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Latin American leaders concerned and uneasy with the Venezuelan situation
Most presidents of Latin America and particularly those from Mercosur are concerned with the Venezuelan situation, which generates uneasiness among opposition parties, mass media, corporations and citizens, the International Prospective Institute (IPI) states in a report. Read full article
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Apr 15th, 2014 - 10:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0The key thing is that Argentina and Brasil consider it a high risk that the unrest in Venezuela could be contagious across Central and South America.
Cuba is 'maximally concerned' - as well it might be!
It looks like Maduro is losing the support of the Military too. Once that happens the Gov't will collapse.
Apr 15th, 2014 - 10:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0Anyone want to guess what Stevie's new nick will be this time? He ranted on and on about how this was all over a couple weeks ago and now he's gone.
@ 2 yankeeboy
Apr 15th, 2014 - 11:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0“He ranted on and on about how this was all over a couple weeks ago and now he's gone.”
Well, let’s be thankful and forget him.
You can always spot Guzz / Stevie because he starts OK but then cannot help but revert to type.
I was the first to challenge him when he returned in the “Stevie” guise and I have little doubt he will be back when he thinks it has all died down and his instability has been forgotten.
It was six months last time if I remember correctly, so around October or so I would imagine he will turn up like the proverbial bad penny.
Terrible situation in Argievenezuela though. It will all end in tears.
It will all end in tears.
Apr 15th, 2014 - 11:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0Good!
I am happy when Marxists and Communism ends terribly so people remember.
I hope that V drags down Arg, Brazil and at last Cuba with it.
It is time to rid the world of these evil people.
Apparently Cuba has stolen a bunch of oil to fill op their reserves, they must know there's not much time left.
I can't wait until that oil runs out.
Correct. Cuba has been filling reserve tanks. Stocking up for the show down.
Apr 15th, 2014 - 11:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0I am getting unsubstantiated reports from Venezuela that the Cuban military currently in Venezuela now have the right/authority to arrest and detain Venezuelan citizens.
Can anyone confirm or is it just rumours?
You'll mess up in Venezuela like you are messing up in Ukraine.
Apr 15th, 2014 - 01:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Because of your own arrogance.
You don't understand.
It's the people.
They are fed up with you and your lies.
;)
6. Not over yet huh Stevie.?
Apr 15th, 2014 - 01:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You just can't help yourself can you?
Poor deluded fool
Supporting a bloody dictatorship over the people
You are sick and twisted.
This is ending spectacularly and appropriately.
I only hope they have enough lightposts for the Marxist pols.
Seems more like the people are fed up with bus drivers pretending to be presidents. You do not understand simple because you are a continent away.
Apr 15th, 2014 - 01:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Poor stevie.......poor, poor stevie. Always on the outside looking in at all the fun.
”In September 2013, President Nicolás Maduro announced Venezuela’s withdrawal from the Organization of American States’ (OAS) Inter-American Commission on Human Rights (IACHR), sparking outrage among many human rights organizations. Its official removal from the international human rights organization took effect earlier this year.“
I suppose with all this fun going on they had no choice but to pull out of Human Rights Commissions, even in the latin biased OAS. I mean, how can one repress and be in a Human Rights Commission at the same time?
”Venezuela has been on a political witch-hunting quest by incarcerating opposition leaders. For example, Leopoldo López was arrested for allegedly spurring violence amid the student protests in February. Similarly, Maduro removed María Corina Machado, one of the most visible faces of Venezuela’s opposition, from political power when Panama allowed her to be an alternate ambassador for the Central American nation. Machado intended to denounce the recent social turmoil in Venezuela.”
Ahhhhh.....nothing like political freedom.....freedom of speech.....the Latin way.
So, what do you guys reckon? Should Maduro do like Ukraine and use the military against the protestors?
Apr 15th, 2014 - 02:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your lots tactics are obvious and the world kows.
Putin is kicking your butt silly!!
Hahahahahaha
He is using the military against the protesters, along with paid moto thugs have you not seen the letter from the Military apologizing?
Apr 15th, 2014 - 02:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I love that you try to call the game before half time
You are a dimwit.
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Apr 15th, 2014 - 02:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think this cartoon sums up what Stevie considers the good guys... To bad for him that Maduro is left out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHD22hqiDGU
What letter would that be? Link please.
Apr 15th, 2014 - 02:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Either way, you do agree in using the military against protestors. This is exactly what your media is advocating for in Ukraine...
As for your HRO's.
Stick them up your arses together with your USAID.
With a shovel.
;)
http://www.urgente24.com/225682-militares-venezolanos-protestan-y-a-cuba-se-le-derrumba-el-chavismo
Apr 15th, 2014 - 02:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't know why Progs always support bloody Dictators.
It does confirm that they are all dimwitted though.
Stevie you seem agitated.......are the knits you call sons my giving you head anymore........?
Apr 15th, 2014 - 02:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ukraine is using military against protesters that stormed and took over government buildings with weapons nimrod. Where are the weapons in Venezuela?
poor stevie......always a maiden and never a bride
Hahahahaha yanqui!!!
Apr 15th, 2014 - 02:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Have you read your link?
It's rom the Vanezelan military alright.Saying sorry for crimes commited by military personel. Saying that these people are being processed and that the military never received orders to harm anyone,
Saying the government can't be overturned by throwing stones.
Do you even understand Spanish? Isn't that mandaory in USA yet?
Hahahahahaha!!!
Clearly you dont Stevie... The cops, the intelligence and the Cubans are the ones repressing. What the officers are saying is that they are independent and are urging the folk to be patient enough and don’t provoke the army by attacking them. Nothing will come out of that
Apr 15th, 2014 - 02:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are as thick as pig shit apart that you don’t understand Spanish and cannot interpet Spanish text.
ooh look, Stebies back!
Apr 15th, 2014 - 02:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just to refresh other posters about your lack of integrity;
en.mercopress.com/2014/04/02/venezuelan-opposition-lawmaker-and-supporters-cleared-from-square-with-tear-gas#comments
10 ilsen (#)
Apr 04th, 2014 - 11:02 pm
Maduro agreed in front of UNASUR that a recount would go ahead as he only won a 0.4% by a vote.
This never happened.
UNASUR did nothing.
There was no recount.
These are undeniable facts
11 Stevie (#)
Apr 05th, 2014 - 10:25 am
ilsen
You are lying about the recount.And you are getting desperate because the destabilisation you support isn't working.
12 ilsen (#)
Apr 05th, 2014 - 01:11 pm
Please prove to me that I am lying about the recount. If there was a recount after the last Presidential election there must be a record of it and of the outcome?
It can't be that hard to find?
Where have I said I support destabilising the economy?
The current situation is having a negative impact on my earnings. I wish for peace and prosperity for all.
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I can't prove a negative, but we all can easily find proof of a recount, and its outcome. If it did exist it would be a matter of Public Record.
A recount of a Presidential election? Not on record? lol!
So, show me proof of the recount or admit you are wrong and apologise for calling me a liar.
If you have any integrity at all that is
Yes I do Stevie but obviously you don't. CD is right.
Apr 15th, 2014 - 02:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A Uruguayan that doesn't understand Spanish and has never been there.
What a utter fool.
Ha ha. Kazakhstan is on 4.1 Tajikistan 3.8 Romania minus 4.5 Poland -3.9 and Germany -2.3.
Apr 15th, 2014 - 02:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yankee refer to him by his birth name.....Johnathan Stevens......then ask him his place of birth
Apr 15th, 2014 - 03:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are lying about the recount, ilsen. As the voting system in Venezuela is digitalized and some 54% of the voting machines are choosen randomly to be compared to the outcome.
Apr 15th, 2014 - 03:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's the most secure voting system in the world, according to Forbes.
You see Ilsen, the recount is done already. Capriles lost, and the Whole wolrld, except you tossers on here, have accepted the outcome.
:)
yanqui
I can't read?
“pedimos perdón por los maltratos recibidos por la Guardia Nacional y policías”
“Podemos decir que 97 (efectivos militares) están siendo investigados por la Fiscalía por crueldad, por tortura”
“Ningún soldado ha recibido órdenes de hacer daño a nadie, ni de acosar o acabar con la vida de un venezolano”
“¿Creen que lanzándonos piedras, palos, bombas caseras, metras, entre otros, van a lograr derrocar un gobierno?”
And by the way.
Your so called statement, is to be found here:
http://www.diariolasamericas.com/servicios/dla/comunicado/oficial/index.htm
It is signed by no one at all.
Soon enough all those horrible Marxist will be swinging from lamp posts as they should be.
Apr 15th, 2014 - 03:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Once you have to issue ration cards for basic necessities they've already lost the game.
It won't be long now.
:)
Don't forget that “Stevie ” is a Tupamaro who fought alongside Pepe in the 70's for the great cause, and helped capture CIA operatives, tortured them, enjoyed their humiliation, etc.
Apr 15th, 2014 - 03:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That would make “Stevie” about 75 years old.
He then criticised Capt Poppy for, “Being old”
Stevie, “Protector of the People”, supports Russian-armed “protestors” in the Ukraine, while he criticises Capt Poppy for the same in Venezuela.
Oops, Stevie, there are NO protestors armed with military weapons in Venezuela !
Stevie criticises Ukraine military for attacking the fake “protestors” armed with rifles.
In Venezuela, the government is not sending the military, instead it is arming para- military “Collectivos”, thugs on bikes, to beat up/ shoot legitimate unarmed protestors.
Hey, Stevie, it's not. “Over”
Putin's facade is finished now - he is exposed as showing naked aggression to steal sovereignty.
Syrians fight on against their Russian supported tyrant.
Venezuelans refuse to be crushed by Maduro and Cuba, and the military seem to have no taste for attacking their own people, the officers are rebelling against Maduro's regime.
Funny how “Stevie ” enjoys seeing populations oppressed - hardly the“ people's Utopias ”
Stevie calls himself an “Anarchist ”, but that means NO STATE CONTROL
Stevie's statements are contradictory and hypocritical.
Nothing he says adds up.
It is indeed a shame that in controlling the production, you can control democracy. But people is fed up with you lot. Not only in South America.
Apr 15th, 2014 - 03:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0All over the world. And it's not slowing down.
Meanwhile, Putin is kicking the crap out of you in old Europe. Tactically and verbally.
Enjoy.
Nothing he says adds up.
Apr 15th, 2014 - 03:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is because he is insane.
Stevie,
Apr 15th, 2014 - 04:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How are the Dictatorial regimes in
Eastern Ukraine (to be clear, the Russian incursion)
Syria
Venezuela
helping the people???
How does your support of those Dictatorships, that control all aspects of the State, jive with your idealistic Anarchist ( no State ) ideology?
How are these so-called Socialist, regimes that you support, better at maximising Personal Freedoms in combination with the social welfare and quality of life, of the general populations??
I suspect you are just happy to see people f^cked over.
Gas, politics, oil.
Apr 15th, 2014 - 04:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That is what you lot help. Help yourself to.
Not necessarily in that order.
