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Despite Argentine protests, BBC Top Gear Patagonia episode will be aired in Christmas

Tuesday, November 25th 2014 - 22:33 UTC
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After refusing to apologize to Argentina over a much questioned Top Gear episode filmed in Argentina considered “offensive” by the government of President Cristina Fernandez, the BBC has taken the controversy to the next level, deciding to air the episode in the network’s prime-time Christmas slot. Read full article

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  • gordo1

    So there, Alicita!

    Nov 25th, 2014 - 11:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redrow

    Are there any professional diplomats in the Argentine embassy to tell Castro how demented this looks? Can we lend them some just to make it a fairer fight?

    Nov 25th, 2014 - 11:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jo Bloggs

    Headline should read:
    Thanks to Argentine protests, BBC Top Gear Patagonia episode will be aired in Christmas

    I think you should complain again Alicia.

    Top Gear cold at least do the honourable thing and invite her down to the track to do a Star in a Reasonably Priced Car. I'm sure an exemption from being a star could be arranged.

    Nov 25th, 2014 - 11:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lagow

    I can't wait to watch the Christmas show. It’s a Win WIN situation, everyone get to see how uncivilized a good number of Argentineans are including public authorities and I get to see the scared face of Clarkson.

    Nov 25th, 2014 - 11:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JustinKuntz

    https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/

    Will tell you how many Porsche 928 GT are left in the UK, there were 76 when the programme went into production.

    when the production team decided to look for a Porsche 928 GT they had very little choice. Its rare they come up for sale, so no the production team couldn't have picked the number plate to be provocative.

    One might suspect they could have added a plate, except:

    https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/

    Check the records that plate has always been on the car.

    So no they didn't change the plate.

    The team that picked the cars, the oldest member was 6 in 1982, whilst the Falklands War may be a national obsession in Argentina, its not in the UK. I doubt very much most 30 somethings would have recognised it.

    So yes, it does appear that if you try and pull apart the story the team made an error with an unfortunate co-incidence, the evidence you find actually corroborates what they said.

    Details of the cars were passed to Argentina a month and a half in advance, so we're asking us to believe that is was obvious also that no one in Falklands obsessed Argentina spotted it before the team arrived? Pull the other one it plays jingle bells.

    If like me you'd followed the team on Twitter, you'd have known just how they were raving about Argentina. Yeah they were enjoying amazing cars, stunning road, perfect landscapes and doing a damn fine job of promoting the Argentine tourist industry right up to the point when they fled the country pursued by a mob of thugs, with it seems official connivance.

    The “Top Gear Effect” has seen tourism boom in every country they've visited, I have a suspicion we might be about to see the first country where it doesn't happen.

    Nov 26th, 2014 - 12:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    What larks! Time for a picnic with lashings of ginger beer!

    Nov 26th, 2014 - 12:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CabezaDura2

    Falklands today & Falklands with peronism !

    https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7545/15690189528_2239a5448e_b.jpg

    Nov 26th, 2014 - 01:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Klingon

    Contrary to popular belief in the Falklands, most educated Argentines would like nothing better than to see that 928 do a burnout on Kristinas face.

    And drag Alicia around patagonia by the feet.

    Nov 26th, 2014 - 01:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troll in The Dark

    If this buries any potential thawing of relations between the two countries for the next 30 years, then may I proffer the idea of the BBC airing a 24-hour MARATHON of the show! We would highly appreciate.

    Nov 26th, 2014 - 02:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • BOTINHO

    2 Redtrow -

    Yes, there was, but von Ribbentrop was hung at Nuremburg.

    Nov 26th, 2014 - 02:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troll in The Dark

    @10

    And the rest were given asylum and exemption from Nuremberg by the UK and the US.

    Nov 26th, 2014 - 02:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skip

    Top Gear has come out looking good from this!
    BBC has come out looking good from this!
    UK has come out looking good from this!
    Chile has come out looking good from this!
    Falkland Islands have come out looking from this!

    Argentina has come out looking like a third world quasi-fascist failed state!

    And the whole world will get to see it.

    I'm not a car aficionado and have only watched this when my mate does. But I think I will make an effort to watch this.

    Also interesting, they were in Australia after Argentina but it hardly made the news. Though we'll earn plenty of tourist dollars after it does air.

    Nov 26th, 2014 - 03:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hernán

    Anyone know if is possible to see the episode of top gear Patagonia online? (concrete data, without insults please)

    Patagonia is the most beautiful region of Argentina and is widely visited by thousands of domestic and foreign tourists since the 50s and 60s, the boom of tourism in Patagonia already a fact long ago, years after years the tourist packages are increasingly more accessible, such as a trip to visit San Carlos de Bariloche (which has very similar Central Europe landscapes ) of duration seven days from my city, in summer (what is called low season) costs $ 3,500 Argentine pesos (ie less half of a monthly salary), which is extremely economical, includes transportation, breakfast, dinner and excursions.

