapping” perfectly serviceable warships to be replaced by more modern vessels. If an appropriate Type 42 destroyer or Type 23 frigate were home-ported in Gibraltar would it make a difference? Load them up with ammunition, armed helicopters and fast boats and surely they would make an effective deterrent? Regular firing “practice” within British Gibraltar Territorial Waters. Regular patrols. Radio message; “This is the Royal Navy. You are within British Gibraltar Territorial Waters. You are being tracked by the armament of our vessel. You are required to leave immediately. You have 30 minutes.............. You have 29 minutes................. You have 28 minutes”.

    Feb 01st, 2014 - 11:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    The beast wakens-with Diamond there, the Spanish airforce could be turned to dust if it attacks-and Diamond will be able to track everything in Spanish airspace-well the Spanish have been sitting up and begging for an increased UK deterrent presence-now they've got it.

    Feb 01st, 2014 - 01:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anti-Muppet

    Awesome, one of the most sophisticated air defence vessels in the world, just parked on the Spanish horizon, a reminder to the Spaniards, Gibraltar is not going anywhere, and neither are the Brits.

    Feb 01st, 2014 - 03:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Vestige

    Local atc strike for the lulz.
    Park a frigate in view.
    And a tank at the gate.

    Feb 01st, 2014 - 03:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    A nice run ashore for the crew.

    Feb 01st, 2014 - 04:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    RT @Minuteman86: photographic evidence of this morning's incursion by Relampago into BGTW http://t.co/PKR9Htti43, 9 hours ago
    On twitter,

    They are at it again,

    Still,
    When the diamond arrives they will scarper like rats.

    4/5* they run away
    50-1 they show up..lol
    ..

    Feb 01st, 2014 - 07:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Vestige

    1-50 Noticeable sharp statistical increase in skin cancers on Gibraltar since long queues.

    Still, worth the reef.

    Feb 01st, 2014 - 10:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • FI_Frost

    @11

    “Still, worth the reef.” Why not ask the Gibs?

    Nawh, we don't need to: they've experienced it all before. Best ask those non Gibs queuing up to earn a crust/smuggle etc that question matey!

    The hardline and ostentatious sea of Union Jacks and Gib flags you see these days is a direct consequence of Franco; yeah, these things take a long time to heal. Intimidation and bullying is only effective against the weak. Spain knows that. This is all about internal politics, they all know Gib is long gone.

    Feb 02nd, 2014 - 02:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • aussie sunshine

    Everytime the navy calls into Gib the queues should be 10 km long!!!! or longer......an the hate will obviously increase towards the Gibs making it dangerous for them and their belongings to cross into Spain.....progress in action.

    Feb 02nd, 2014 - 02:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Justthefacts

    I had the privilege of going aboard Diamond's sister ship HMS Daring (lead ship of the Daring class) during an open day late last year when Daring visited Sydney for the International Naval Regatta. What fine ships the Daring's are too. Big, smart, well resourced, the crew displaying a reserved British politeness in a competent sort of way that has just a hint of menace behind it. I was surprised that the ship's operation centre was open for viewing- a huge room full of computer screens tracking aircraft above Sydney- I had little doubt they could have shot down everything within 100km, in 5 minutes flat if they wanted to. Scary stuff.

    Feb 02nd, 2014 - 07:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britworker

    @14
    HMS Daring then went on to deliver aid and rebuild schools in the Philippines after being in Australia, something which the idiot @13 knows nothing about.

    Feb 02nd, 2014 - 09:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • BLACK CAT

    @13
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-24706863

    It will take a while for border crossings to progress if you wait for the Spanish I'm afraid.

    Feb 02nd, 2014 - 10:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Spain lives in Franco's shadow it seems,

    it needs to rid its self of this corrupt government,
    and put in a better one.

    Feb 02nd, 2014 - 10:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Vestige

    14 -

    “the crew displaying a reserved British politeness in a competent sort of way that has just a hint of menace behind it.”

    Gayest sentence Ive ever read on mercopress.

    Feb 02nd, 2014 - 12:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Christina says

    vestige, you are now my number “one” in the internet fight against these imperialist pigs. You are quick witted and sharp thinking. keep up the good work.

    Feb 02nd, 2014 - 01:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • FI_Frost

    @17

    Exactly, Picardo et all, are the children of Franco's actions. If this childishness continues then the next crop of future Gib leaders will act accordingly and be as equally hardline.