Stevie
Apr 15th, 2014 - 04:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“It is indeed a shame that in controlling the production, you can control democracy.”
Who do you want to control production? Is their any “market-based” economic policy where you like to live?
Russia isn't about gas, politics, and oil? China isn't the same?
He is neither a tupa nor a South American let alone a Uruguano. Aside from being a pathetic individual rambling incoherently with nothing to do regarding Venezuela, he should just fade away like all of his other persona's.
Apr 15th, 2014 - 04:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Until the day arrives when blind, lying whores like stevie realizes that oppositional criticsm makes democracy stronger and political criticism should not be a crime, SA dictators will continue.....albeit in more limited numbers.
I think ultimately johnathan steven resents his caucasian past.........he's the guilty white man....assuming that he is even a he. Do us all a favor steve..........retire this persona, simmer down for a while, ten start a new one.
27 SUPA TUPA
Apr 15th, 2014 - 04:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Gas, politics, oil.
That is what you lot help. Help yourself to.”
Stevie!!
What?? No answers?? You can't explain your support of Dictatorships??
Can you not validate your ideology ??
And, Stevie,
Just what are YOU helping yourselves to???
Please, tell me your “higher moral cause”, if it's obviously against the will of the populations - what can it be???
What is left ????
People who want more “inclusive, people-based” economic systems tend to focus on all the money that corporations and their leaders have. They argue it is totally disproportionate, and what they did to gain all that money was mistreating “the people”.
Apr 15th, 2014 - 06:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Have they ever argued that some significant “inclusion” proponents like CFK and the late Hugo Chavez also have a disproportionate amount of wealth?
Have any leftists ever complained that all that money that CFK and Hugo Chavez accrued was gained off the backs of the people?
Holy BAT SHIT!!! stevie gets cornered and yulena shows up like roaches at night in Caracas....what are the odds?!?!
Apr 15th, 2014 - 06:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Tell me stevie.......can a bunch of Americans, Canadians or Brits come to Uruguay, take over a province and then vote it out of Uruguay? Can we use guns to take over buildings to make our point and not expect the military?
Admit it asswipe......Venezuela despises democracy, political freedom, free speech to criticize politicians.......dictators that keep poverty high, repression high.....and obviously experts in keeping inflation high. However, conversely, the bus driver is great at keeping morale and free will low.
Prove to me there was a recount Stevie.
Apr 15th, 2014 - 06:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Good luck ilsen..Johnathan cannot prove anything he posts.
Apr 15th, 2014 - 06:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So all the left-leaning commie tin pot dictatorships are concerned about the situation in VeneCuba? Imagine that. Have they woken up to the fact that they are next?
Apr 15th, 2014 - 06:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yeah, Stevie!!! are you going to answer Captain Poppy at 29?
Apr 15th, 2014 - 06:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Are you??? ARE you??
Or are you just going to get it wrong like all the other La Campora Trolls on here?
So, Stevie.... Are you going to answer Captain Poppy or shall we wait to get an answer from someone who is not a complete retard?
Poppy still dreaming that the world has a natural balance and it coincides with the yankee position on how it should be.Keep polishing your stooge medals(you do have them?)
Apr 15th, 2014 - 06:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And yankeyboy is predicting the fall of Maduro (after two terms) like he has being predicting CFK's fall and she can't stand again.He predicted that O'Bhama wouldn't be elected as well.So we know what credibility to give his opinions,for that's all they are.
OB seeks support from China,that's how paralysed yankey superpower position is.Will the yanks not learn that without growing the budget deficit and costing the American people more than they are willing to pay,they are unable to continue to police the globe.
Poor old yankeeboy and poppy,they are relics and they can't accept Venezuela has its own political territory.
Mongolia are on -4.5 and Uighur wants to merge with Kazakhstan to strengthen kazakhstan's ability to resist a Russian takeover.
Is it sock puppet day again so soon?
Apr 15th, 2014 - 06:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I thought sock puppet day was always a Thursday......
34 Captain Poppy
Looks like you were right.
Stevie is full of untruths and contradictions.
Apr 15th, 2014 - 07:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He can't even align his supposed ideologies with actual events.
Now it appears, he can't even read Spanish news links properly because he only has a smattering of Pidgin-Spanish Tourist Speak - Cerveza Señor !?
Don’t you just love it when “No free energy Stevie” supports Maduro “because that is the legal government”?
Apr 15th, 2014 - 07:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What about the half-wits (I am being generous here) of the glorious Tupermaros who took up ARMS against a freely elected (not fixed but having 600,000 dead people on the electoral role in Venezuela) government in Uruguay?
HTF is that even remotely different to Venezuela under Maduro? The Venezuelans are not armed in any meaningful sense of the word and are at the mercy of moto thugs, part of the regime, not to mention the Policia and the Army. I wonder what the 50,000 Cubans are up to. Keeping the oil running to the Castro Cunts I would imagine.
Is there a country that is stealing oil from Venezuela? Are they just helping themselves to another country's resources?
Apr 15th, 2014 - 07:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Actually troy.......didn't john stevens, aka stevie, say he was an anarchist and liked disorder and dysfunction? I could be wrong being an old relic and all. Then there is the old and ancient troll master, the sock puppets of sock pockets, the boaster of bullshit, the sultan of shit, yuleni. What can e say about his vitriol.....nothing.
Apr 15th, 2014 - 08:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As an FYI yuleni, I am just as happy if maduro kills them all, they only real downfall is.......well........I would be just as happy and I'll keep it at that.
42 Captain,
Apr 15th, 2014 - 08:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, you are absolutely completely correct.
“Stevie” Stevens and I had quite a discussion about it.
He was calling himself, a Tupa, a contemporary of Pepe, brothers.
He was quite proud of all the anti-government acts of terrorism “he” pulled off with the Tupas, in the name of “the people” of course.
I said “ you must be a Communist”
“Oh no, we had Communists with us, but I'm an Anarchist!”
I said Anarchy was only a tool for eventually installing Communism in the vacuum created.
He derided me for not understanding Anarchy.
As an Idealist, he believed it was an end in itself - no State, no hierarchy, no organised activity, just voluntary contribution and participation and sharing.
That appears to be the purest form, and pseudo-intellectuals have been arguing in basement coffee houses about it ever since.
Anarchy is exactly the OPPOSITE to the Authoritarian states he wants to see running Ukraine, Venezuela, Syria, and wherever else!
“Stevie” is simply, bitterly, caustically, Anti- West, and as it turns out, Anti-Personal Freedom.
Nothing he supports or promotes is for “the People”.
And he Johnathan Stevens is a caucasian living in western Europe.....how quaint.
Apr 15th, 2014 - 08:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Stevie”
Apr 15th, 2014 - 09:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0enough of your fake moralising and idealism.
Your black turtleneck needs a wash, your beret is threadbare, and you've smoked your last Gitanes...
What a fraud.
44. How did you find that out?
Apr 15th, 2014 - 09:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Stevie@bedwetter.com
Apr 15th, 2014 - 10:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@21
So the recount is already done ???
There was no recount. If there was there would be a record.
Give me one link. Just one link to show me the official recount result you wanker. I asked you to prove your accusation that I lied.
You complete f*ckin idiot. Checking the same machines by the same people that control the machines is not an independent recount. Nor is it the SEPARATE INDEPENDENT recount that the opposition called for. Also the Chavez inspired and invented UNOSUR called for SEPARATE INDEPENDENT recounts. This never happened.
All this information is available with one google click.
You call me a liar.
I have nothing to prove. You can't change facts Stevie@bedwetter.com
you are the liar. I have shown you to be a fraud and a fool.
The Honorable President Nicolás Maduro has recently recognized the valuable services of Stevie/Gus posts to Mercopress by granting him residence rights in Caracas to enjoy the socialist paradise as the other millions of inhabitants do each day. (Waiting in endless lines/queues to buy non-existent toilet paper. Dodging bullets and suffering electrical blackouts...)
Apr 15th, 2014 - 10:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Stevie, have a wonderful time and remember that “Paybacks are a bitch...”
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Apr 15th, 2014 - 10:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What happens is that Maduro has no more need for toilet paper when Stevie “the bidet” is around in the bathrooms of the Miraflores Palace.
Stevie is the bidet of Maburro.
Apr 15th, 2014 - 11:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks CD2
New name for Stevie.
StevieBidet@Maburro.com
lol
lap it up stevie. You are the liar and fool.
yankee, he took my up on my offer and emailed me a few times. The other trolls will not but he did. I wish they would and I can reconcile a few persona's here.
Apr 15th, 2014 - 11:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Troy, where do you suppose the 1st string trollers went to? I am still waiting to meet voice in Pennsylvania. I even offered to meet a few at Cafe Tortini, I enjoy the Palacio Barolo and it's right down a few blocks but they never seem to be around to take me up on my offer. I would even pay.
StevieBidet@Maburro.com
Apr 16th, 2014 - 12:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0I was talking about the recount Maduro agreed to in front of UNASUR.
Check your original post.
There was no independent recount as he agreed to. As I stated. As you have now twice said I have lied about..
you can easily prove me wrong. Produce evidence of the recount.
Come on stebie. A National Recount of a Presidential Election? No records?
I thought you were saying they were ' free and fair' when even the Chavista UNASUR called for a recount.
So where is it?
You are nothing but a fraud and failure.
I am happy to add this to every thread you post on until you are utterly discredited.
Loser.
51. Ah, that's what I figured. I've thought for a long time some of our favorites were all created by the same person.
Apr 16th, 2014 - 01:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0Notice how 'Yuleno' continues arguments StevieBidet@Maburro'sArse.com started?
Apr 16th, 2014 - 01:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0Fraud.
Fake.
Fool.
F. Off!
51 Captain Poppy
Apr 16th, 2014 - 01:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Troy, where do you suppose the 1st string trollers went to?”
I don't know, I have to say it baffles me.
At a guess? I suppose CFK has stopped paying them from her Retirement Fund, so they've all buggered off to a Starbucks in Glasgow, waiting to see A_Voice fight all comers.
I don't know why else they would all disappear, unless they expect they may be exposed like the dummy “Stevie”.
StevieBidet@Maburro.com will run and hide for a while.
Apr 16th, 2014 - 01:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Then return with a different screen name.
His lack of intellect and lack the education will give him away.
Also obviously never having been in Latin America whilst claiming to be a native is is problem he can never over come.
Having lost his regular sock gig now, A_ Voice has been taking part- time work performing in local Punch & Judy shows at fun fairs and church charity events.
Apr 16th, 2014 - 02:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ha ha Jonathan Stevens has quit.
Apr 16th, 2014 - 09:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0Exposed as a liar and a fraud.
Good riddance.
Hahahahaha!!!
Apr 16th, 2014 - 09:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ilsen, you ARE a liar.
No need to get upet with me.
The digitalization of the electoral system is a hard thing for you old lot to grasp, that I undestand.
Not Venezuelas fault.
Liar.
;)
Poppy
You really think I'm John Stevens, don't you?
Make that John Stevens... Trujillo...
jst, you know...
Hahahahaha!!!