    For over 10 years now the tourism sector in Argentina has become perhaps the most dynamic and accessible for the Argentine lower middle class and even more for foreigners due to the ratio peso dollar or euro.

    Even to the surprise of many of us, many English tourists visit Patagonia, which are well received and welcome.

    This will allow check to British citizens and islanders, who us, the “Argies”, are not, which normally are published in comments on notes of Mercopress

    My estimated Ilsen, believe me, you would be memorable picnic on the shores of Lake Nahuel Huapi

    http://www.welcomeargentina.com/bariloche/fotografias.html

    Nov 26th, 2014 - 03:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troll in The Dark

    @12

    That's awesome! The more different we Argentines are from you Ozzers and Brutish the better! Nobody cares about that show here. Have fun watching.

    Nov 26th, 2014 - 03:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brit Bob

    And once the programme is aired and repeated again and again, everybody will be laughing at A r g e n t I n a.

    Nov 26th, 2014 - 04:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troll in The Dark

    No problem. Enjoy yourselves. Maybe you'll leave the sheep alone this Christmas.

    Nov 26th, 2014 - 04:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    13 Hernan

    Argentina looks like a fascinating place.

    It is too bad about your government and the politics.

    My condolences to those families that will go through hardship and he'll due to the Government's inept mgmt. of the Economy, and propaganda that sets one against the other.

    Nov 26th, 2014 - 05:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Englander

    Looking forward to Mrs Browns Boys and Top Gear.

    Nov 26th, 2014 - 05:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro

    @16

    And maybe you'll celebrate the holiday the traditional Mendoza way by burying your punal in the tripas of an Afro-Argentine. If you can find one.

    Nov 26th, 2014 - 06:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • RICO

    # 14 ! I am glad no one cares about the show in Argentina, perhaps someone should point this out to your Ambassador, as she is currently appearing to be more of an embarassador.

    Nov 26th, 2014 - 08:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skip

    Mrs Brown's Boys. What a larf! Great British humour. Very much in the vein of British shows I watched growing up.

    I don't think I've heard a government talk about a British show as much as Argentina has about Top Gear. Couldn't buy this sort of publicity.

    Nov 26th, 2014 - 08:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JustinKuntz

    Mrs Brown's Boys is Irish, ya feckin eejit.

    Nov 26th, 2014 - 09:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund

    @11
    And Mengele and Eichmann were welcomed where, again?

    @20
    The worst Ambassador since the Austin.

    Nov 26th, 2014 - 09:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Voice

    RG own goal spectacular. Probably the best TV show to watch this Christmas. Hope they send signed DVD copies to each of the bunch of crooks that are the RG government.

    Nov 26th, 2014 - 10:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Usurping Pirate

    Would this be a good time to ask for the cars back ?

    I told Clarkson to do the programme in Ford Falcons without number plates , that way they would not have insulted anyone .

    Nov 26th, 2014 - 10:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 13 Hernán

    It all depends if the BBC make it available online through their “BBC iPlayer” software and you have a valid registration, a 10Mbps internet connection and a decent siz monitor or a feed to a decent TV.

    BUT, and this is the killer (perhaps) you will need a Virtual Private Network (VPN connection) to make your IP appear to the BBC software as if it resides in the UK.

    There will be a cost to this though some suppliers allow minimum trial periods for a nominal fee (but doubtful over Christmas).

    I would imagine some bright spark (perhaps even the BBC itself) may make it available on DVD but check first that it is region free if you do not have a RF machine to play R2 DVD's on.

    Nov 26th, 2014 - 10:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund

    @13

    If you know how to use TOR you can set up an exit node in the UK for free, but it will be real slow.

    Nov 26th, 2014 - 10:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Alicia Castro,
    she never learns, she will make Top Gear bigger and more popular than ever..lol

    Nov 26th, 2014 - 11:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Buzzsaw

    Or watch it on Filmon

    Nov 26th, 2014 - 11:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @9. Poor argies. No ambition. Let's make it 3,000 years!
    @14. You already 'different'. Have you ever considered trying to step up half a dozen steps on the evolutionary level? You might manage to reach sub-human.

    Nov 26th, 2014 - 12:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    The Argentine government seems to feel it should control the media, theirs AND ours.

    Now, it seems they want to control the Judiciary. Poor CFK

    http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/175604/‘the-judiciary-is-a-corporation-that-colludes-with-the-opposition’

    Nov 26th, 2014 - 01:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • RICO

    # 13 I was going to suggest BBC iplayer but I forgot it blocks viewers from Some countries.

    If it is a major success they might cash in by doing a quick release to DVD, I remember some bright spark did this when we beat Germany 5-1 at football. There were commemorative DVDs available in the shops 3 days later. I hope they really go to town and include all the post event Argentine government paranoia and hypocrisy. Perhaps the Argentine reaction can be included as an added feature on the DVD or as a special on line or red button supplement as you can't fit all of it on on a 2 hour TV Christmas special.