    Perhaps the next Spanish administration will restort to sending teddy bears LOL

    Feb 02nd, 2014 - 02:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Vestige

    Thanks Cristina, sorry to see you mis-spelled your own name.
    Indeed I am well reputed for my quick wit and sharp thinking.

    Say hello to “Conqueror” for me.
    ...And his “hitman” too.

    Yours sharply.
    Vestige.

    Feb 02nd, 2014 - 02:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Vulcanbomber

    Gibraltar has to increase its security as they expect millions of extra visitors from Spain, once the Spanish revert to the dark ages in respect of woman's right's to Abortions.

    Many will chose not to use a back street clinic but to go to civilisation across the border. Shame they will have to queue for hours thanks to Spanish border control

    Feb 02nd, 2014 - 03:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britworker

    @19
    I always had him down as a 'number 2', if you know what I mean. Tell me C 'H' ristina, was the misspelling a bit of an oversight in your haste to change profile names. Are you transgender also?

    Feb 02nd, 2014 - 03:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #18
    It takes one to know one !

    Feb 02nd, 2014 - 04:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    HMS Diamond,
    Arriving in Gibraltar,
    https://twitter.com/Minuteman86/status/429919174388113408/photo/1
    ,,,
    Spain upping the ante before the visit of HMS Diamond by sending a warship into our waters Playing a silly dangerous game
    photographic evidence of this morning's incursion by Relampago into BGTW, Feb
    https://twitter.com/Minuteman86/status/429919174388113408/photo/1

    .

    Feb 02nd, 2014 - 07:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • paulcedron

    a pair of fishing boats was enough to keep at bay the vessels useless cameron sent there last year.

    Feb 02nd, 2014 - 07:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    25 Briton

    Ok, so now we see how big Spain's balls are........

    If they are running true to form we won't hear a peep from them until HMS Diamond leaves.....

    Always the way with the Spanish....... and their offspring.

    Feb 02nd, 2014 - 08:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Vestige

    Dont underestimate fishing boats, they've come to the rescue of Britains royal navy before.

    Although Algeciras is a bit further than Dunkerque.

    Feb 02nd, 2014 - 08:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Christina says

    21 vistige
    You have taken some kind of offence i think. Do we know each other? I checked my birth certificate and I am correct in the spelling of my own name.

    Feb 02nd, 2014 - 10:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Justthefacts

    @18 I would respond to your comment if I had the faintest idea of what you are talking about. Daring's crew appeared to me to be polite, competent and fully capable of doing serious damage if they were ordered to. What 'gayness' has to do with any of that is beyond me. This thread is about RN warships- take your sexuality issues to another board

    Feb 03rd, 2014 - 01:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • sceptic64

    Unlikely that Diamond would do much if the Spanish Navy makes another incursion - it depends upon orders and no-one [on the UK's side] wants to provoke matters. Note that when the Ramon Margalef spent 18 hrs in Gibraltar waters doing a 'survey' there were two warships tied up inside the harbour.

    Not many people are bothered about the fishing boats - there are only two or three who fish here (and always have been). The reef was laid because they dredge the sea floor and use nets below the mesh size permitted under EU Law - if they fished in Spanish waters (which they can't as they are banned) the Guardia would have to arrest them (as it has done: last time 2 months ago).

    #12 is right though: the prevalence of Union Jacks and Gibraltar flags is a direct result of Franco and neo-Francoist policies as exercised under El Caudillo and revived by the current, ultra-corrupt PP Government. Attitudes have hardened here, but it is La Linea that suffers. Businesses there are complaining of an overall 30% fall in turnover as Gibraltarians now shop locally. Personally, for example, I have crossed the border three times in the last eight months: and two of those were to pass straight through Spain on our way to France.

    Of course: Spain could resolve the whole dispute by having the balls to take its “claim” to the International Courts. However, it has always refused (UK have asked 5 times) and now we hear Margallo stating that “they won't, because they would probably lose so it is not in their interests”.

    Tell me - why make incursions when you KNOW that what you are doing is illegal?

    Feb 03rd, 2014 - 08:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 28 No Vestige of a brain
    “Dont underestimate fishing boats, they've come to the rescue of Britains royal navy before.”

    Er, no they haven’t, not working boats anyway.

    If you were really a Brit of any complexion you would know that the servicemen on the beaches of Dunkerque were rescued by small, privately owned launches and sailing boats. There may have been a retired, privately owned fishing boat or two, but the rest would be out fishing to help feed the British population.

    But you are not interested in facts and prefer “doing down” the Brits but always make a complete bollocks of it like now.