Some like dickhead, others twat......some even think tupa........my preference is johnathan over john. I knew you would show. You have to defend yourself somehow......albeit in lies. But whatever works for you and whatever your reasons are. Go for it johnathan......Trujillo.........
Apr 16th, 2014 - 09:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0lolololololololololololololololol
ilsen....there was never a recount in last year's elections...as late as last week, Capriles was demanding a recount.
Poppy
Apr 16th, 2014 - 09:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0You know when you create an e-mail account, you are allowed to (actually, it's mandatory) choose a name and surname. Now, why on earth would I put my name and surname on an account made specifically with Mercopress in mind?
I'm ok with Johnahan, but isn't the name Jonathan?
As for the Venezuelan election, the result is electronic, with some 54% of the voting machines being checked.
Want a recount? Check the outcome again....
Fact is, you can get as many recounts as you want. Just have a look at the results every time you are in doubt.
;)
Again to ilsen's point.
Apr 16th, 2014 - 09:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0meooooooowwww!
When will yulena comes out to defend his maids honor?
No need to hide behind ilsen, Poppy. That wont help you. He's having his own issues with the truth...
Apr 16th, 2014 - 10:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0You understand “electronic”, don't you?
One doesn't recount electronic votes. One makes sure the system is bullet proof and install means to control it. As has been done in Venezuela. According to Forbes.
Now, return to your seat and be a sour spectator...
Stevie, give up the facade, you are a nutcase loser, out of touch with reality.
Apr 16th, 2014 - 11:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0You can repeat that mantra as many time as you wish, yanqui.
Apr 16th, 2014 - 11:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0As with your lies, it doesn't make it true...
johnathan you ARE quite possibly the stupidest European ever.
Apr 16th, 2014 - 11:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0You call posters liars but provide no prove
You claim there was a recount by the fact of electronic votes, obviously you are clueless to what that means.
WHERE WAS THE RECOUNT jOHNATHAN?
Oh sweetie it's true and you know it.
Apr 16th, 2014 - 11:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0Quick where is Yul??
Yul, where are you?
How sad
loser
Poppy
Apr 16th, 2014 - 11:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0The voting was Electronic.
The machines are surveilled.
You want a recount, take a look at the outcome.
Help yourself. Have two.
Stevie, Johnathan or whatever your name is, why is it that you try so hard to be something you are not??
Apr 16th, 2014 - 11:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0You have never even been in a night club in Uruguay. You dont talk the language of the street, he cant interpret proper spainsh text without google...
What is it that you are trying to sell here???
69. It is as bad as or maybe the same as poor Think forgetting which time zone he is posting from.
Apr 16th, 2014 - 12:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He may be another one who's not stepped foot in the country he claims to be from or at least not in a generation or so.
As I said CD he is just an angry Anglo-European.
Apr 16th, 2014 - 12:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes....electronic and surveyed. Like foxes guarding the chicken coop.
yankee....notice the “evening” posts from johnathan? Perhaps he will set an alarm to get a few in tonight. I answered your post at 840EST.....after 230 in his location....see when he responded?
Cabeza
Apr 16th, 2014 - 12:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are so way off target, you couldn't possibly even pretend to know who I am or not. I'm ok with you being a descendant of cipayos, even though I don't agree with you.
I'm not sure about what I intend to sell, but I do know that I never will do like you and sell my country like you do with yours here.
And for free.
Lamebotas.
CD as an American married to a Portena and struggle with my Spanish. One thing I do know, literal translation with translators like google suck and can create meaningless garbage.....hence johnathan's poor use of “his” language......lol.
Apr 16th, 2014 - 12:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ohh I dont know nor care who you are, I do know however that you are a FRAUD.
Apr 16th, 2014 - 12:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Stevie you know by know that I am far the most independent minded guy around here, exactly how Im I a lamebotas, where have I ever sold out my country ?? That is coming from you, when you are clearly a arse licker of Maduro or any other leftist Latam politician. You would see 50.000 cubans take over Venezuela if you must do so
You would see another 40. 000 Russian troops happily take over the Eastern Ukraine.. Where will Putin look next I wonder ??
No Stevie dont get this wrong make no mistake. Its you who not only deny your heritage and origins, you would sell out the countries that feed you tp Russian expansion in NO TIME
All I know about you Cabeza, is that you can't spell in Spanish, blaming your informal approach to the language.
Apr 16th, 2014 - 01:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I also know you are a known customer in the streets and feel like fish in the water when it comes to slang related to cocaine.
Furthermore I know you are the only Argentine (are you?) that I ever met that sells his country out and feels a need to have a go at it in a forum created for just that purpose. I know many Argentines that oppose the current government, and none of them attends a site for butthurted expats in order to cry out.
That, lamebotas, is what I KNOW you are...
Stevie, At least CD can read and understand Spanish. Your claim to living in Uruguay has been also been proven false. Where did you say it was SolImar? Sorry couldn't find that one on the map. One would think you'd know how to spell your own town.
Apr 16th, 2014 - 01:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0sad silly retard
Reading and understanding Spanish is easy, yanqui. Especially if you were born in Argentina, as Cabeza claims to. One would say that writing in the language shouldn't be that complicated either, but you can always blame informalities...
Apr 16th, 2014 - 01:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Aren't you all “informals”...
;)
Stevie first of all Im free to write and express whatever I want and whenever I want.
Apr 16th, 2014 - 01:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0However Im independet minded and honest. You are the complete opposite to me. I cant think of anybody here who I have not had any difference of opinion with and expressed them.
I've never tried cocaine in my life, Im using what it is common street words for different things. I donk know what thematics would you expect in Rio Platense slang if it was not related to drugs, cops, crime, prostitues or others.
About spelling. Let me tell you accents are not used, anybody even in his own toungue whatever it may be will be lickely to misspell. What is the big deal ?? Is that the only thing you can hold against me to argument your lies?? Because another thing completataly different is not knowing slang words, street words, un able to read and understand proper spanish text. You have never veen to a night club in Uruguay, etc
Furthermore Stevie Im Argentine, you are not Uruguayan.
BTW Maduro is calling you. Nature calls, time to lap it up
Yeah but I bet he can spell the name of his town.
Apr 16th, 2014 - 01:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0dimwit
Cabeza
Apr 16th, 2014 - 01:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0n common rioplatense it's called “cocaina”. I've heard “merca” here in Uruguay, but I could not tell if it was referred to cocain or something else.
I guess you would know. As I said, fish in the water...
About spelling, you can't spell. Leave it at that. Stop finding excuses. For some particular, informal reason, you can't spell in your own (?) language.
I don't know what you are, other than what I already told you, and I'm quite confident of what and who I am. Regardless of what you think, nothing will change in that area.
Stevie
Apr 16th, 2014 - 01:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Cocaina is universal spanish... In River plate slang there is many synonyms to that word besides you missed like 5 words not only “Merluza”.
If I would have known that you were so dishonest about making such a fuss for not usingf accents on these words ( My Laptop I have to bother to alt+Contol+ keebord to put a single accent I cant get bothered. Stevie if you would have ever even chated in a live chat to sombody in spanish you would know this) Why does “Informal” bother you so much?? Because it is common and local. Something you are not.
If you have to know I give a far greater importance to what im actually trying to say that in the actual way im saying things. That is true for both my english and spanish. It doesnt mean to say that I'm not qualified to write a proper formal letter in either language.
So, even your keyboard is preset to be English. Makes sense.
Apr 16th, 2014 - 01:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You can't spell in Spanish much less write a formal letter...
By the way, all those “informals” I know, tend to write in Capital letters in order to leave the accents out. Those who doesn't, remembers the accents.
Like I told you. Merluza in Uruguay is a fish. Sometimes the word is used to describe drunkness.
If it is used in the streets to describe cocaine, is not something I would know, as I don't do cocaine.
But according to you, you learnt it by listening to Cumbia Villera, that marvellous piece of art that defines who has been in disco's and who hasn't...
Maybe you should go easy on that fish...
Pfffff round in circles
Apr 16th, 2014 - 01:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0FFS Stevie you are as fake as a fannys tranny. And everyone knows it. You even said Rodrigo was Cumbia villera, and even that in Uruguay there is no Cumbia villera!!!!!!!! There is NO come back from that one. You are just dening yourself and me about what is evident.
Those words are damn common everywhere in the River Plate. Hell even Uruguyan tongue is far closer to Porteño tongue than in comparisson to many other northern tongues or Cuyano.
Do you think im stupid enough to give you formal words that you can google away??
Go away Stevie you are a sad loser and a fraud.
“Everyone” is you lot on here. And I do wipe my arse with your lots opinions, pardon me...
Apr 16th, 2014 - 02:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I never said there is no cumbia villera in Uruguay. I said that no one, except some casual terraja, performs an in-depth study on the crap that comes out of those poetas de baños.
And no, Cabeza, ordinary people are not educated in your local slang and what you and your friends choose to call the crap you stick up your nose.
I promise you,..
Yes you did say that nobody listens to CV in Uruguay when there is even uruguayan bands nowdays !! LOL
Apr 16th, 2014 - 02:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Exatly ordinary people thats what you are so afar from in your Scandinavian home. You cant google your way to uruguayaness Im sorry Mr Fraud.
““Everyone” is you lot on here. And I do wipe my arse with your lots opinions, pardon me...”
Well you certainly do a good job wiping Maduro's with your tongue.
Accepted you are a sad old frustrated cunt in Scandinavia that is pretending to be something you are not.. If not we wouldent be having this conversation.
Well, in my defence, you are a nobody should you listen to that crap...
Apr 16th, 2014 - 02:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So to sum up, terrajas and nobodies listens to cumbia villera.
Most of them can't spell in Spanish either.
Just like you.
I don't have to Google anything, my cedula prooves you wrong...
yankee do you like johnathan's added touch of grammatical errors, like someone with ESL? He typed English flawlessly before.
Apr 16th, 2014 - 02:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I also spelled cedula without the acento.
Apr 16th, 2014 - 02:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Maybe I'm Polish....
A cedula ?? Not a proper Uruguayan passport !! Hahaha,
Apr 16th, 2014 - 02:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0LOL
Stevie it means nothing. You probably may even can get one at your local Uruguayan embassy
You still are a “ are a sad old frustrated cunt in Scandinavia that is pretending to be something you are not.. If not we wouldent be having this conversation.”
PS
And a arse licker too
I hold two passports, Cabeza.
Apr 16th, 2014 - 02:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And I have no need to pretend anything. Especially not with you.
Other than a worm (read gusano) should I choose to try to understand you...
Finally admitted that there was NO recount.
Apr 16th, 2014 - 02:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Shown to be a fraud and a liar too.
Also very ignorant.
A good days work by stevie.
ha ha ha!
No ilsen, you are the liar.
Apr 16th, 2014 - 02:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are still in paperback while everybody else went digital.
It's like saying a computer written book has no author because you can't confirm the hand-writing.
If you wish to perform a recount, have a look at the outcome.
The system is digital!!!
How shall I put it....
Why do the liars on this board double down when they are proven wrong?
Apr 16th, 2014 - 03:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Are they really that stupid?