    In some remote rural parts of the world there is not great TV coverage or great penetration of DVDs so the BBC could license a peripatetic cinema. Wouldn't it be wonderful if some of the remotest tribes in the worlds first contact with other cultures is the Top Gear Patagonia Highway Christmas Special 2014.

    It is something they would tell their grandchildren about.

    Nov 26th, 2014 - 02:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skip

    @22 JustinKuntz

    “Mrs Brown's Boys is Irish, ya feckin eejit.”

    Gee I wish people would think before posting stupidity.

    Mrs Brown's Boys is filmed and produced in the UK by the BBC. It might be set in Ireland but it is however a British show.

    Ergo “What a larf! Great British humour. Very much in the vein of British shows I watched growing up.”

    Nov 26th, 2014 - 02:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • inthegutter

    #33

    Same with the superior “Father Ted”.

    Nov 26th, 2014 - 02:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @33 I think it was mean't in jest.

    I expect parts of the Top Gear programme will appear on youtube.

    I agree that Patagonia on either side of the Andes is spectacular. I have never had any problems with the locals.

    Nov 26th, 2014 - 02:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Simon68

    Top Gear is aired on DirecTV in Argentina (and the rest of Latam) so unless the kircnerite mis-government censor it, it will be viewed by the 750,000 viewers of OnDirecTV!!!!!!!

    Nov 26th, 2014 - 03:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britworker

    @33

    Glad you corrected JustinKuntz before I did, Mrs Browns boys is indeed a British show, filmed in Scotland by the BBC. The storyline and actors are Irish that's it.

    Very much looking forward to Top Gear at Christmas and the comical aftermath from Argentina. Maybe they are starting to realise that it's not going to put them in a particularly good light.

    Nov 26th, 2014 - 03:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Usurping Pirate

    @32 RICO : I was going to say the same thing . Within 3 days all the kioscos and news stands will be selling DVD copies .

    Nov 26th, 2014 - 03:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CaptainSilver

    The best bit about this is seeing that stupid woman (both of them) getting their knickers in a twist about Top Gears pranks. You couldnt make it up! Some of the trolls hurrumping like mad and getting to look even more childish. I notice that 'Stink, Voicy and Dolt Underdover' have yet to make any contribution, not that they are worth listening to anyway.

    As BBC Christmas specials go, Top Gear will be top viewing. I am eagerly awaiting the BBC ads for it repeated ad nauseum, which will no doubt feature RG 'veteran' knuckle draggers in full cry.

    Nov 26th, 2014 - 04:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • bushpilot

    I'm not from Europe but I don't think that this kind of very ugly behavior should be displayed during Christmas time.

    Wait 'til New Years. As well, I think this event offers enough entertainment and intellectual enlightenment to produce two shows on it.

    All the lies and hilarity thereof coming from this Castro animal could be a show in and of itself.

    A two part series for sure.

    Nov 26th, 2014 - 04:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Usurping Pirate

    They are not really getting their knickers in a twist over this , they are just frantically trying to divert attention from :
    1 ) The fact that a judge is investigating Cristina's chain of empty hotels .
    2 ) Foreign trade decreased by a whopping 39% last month .
    3 ) End of year bonus ( aguinaldo ) time is coming up and there is no money to pay it
    4 ) There is a public transport strike in BA tomorrow ( no change there then )
    5 ) The abysmal state airline loses over U$S 2Bn a year .

    The population really couldn't give a hoot about car numberplates , the war , The Falklands or the Gaucho Rivero .

    Nov 26th, 2014 - 04:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    Alice in Wonderland protests and threatens the BBC, so they shows it in Xmas prime time.

    Nice one, this is why I pay my licence fee.

    Sir Jezzer Clarkson in the New Year’s honours list, maybe.

    As usual, not only do the protestations of this Argentine Gov carry no weight at all, it actually has the completely opposite effect to that which they desire.

    Something for which they seem to have an ability bordering on genius.

    @ 13 Hernán
    What about the Mapuche issue (serious question, not just having a pop).

    Re:
    http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/174627/patagonian-mapuche-group-declare-‘war’-on-argentina-chile

    Nov 26th, 2014 - 05:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • brasherboot

    I wonder if Alicia Castro would mind if me and the entire UK population (and the rest of the English speaking and other countries) watch it this Christmas?

    Will we all get a letter of complaint? I so hope so.

