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Argentina's comprehensive strategic (and vital) association with China

Saturday, January 10th 2015 - 06:44 UTC
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Argentina and China entered a new phase of their relationship in July last year after upgrading it to a “comprehensive strategic association” and signing a battery of agreements, which include a 4.7 billion investment in hydroelectric dams, 2.09 billion in the renovation of the rail system and an 11 billion currency swap. Read full article

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  • RICO

    Thank God Argentina has managed to completely liberate itself from European exploitation. LOL.

    Jan 10th, 2015 - 10:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Viscount Falkland

    Yep.....Goodbye Argentina.....
    http://buenosairesherald.com/article/178717/argentine-pundits-sound-alarm-over-economic-accord-with-

    Jan 10th, 2015 - 10:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    If China ever gets paid back they'll be making a fortune in interest and late payments.
    Austral Elvis is hawking an 18% return on the re-float of the bonds issue that flopped last month.

    Yes 18%

    It is unsustainable and will end in tragedy for the Argentine people.

    But they're stupid an apathetic concerning their future so who really cares....

    Jan 10th, 2015 - 11:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    That glass of wine or whatever may well be the most expensive conn ever,

    and CFK will surely pay the price of stupidity..

    Jan 10th, 2015 - 12:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Bubba

    There is no cure for stupidity, and is seems CFK fell out of the stupid tree and hit every branch on the way down. Chinese are like vampires, once you have invited them in you need an exorcism to get them out.

    Jan 10th, 2015 - 12:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • gordo1

    Argentina sells its soul and heritage for money!

    Jan 10th, 2015 - 01:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Argentinians are not a smart people.

    Just like us they should be able to see collapsing society and economy in Venezuela, they're just a few steps in front of Argentina, The Ks have been following the V playbook for a decade yet instead of retreating and coming up with a known path that works they are following V into anarchy, starvation and collapse.
    It is disgusting.

    Remember be joking ( not really) telling the Kidiots to buy laundry detergent? Well, its out in Venezuela and people haven't been able to find any for 15 days!

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2015-01-09/venezuelans-throng-grocery-stores-on-military-protection-order.html

    This anarchy is the fitting end to a corrupted ideology.

    Jan 10th, 2015 - 01:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Viscount Falkland

    KFC serves up Chinese takeway for Xi Jinping !

    Jan 10th, 2015 - 03:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Reminds me of younger days, out in a bar, picking some cutie up and then jumping in bed. Always feels like a conquest at the time.

    Then.....

    Morning arrives, hungover and sobriety sets in.. Suddenly that “OH SHIT ” moment arrives when you rollover see what you thought was a beauty the night before.

    It will with Argentina and SA as well.

    Jan 10th, 2015 - 04:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Klingon

    @9 Well if you are going to do that, you may as well do it in Argentina.
    At least you have a much better chance of waking up with a good looking girl than anywhere else in the world.
    If you have seen a few guys from the FI's with only one arm it is not from a landmine. They chewed off their own arm, just so they wouldn't wake it up!

    Jan 10th, 2015 - 04:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    @10
    Yes most of them Argies.

    Jan 10th, 2015 - 04:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CaptainSilver

    Its happening in Africa too, Chinese government sponsored “investment”. Insidious colonialism on a colossal scale. Be very afraid (long term). They have too many people who have to go somewhere. Its all part of a master plan to rule the (3rd) world.

    Jan 10th, 2015 - 05:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    10. That's a myth,
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nj8GvHyzJqI&list=UUrcICezFO54dwG7YGVcBWOA

    Not so pretty on the windy dirty beach of MDP.

    Jan 10th, 2015 - 05:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    “In exchange, China is also loaned Argentine pesos, which can be used in bilateral foreign trade or exchanged for other currencies.”

    That's good news?

    Why do Argentinians try to get hold of $s?

    Jan 10th, 2015 - 06:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    There are some very lovely Argentine female, as long as they are under 40 YO and have kept out of the sun.

    So often you see the back of a female in PdelE and think “nice figure” (or something similar :o) ) and then they turn around and they look like an octogenarian with really bad lined walnut coloured faces.

    Believe me, it's not attractive.

    Jan 10th, 2015 - 06:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    I don't get it....Argentina is going to become a Chinese colony......then what are they going to do about it ?? scream for self-determination ?? it's just a matter of time...

    Jan 10th, 2015 - 07:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Big thing in argentian schools are that kids are learning Chinese....as well they should because when they are old enough to work for the Chin, 7 years old, they will need to be able to communicate with their masters who will be exploiting them.

    Jan 10th, 2015 - 07:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Briton

    and then they turn around and they look like an octogenarian with really bad lined walnut coloured faces

    makes one wonder which end the Tampa? should be...lol

    Jan 10th, 2015 - 07:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    Hey! On the chinese funded hydro project:

    Do Cretina and her perronista cronies get there cut up front from the chinese or do they get it from the contractors or both? What is standard? 5%? 8%? This is the basis for the future debt repudiation by the rotting roadkillians, correct?