Denial, in ordinary English usage, is asserting that a statement or allegation is not true.[1] The same word, and also abnegation, is used for a psychological defense mechanism postulated by Sigmund Freud, in which a person is faced with a fact that is too uncomfortable to accept and rejects it instead, insisting that it is not true despite what may be overwhelming evidence.[2][3]
Apr 16th, 2014 - 04:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The subject may use:
Simple denial: deny the reality of the unpleasant fact altogether
Minimisation: admit the fact but deny its seriousness (a combination of denial and rationalization)
Projection: admit both the fact and seriousness but deny responsibility by blaming somebody or something else
All these factors are evident in Jonathan Steven... The real dilemma is where does this need of appearing as a Uruguayan and denying his European origin comes from.
If you only wrote in Spanish as you do in English... At least you would get parts of it right.
Apr 16th, 2014 - 04:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0By the way I think it's Johnathan, not Jonathan. And Stevens...
two passports oh...well then...that proves everything.
Apr 16th, 2014 - 04:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hey.....I have three passports!!!
CD...it really doesn't matter what one calls a pathological liar......they can be anyone on any given day.
What a busy day poppy and yankeeboy had yesterday(poppy even offered to go to meet people outside the US,now that's dreaming),and the content is totally lacking.No significant observation on events in Venezuela.No comments on the effects of events in Venezuela on Argentina or if CFK still supports Maduro or not.
Apr 16th, 2014 - 04:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So what are they saying
Nothing and more of it today
Rest up guys you are not indispensable although you probably think you are
what rambler yulena, stick to flicking your clit. I've heard more relevant shit come out of the cesspool you reside in johnathan.
Apr 16th, 2014 - 05:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Care to meet me in argentina ......at the Palacio? I'll even pay for the ride up stevie.
Now you imply I have never traveled outside the USA like voice.........prove that one and I will prove you a liar. Such an angry old commie whiteman. Bring voice back, we miss her too.
Poppy, make your mind up as of whom you are talking to, then we can arrange something.
Apr 16th, 2014 - 05:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0By the way, why do you want to meet up? Don't you have friends?
No I want to be yours so you can enlighten me......and I will pay you dearly for your face time.
Apr 16th, 2014 - 06:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0With risk f calling you something you are not, I'm not into men, Poppy...
Apr 16th, 2014 - 06:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Try Anglolatino.
Fear stevie.....I can smell it....but not on you.
Apr 16th, 2014 - 06:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You would have to be in SA to fear meeting me. And you think I wish to met you for sex? Apparently you only think one way when mean wish to meet.
You
yulena
voice
guzz
all are can't meet face to face.....why is that? I can make it to Western Europe also on company business also.
102. You could meet 1/2 the board and most of the nutters at one coffee! I'll be in Oslo this Summer visiting a buddy that had to move back for his job. He so didn't want to go back. Poor guy, he hates it there. He says it is a nightmare with all the foreigners. Its hard when you actually want to work and make something out of yourself when you live under Socialism. He had to calculate if it was worth taking a job or going on welfare! Can you imagine! Yikes.
Apr 16th, 2014 - 06:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't be ridiculous, Poppy, you scare no one.
Apr 16th, 2014 - 06:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are nothig but a keyboard warrior, beating pixel oppnents at best.
There is a good chance you even grab a 2nd place at it as it is....
104. I wouldn't bet on that.
Apr 16th, 2014 - 07:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I wouldn't bet on it either. 2nd place is mayhap too optimistic.
Apr 16th, 2014 - 07:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Funny word, mayhap....
Yeah very often used by fools.
Apr 16th, 2014 - 07:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My intentions are to never put anyone in fear, why would I do that? I can prove what I am face to face, you......you cannot prove anything virtually and in reality.
Apr 16th, 2014 - 09:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Tell us what is a keyboard warrior? An angry caucasian male lining in Europe pretending to be a South American? What is the name for that.....stevie?
I won't make statements like you do that you cannot prove, but I suspect you've never been off your continent and I do not mean SA.
Truth be known Yankee you'd like to visit Norway this summer,but like the other fool with the medals for service to the navy and organic vegetables,you won't go.You don't go anywhere outside your day dreams for fear there might be trouble.Not visiting Argentina just as the captain and his wife is Argentinian.
Apr 16th, 2014 - 09:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0All is well in Venezuela but the yankey backed opposition is still pluging away with the yankey dollars the US gvt keeps providing.
And CFK ,a sick woman, is still at the helm.
Oh to be right sometime,yankeeboy,even though you wouldn't gain anything.Just a guess would be right.
Bet O'Bhama doesn't get in again.
The only thing you prove, Poppy, is that you talk a lot...
Apr 16th, 2014 - 10:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0108 Captain Poppy
Apr 16th, 2014 - 10:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Look!! He's done it again!! As soon as Stevie gets backed into a corner ( Or as soon as he backs himself into a corner ) Off he goes!!!!! and in steps sock puppet “Yuleno”
Now you see, we all know that Yuleno IS Stevie 'cos he's just as stoopid, just as angry and just as racist:-
“You don't go anywhere outside your day dreams for fear there might be trouble”
Is that a reference to that old wifes tale about how Americans don't travel??
Poor lost troll stevie, STILL walking around with his eyes wide shut..... Too angry, too full of hate and too f**king scared to see the truth.
Open your eyes
109 Stev-Leno
Apr 16th, 2014 - 10:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Bet O'Bhama doesn't get in again.”
LOL,
hey smarty-pants !!
Do you know WHY he won't get in, you moron????
Because, in the US when they say “2 terms only ” in the Constitution, it means just that!!
Nobody in the US feels they can meddle with the Constitution just to suit their whims, unlike your Bi-Polar, bratty, Evil Queen, CFK, or the other petty dictators and madmen you have running your countries.
Jeez, you crack me up, loud mouthed, “keyboard Anarchist”!!
C'mon Stev-leno, tell us about your days as a “brave Tupa” - Gawd, I bet they're rolling in their graves thinking of a Tupa-Wannabe, scrawny pimply little coward like you, using their name to make it look like you have principles.
Please please please tell us too, how do you reconcile being a noble utopian “Anarchist” with your support and promotion of Authoritarian Police States and the tyrants that oppress their own people - Venezuela, Syria, Russia, and defunct Gad-Daffy???
You keep ducking that obvious contradiction.
I'll come to the Starbucks in Norway with Captain Poppy to meet you and the rest of Operation Condor Refugee Trolls - I'll save 3 chairs for us.
At least we know now why you inhabit the “English - only” MP site - your pidgin Spanish and childish bs would only make the SA posters mock you as a Wannabe !!!
LOL !!!
Wow.... Nice rant...
Apr 16th, 2014 - 10:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well, “Stevie”
Apr 16th, 2014 - 11:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Are you a supporter of oppression - or what???
No answer?
Yeah, so much for your “morality”?
WTF has been going on here....WTF have I been missing....
Apr 16th, 2014 - 11:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I've been working....I'm not a retired old fart like most on here.....
Pops.....did you call me a she...?
..and what's this about you being able to make Western Europe on company business...?
So are you saying you can make it for Stevie, but not for me....
Well I'll be damned......
BTW......
“An angry caucasian male lining in Europe pretending to be a South American”
South Americans.....are mostly Caucasians....just saying....
In case you didn't know....
112 Twit Tempest.......Give it a rest....you have never been to Europe....
Never been out of Canada....
You wouldn't dare meet your own Shadow....you would be the one hiding behind Pops.....
115
Apr 16th, 2014 - 11:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0oh, dear, another one from the sock drawer...
Oh geez maybe she'll resurrect Guzz
Apr 16th, 2014 - 11:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sock puppet...SOCK PUPPET!!!
Apr 16th, 2014 - 11:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A Voice
The most effec-tu-al A Voice
Who's intellectual close friends get to call him Voicy
Pro-viding it's with dignity
A Voice
The indisputable leader of the gang
He's the boss, he's the VIP
He's the championship
He's the most tip top - A Voice
Yes he's the chief, he's the king,
but above everything
He's the most tip top -A Voice!
...Ta daaa......
@80
Apr 17th, 2014 - 12:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0“I've heard “merca” here in Uruguay”
@90
“And I have no need to pretend anything”
Stevie,
You are pretending to be in Uruguay. You are NOT in Uruguay.
bushpilot
Apr 17th, 2014 - 01:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0If you say so...
It is so
Apr 17th, 2014 - 01:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0119 Bushpilot
Apr 17th, 2014 - 01:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0since “Stevie ” superseded the “Guzz” identity,
the story of his Uruguayan affiliation has varied,
- Tupa refugee from Operacion Condor, living in Europe
- son of Tupa refugees, living in Europe
- visits Uruguay “all the time ”
- works “just offshore ” of Uruguay and visits on regular basis
- living full-time in Uruguay
and yet, according to people who DO live there, he is out touch with slang customs, what other Uruguayos think.
Now, it seems he has very little fluency in Spanish and at least one or two sock puppets.
BTW, he never backs up anything he passes on from www.antiwestmalcontent.com/en, the English language forum.
Did Stevie start claiming he is living in Uruguay AGAIN?
Apr 17th, 2014 - 02:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0Post 80-“here in Uruguay”
This is how easy it is to prove you are somewhere:
http://instagram.com/anglotino
Feel free to post requests for pics and then try and prove I'm not here! Mind you I don't think anyone doubts I'm in Australia as unlike Stevie I don't seem to swap continents between posts.
Troy
Apr 17th, 2014 - 08:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0Cabeza supposedly lives in Mendoza.
Mendoza is not in Uruguay.
The “slang” you are talking about is what he and his friends calls the white powder they stick up their noses,
In Mendoza.
Mendoza is not in Uruguay.
Ask him the difference between truco Argentino and truco Uruguayo.
Bet he doesn't even know the Argentinean version with the excuse that “nobody plays it” :)
Get the picture?
Anglolatino
That's not you. The name is misspelled...
And I wont sign up to Instagram only to please you, I'm sorry to say. Not only is it a children playground, but you'll only end up saying it still isn't me and that I got a relative to upload Pictures...
But main reason is though, that I couldn't care less if you believe me or not.
You are nothing but a bunch of fascists anyway, regardless of your whereabouts...
Have to sign up?
Apr 17th, 2014 - 09:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Bahahahahahaha
How old are you Stevie?
Go find some young person to help you out on the INTERWEBS. You can look and only the NSA will know you were looking. Mercopress is less secure than Instagram.
HAHAHAHAHA you're so funny. You even highlight the Latino in my name where I prefer to highlight the Anglo part. And you don't even see the irony in that.
But you lying about your whereabouts makes ME a fascist.
Anglolatino
Apr 17th, 2014 - 10:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0I would guess you need an account in Instagram in order to post stuff.
Instagram is used by teenagers and you, to share pictures with... eachother.
I have no interest in joining you in your wicked crusade.
Sorry.
Stevie
Apr 17th, 2014 - 10:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0I have reread my post. But nowhere did I say you should join up Instagram. I know you won't try to prove where you live because it would ruin your narrative. Where I live only bolsters mine.