    Nov 26th, 2014 - 06:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    After it's broadcast expect a complaint to the UN by Argentina-I can't wait to see it and Jezza's acid commentary.

    Nov 26th, 2014 - 06:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 29 Buzzsaw

    “Or watch it on Filmon”

    How?

    Following has been received from Filmon Support Team;

    “Unfortunately we are no longer able to carry these channels. The only UK channels to be broadcast will be BBC1 and BBC Northern Ireland, ITV, Channel4 and Channel5. These will ONLY be available to view within the UK. Sorry for the inconvenience.”

    So if BBC2 show it how can anyone see it, especially outside of the UK?

    Nov 26th, 2014 - 06:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    45 ChrisR
    You can try this: http://myiplayer.com/home.php
    You need a feed of at least 2.5 mbs, more is better.
    But I recommend a service like http://myiplayer.com/home.php which circumvents regional blocking for $4.95 if pay for three months at a time and cheaper if paid annually.
    Then you can watch streaming BBC and ITV direct.

    Nov 26th, 2014 - 08:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    So now the argies think they have a claim on the BBC, and now demand what we brits watch over the Christmas,

    she lives in cuckoo land like her deluded leader.

    Nov 26th, 2014 - 09:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 46 Terence Hill

    Thank you for your well intended advice but please read my post at 26: this is what I do but with a PN.

    I was questioning @ 29 Buzzsaw who seems to be out of the loop.

    Thank you anyway.

    Nov 26th, 2014 - 09:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Perhaps in the Christmas special,
    the top gear trio could sing-
    Don't cry for me Argentina..

    Nov 26th, 2014 - 09:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    DirecTV is broadcast in most of Latin America. Top Gear is often featured.

    Nov 26th, 2014 - 10:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troll in The Dark

    HAHAHAHAHA! This is getting far better than I thought!!!

    http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/26/us/national-ferguson-demonstrations/index.html

    Burn baby Burn has spread to the 51st state of the USA and its capital, LONDON!

    The two biggest ANGLO NATIONS with the worst racial tensions on Earth, and the worst riots in the last 5 years. Coincidence???

    Burn baby Burn LOL
    (I warned ya this one would get bad, almost 2 YEARS ago) ;)

    Nov 27th, 2014 - 05:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    50 ilsen

    Top Gear is filming in British Columbia, Canada this week.

    They are incredibly popular - FB is abuzz with “Clarkson spottings”!

    There were several pieces on our local news about Top Gear being forced to flee Argentina.

    It seems that ANGLO AMERICA are big fans too - they'll be watching.

    Nov 27th, 2014 - 05:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro

    @51

    You are laughing at societies who did not do as you have done? No wonder you imported Nazi executioners and vivisectionists. ;)

    Nov 27th, 2014 - 05:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund

    @51

    Another typical post from the Tobster, decrying racial tension while just bursting with glee at it.

    Nov 27th, 2014 - 08:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • inthegutter

    #51

    Your glee at the events in the US make you a truly pathetic human being.

    “Burn baby Burn has spread to the 51st state of the USA and its capital, LONDON!”

    It's a demonstration not a riot. In fact most of the occurrences in the US have been demonstrations with very few of them turning to riots by those looking for an excuse to loot.

    “The two biggest ANGLO NATIONS with the worst racial tensions on Earth, and the worst riots in the last 5 years. Coincidence???”

    Are you kidding me? Worst racial tensions? There are civil wars that are ongoing all over the world which are effectively racial tensions.

    Your constant insinuation that somehow “anglo” dominated societies are inherently more violent than anywhere else is laughable. Have a look here:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

    Notice that many of the countries that have the highest homicide rates are either in South/Central America or incredibly poor sub-Saharan African countries. If you're going to typecast any ethnic group as violent its very clear that the descendants of Hispanic settlers are amongst the worst, and certainly much more than the “anglos”.

    Nov 27th, 2014 - 09:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #55
    It's pointless trying to reason with this twisted individual. His experience of life is Argentina. Never having been anywhere else he has reverted to the medieval “here be monsters” everywhere outside his country.
    Everything in his world is “perfect” ,as he has no personal experience of the world outside academia.

    Nov 27th, 2014 - 12:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    Bad Times in Buenos Aires.
    It’s already a chaotic Thursday as a public transportation strike and a massive blackout hit the city of Buenos Aires this morning, sending the population into a frenzy. And it’s not even December yet.
    http://bubblear.com/strike-blackout-chances-youre-horrible-morning/
    A massive, unescapable clusterfuck

    Nov 27th, 2014 - 02:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troll in The Dark

    @57

    Ah, EUians, EUians.... you guys simply can't help yourselves.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/russia-facebook-hosting-hitler-contest-article-1.1978115

    Nov 27th, 2014 - 03:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    Eagerly awaiting the Top Gear Christmas Special. First one to post a youtube link on Mercopress comment boards wins a prize!