    What a pathetic little man you are.

    Feb 03rd, 2014 - 11:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #32
    But he is just quoting from his latest publication...“The Big Book of 1001 anti-British Prejudices” available from La Campora publications, B.A.
    Please note, payment MUST be made in small denomination US Dollar bills.

    Feb 03rd, 2014 - 11:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Vestige

    Maybe Spain knows that a court case is futile in any case.
    Even a victory being meaningless and impossible to implement.
    Politics being bigger anyway.

    Union jack wavers not surrendering is nothing new in this century or the last.
    They're always not surrendering somewhere outside of GB.
    The other local parties are always in the wrong.
    Always with a claim that something has been taken from them.
    Whether they be near or distant, east or west.

    Yet never any flag waving anywhere big and bad.

    LaLinea's people have plenty of customers and suppliers and options from all other districts of Spain at will, they'll adapt and survive even in a crisis.

    Gib's tourism just gets chiseled away.

    Feb 03rd, 2014 - 11:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • sceptic64

    #34: On the contrary: a victory in Court (ie the ICJ declaring that Gibraltar has no territorial waters) would be very easy for Spain to implement. The reason they don't pursue it is that they know, for a fact, that they would lose and that the decision would make it clear to the world - in writing - that their actions are illegal.

    Even Margallo wouldn't be able to carry on telling his boats to sail around in British waters once that happened. It's the same reason that Spain hasn't pursued its case over the isthmus, and the same one Argentina never accepted to go to the ICJ over the Falklands. They have no case to argue.

    The middle part of your post makes no sense.

    And, for your information, the people of La Linea don't have plenty of customers. This is why their mayoress is pressing for the PP's actions to be stopped, and why they are considering some sort of subsidy to try and keep businesses open. Many shops have already closed and others are following: even a supermarket is reputed to be pulling out. None of this is good in a town with 40% unemployment - a figure that would be much higher if another 20% was not employed in Gibraltar.

    Feb 03rd, 2014 - 12:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • aussie sunshine

    I think Britain has other worries at the moment than Gib.Half the country is under water damage is running in its millions, crops have failed which will lead to a rise on food products and do you think they are worried about Gib? NO WAY JOSE!!

    But on a serious note I wish my solidarity with all those people who have lost crops and personel property..CHIN UP!! GOODLUCK !!

    Feb 03rd, 2014 - 12:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Vestige

    ”a victory in Court (ie the ICJ declaring that Gibraltar has no territorial waters) would be very easy for Spain to implement”.

    In your professional opinion ?

    No doubt LaLinea is suffering, almost all of Spain is, most of Europe is, much of the world is in this crisis.
    That will pass.
    There'll be plenty of options and opportunities for LaLinea.

    What will be your stick to beat LaLinea with then ??
    Think ahead. Spain forever has the border option, its up to the Gib's to exercise reason so they don't hurt themselves.

    (summer coming up soon btw, plenty of tourists for Spain...a hugely reduced percentage for Gibraltar however, unfortunate, but of their own making)

    Dont deny the middle part of my previous post. Im sure you know its the truth.

    Feb 03rd, 2014 - 12:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #36
    Half the country is NOT underwater...check the maps before you post daft statements. No, the country is not thinking OR talking about Gib...BUT....if the Spanish really try something stupid then a latent anti “dago” feeling will surface with who knows what result.

    Yes, it could harm Gib. economically but they could retrench and still have a decent standard of living.
    There seems to be a Hispanic mindset that if you want something, you should threaten and make like awkward for the people you despise.
    The “Anglo” mindset is, OK you bastards come and try it.
    Result, position irreconcilable.

    Feb 03rd, 2014 - 12:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @13 Lovely. The spanish crucifying spaniards. Back to spain and claim benefits.
    @14 I've been aboard Dauntless. A fine ship. But no-one could explain what it did about an enemy approaching from the stern.
    @34 Then let the wankers from the Campo go somewhere else. They are not selling anything to Gibraltar that Gibraltar can't get elsewhere. The only difference is that Gibraltar gives jobs to the otherwise useless from the Campo. Sack the lot and let them claim spanish benefits.
    @36 Wrong again.
    @37 Close the border. Let the scum fend for themselves.
    @18 Don't know about that. “Vestige” is pretty queer.
    @19 Sorry, we need a little bit more. In the meantime, “suck, suck, suck, lick lick, lick, swallow. Especially the chewy bits.
    @21 What's the matter? Too gutless to say ”hello” for yourself? Still, faggots are like that, aren't you?