“Wicked crusade”
Bahahahahahaha what is wrong with you at the moment?
Did you just become a Mormon? Or should I just drop the first 'm'.
Wicked crusade...... by jimminy we're back in the 1950s.
HAHAHAHAHA
PS: Don't ever apologise for being you. I wouldn't change a thing about you.
...
Apr 17th, 2014 - 10:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Exactly!
Apr 17th, 2014 - 12:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0124 Stev- Leno
Apr 17th, 2014 - 12:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“You are nothing but a bunch of fascists anyway, regardless of your whereabouts...”
You appear to be the Fascist - you support the regimes that attack the people with their own military - Venezuela, Syria... and applaud military invasion.
You mean like in Iraq? In Afghanistan? Serbia? Libya?
Apr 17th, 2014 - 01:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0124
Apr 17th, 2014 - 04:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Stevie
I guess Mendoza and Buenos Aires are the only geographical places you know about in Argentina. I have already told you where Im from. It is obvious you think Cordoba is some place in Mendoza.
This is what you got wrong
Merluza = Terrible pedo
Ortiba = Gusano
Piedra = Vos
Vigilante = Many things, amongst them a Soplón”
“An alcahuete s a chusma, not a soplón.
The alcahuete spreads rumours and kisses arses, the soplón sells you out to the police or your parents.”
(Stevie to Condorito)
For our English readers
”I'm Cordobés (from Cordoba), I like wine and drink it without soda because [like that] it hits harder”
“Of course I've been exposed to that disgrace of a disturbance called music. But who on earth takes their time to study the lyrics?”
And then he replies to me “That's Rodrigo, not Cuarteto Cordobés, you expat...”
LOL
Take it from me Troy, this fraud and pathetic loser has very poor understanding of the streets and the slang and local customs in Uruguay. He got it ALL WRONG, he makes a big fuss about my spelling or the words I have chosen to test him because he is trying to project is fakeness to somebody who is born and bred in Argentina and the River Plate basin.
You are talking about Argentina.
Apr 17th, 2014 - 04:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Lets try you with Uruguay.
What is the differece between URUGUAYAN truco and ARGENTINE truco?
Where is the epic Vaca Azul from?
Who wrote the lyrics to los Olimareños greatest and most beloved songs?
Why didn't el Saba want to sing that song to his mother?
See, Cabeza? Questions only a Uruguayan could answer.
That's the reason you can't.
The only thing you can do, is to come up with different names you and your mates have for the White stuff you shovel up your noses...
Stevie you are just googling especifics.. If I could bother I can google all that and answer, but I have no need to. Unlike you I dont need to pretend anything.
Apr 17th, 2014 - 05:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your problem relies in that you believe you can google your way to Uruguayaness
You have made far too many big mistakes for me to even consider you seriously.
You can't Google the answers to those questions.
Apr 17th, 2014 - 05:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As you already know...
;)
Pffffffff
Apr 17th, 2014 - 05:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I really can, do you want me to really prove it to you?? It not worth it you will deny everything and keep on lying that you are a proper Uruguayo. It's not going to justify that you waren't able to google nor knew the meaning of Piedra, Ortiba, alcahuete, merluza, nor knew the meaning of “cizañero” you think Cordoba is some place in Mendoza or that you yourself live in “Solimar”, cant interpret Spanish text, you have never been to a night club in Uruguay, you dont know what trending music is there in Uruguay, look all this is your own problem not mine Johnathan Stevens.
Prove it, go ahead...
Apr 17th, 2014 - 05:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0;)
Stevie I really can, rest assured about this. Why do I need to do this anyway ?? Will you admit you are a FRAUD, A SAD OLD LOSER AND A COMMIE ARSE LICKER if I prove it???
Apr 17th, 2014 - 05:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nah, it will serve to prove you are no Uruguayan.
Apr 17th, 2014 - 05:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As it will show you I didn't google it myself.
Just as your questions proves I'm no Argentine...
By the way, I asked my family members about your questions, just in case I missed something.
The answers are:
Merluza = a fish (2 of them said it's lunfardo for drunkness)
Ortiba = Gusano
Piedra = Rostrudo, caradura but also firme.
Vigilante = Rata, soplón, alcahuete (on this one I got s many answers as Family mebers I asked)
So, in Uruguay, the meaning of those words you presented, is just what I said.
Of course, my family isn't cocaine addicts wth a degree in sniffing, like you and your mates. That could explain a lot...
Anyway, google away, CabezaHueca, you'll need it, si tenés menos chispa que bujía de madera...
;)
So you have chickened out and want to go back to the begining again ??? LOL
Apr 17th, 2014 - 06:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When did I ever said Im uruguayan??... But I do have and know river plate dialect something you dont. You now have to consult your own family and google as you have these conversations with me, that is laughable.
Stevie this is back to base camp
http://en.mercopress.com/2014/03/24/venezuela-s-state-prosecutor-says-security-forces-have-committed-excesses#comment316080
All you have is specific whataboutry and a grasp of universal spanish and some googling. Any real uruguayan will know the meaning of those words.
I bet your family cant “averiguarme eso....”
When did I ever say I was Argentinean?
Apr 17th, 2014 - 06:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I answered what your Words mean in Uruguay.
You say it doesn't, it Means cocaine (basically).
It doesn't, and just in case, I asked my Family members if they have heard the meaning in Uruguayan lunfardo (yes, one of them shaked his head and asked me if I don't have anything else to do).
NONE of them agrees with your definition.
And by the way, how come you have a rioplatense dialect living in Córdoba?
Is Cordobés rioplatense now?
Porteño?
Hahahahahaha!!!
You are no Argentine, NO Argentine would confuse Cordobés with Porteño and NO Cordobés would say he speaks Porteño!
Done googling?
;)
But Stevie it was you who started asking me questions “what does this or that mean” remember??
Apr 17th, 2014 - 06:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0At most those definitions you answered are very outdated in Uruguay and Argentina. How old are your cousins 84 yo??
“And by the way, how come you have a rioplatense dialect living in Córdoba?”
Because I wasnt brought up in Cordoba Capital, and a Cordobes would understand and use the words I have provided and tested you with. What is different is the accent and slang.
Funny how you acknoledge the existence of a Rioplatense dialect for Argentina itself but then difference between Uruguay and Argentina as completaly different slangs. But then again your hipocracy is outstanding.
Stevie you shouldent even need to consult “your family”. That is the whole point
Nah Cabeza, I'm most aware of the fact that Montevideo uses many of the same phrases and slang that are born in Buenos Aires.
Apr 17th, 2014 - 07:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But then again, I'm no Montevideano, am I?
And don't worry, I wasn't consulting, merely reaffirming.
Done googling yet?
;)
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Apr 17th, 2014 - 07:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0LOL it still a consult whether you need to reaffirm something that it is not very firm to say the least....
I havent even started googling why do you ask ??... You didnt want to admit you are a FRAUD, remember??
Im most aware you are a LIAR, A FRAUD AND A HYPOCRYT and the list goes adding up.
Stevie you ooze ignorance, lack of local general culture knowledge of costums, insecurity, lies, falsehood, projection and deflexion.
Nah Cabeza, I'm ok with you not being able to google.
Apr 17th, 2014 - 08:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As I'm ok with you knowing nothing about Uruguay, thinking we are born to wishing to be like you. Thinking we wish to speak like you.
Like you in person.
I have noting against Argentina. But as in every country, there are idiots. You are a perfect proof f that.
Sos un gol en contra. Te hicieron sin querer...
:)
145. If no other post proves you have never spent any time in Uruguay Post 145 surely does.
Apr 17th, 2014 - 08:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are sad and pathetic
CD, Stevie is an idiot and you are wasting too much time with him.
yanqui.... you are yanqui....
Apr 17th, 2014 - 08:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and you are a moron
Apr 17th, 2014 - 09:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0May be... but you are a yanqui...
Apr 17th, 2014 - 09:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0;)
I'm confused.
Apr 17th, 2014 - 09:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is Stevie claiming he lives in Urugay today?
Or Europe?
Does all his family live in Europe with him? Doesn't anyone work? Or are they all just standing around while types away on a computer?
You are confused alright...
Apr 17th, 2014 - 09:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 150 Anglotino
Apr 17th, 2014 - 10:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“No Free Energy” Stevie reckons he has had engineering training, but, when I asked him a question that a first year student should have got right about atrophy related to a fridge he fluffed it big time.
The of course he took a number of posts blaming me for the question!
I have to admit I was taken in at first but I have since realised he is just a liar approaching The Lunatic’s standard and he is without equal.
You really need to go back and find those posts, Chris... Tell you what, I'll find them myself and quote them for you...
Apr 17th, 2014 - 11:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Chris:
”@ 25 Stevie
OK, let's just try this (there is NO catch):
There is a closed room, no windows, and it is a marvel of insulation in that there are no thermal losses through walls, door and ceiling.
There is a power point in which is plugged a big fridge with its' door wide open.
Now the question is a very simple one: is there any change in room temperature and why?
Please try to answer without using Google, etc.“
Stevie:
”Chris, that's an easy one...
If the condensator is inside the insulated room, it will add the same effect that the evaporator subtracts from the room, and the only added effect will be the effect the compressor delivers, not counting other heat sources such as lamps and persons in the room
;)”
http://en.mercopress.com/2013/09/13/upm-assessed-as-industry-leader-in-environmental-sustainability
Post 26 & 27
Now, will you shut up regardingthat matter before making a bigger fool out of yourself than you already are? As a professional I still respec you, old man. Don't make me go there.
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Apr 17th, 2014 - 11:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So now im Argentine again...Are you ever going to make your mind up about how you are going to LIE??
Uruguay does speak like River Plate Argentina. Im sorry to bust your bufoonic lies.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:MAR_DE_LA_PLATA_dialecto.jpg
Uruguay consumes to much Argentine tv, music, and other arts to have a different dialect all together.
Anyway I suppose your turd family forgot to tell you that... Your family forgot to tell you a lot of stuff while you were asking them stuff. You better get a new advisor
Pfffff
little turd
I don't care what you are Cabeza. Honestly.
Apr 17th, 2014 - 11:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And in Uruguay we speak many dialects, Im sorry to spoil your home made views on the matter. Just like Argentines have different dialects.
Shouldn't be that hard to grasp, really...
So why on earth you keep on calling me a expat you stupid retard ???? !!!!!!!
Apr 18th, 2014 - 12:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0Why do you keep on pretending to be a uruguayo??
God you are the biggest cunt around.
No Uruguay is pretty much Rio de la Plata dialect.
Argentina is ten times bigger than Uruguay. Thats why it is far richer in regional variaty of dialects and slang.
“Shouldn't be that hard to grasp, really...”
Well but for you it is the case
Look, expat, are you telling me that a person from Rissssvera speak like a person from Montevideo? Are you a fool?
Apr 18th, 2014 - 01:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Was my last question redundant?
“Argentina is ten times bigger than Uruguay. Thats why it is far richer in regional variaty of dialects and slang.”