    Nov 27th, 2014 - 03:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troll in The Dark

    @59

    LOL, that sounds like a Christmas to envy!

    I will be out in the mountains, cooking up pounds of beef and drinking malbec. Then riding a bike around the Potrerillos forest and maybe getting on a Velero on the lake.

    EUians (and NorthAmoans) meanwhile will sit for 12 hours inside frowsty appartments drinking booze and smelling the farts of grandma and uncle Fatso, waiting for the commercials to end and Top Gear to restart.

    And then I'm told I should envy the northerners.... HAHAHAHAHA.

    Nov 27th, 2014 - 04:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro

    @60

    I'll keep an eye out for Ucumar sightings in that neck of the woods. ;)

    Nov 27th, 2014 - 04:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • BOTINHO

    Terrance Hill -

    Thank you for the helpful links to Unotelly.

    Our internet service is not quite as good as it should be, but it is improving. I will try to lad this on the HTPC. It will be a good project through the weekend.

    Abracos -

    Nov 27th, 2014 - 06:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    Top Gear Christmas Special is going to be a two-parter. Which will give Alicia twice as much to complain about. The world will laugh at her even more.
    Ah... the Argentine National Sport of Self Foot Shooting. She is a major contender for Gold this season.

    Nov 27th, 2014 - 07:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    @60
    Do you really think that we give a fuck what you do at Christmas, you are entirely at liberty to do exactly what you want to do, and we will do exactly the same.
    I hope you have a Merry Christmas as I intend to do. I shall be searching dustbins and selling on in BA in Villa 31, you are welcome to join me but to be honest it is a little crowded so perhaps give it a miss this year. TOODLE PIP OL FRUIT.

    Nov 27th, 2014 - 07:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    Apparently we hear that Aunty is going to screen news reels from the 1982 conflict ,

    That should get Alicia Castroall exited .lol

    Nov 27th, 2014 - 08:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #58
    Since when was Russia in the EU ? Another pearl of wisdom from the ignoramus in chief.

    Nov 27th, 2014 - 09:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Carrick1

    Top Gear Christmas Special = essential viewing!

    Nov 27th, 2014 - 10:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    60 Troll in The Dark

    “I will be out in the mountains, cooking up pounds of beef and drinking malbec. Then riding a bike around the Potrerillos forest and maybe getting on a Velero on the lake.”

    Alone again huh Tobi?

    Poor widdle Tobi, while the rest of us are spending time with the people we love, poor widdle troll boy tobi will be alone all by himself.

    Then again, that is your idea of “spending time with the person you love” isn't it Tobi?

    Nov 27th, 2014 - 10:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ernest shackleton

    @36 Simon68, who said....
    “Top Gear is aired on DirecTV in Argentina”

    No it is not, unless you consider the appallingly dull US spin-off to be the real thing.

    Nov 27th, 2014 - 11:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    I have noticed a lot of posters have started ignoring Nostrills Tobi recently.
    Personally, I recommend it.

    Nov 27th, 2014 - 11:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troll in The Dark

    Top gear is not shown in Argentina-- not needed, nobody would watch a British show. The US version is on one channel due to the fact that to get other US programs providers must buy a whole package. But who cares, since no one watches that show either even if it's free.

    Nov 28th, 2014 - 12:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Voice

    60
    ...“waiting for the commercials to end and Top Gear to restart.”
    Nope.....BBC doesn't have commercials.....
    ...keeping you informed....;-)

    Nov 28th, 2014 - 12:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troll in The Dark

    @72

    How boring. Most are probably more entertaining than the show. Of course, surely they are not Argentine commercials, the world's best by far, so I guess I'm not so sure.

    Nov 28th, 2014 - 12:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro

    @73

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyljNfQUu5A&index=4&list=RD0jTHNBKjMBU

    Nov 28th, 2014 - 12:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    70 ilsen

    “I have noticed a lot of posters have started ignoring Nostrills Tobi recently.
    Personally, I recommend it.”

    who is “toby”?

    Nov 28th, 2014 - 01:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ernest shackleton

    @ 73 Toil in the Dark

    “Top gear is not shown in Argentina-- not needed, nobody would watch a British show. The US version is on one channel due to the fact that to get other US programs ”

    They get the US version because its cheap and rubbishy like almost everything else in Arg.

    Nov 28th, 2014 - 01:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troll in The Dark

    Trust me, nobody watches it either. Ask in the street and 92 of 100 won't know what “top gear” is if you asked them.

    Nov 28th, 2014 - 01:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Leiard

    It would seem that 92% of Argentineans do not read the news seeing that Argentina’s government complaint about the BBC’s Top Gear production has been featured in all of the major news outlets on many occasions.

