Swedish aerospace and defence firm Saab has finalised a 5.4 billion dollars order to sell 36 fighter jets to Brazil, one of the most valuable defence contracts up for grabs in an emerging market. Saab said in a statement the total order value for the NG Gripen jets, to be delivered between 2019 and 2024, was around 39.3 billion Swedish crowns (5.4 billion). Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesDo these new fighters have the cool reversing sensor and ample boot space i've come to expect from Saab?
Oct 29th, 2014 - 09:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0Brazil militarising South America, I wonder what CFK has to say about this to the UN. LOL
Oct 29th, 2014 - 10:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0A consortium of companies led by Brazilian Polaris is developing a turbine to equip the Gripen NG BR.
Oct 29th, 2014 - 10:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0There will be no sensitive dependence on Western technology.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmPgO0EjQO4
Brasileiro don't be so naive. The locally developed turbine will require foreign sourced technologies.
Oct 29th, 2014 - 12:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Good news for UK industry, with significant UK content in the Gripen (c30% iirc).
Oct 29th, 2014 - 01:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”also with the UK Empire Test Pilots’ School (ETPS).-”
Oct 29th, 2014 - 02:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0By the time Argentina have duped Brazil into loaning money to buy the Gripen (non returnable loans of course), all Typhoon pilots will be aware of the Gripen's weapons and flight envelopes.
Well, looks like Filmus is lying yet again...
Oct 29th, 2014 - 05:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“There is absolutely no chance of another invasion from the mainland,”
http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/173299/argentina-urges-britain-to-shut-down-malvinas-garrison
It Took a While, but Brazil’s Finally Getting a New Fighter
Oct 29th, 2014 - 07:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Gripen NG deal took decades
https://medium.com/war-is-boring/it-took-a-while-but-brazils-finally-getting-a-new-fighter-a47fc9df3333
Gripen Fighters Won’t Save the Argentine Air Force
Buenos Aires has bigger air power problems
https://medium.com/war-is-boring/it-took-a-while-but-brazils-finally-getting-a-new-fighter-a47fc9df3333
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@3 Brazzo,
Oct 29th, 2014 - 08:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The technology is coming from Sweden....last time I looked, Sweden was not part of Brazil...
All 'sensitive' technology is, and will carry on being dependent upon what you like to call 'western technology'....the success of the whole project depends on Sweden, not Brazil.
Brazzo, don't you ever get tired of being sooo feckin' stuuupid ???
If eventually ITA, Mectron, Embraer, IAE, Avibrás or Polaris needs some help to develop some technology to equip the Gripen NG BR, we will request within the BRICS.
Oct 29th, 2014 - 08:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We did not bother the Western.
Brazil states that its relationship with Argentina is total, especially with regard to the military,
Oct 29th, 2014 - 08:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0what I think brazil does not understand or chooses to ignore,
is the fact that Argentina has totally different ideals and military aims, than brazil,
the argentine path is different, brazil for example wants its military for protection only, so they say,
Argentina on the other hand has other commitments for its military, if and when it ever gets any,
and we think it concerns some islands 300 miles away,
but of course I could well be wrong,
who knows what the future might bring ??
@11
Oct 29th, 2014 - 09:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Briton, Brazil does not endorse any invasion or military conflict.
Who gives rise to any new armed conflict in South America will face Brazil as the enemy.
Whoever!
@10
Oct 29th, 2014 - 09:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0we will request within the BRICS... is that your solution ?? what makes you think , 1st, that the other 4 BRICS nations possess the specific Gripen technology, and 2nd, even if they did - which they don't - why in hell would they share it with Brazil ? just because fat arse D asked for it ??
@12
So Brazil, in all its might and glory, will stand up to defend ...erhh....who ??? oh, whatever !! Brazzo, stop embarrassing yourself ; out of every three words you utter, three are BS.
@11 Briton
If I were you, I'd be scared sh*tless....the MachoBrazzo has spoken !! he'll face whoever ! stands in his way...
@13 Dude, you're a louse! Face fucking boring!
Oct 29th, 2014 - 10:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That's why the shit of tucanos do not win anything!
Crawler!