Is that so? Because I could swear you tried to convince me earlier that we shared the same slang...
Argentina is great, I an only agree.
Uruguays own little homeground in football, how could I not love it?
But you, as an expat, wouldn
And now back to the “expat”...LOL
Apr 18th, 2014 - 01:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0Why are you so nervous up all in a sudden??
Rivera is right at the border with Brazil then obviously not you have a strong influence of Brazilian, but over 90% of Uruguay is River Plate dialect. Portuñol barely borders northern Uruguay in a narrow strip of land..The Province of BsAs alone is bigger than Uruguay...
Stevie,
Apr 18th, 2014 - 01:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0CD2 said that Uruguayans spoke the dialect of the Argentines ON THE VICINITY OF Rio La Plata- that would make sense.
It includes B A, a huge population with a common dialect, that sitting on the largest population centre of Uruguay.
Not only that, the Language and Theatre Arts, Entertainment and news media, TV Radio, Film, the biggest University in Argentina, the most exposure from Argentine shoppers, teachers, travellers - all are right there. With a much larger population and media, Argentinian culture and language washes over Uruguay, daily.
Sorry to have to spell it out so pedantically, “Stevie”, but you just won't acknowledge the point, otherwise.
Uruguayans can't help to be exposed to Argie language and popular culture.
You should know that, unless you're some sort of rural hillbilly.
You're not dome kind of a weird 'hermit with a laptop' are you?
More likely, you don't live anywhere near the River Plate, or SA.
Cabeza
Apr 18th, 2014 - 01:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0What about Artigas? Treinta y Tres? Rocha? They speak like people from Buenos Aires, you say?
Salto? Paysandú?
Haahahahahaha!!!
No one in Uruguay speaks Porteño, visssste.
Except the ones in Punta del Este, that is.
You two are delirious...
We could ask Nostrils...
Apr 18th, 2014 - 01:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0oh, but he's never left Mendoza :-(
Pablo - ? - ? - ?
Not sure where he is from.
Probably wouldn't know anything anyway
...not allowed out of the yard, I expect.
You could ask whomever you wish, no one in Uruguay, other than in PdeE, speaks Porteño.
Apr 18th, 2014 - 01:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Nobody would want to.
It would have a tremendous impact on how we are viewed in the world...
Why would we want to be automatically disliked like that???
You two ARE delirious...
In Artigas and other northern uruguayan cities there is a strong influence of the “gaúcho” dialect of portuguese (that is , from Rio Grande do Sul) and Brazilian/Southern brazilian culture.
Apr 18th, 2014 - 02:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0In the rest of the country it's pretty much like Entre Rios and the Province of Bs As. That is, rioplatense spanish.
159 & 163
Apr 18th, 2014 - 02:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yep it's only that northern strip of land of the northern frontier with Brazil that has Portuñol dialect... the rest is all river plate dialect.
In Argentina as far as Realico Int Alvear you have Rio platense dialect, as far west as that, more than 300 km from Bs As.
163, 164
Apr 18th, 2014 - 02:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0Pretty compelling testimony - verdict: Stevie is guano, but not Uruguano.
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Apr 18th, 2014 - 02:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0I know it. I'm not 100% proficient in castellano, but when I lived in Buenos Aires (6 months) I was able to diferentiate a paraguayan or a peruvian from an argentinian when speaking, but porteños and montevideanos were the 100% same for me.
So Stevie is now back in Uruguay?
Apr 18th, 2014 - 08:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0Never in my life have I met people so ashamed of their lives they live and where they live them; than on Mercopress.
Moral of the story is not to lie in the first place. It only traps you.
Regardless of what a bunch of expat on Mercopress can differentiate or not, NO URUGUAYAN SPEAKS PORTEÑO.
Apr 18th, 2014 - 08:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0Not even in Montevideo.
Vissssste?
It does make me laugh to read all these comments and discussions about linguistic differences in South America and using Español castizo de la peninsula “ Prestais un rato tios ,de verdad que molais ”
Apr 18th, 2014 - 11:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0@ 167 Anglotino
Here as well? When would you realise Spanish people are really talented and not a match for your level of ignorance?
Yes yes Spanish Mole.
Apr 18th, 2014 - 11:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0Annnnywaaay....
Wait, where are my manners. Everyone this is Spanish Mole. From Spain.
But wait before you feel sorry for him. Don't. His British education (Masters from Cardiff) has done him very well. He has amazed to avoid unemployment and destitution thanks to this education and is doing quite well for himself.
Since the disappearance of our mate Aussie Sunshine he has decided to fly to flag.
Oh by the way Spanish Mole, Stevie isn't Spanish. He's Urugayan. You probably would have picked that up if you had read more instead of jumping in the fray trying to prove a point.
Your welcome!
Oh look Flinders Street Station. Anyone wanna see my town then have a look:
Instagram.com/anglotino
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Apr 18th, 2014 - 06:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Uruguay consumes to much Argentine tv, music, and other arts to have a different dialect all together. ”
Interesting....
Scotland consumes to much English tv, music, and other arts to have a different dialect all together.
Trust me, the Scottish dialect is completely different...so much so, that a lot of English cannot even understand a Glaswegian speaking to another Glaswegian...same language, lots of different words and pronunciation....
Surely that is the same the world over......
You assume too much.
Apr 18th, 2014 - 09:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not in the New World where languages have a common root.
In the Old World, before WWII, two villages 12 miles apart would have distinct dialects and people rarely travelled far. A visit to London might be a once in a lifetime thing.
Those isolated dialects formed over hundreds of years, from different sources or languages and influences.
Regardless of what you say happened in Great Britain, and who cares, Stevie is wrong, has no argument, and has painted himself into a corner.
He's never wrong - just like you.
Another fool to claim we speak porteño in Uruguay...
Apr 18th, 2014 - 09:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0172
Apr 18th, 2014 - 11:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You talking to me...?
WTF would you know about Britain post or pre-war...you've never been....
Newcastle is pretty close to Scotland yet a Scot would be hard pushed to understand broad Geordie...
...you never have an argument....
I'm talking the logic of language... a beck, a burn, a stream, a brook, a rivulet, a creek...all English, depends on where you are from...
Didn't I just say that?
Apr 18th, 2014 - 11:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You can't post or read, for that matter, without being contrarian - what an ass you are.
You never say anything......Wannabe....
Apr 18th, 2014 - 11:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No Troy, you basically said that everybody speaks the same dialect because we have access to cars an airplanes...
Apr 18th, 2014 - 11:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A voice
Apr 19th, 2014 - 01:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0You're not Scottish or British, are you ?
He's never claimed to either. Just to be educated there (naturally who wouldn't want that) and to live there part time (again naturally who wouldn't want that).
Apr 19th, 2014 - 03:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0But he isn't in Britain at the moment.
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Apr 19th, 2014 - 03:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0It hasnt got a thing to do. Those dialect are divergent milleniums ago in Europe, in the new world it is as Troy says... The River Plate has the same immigration groups the same history, and Uruguay has the same dialect than the province of BsAs. Are you are going to tell me about it???
Stevie is a FRAUD he uses google, he doesnt understand spanish text, he doesnt know common slang, he needs to consult people to have these conversations, he has made tons of gross mistakes, he has never been to a noght club in Uruguay, he doesn't know how to pronounce “his own city or where abouts” he doesnt have any real street knowledge, he is a looser that hates himself and his own origins, he pretends to be something that he is most definately not, the poor troll never stops contradicting himself. All out of the
I almost feel sorry for him...Almost.
Sure voice what a coincedence that you pop out of the blue......
Cabeza
Apr 19th, 2014 - 09:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Your complejo de ombligo makes you think we speak the same.
Any Argentine or Uruguayan will hear the difference between porteño and any Uruguayan dialect. It's understandable that a tourist, like most of you lot, wont hear any difference between a Montevideano and a Bonoaerense, but ANY local will.
Porteño has this particular “cantito de sobrador” that is so despised wherever you go. A remnant of the Italian egocentrism, or a glorifiction of it, who knows?
Furthermore, in Porteño dialect, you never hear the tuteo, only voseo.
In Uruguay you have both.
Our “s” are usually excluded where the porteño adds 3 or 4 of them, visssssste?
Not to mention the existance of totally different words.
Gurí, caldera, liceo, túnica, botija, championes, bizcocho...
Stevie is a lie after another, it just never ends amazing.
Apr 19th, 2014 - 10:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0143
“Nah Cabeza, I'm most aware of the fact that Montevideo uses many of the same phrases and slang that are born in Buenos Aires.”
Poor Stevie the porteño accent is just stronger, but it is the same dialect in Rosario Arg. Int. Alvear La Pampa Argentina or in Montevideo Uruguay.
Stevie you know f*ck all about what you are talking about you have made 10000 mistakes, you have walked back on your own arguments 10000 times too.
Get a life or try to compensate the few years you have left. Or get help.
Cabeza
Apr 19th, 2014 - 10:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Montevideo dialect is spoken in Montevideo. Not in Rocha, Not in Treinta y Tres. Not in Artigas. Not in Rivera. Not in Salto. Not in Paysandú.
Hence not in Uruguay.
You can generalise all you want, but we actually take pride in NOT speaking porteño. Not even in Montevideo.
Porteño. That “tonito sobrador” that makes you disliked in so many places.
Why do you think that is?
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Apr 19th, 2014 - 01:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“The Montevideo dialect is spoken in Montevideo... Hence not in Uruguay.” ???
You seem confused about this. Better calm down.
Montevideo is the capital of Uruguay, Troy.
Apr 19th, 2014 - 01:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not the whole country, Troy.
Get it, Troy?
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Apr 19th, 2014 - 02:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Porteño has this particular “cantito de sobrador” that is so despised wherever you go. ”
Not all porteños have this “cantito” and it's also common in Montevideo. I know what you're talking about, but It's not a particularity of Bs As. Porteños AND montevideanos with strong italian familial links speak this way.
ricagp
Apr 19th, 2014 - 03:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If you ever met anyone in Montevideo speaking Porteño, s/he was most certainly Porteño/a.
That, or you are just another expat that finds it difficult to hear the difference, just like I couldn't tell where in Scotland a Scot comes from by merely listening to his accent.
Understandable.
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Apr 19th, 2014 - 03:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Others don't seem to agree with you.
To be fair, I think we would all be interested to see something to corroborate what you are saying.
Even an Op ed piece.
Those would all be in Spanish I expect though...
Perhaps “ricarg” would be kind enough to translate.
@Troy @ricagp
Apr 19th, 2014 - 03:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What this anormal loser and pathological liar is trying to spin and convince you now is that there is almost a single different dialect for every town and city in Uruguay.
There is no such thing as speaking porteño dialect per se, there is no such thing as Montevideano dialect, there is no such thing as a exclussive Bs.As dialect, there is a River Plate dialect and its obvously strongest in the epicenter Buenos Aires were the accent is strongest as you go away from the center obviously the accent goes weaker. Its as simple as that.