    Nov 28th, 2014 - 01:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troll in The Dark

    @78

    Ok, for those mentally “gentle” I will rephrase (and have said this before):

    PRIOR to the act of British aggression via Top Gear, NO ONE in Argentina had ever heard of this show. Now it may be different.

    And thinking about it... maybe that is the purpose of all this!! From the licence plate, to the drama, and all by the BBC. It was all a plot to get the show to be known in the ONE major country where people could give a fark about Anglo television.

    Nov 28th, 2014 - 01:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    'major country'
    ?????????????
    PMSL! ROTFLMAO!!!!
    ooh that is hysterical!
    who told you Argentina is a 'major country' ?
    Was it the unicorn that lives in your garden??????
    lol!
    *wipes tears from eyes*

    Nov 28th, 2014 - 03:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troll in The Dark

    yup. If it wasn't major, you wouldn't have had that visceral reaction to try to claim the contrary. Usually the reaction is inversely proportional to the degree of falsehood = little reaction, probably a falsehood ; huge reaction (you) = very likely true, or at least a huge dosage of truth.

    But I don't care if we are major or puny and insignificant, I just wrote that because I know how to rile you all up.

    I want Argentina to be insignificant, so you all can forget about us once and for all and leave us alone.

    Nov 28th, 2014 - 03:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro

    @81

    Riled? I'm still laughing about the concept of you going out camping in the mountains, leaving oversize footprints around a trail, and hiding, rustling the bushes, and making weird sounds when hikers or campers come along. Actually sounds like a fun, if solitary, way to spend the holiday. ;)

    Nov 28th, 2014 - 05:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    @81
    Tell me what inventions has your “ major country” contributed to the world that has made a huge difference to their lives. Don't say 1) corned beef, 2) the dance tango.

    Nov 28th, 2014 - 10:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troll in The Dark

    @81

    Why? I don't need women, I certainly don't like men, children make me nervous, I eschew foreigners, and don't really care to hang out with argentines that carry on about the Falklands.

    So, yes, it will be a perfect holiday for me.

    @83

    And you think your display of utter and futile, benighted knowledge is something to be proud of? I made a comprehensive list with sources a while back. I have to go catch the metro now, but later I will furnish you with the antidote to your sordid, stygian ignorance.

    Nov 28th, 2014 - 10:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #84
    You certainly sound a load of fun.
    We await with baited breath ! Then we will just have to prove you wrong again.
    Tedious isn't it !
    By the way, Dickensian English went out about 100 years ago. Welcome to the 21st century.

    Nov 28th, 2014 - 01:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    @84
    Catch the metro hahahahah is it still running? I understand you have had power cuts in BA recently, do you know I honestly ( and I do mean honestly ) I cannot remember when we last had a power cut.

    Nov 28th, 2014 - 01:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • RICO

    I have just finished watching Jezza and the boys in the Across France in a Supercar episode.

    There were some hairy moments in Paris as a group of irate multi ethnic pizza delivery riders pulled up next to their cars and said things like “nice car” in disgust.

    When they stopped to eat an angry crowd formed outside the restaurant and took pictures of the cars and showed their displeasure by waving at the camera crew.

    It wasn't clear from the program but as they drove away from the restaurant just around the corner thousands of frothing at the mouth Napoleonic War veterans from the losing nations (France, Spain, Argentina etc.) armed with stones were marching to object to the disrespectful number plates used.,... NAP 10 ST (Napoleon Lost) and DED 800 K ( clearly also a reference to the 1.1 million French casualties in the war) and ARG 15 SHT (another reference to the day Napoleon surrendered and lost the argument on the 12 Sheptemper).

    Nov 28th, 2014 - 02:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    At least Mike Mercury, Jimmy, and Mitch, didn't have to make a run for the Chunnel train !

    Nov 28th, 2014 - 03:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    @87
    And Jeremy flipped a switch and the number plate revolved and displayed A 55 OLE , John Hammond number plate was T 055 ER and he turned to Jeremy and said “ What steps should we take Jeremy” And Jeremy replied “ Fucking big ones ” and they both headed off to Argentina to see the natives.

    Nov 28th, 2014 - 04:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Buzzsaw

    ChrisR regarding Filmon, I live in Portugal and can get all freeview channels on Filmon?

    Nov 28th, 2014 - 05:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 90 Buzzsaw

    Thanks for your reply.

    Just to be certain: you CAN get BBC2 on Filmon?