Brazil does not endorse any invasion or military conflict
Oct 29th, 2014 - 10:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You may or may not have a point, except that argentina has written into its constitution the recovery of the islands,
So Brazil may not condone it today, but what say 10-20-30- years from now,
A different time, different governments,
Argentina could have this removed from its constitution, but as long as it is there, it will be pressure on any future government to recover them,
So Brazil in a way, could unknowingly be helping argentina of the future,
A leopard never changes its spots..
Just saying like.
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@7 imoyaro
Oct 29th, 2014 - 11:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well, looks like Filmus is lying yet again...
“There is absolutely no chance of another invasion from the mainland,”
Filmus seems to have forgotten what Putrid Jelly said at the roll-out of the papermache mock-up of the Pampers trainer they were thinking of building a few years ago...to paraphrase 'if it wasn't for the british military on the Falklands we would have gone and taken them back years ago'.
Filmus is a wanker...
Look at the difference between the Brassiero @10 and the suddenly improved Brassiero @12
Oct 30th, 2014 - 12:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0It has to be more than just better translation software.
@17... Change of shift ?
Oct 30th, 2014 - 01:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0@18
Oct 30th, 2014 - 03:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0...or Job Share program?
@7 imoyaro
Oct 30th, 2014 - 04:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0Someone should tell Filmus that the UK doesn't have a base in the Malvinas, as the Malvinas don't exist and are a figment of Argentina's deluded imagination.
However the British do have a military base on the British Overseas Territory of the Falkland Islands, and since it is British territory we will base whatever troops and military equipment we want to, in order to protect our people from a murderous nazi like country who want to steal it all.
I don't think Filmus realises just how pathetic and WEAK he makes Argentina look when he says that the British base is such a threat to Argentina. Really Filmus? About 1,000 military personnel, 4 fighters, short range missils and 1 patrol vessel are really so powerful as to completely make the whole of Argentina's armed forces completely impotent?
It really must be all those nuclear armed penguins!
@17,18,19 Troy & Frank
Oct 30th, 2014 - 04:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As I've said before the 'brazzo' is really a group of semi-illiterate petistas. Individually they are incapable of writing anything that makes sense, or remotely similar to the truth . And together, they just multiply their ignorance.
Filmus
Oct 30th, 2014 - 07:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0sounds like a box of fishfingers..
Brasileiro,
Oct 30th, 2014 - 08:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You don't want to get involved in Argentina's wars.
They will just use you, abuse you, then cast you aside.
Let the idiots fight their own wars.
lf they had prevailed in the Falklands, then Chile was next.
Then probably Uruguay.
After that?
They think that they deserve an empire,
All l can say is thank God they have CFK in charge, the best General that WE have! lol!
And brazil was not ,and is not exempt from argentine aggression..
Oct 30th, 2014 - 08:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ Isolde and Briton
Oct 30th, 2014 - 09:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have conviction that men and women who govern Brazil will not put us in a position that embarrass us before the world. Because we do not want that our values of peace, prosperity and friendship are corrupted by nonsense.
In doubt we will not do business. And even with the certainty we seek guarantees for the maintenance of peace.
Governments come, people go, so we need strong democratic institutions to prevent that the wind of history change with the flavor of the passions.
Oh do be quiet dear. There's a poppet.
Oct 30th, 2014 - 11:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@23 Isolde, @24 Briton,
Oct 31st, 2014 - 08:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Listen up ! The Brazzo group (in # 25) has said the men and women who govern Brazil will not put us in a position that embarrass us before the world.......
Maybe he's right, because at the moment, who embarrasses Brazil is the Brazzo himself.....he talks as 'he' were the person who decides Brazil's foreign policy, e.g., :
In doubt we will not do business....who is he speaking for ? the private sector, which keeps Brazil from sinking ? or the government, which makes us sink ?
The government is notorious for sitting on the fence, well characterized by :
And even with the certainty we seek guarantees for the maintenance of peace.
The attitudes and decisions taken by Brazil's government, with regards to foreign policy, leave no doubt that no one REALLY know what they are doing, or at least SHOULD be doing..
And all this ...wind of history,... flavor of passions....how romantic and useless.
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