Here you have a nice map that shows you the extension of the dialect.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:MAR_DE_LA_PLATA_dialecto.jpg
What there is in nothern Uruguay is different degrees of mixtures with Portuguese in the border zone... These mixtures or buffer zones speak what is known as “Portuñol” dialect, but 90% of Uruguay speaks thr River Platean dialect.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:MAR_DE_LA_PLATA_dialecto.jpg
Stevie is full of S*it
http://www.viajeauruguay.com/informacion-al-viajero/como-hablan-los-uruguayos.php
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Apr 19th, 2014 - 04:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“It hasnt got a thing to do. Those dialect are divergent milleniums ago in Europe, in the new world it is as Troy says... ”
So logically all those divergent dialects from Europe still exist in Latin America...there are at least ten different Spanish dialects...also 50% of Argentineans have Italian Ancestry....
All these dialects didn't just cease to exist in Latin America, how many dialects are there in Argentina...?
As far as I can see from info on the net it says that Rioplatense Spanish is spoken in Argentina and Uruguay ...but they are not the only dialects spoken...
So what nationality do you think Stevie is...?
He's definitely not a Yank or a Brit and I see no evidence that he is another European nationality like Norwegian...
The chances of someone being on a South Atlantic forum from a site based in Uruguay would be quite high....I would imagine.
Cabeza, you ARE educated by Wikipedia, aren't you?
Apr 19th, 2014 - 05:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Read my link, or is the language to formal for you?
@Troy,
Apr 19th, 2014 - 05:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I would be indeed if I were a native speaker of spanish, which I'm not. My spanish, as I stated before, is far from perfect. I learned it from my travels to Argentina and Uruguay since childhood and by 6 months living in Buenos Aires as an exchange student.
@Stevie,
as I said before, I'm not argentinian nor uruguayan, but I know the “tone” that you're referring to. It's not just a “porteño” thing and many porteños don't have it. It's very common among argentines AND uruguayans from italian origin. In fact, you can find this very same “cantito” among paulistanos from the same origin, as São Paulo had an immense Southern Italian immigration (as Bs As and Montevideo). Brazilians from others regions usually joke about how paulistanos speak. This “cantito” is a particularity of people from italian descent with strong links with their roots, NOT something that's innerent to the porteño dialect.
ricagp
Apr 19th, 2014 - 05:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Now they speak Porteño in Sao Paulo.... Just leave it there, mate....
Oh my god, where did I say they speak porteño in São Paulo?
Apr 19th, 2014 - 05:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You're a joke, Stevie. CD is right about you.
”In fact, you can find this very same “cantito” among paulistanos from the same origin, as São Paulo had an immense Southern Italian immigration (as Bs As and Montevideo)”
Apr 19th, 2014 - 05:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm talking about Porteño, ricagp. Not Spanish spoken by Italian immigrants.
The amount of Italian immigrants in Bs As is far, far greater than the amounts in Montevideo and Sao Paulo. In Bs As, it has affected the whole language, not only the ones that are direct decendants of those Italian immigrants. At the same time, even if the influece is notable in Montevideo, it is by far not as strong as in Bs As.
Did you read my link? It's from a portal that deals with tourism. They seem to disagree with you. And they are Uruguayan for sure...
“The amount of Italian immigrants in Bs As is far, far greater than the amounts in Montevideo and Sao Paulo.”
Apr 19th, 2014 - 06:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wrong. It's pretty much the same amount in SP (proportionally probably the same amount as Montevideo too) and it affected the whole language too, just like in Bs As and Montevideo. I'm talking about the specific characteristics that you refere to, the “cantito”, that is NOT present in all porteños and IT IS PRESENT in some montevideanos.
Take a look at any interview from Carlos Tevez or Juan Riquelme - 100% porteños to the core. Then compare it with Luisito Suarez or Diego Forlan. Where's the “cantito”? It's impossible to distinguish who's argie and who's uruguayan. IMPOSSIBLE.
I did read your link, but It's useless for the information I'm giving here. I'm just stating my personal experience travelling to both countries.
Lucho is from Salto and Forlán from Montevideo. None of them speaks Porteño.
Apr 19th, 2014 - 06:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Read my link?
“Entre bonaerenses y uruguayos existen varias diferencias idiomáticas, diferencias casi imperceptibles para hablantes extranjeros, pero que no dejan de ser significativas a nivel de entonación, vocabulario y expresiones típicas.”
See? They are talking about YOU.
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Apr 19th, 2014 - 06:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“So logically all those divergent dialects from Europe still exist in Latin America...there are at least ten different Spanish dialects...also 50% of Argentineans have Italian Ancestry....”
Logically, don't be ridiculous.
Only a small percentage of dialects would be “represented” intact or I'm any recognisable form in the New World.
A much smaller root base.
It's likely that some of those dialects didn't even make the crossing, and it's “logical” to expect that the more cosmopolitan, urban languages from the ports or capitals would dominate.
Logically, one would also expect that urban centres in the New World would quickly develop their own vocabularies and distinctive dialects. Those centres would dominate the language as they grew, as there was nothing else, but indigenous speech in the regions.
But go ahead, I know you mustn't concede anything, and Stevie needs some help from “Troll Support ”.
You have a need to argue, you need to fill your day with something.
Have a Scotch, it'll help :-)
What's your favourite??
ricogp
Apr 19th, 2014 - 06:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You think that you can hear the difference between languages by travelling? It would be like me going to Scotland and say they all speak the same because I can't hear any difference. I bet you hear no differnce between Sønderjysk, Københavnsk and Bornholmsk either. Or between Skånska, Öländska and Stockholmska.
That doesn't mean all the Danes speaks the same dialect, nor the Swedes. And even if Skånska sounds like Københavnsk in your ears, it's not even the same language, much less the same dialect.
Regardless if you travel there or not.
Stevie,
Apr 19th, 2014 - 06:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Surely there are some differences between the dialects. But even argentines here confirmed that they are minor, irrelevant and mainly in vocabulary (your link confirms it).
SICKVIE
Apr 19th, 2014 - 06:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Im not educated by Wikipedia you moron, im providing evidence for what I have been sustaining all along. Your own link acknowledges the river platean dialect which is common in both Argentina and Uruguay...FFS you are so full od s*it. Amazing!!!
It seems you dont understand your own link anyway... Other than that I dont see anything worth a read in your link, all those words the uruguayans claim as their own I've heard them here in Argentina.
Look retard even in Argentina as you go away from Bs As you have specific synonyms for words or a weakening in the River Platean accent. But the DIALECT IS THE SAME. GET IT???
You are SICK and you need to get help.
No ricogp, “my” link states that the differences may not be recognized by tourists such as yourself, but there are, and I quote;
Apr 19th, 2014 - 06:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”[diferencias] no dejan de ser significativas a nivel de entonación, vocabulario y expresiones típicas.
which, literally, Means that the diferences are significant when it comes to intonation, vocabulary and typical expressions.
My link confirms it. It's taken directly from it...
And a tourist will not know how to recognize a accent of someone from Rosario and someone from BsAs.... And there will be differences in intonation vocabulary and typical expressions that go by unnoticed.
Apr 19th, 2014 - 07:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So what ??? Its the same f*ing dialect
But they are not significant diferences nor the ones in Montevideo nor in Rosario from BsAs.
“El español rioplatense es un dialecto del idioma español hablado en la zona de la cuenca del Río de la Plata, en Argentina y Uruguay, y otras regiones aledañas. Centrado en las ciudades de Buenos Aires, Rosario y Montevideo, los tres focos poblacionales más importantes de la región, extiende su influencia cultural a regiones geográficamente distantes, sobre todo a través de los medios audiovisuales, en los que es el lecto estándar en ambos países”
http://enciclopedia_universal.esacademic.com/32285/Espa%C3%B1ol_rioplatense
All good, like the American English is spoken all over USA....
Apr 19th, 2014 - 07:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Sin embargo, el dialecto del Río de la Plata no es un idioma homogéneo. Entre bonaerenses y uruguayos existen varias diferencias idiomáticas, diferencias casi imperceptibles para hablantes extranjeros, pero que no dejan de ser significativas a nivel de entonación, vocabulario y expresiones típicas.”
Those lines really bothers you, don't they?
It's understandable expats like you cant appretiate the difference. That's not the same as the difference not being there...
No it doesnt bother me at all Stevie, its just a Uruguayan tourist site trying to create an image of its own, thats what a country does it promotes its own unikeness, the problem is that Uruguay is not very unike when it has Agentina beside it. Academically speaking there is no such “significant” difference, other than some random words. That doesnt make a DIALECT. Your OWN link acknowledges that Uruguay shares the same DIALECT this is the part you forgot to paste..
Apr 19th, 2014 - 07:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“El español uruguayo es una variante del dialecto rioplatense, hablado en las regiones aledañas a la Cuenca del Río de la Plata.
Por ello, el español de Uruguay presenta grandes similitudes con el de Buenos Aires y otras regiones de Argentina”
“It's understandable expats like you cant appretiate the difference. That's not the same as the difference not being there...”
You know talk is really cheap for you... Do you have any dignity left ?? Have you ever had it in your life??
No Cabeza, it's your complejo de ombligo, the same on that refers to us as “provincia” that makes you believe we are the same, we speak the same.
Apr 19th, 2014 - 07:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But we don't, just as we beat you in practically every final we play in the game of football, even if you beat us in head to head.
See? The difference is minor, but it's still there.
You might be a Porteño after all, at least you are just as despicable as one...
Subcampeón.
Seems like this VE thread's dead.
Apr 19th, 2014 - 07:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So ..
South America's cone is a big place, and accents/dialects will vary, especially the vocabulary as it embraces one indigenous set of languages - eg. Tupi - or another.
When I started learning Brasilian Portuguese I was told that I had already developed a Salvadorian accent;
and there is a distinct accent difference between Sao Paulo and Rio, although they are 'close'. Pedro II and his court brought the sibilance of the colonial king to Rio, the ruling class of Rio thought it was smart to speak like the king's speech impediment - and it has stuck ever since!
... A bit like 'estuary English' or the upward Aussie inflection, both from the soaps, have infected the speech of most parts of English society.
Social 'evolution' - and none the worse for it, imho.
So if B.A. residents speak like Uruguaian residents across the water, who cares.
204CD2
Apr 19th, 2014 - 07:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks for that definitive clarification CD.
I went to my Google Translate App and translated it into both “Argentine” and “Uruguayan” dialects, and it came out the same,
“”The River Plate Spanish is a dialect of Spanish spoken in the area of the Rio de la Plata, in Argentina and Uruguay, and other surrounding areas. Centered on the cities of Buenos Aires, Rosario and Montevideo, the three most important in the region, population foci extend its cultural influence to geographically distant regions, particularly through audiovisual media, which is the standard reading in both countries ”
Pfffff
Apr 19th, 2014 - 07:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Get lost and get some help
And Cabezita, I'm still not from Montevideo...
Apr 19th, 2014 - 07:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0;)
Just for in case 210 was meant for Sickvie...
Apr 19th, 2014 - 07:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0211
I know you are from Scandinavia...