    Feb 03rd, 2014 - 02:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • sceptic64

    #37: - In your professional opinion ?

    Yes. If the ICJ were somehow to declare that the waters belonged to Spain, then the UK would respect that decision.

    - No doubt LaLinea is suffering...That will pass. There'll be plenty of options and opportunities for LaLinea.

    From where? The Spanish govt doesn't care about them. Never has. Never will do. Unemployment is 40% and the population is falling.

    - What will be your stick to beat LaLinea with then ??

    I don't want a 'stick to beat La Linea with'. I'd prefer that the town was prosperous and was treated with respect by Spain. Why would I wish ill upon it? They are our neighbours.

    - Summer coming up soon btw, plenty of tourists for Spain...a hugely reduced percentage for Gibraltar however, unfortunate, but of their own making

    Not of Gibraltar's own making. A problem caused by the PP's neo-Francoist determination to strangle the Gibraltar economy. Which won't work anyway.

    Feb 03rd, 2014 - 03:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    HMS Elizabeth..

    Start of a momentous year for Carrier project

    Read more: http://www.theengineer.co.uk/home/blog/guest-blog/start-of-a-momentous-year-for-carrier-project/1017934.article#ixzz2sHZMXw00

    the naming ceremony for HMS Queen Elizabeth in the summer, followed by flooding up the dock, floating the ship out and mooring her within the non-tidal basin at Rosyth for the next phase of the work

    read it,..

    Feb 03rd, 2014 - 05:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Vestige 's_Drunk_Mother

    @ Vestige, Get me a drink ya weee bastard

    Feb 03rd, 2014 - 07:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Type 26 Frigate - Global Combat Ship

    http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1235

    the Type 26 Frigates are intended to replace not just existing Type 23 Frigates but also minehunters and survey ships. The vessels will be among the most versatile ever to sail under the White Ensign, , general duty warships, survey ships and mother ships for tomorrow’s mine warfare forces. Type 26 will be the backbone and workhorses of the Royal Navy and should remain in service until the 2060s.
    DescBAE Systems, today also unveiled the latest imagery of the ship, which shows the maturity of the design and provides an insight into how the Global Combat Ship will look.

    Link to our updated Type 26 Global Combat Ship technical datasheetription
    Description
    http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1235

    ...

    Feb 03rd, 2014 - 07:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • aussie sunshine

    *42 Gosh!! have you no imagination you tweet!!?? that you have to use an existing nick?! WHAT A WANKER!!!!!!!! GET A LIFE!!

    Feb 04th, 2014 - 02:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    44 Spazzie Sunshine,

    “*42 Gosh!! have you no imagination you tweet!!?? that you have to use an existing nick?! WHAT A WANKER!!!!!!!! GET A LIFE!!”

    Day-amm!!
    Spazzie, that “vestige” was one of your fellow socks, wasn 't it ??

    Oh, no - a little coup by the Brit supporters LOL!!

    Feb 04th, 2014 - 02:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • aussie sunshine

    *45 One wanker after another!! you mothers breed like bactaria..HAHAHAHAHA

    Feb 04th, 2014 - 02:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #46
    The intelligentsia has spoken !!!!

    Feb 04th, 2014 - 11:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Vestige

    #47.
    Re; 46. Has aussie's superior Anglo mind erred ??

    Is he now demoted to a 'hispanic' ??

    Feb 04th, 2014 - 02:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #48
    I don't know what he is but he is certainly not AUSTRALIAN !!!

    Feb 04th, 2014 - 06:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Spain again was at it today,

    this delinquent needs to grow up..

    Feb 04th, 2014 - 07:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    48 Vestige

    “#47.
    Re; 46. Has aussie's superior Anglo mind erred ??

    Is he now demoted to a 'hispanic' ??”

    You tell us.

    You know him best.

    Feb 04th, 2014 - 10:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Oh God, Vestige actually thinks Aussie Sunshine is Australian!

    Bahahahahahahahahahah

    Feb 04th, 2014 - 11:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    Bah-ha-ha

    as told by Sid James

    Feb 05th, 2014 - 12:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Vestige

    52 - What makes you think that.

    Feb 05th, 2014 - 12:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    54

    Why do you think I say that?

    Feb 05th, 2014 - 03:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    HMS Diamond departs Gibraltar heading eastbound for OST today at 0720hrs no Guardia Civil in sight

    so it proves ones point.

    Feb 06th, 2014 - 07:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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