    Nov 28th, 2014 - 06:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro

    @84

    In any event, I do hope you manage to drum up a bunch of Ucumar “sightings.” That might actually draw in more crazy foreigners to scare next year. ;)

    http://www.bigfootlunchclub.com/search/label/argentina

    Nov 28th, 2014 - 10:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marti Llazo

    @79
    Despite a certain poster's mendacious denials, Top Gear does have a following here in Argentina and the show is indeed available here as the “real thing.” There are also enthusiast websites such as autoblog that were very enthusiastic about the arrival of the Top Gear team, and not in the let's-throw-rocks-like-Neanderthals sort of enthusiasm, but rather the sort that is more the norm in the civilised countries.

    As far as the propaganda claim that the Neanderthals throwing rocks in still-colonised Tierra del Fuego were “peeved Malvinas veterans” --- there are only a handful of real “Malvinas veterans” in all of Tierra del Fuego. Certainly nowhere near the number of under-30 La Campora-Kirchnerist chorros who turned out at the behest of their fascist leadership.

    Argentina has become the North Korea of South America.

    Nov 29th, 2014 - 01:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    @ 92 imoyaro
    Wow! That is an amazing insight into the life of Troll in The Dark !
    Excellent investigative journalism. Well Done!
    The Troll in The Dark is said to be the size of a large dog and walks erect!
    The locals say the Troll in The Dark likes to eat payo, a plant similar to cabbage, and emits a sound like uhu, uhu.

    Who knew?
    “It is not just locals who have reported hearing or seeing the creatures.”
    As we have seen on these comment boards!

    Wow! It is all becoming clear now.
    Thank you.
    The Truth Is Out There!

    Nov 29th, 2014 - 01:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    94 ilsen

    If their feet are so big, how do they put them in their mouths so easily and so frequently??

    Nov 29th, 2014 - 03:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro

    @95

    In all seriousness, you would have to ask the troll. He complains about the difficulty of getting shoes his size, yet here you see him as he is. ;)

    Nov 29th, 2014 - 03:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ilsen

    I think the Troll in the Dark/Ucumar is far too involved in the Argentine Gov sponsored National Sport of Self Foot Shooting....
    He is obviously confused as to whether to shoot himself in the foot before he puts it in his mouth, or after.
    lol!
    I would recommend after. The only way guarrenteed to hit his brain cell.
    see tobi here
    http://www.bigfootlunchclub.com/search/label/argentina

    Nov 29th, 2014 - 04:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troll in The Dark

    @93

    Of course a car enthusiast group may know what Top Gear is... and what percentage of the argentine population would that be? 2% is probably being outrageously generous.

    It's like saying that a group in London follows the World Cup of Tango and thus all Brits like tango. Most Brits don't know where Argentina is on a map let alone what tango is.

    Nov 29th, 2014 - 04:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marti Llazo

    @98

    “Brits don't know where Argentina is on a map let alone what tango is.”

    Of course a number of Brits know very well where on the map certain points are in Argenzuela, the better to target those cruise missiles, to the air bases at Puerto San Julián, Río Grande, and here in Río Gallegos, as well as the outdoor privy at la residencia presidencial de Olivos.

    Tango is recognised for what it came from: moderately obscene bordello dance. That, and the name placed on the Kretina's presidential aeroplane, which can't fly anywhere in the civilised world for fear of being impounded to satisfy judgments to pay the billions in arrears which deadbeat Argenzuela owes to the world.

    Nov 29th, 2014 - 12:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro

    I certainly know where and what Argentina is. It is the land of head choppers and the chopped, like LaValle and Dorrego, Aldao and Acha, and Sarmiento and Penaloza. A wonderland where I like to say “in the good old days, being a provincial governor was, more often than not, a lifetime job,” to be held until you are killed. Am I wrong?

    Nov 29th, 2014 - 01:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Buzzsaw

    ChrisR...Just go online and try, it is free unless you want to watch in HD,
    there is also apps for ios and android all free.

    Nov 29th, 2014 - 07:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marti Llazo

    There is even a BBC Letrine America website in Spanish (the Argies seem to understand Spanish even if - che boludo - they don't speak it very well) that shows the local hour in Argenzuela when Top Gear is broadcast.

    I'm looking at that BBC page right now that shows scheduling for a Top Gear Special and with a little copy and paste you can see that schedule that includes Argie time:

    Sábado a partir del 12 de noviembre MEX: 22:00 COL: 23:00 ARG: 1:00

    Along with a little reminder of what Top Gear is about:

    ...al más puro estilo de Top Gear, habrá pruebas, bromas y desafíos...

    Got that, Argie Troll? Bromas. That is for our paisanos that have a proper sense of humour.

    Nov 29th, 2014 - 07:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troll in The Dark

    Well, still waiting to intelligent replies by actual Homo Sapiens to 98.