210 CD2
Apr 19th, 2014 - 07:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My post at 209 validated your position - both dialects are in fact the same, despite what Stevie says.
208 Geoff
“So if B.A. residents speak like Uruguaian residents across the water, who cares.”
Stevie cares, Geoff!
If he is unfamiliar with the River Plate dialect, then it is likely that he is NOT from Uruguay.
He has already admitted to CD2 that he does not know words that are currently in common usage.
Therefore, his “Uruguayan Spanish” is outdated or not from Uruguay at all !
Troy
Apr 19th, 2014 - 07:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Having inj mind that you are constantly worng, regardless the topic, I thank you for that input.
There is no better proof than your delusion...
213
Apr 19th, 2014 - 07:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes thank you for translating. That is correct Troy that is what I have been saying all along.
Sickvie has a real problem, he needs help
199
Apr 19th, 2014 - 07:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Logically, one would also expect that urban centres in the New World would quickly develop their own vocabularies and distinctive dialects. Those centres would dominate the language as they grew, as there was nothing else, but indigenous speech in the regions”
I'm not being funny..but didn't you just destroy your own argument with that paragraph....;-)
Scotch...... Glen of Tranquility or Talisker or Laphroaig.....
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Finally, no discussion about Argentine Spanish would be complete without at least noting the existence of the very special dialect of Buenos Aires known as Lunfardo. It is associated with the world of tango. In fact, there is an award-winning website all about Tango where a Lunfardo-to-Spanish dictionary may be found -- containing about 16,000 items!
You lot think what you want.
Apr 19th, 2014 - 08:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I've presented a link from an Uruguayan site stating what I already know and you lot counter with Wikipedia and Enciclopedia Universal, a Russian site.
Con todo orgullo de bobo...
Just don't tell any Uruguayan of your delusions or you are in for a surprise.
Actually, try it.
:)
Stevie, so you're uruguayan, right? Where do you live in Uruguay?
Apr 19th, 2014 - 09:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm Olimareño, although for the most part I'm in Solimar (yes yanqui, Solymar, I know...)
Apr 19th, 2014 - 09:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why do you ask?
Peñarol or Nacional?
Apr 19th, 2014 - 09:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Manya forever
Apr 19th, 2014 - 09:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 220 ricagp
Apr 19th, 2014 - 10:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It seems you are new to this side of MP otherwise you would know that “No Free Energy Stevie” (he claims to have discovered a “free” energy system thus breaking the law of the Conservation of Energy and that of entropy simultaneously) actually lives in Sweden and works on a RSV (rig supply vessel) in the North Sea earning a minimum of US$ 150,000 per year..
He also claims to be a Tupa and that his Mom and Dad were Tupas who managed to get away to Sweden (like many Tupas who ran away from their fellow terrorists.
In short he is a liar and most probably a sock puppet of “El Think” the biggest liar on this site.
Did I claim that?
Apr 19th, 2014 - 10:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That is about just as true as your fridge delusion, Chris...
216 Voice
Apr 19th, 2014 - 10:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Destroy my own argument, no.
But you are correct that I put it badly and bit could be mis-construed that way.
““Logically, one would also expect that urban centres in the New World would quickly develop their own vocabularies and distinctive dialects. Those centres would dominate the language as they grew, as there was nothing else, but indigenous speech in the regions”
I should have specified ” the new urban centre of disembarking, in each region.
It would be distinct from the colony's origin. As the new colonial hub, it would dominate the language of the region, as there is no other European influence.
The River Plate area is a good example, as growth spread from both sides of the River as Spanish, and then as United Provinces.
Lunfardo
“Lunfardo is a dialect originated and developed in the late 19th and early 20th centuries in the lower classes in Buenos Aires and the surrounding Gran Buenos Aires,[1][2] and from there spread to other cities nearby, such as Rosario and Montevideo, cities with similar socio-cultural situations.”
Interesting that it started out as a slang of “criminals and lower classes” and grew to common use throughout the region.
I won't pretend to be a connoisseur of Single - Malts, but I do enjoy Laphroaig.
I'll have to try the others.
@222
Apr 19th, 2014 - 11:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thank you for the information, Christ. Yes, I am indeed new here.
@221
A fan of Peñarol? Nice to know, Steve. And a die-hard one, since you said “Manya forever” when I asked you.
So, I'm sure that you are familiar with some of the chantings that Barra Amsterdan sings when Peñarol gets into the field. There's one that I particularly like: a version of a song from a famous Brazilian singer, immediatly recognizable by anyone in Uruguay. She was quite popular in your country (and in Argentina and Brasil too )in the 90s.
Can you tell me who's the singer and which song I'm talking about?
You mean poruporá (Xuxa)?
Apr 19th, 2014 - 11:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I can't remember the name of the original song though....
224
Apr 20th, 2014 - 12:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0Now you have made me feel guilty for using the English translation of Glenmorangie (Glen of Tranquility)....
I hope when you buy Laphroaig you pronounce it correctly....
It's always fun to watch tourists trying to pronounce it when ordering different malts at the bar especially English.....
...La - froyg....is the way...
Although not as funny as the Yankee tourist asking where he could get the ferry to “Ten NA”....“Never heard of it”.....“It's an island...look here on the map”
......he meant IONA...;-))))
227 A_voice
Apr 20th, 2014 - 04:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ok, Glenmorangie.
You were testing me a bit, weren't you?
I've had Glenmorangie. If I recall, I like something more peaty than that, but that's just my personal preference.
At least those Americans have come over to have a look around and ask some questions, rather than yet another trip to a theme hotel in Vegas.
Xuxa: Tindolele? Surely not Soco, Bate, Vira!
Apr 20th, 2014 - 09:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0Bet it was Xuxa. Nothing makes you lot more quiet than a slap of truth...
Apr 20th, 2014 - 01:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0:)
(230) Stevie
Apr 20th, 2014 - 06:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Of course is “Xuxa”...
O “Chucha” en Argentino... ;-)
Herr Flick & Herr 18 wet dream...
One of the infamous “Girls From Brazil”...
The one and only Maria da Graça Mengele...
I should've gone Simone for the sake of the disussion...
Apr 20th, 2014 - 08:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 232 “No Free Energy” Stevie
Apr 20th, 2014 - 09:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No, you are wrong, you and Lunatic should go to Specsavers.
A new pair of lentes might help both of you see the truth instead of the lies you both spout.
Your underpaid teacher is making progress, Chris!
Apr 20th, 2014 - 09:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Lentes!
Vamo' por parte, dijo Jack...
233
Apr 20th, 2014 - 10:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Was that whole post to impress us with your masterful use of one word....at this rate you will be fluent in......30 years.....
If you had 30 years left ...that is.....
BTW..the advert slogan is....“Should've gone to Specsavers”...do keep up....
231 Think
Apr 21st, 2014 - 12:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Nothing to do with nazi experiments.
Maria da Graça MENEGHEL. Born and raised in my native Rio Grande do Sul and supporter of the one and only Sport Club Internacional ;-)
Her grand-grand parents emigrated in the end of the XIX century, just like mine.
@232 Stevie
I'm still waiting. If you're a true Manya fan you should know the song that your barra sing when Peñarol enters in the ground.
ricagp
Apr 21st, 2014 - 03:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0Of course I know.
But there is no single song, it depends on the game.
Against Nacional I prefer not to sing, as I don't belong to the barra brava and the songs are kind of repugnant, especially those ones referring to the fan that got killed.
Against Libertadores opponents, the usual song is “Dale alegría”.
Other common chants are “Soy del Carbonero, si señor” and “Carbonero sos mi vida”.
The song to the tune of Poruporá you are referring to, is “Vamo Aurinegro” to the tune of “India”...
Anything else?
Ha ha, ricagp
Apr 21st, 2014 - 03:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0You yanked his puppet string and you've got him singing like a canary and standing on his head, to try and seem credible - chuckle, so desperate !!!
:-)
Not at all Troy. The man asked politely and I answered, politely.
Apr 21st, 2014 - 03:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0Seems the only one deperate here is you, aiming for clouds...
(236) ricagp
Apr 21st, 2014 - 09:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0You say...:
Xuxa has “Nothing to do with nazi experiments.”
I say...:
Of course she's a Nazi Experiment !!!
Xuxa was Masterminded by Herr Doktor Mengele in Rio Grande do Sul in a cunning Masterplan to create the Masterrace...
That's why she was programmed to mate with Edson Arantes do Nascimento and Ayrton Senna da Silva...
As we speak, thousands of their offsprings are being bred at our Masterbunker under the Lanin Volcano...
But... Don't tell anybody... It's a well guarded secret ;-)
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-27099900
Apr 21st, 2014 - 03:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Looks like Caracas is still in flames.
I told you it wasn't over
Can't you tell that they are all the rich elite who drive to these incidences in their Jeeps!
Apr 22nd, 2014 - 12:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0People getting paid to set streets afire and poor rich students.
Apr 22nd, 2014 - 01:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0It's over soon though, people are getting enough of those trouble makers. Read yanqui's post, counter protests are being organized.
At least no military is being sent in like your nazi heroes in Kiev...
“Nazis” in Kiev ??
Apr 22nd, 2014 - 01:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0Lol, Putin Puppet!
That's what the police in Venezuela look like? Wow. Paramilitary looking.
Apr 22nd, 2014 - 01:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0So, so glad ours don't look like that.
Anaya, seems the fascists in Venezuela are more efficient than those in eastern Ukraine.
Venezuelan dead: 41
Ukraine dead: 12
I thought the a Ukraine military was switching sides.....
Anglolatino
Apr 22nd, 2014 - 01:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0You forgot the 80 dead in Maidan. You know, those who the new “government” refuses to investigate their death...
So, to update your death toll
Venezuela: 41 dead
Ukraine: “only” 92
#(pick any number followed by Stevie)
Apr 22nd, 2014 - 03:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0YAWN...........................................................
Here's a question for Guzz ... er... Stevie: What are names of the owners of the cybercaf on Avenida Uruguay near the junction with Avenida Giannatasio, in Solymar? You know, across the road from the Esso station...
Apr 22nd, 2014 - 03:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0Stevie
Apr 22nd, 2014 - 06:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0I didn't forget them. As per usual in your haste to scratch that itch and reply to me; you failed to read my posts properly.
Read it again and looked out for the word “eastern”.
As to those killed in Kyiv, you seem to be under some assumption that they aren't being invetigated. Please post your links here so we can also share your certainty.
Only in autocratic states like Russia are the findings presented BEFORE the investigation finishes.
But.... and so very glad you bough this up..... if the fascists had no problem shooting 80 innocent people in Kyiv, why oh why oh why won't they do the same elsewhere now that they run the country?
Why don't these fascists just take out some ramdom babushkas and blame it on the Russians? The pro-Ukrainian protests in eastern Ukraine are nearly always larger than the pro-Russian ones. Surely that means there's more targets.
Ukraine seems overrun with fascists that have no compunction about murderinh people.
But don't seem to be doing it?
They would have to be either the most incompetent fascists ever..... or extremely peaceful.
248, It Sol-I-mar according to Stevie sheesh can't you spell?
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