    Jan 10th, 2015 - 08:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britworker

    Can you still see your reflection after you have sold your soul to the devil, there could be an upside here for CFK

    Jan 11th, 2015 - 12:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    These “deals” with China remind me of when big corporations in the USA would make their employees rent their houses from them at above market rate, and shop in the company stores at exorbitant prices, loan them money at usury rates knowing that every year, year in and year out, the employee gets deeper in debt to the boss (company) and are tied without a way out.

    Just like Venezuela is now. They're drowning and China gave them an anchor to hold.

    Jan 11th, 2015 - 02:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    That's going back a century to the m in in companies.

    Jan 11th, 2015 - 03:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    22. yes but seems like Arg prefers to live in the past.

    Jan 11th, 2015 - 03:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    21. sharecropping/coalmining. lol. I like it. Its got a good tune and I can dance to it. Reap it, rotting roadkill! lol

    Jan 11th, 2015 - 04:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    They sure the hell do, especially when it comes to the Falklands, yet on that same coin, they themselves deny the reality that Argentina is the end result of exploration and conquest of the new world. Just as we are in the north.
    Another minor diversion here. Did you see they won a decision from ICSID? Buenos Aires Bob was actually praising their decision. How many awards are decided against them?

    Argentina abides by no signed and ratified international treaties. The number one reason why it is and will be a pariah state. Until they come in out from the cold, they will never have normal relations with the developed world. China will deserve everything they signed on for. By the end of this year they will start seeing they rewards from their risks and their returns......lol

    (ALL THE WAY PAT'S)

    Jan 11th, 2015 - 04:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Z-ville

    @21
    China is “loan-sharking” Argentina?
    That actually makes sense, in a big scheme sort of way. But that implies that China ultimately isn't interested in getting their money back; they want to control the resources...

    Jan 12th, 2015 - 02:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    They've done the same thing in V. The one more than 1/2 of the oil production for 30+ yrs.
    The MS are just too stupid to realize what's happening. Plus they font care about the next generstion, never have and never will.
    That's why they get poorer and dumber with every new generation.

    Jan 12th, 2015 - 03:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    It is too quiet. I am thinking the electricity is out in a few provinces in Argentina.

    Jan 12th, 2015 - 04:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Z-ville

    I understand that when the Chinese set up shop in Africa at a mine or oilfield, they will razor wire off the entire compound. Bring in their own people, and the locals have no insight in what is being done at the complex. The Chinese provide their own security and deal with any problems themselves. Local officials have little control or knowledge of what is being extracted, and if any local official tries to exert more control the Chinese will either pay him off or see to it that he is replaced with a more pliable person...

    Jan 12th, 2015 - 05:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    28. Lots of people without power in BA and GBA.
    Lots
    and its almost 100F
    It is such a miserable place

    YPF is down again, boy oh boy did the Ks over pay for that dog.
    PBR is down too, they may need a gov't bailout

    tee hee

    Jan 12th, 2015 - 11:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    “Experts warn preliminary agreement violates local legislation by including a clause transfer Chinese manpower for infrastructure works”

    Uh oh, “Aryentina” c. paul cedron, look out!

    China got booted out of Canada for trying the same thing.

    There was a public hue and cry and so the Government protected its own citizens first.

    Jan 13th, 2015 - 02:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    If you like russian engineering - you are going to absolutely LOVE chinese civil engineering. It's one thing for an appliance or car to konk out but when a dam or a bridge fails - it's just S P E C T A C U L A R .

    Jan 13th, 2015 - 08:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • commonsparrow

    Chinese pour billions into Argentina. Investments much too volatile for me. They see returns most of us don't. Good luck.

    Jan 13th, 2015 - 09:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @33 commonsparrow

    The Chinese don't see returns. They just know that they'll go in and take everything, and no one in Argentina can stop them.

    In the meantime, Argentina will continue to p!ss off the USA, the UK, NATO etc..., so when the Chinese bailiffs turn up to take all of Argentina's natural resources no one will be there to help them.

    It has already started, but the K scum and Peronista's are too stupid to realise this. First it will be Chinese companies being treated like embassies - as in considered Chinese land. Then the Chinese will move their own workforce in place, no jobs for Argentines, and ALL of the profits will go straight back to China - NONE will stay in Argentina at all.

    There is a saying: A fool and his money are soon parted.

    Argentina might just make a new saying: A fool and his country are soon parted.

    One day Argentines will wake up and realise that they are living in the Chinese Province of Argentina. They'll be 3rd class citizens in what was once their country.

    But on the bright side, it's doubtful that the Chinese could run Argentina any worse then the muppets, crooks and idiots that they keep voting in at present.

    Jan 14th, 2015 - 12:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    Pablo
    TTT
    Axel
    Think and Easter Bunny etc.

    Forget about your Vaca Muerta reserves - they all belong to the Chinese now.

    Jan 14th, 2015 - 06:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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