    @96

    In my family the average individual has a larger foot size/length than the expected for the height. But two people, a girl cousin and myself, are far larger than the others because I wear a 50 and she has a 45. On several occasions have had to go together to get adequately large shoes made for us, since literally all other shoes can't accommodate the much larger foot length of her foot and mine respectively. Now that I have described in precise detail this unfortunate instance of bad genetics, in order to make clear what I mean on the day the issue came up and commented that “I have difficulty finding shoes”, you can continue humiliating my cousin by posting the link above. Surely you must be proud :)

    Nov 30th, 2014 - 04:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    Troll

    You are an imbecile.

    You accurately recognise that a small enthusiastic group in Argentina who follow Top Gear, is not representative of the population as a whole.....

    But for an odd narcissistic reason cannot see that a small enthusiastic group of British people who follow Mercopress and dislike Argentina are not representative of the population as a whole...

    You do seem to have the trait of hypocrisy common in your government.

    Nov 30th, 2014 - 08:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund

    @98

    Few people in Argentina know of Top Gear, yet it does not seem to have been a difficult to constitute a number of howling mobs to throw stones at the presenters. Does this mean it's in Argentina to get a howling mob organised among the ignorant? (I use the term 'organised' loosely)

    @102

    It's time you stopped posing as a Troll, Hobbit.

    Nov 30th, 2014 - 09:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro

    @103
    Chopper, you serious? A guy who repeatedly posts he wants ebola to spread can hardly complain about what others say about him, or indeed anyone genetically connected. I merely pointed out that you could have fun camping alone and staging Ucumar “sightings” by utilizing your natural advantage and making noise unseen. As the website indicates, there is definitely an interest. ;)

    Nov 30th, 2014 - 11:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 101 Buzzsaw

    I took your advice and tried the UK version out.

    Pretty good picture, even without the on-cost option of HD (using my own PN in country) BUT, no BBC2 :o(

    Damn.

    Thanks for your help. :o)

    Nov 30th, 2014 - 12:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Buzzsaw

    ChrisR, not sure why you can't get bbc2,

    Try this link, I have just been watching bbc2 snooker on at the moment...so it works for me, but are you in a different continent? Although not sure why that should make a difference.
    http://www.filmon.com/tv/live

    Nov 30th, 2014 - 03:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro

    One more time, with feeling!

    http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/176048/ambassador-castro-renews-malvinas-sovereignty-claims-

    Nov 30th, 2014 - 05:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 108 Buzzsaw

    Got it at last!

    That's great, totally different layout to the one I saw!

    Thanks very much.

    Nov 30th, 2014 - 08:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hernán

    17 TROY.

    It is the first time I fully agree with you. True, the politicians of my country, have behaved as stupid in a long time. I think this happens in most countries of the world.

    But in reality, the problem is the lack of education and way of acting of the Argentine common citizen, at the time of voting, always vote for the money in their pockets because they could buy the “LED TV” Y “Latest model CHEVROLET or FORD ”. The the average Argentinean focuses on the short term, without long-term vision. The problem also is that all power is concentrated in Buenos Aires, and that is wrong.

    Nov 30th, 2014 - 11:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    111 Hernan

    I'm glad we are in agreement.

    Do you think perhaps the “lack of education” or problem with education, may affect how children grow up to perceive the Malvinas/Falklands sovereignty issue?

    Your school curriculum prescribed by the government still teaches children versions of history that have refuted successfully by scholars and historians.

    For example, your government no longer insists to the UN that an Argentine community was forcibly evicted from the Islands.

    However, your government still insists and teaches that Argentina inherited ownership of the Islands from Spain, though there is no evidence to support that, and much evidence to the contrary.

    In the same way, it is reprehensible that the Peronists manipulate the families of the Veterans emotionally and politically.

    Hopefully, it will become all too apparent and the dead will be left in peace, and the political strategy dropped.

    Dec 01st, 2014 - 02:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • EscoSes Doido

    Fkukin QUALITY!!!

    I'm so chuffed, this will be aired!

    Cant wait! :))))))))))

    Dec 01st, 2014 - 10:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anbar

    To be utterly honest Top Gear is boring nowadays - its become utterly formulaic and entirely predictable.... we've not watched in some time as every time we catch a glimpse its the same stuff in a different place..every time.

    This Christmas though, for no other reason than seeing the 20-year old “Veterans” of a 30-year old conflict...

    CAN NOT BE MISSED!

    -------------
    “”“You accurately recognise that a small enthusiastic group in Argentina who follow Top Gear, is not representative of the population as a whole.....”“””

    erm.. didnt he say that nobody in argentina had ever heard of it, let alone watched it...

    (Or is that just 1 more example of Argentines playing fast and loose with recorded history?)

    Dec 02nd, 2014 - 12:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund

    @114

    If only a few Argentines have any idea what Top Gear is, it still seems remarkably easy to get a howling mob together to go after the presenters.

    Dec 02nd, 2014 - 10:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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